[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 plus DAC vs Transporter with or without DAC

2006-12-13 Thread opaqueice
jhm731;161975 Wrote: How many DACs have you tested with the Transporter to reach this conclusion? None - I don't have a TP. PhilNYC seems to think his Dodson DAC is better than the Transporter's DAC. Sleestack doesn't think it's total waste to use the TP as a transport. He uses TPs

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 plus DAC vs Transporter with or without DAC

2006-12-13 Thread Konig
highdudgeon;162012 Wrote: And, hey, they're only over $10k. Lavry makes a $9k unit, if you're looking at things like that. Before you get there, though, you'd better make damn sure you have out-of-this-world speakers and electronics. Out of this world. As for the technical level thing,

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter as digital preamp, M-Audio Transit USB audio interface

2006-12-13 Thread devin
Eric Seaberg;162019 Wrote: You shouldn't have to switch sampling rates! If you're going to be using the M-Audio interface all the time to feed the Transporter, just set the TP to LOCK to incoming digital clock from your source and it should switch automatically. You should be doing this

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 plus DAC vs Transporter with or without DAC

2006-12-13 Thread Konig
opaqueice;162050 Wrote: None - I don't have a TP. The one thing which is totally obvious is that people's opinions of how things sound vary tremendously, which means they are an extremely unreliable guide. Therefore I prefer to winnow down the number of options I consider using

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: ARCAM CD Player Equivalent to Transporter

2006-12-13 Thread MrStan
The sound is definitely one of personal preference but if my experience is anything to go by I would suggest that the Transporter will be much more reliable and better built than the Arcam. Having replaced my Arcam with an SB3 at least I know that it will actually play music when I want to

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: ARCAM CD Player Equivalent to Transporter

2006-12-13 Thread Fifer
highdudgeon;160227 Wrote: I've seen Benchmark and Lavry DACs beat $6 players ... I'd hope they would. ;) -- Fifer Fifer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=639 View this thread:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 plus DAC vs Transporter with or without DAC

2006-12-13 Thread opaqueice
simplicity is the ultimate sophistication Then why add an external DAC to a carefully engineered product? The wordclock method should eliminate (or at least very greatly reduce) jitter, but it is still at best equal to the setup inside the TP. So this DAC had better be superior to the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 plus DAC vs Transporter with or without DAC

2006-12-13 Thread PhilNYC
opaqueice;162050 Wrote: In this case the DAC is receiving a noisy signal and has an additional disadvantage before it can even equal the TP. Of course there may be DACs out there that can do this, or that simply have analogue stages that sound better to some people, but that would be the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 plus DAC vs Transporter with or without DAC

2006-12-13 Thread PhilNYC
opaqueice;162073 Wrote: Then why add an external DAC to a carefully engineered product? The wordclock method should eliminate (or at least very greatly reduce) jitter, but it is still at best equal to the setup inside the TP. This depends on the quality of the clock/oscillator being

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: New DAC, amplifier or speakers?

2006-12-13 Thread FunkyMunkey
ezkcdude;161956 Wrote: good music speakers room placement (and it's free!) amp DAC transport cables insane audiophile tweaks LOL! I'm not quite into insane audiophile tweak territory yet! I'll order a new PSU and see if that helps. Finger's crossed... -- FunkyMunkey

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: New DAC, amplifier or speakers?

2006-12-13 Thread adamslim
ezkcdude;161956 Wrote: good music speakers room placement (and it's free!) amp DAC transport cables insane audiophile tweaks Sane and cheap audiophile tweaks might change this a bit: - Making sure that your speakers are rock-solid (i.e. stands, spikes etc) - Cleaning contacts I think

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 plus DAC vs Transporter with or without DAC

2006-12-13 Thread highdudgeon
Konig, But, really, I defy you to tell any difference. I have a lavry and have had up to three DACs in my place at the same time. Usually, it takes somewhat experienced ears to tell the difference. I've heard the Lavry Gold, which runs $9-$8k or so, and there is precious little difference

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter as digital preamp, M-Audio Transit USB audio interface

2006-12-13 Thread Eric Seaberg
The Mac should spit out whatever it's playing, i.e. CD @ 44.1 and DVD Video @ 48k. Can you not confirm this on the M-Audio? I have a couple of M-Audio interfaces here. I'll check it myself. On the Transporter settings page in the browser in the AUDIO tab, there's a setting for DIGITAL CLOCK.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 plus DAC vs Transporter with or without DAC

2006-12-13 Thread PhilNYC
highdudgeon;162129 Wrote: 2. First and foremost, get your room and speaker sorted out. Study your speaker's characteristics. Learn about speaker placement (look at articles on Allison rules). Learn about room measurement and look into, at the very least, EQ based on measurement and,

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Endler Attenuators and Balanced Outputs, Transporter

2006-12-13 Thread highdudgeon
My experience, after a couple of days: If you are using the Transporter as a line stage, running directly to your amps, and if you need to use the XLR outputs (I do, because I need the RCAs for the subwoofers), then the Endlers are ideal. I absolutely cannot tell that they are in the signal

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Inguz DRC - I must be doing something wrong...

2006-12-13 Thread Old Guy
ob-kook, Have you found any solution on this? I am experiencing the same situation - sound image shift to the left. I sent you PM. -- Old Guy Old Guy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9 View

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another SB 3 review

2006-12-13 Thread TCM
This time from 'Positive Feedback' (http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue28/squeezebox3.htm). Mainly about the digital mod SB 3 from Bolder. -- TCM http://www.last.fm/user/ThisCharmingMan/ TCM's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 plus DAC vs Transporter with or without DAC

2006-12-13 Thread highdudgeon
It's called typing too quickly! PhilNYC;162137 Wrote: Why is First and foremost listed as #2? ;-) But interestingly, it was prior to getting my room and speaker placement sorted out that I found myself not hearing much difference between things like the TP and my DAC. Getting the room

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Anyone found an inexpensive linear PS yet?

2006-12-13 Thread krochat
jhm731;161542 Wrote: Skunk;161498 Wrote: The http://www.welbornelabs.com/psreghc.htm is also based on the original Jung design. I just noticed that the supply mentioned above is now available in a kit specifically designed for the SB3 for $185. Assembly is required.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 plus DAC vs Transporter with or without DAC

2006-12-13 Thread Konig
highdudgeon;162129 Wrote: Konig, But, really, I defy you to tell any difference. I have a lavry and have had up to three DACs in my place at the same time. Usually, it takes somewhat experienced ears to tell the difference. I've heard the Lavry Gold, which runs $9-$8k or so, and there

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 plus DAC vs Transporter with or without DAC

2006-12-13 Thread highdudgeon
Ah. Time for some speakers...! Konig;162183 Wrote: im using stax omega 2 headphones. i had no speakers. i need a transporter bcoz i dont even have a transport. I already have the dac. -- highdudgeon Relax. It's about the music.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: New DAC, amplifier or speakers?

2006-12-13 Thread FunkyMunkey
adamslim;162113 Wrote: Sane and cheap audiophile tweaks might change this a bit: - Making sure that your speakers are rock-solid (i.e. stands, spikes etc) - Cleaning contacts I spent ages making the speakers solid, but I haven't cleaned the contacts. Would this also apply to the contacts on

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Another SB 3 review

2006-12-13 Thread Mark Lanctot
Weird that he didn't mention the Transporter? -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30584

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: New DAC, amplifier or speakers?

2006-12-13 Thread tomsi42
FunkyMunkey;162199 Wrote: I spent ages making the speakers solid, but I haven't cleaned the contacts. Would this also apply to the contacts on the amp? Yes, all contacts should be cleaned. Tom -- tomsi42 SB3, Rotel RC-1070/RB-1070, dynaBel Exact, Kimber Kable 4TC and Timbre.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Anyone found an inexpensive linear PS yet?

2006-12-13 Thread seanadams
Skunk;161709 Wrote: I noticed in the archives you mentioned having a couple alwsr boards, did anything ever come about? Also in the archives, Seans response to Mike Hansons ALWSR supply was that the 14V (or 12.5?) internal rail after the display was the place to try attacking, rather than

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 plus DAC vs Transporter with or without DAC

2006-12-13 Thread jhm731
You don't have a TP, and you haven't compared it's DAC to any other DACs, but you feel qualified to give people advise. LOL. opaqueice;162050 Wrote: None - I don't have a TP. -- jhm731 jhm731's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Inguz DRC - I must be doing something wrong...

2006-12-13 Thread ob_kook
Hi Old Guy, I've not been able to play around with this more yet due to travelling and being away from my system. For next steps, I plan to try running it one more time as well as using the Foobar convolver with the filter I create (as per suggestions above). Other than that, I will need to get

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 320kbps -- too much?

2006-12-13 Thread highdudgeon
Hi -- I've been having some drop outs with albums ripped under AAC at 320kbps. Airport Extreme network, 802.11b/g, 100% signal strength. Am I better ripping at a lower rate? Does it even matter, so long as it is above MP3? -- highdudgeon Relax. It's about the music.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 320kbps -- too much?

2006-12-13 Thread mkozlows
highdudgeon;162240 Wrote: Hi -- I've been having some drop outs with albums ripped under AAC at 320kbps. Airport Extreme network, 802.11b/g, 100% signal strength. Am I better ripping at a lower rate? Does it even matter, so long as it is above MP3? You shouldn't be having

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 320kbps -- too much?

2006-12-13 Thread highdudgeon
That's what I thought -- I've played uncompressed files I don't know how many times. Possibly a neighbor's network is interfering? I wasn't even on the web -- I was cooking dinner with the kids when it happened. -- highdudgeon Relax. It's about the music.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 320kbps -- too much?

2006-12-13 Thread jonheal
highdudgeon;162247 Wrote: That's what I thought -- I've played uncompressed files I don't know how many times. Possibly a neighbor's network is interfering? I wasn't even on the web -- I was cooking dinner with the kids when it happened. With the microwave? -- jonheal Jon Heal says:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 320kbps -- too much?

2006-12-13 Thread snarlydwarf
highdudgeon;162247 Wrote: That's what I thought -- I've played uncompressed files I don't know how many times. Possibly a neighbor's network is interfering? I wasn't even on the web -- I was cooking dinner with the kids when it happened. using the microwave? -- snarlydwarf

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 320kbps -- too much?

2006-12-13 Thread highdudgeon
Oh: we have wireless phones (5.8ghz) but that hasn't been a problem before. Recently we did change to Vonage, so now there's my internet connection, cable, and phone all on the same line. ??? highdudgeon;162250 Wrote: Nope, no microwave -- all real cooking. Beats me. I get drop outs

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 320kbps -- too much?

2006-12-13 Thread radish
5.8GHz phones won't interfere. Vonage also won't, it's bandwidth requirements are very low and also are obviously on the outbound side of things, not on your LAN. What is your AAC set to stream as? FLAC? It's possible the transcoding was interrupted by something else running on the server...the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 320kbps -- too much?

2006-12-13 Thread JJZolx
If you're not experiencing dropouts when streaming other types of files, then I would also suspect that the problem is with the transcoding from AAC to (most likely) Flac. How is your server's CPU load when playing these files? -- JJZolx Jim

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 320kbps -- too much?

2006-12-13 Thread Pale Blue Ego
Maybe you have some bad rips. iTunes doesn't do bit-accurate rips, does it? -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 plus DAC vs Transporter with or without DAC

2006-12-13 Thread 95bcwh
Oh this is normal. Many people who'd never listened to a mod often felt qualified to trash them. LOL.. jhm731;162214 Wrote: You don't have a TP, and you haven't compared it's DAC to any other DACs, but you feel qualified to give people advise. LOL. -- 95bcwh

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 320kbps -- too much?

2006-12-13 Thread highdudgeon
As far as I know, it does. I sometimes and sometimes don't get drop outs with the same stuff. Mind you, it is very rare...weeks or months apart. It's just that tonight, and over the last two or three days, I had a spate of them. No plugins. What should be the ideal conversion for aac? --

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 plus DAC vs Transporter with or without DAC

2006-12-13 Thread Konig
highdudgeon;162188 Wrote: Ah. Time for some speakers...! Time to rob a bank for a new house, new speakers and some pleasant gifts to my mum so she doesnt complain about the noise -- Konig Konig's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 plus DAC vs Transporter with or without DAC

2006-12-13 Thread opaqueice
jhm731;162214 Wrote: You don't have a TP, and you haven't compared it's DAC to any other DACs, but you feel qualified to give people advise. LOL. I've never dunked my head into a bucket of urine, and yet I nonetheless feel qualified to advise people it's a bad idea. While it may come as a

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 320kbps -- too much?

2006-12-13 Thread opaqueice
One thing you can do is rip to a lossless format, such as FLAC, and then set slimserver to stream as mp3 (bitrate limiting) with whatever bitrate is necessary to avoid dropouts. Personally I've never had drops (with a wireless g network and strong signal strength) even when streaming WAV, but

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 plus DAC vs Transporter with or without DAC

2006-12-13 Thread highdudgeon
Okay, this has got to be the funniest retort (and sage, too) that I have ever read on this forum! opaqueice;162271 Wrote: I've never dunked my head into a bucket of urine, and yet I nonetheless feel qualified to advise people it's a bad idea. While it may come as a shock, there are such

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 plus DAC vs Transporter with or without DAC

2006-12-13 Thread Mike Anderson
bluesdoc;161532 Wrote: So what do you think? for best SOUND quality would you think Squeezebox3 plus DAC (eg. Benchmark or equivalent), vs Transporter alone, vs Transporter plus DAC (which might be overkill? or not?) thanks in advance. BluesDoc Hey!!! Is that you JS? Glad to see you over

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 plus DAC vs Transporter with or without DAC

2006-12-13 Thread crooner
I have a pretty decent system (see signature and pic below). I am currently using an ummodded SB3 with the Power One linear PS. The DAC is a Lite Audio DAC60 (BB 1704 based, 6922 outputs) with upgraded coupling caps (Sonicaps with bypass). I am not willing to get rid of my preamp since I also do

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Another SB 3 review

2006-12-13 Thread TCM
I agree. This is from the November/December issue and is marked new in the table of content. Slim Devices Squeezebox 3 with Bolder Cable Digital and Power Supply Modifications NEW as reviewed by Samuel Roberts Maybe they have a large backlog... ;-D -- TCM

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Anyone found an inexpensive linear PS yet?

2006-12-13 Thread NewBuyer
seanadams;162206 Wrote: ...Just for completeness: I've also suggested that replacing the external 5V feed is silly, because it does not reduce noise at the internal power rails - those are internally linear-regulated _down_ from the output of an internal switching _step-up_ supply. Changing