this thread (not for the first time).
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entirely agree (I probably should have put quote marks around 'true'
and 'false' to better express what I was trying to say). A briefer
version of my post is:
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ideas and solutions which I try or not at my own risk. On occasions I
make suggestions which may or may not help others.
As others keep saying - listen to the music.
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this issue?
Thanks in advance!
Have you (re)checked the Touch sound effects are turned off? They can
cause this problem.
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blasted by high volume effects, but I
believe others have reported crackling sounds over the digital output.
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followed the instructions very
carefully.
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PasTim;691469 Wrote:
Apologies if this has been addressed before, but I have been looking at
the Touch CPU load (using 'top') with PCM vs FLAC on 24/96 tracks.
.
With PCM, process sirq-net-rx/0 is running at well over 50% CPU.
That's a lot. With FLAC, it's down to around 10-15
it gets to rebuffering), but
that takes CPU power.
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to get a small amount of amber warnings,
which I assume (but without checking) were retransmits. I don't get
any now.
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at how high the CPU load is with PCM.
As I understand it, the theory is that the CPU load needs to be as low
as possible. Doesn't that imply FLAC is better than PCM, at least at
high bit rates?
If I perform a network diagnostic test on the Touch at 1kbps, it
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to make or publicise a new version, that's
his right, and we should respect it.
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that some of us are interested in
trying to get the best from our systems, without really grasping the
underlying technical issues, and it's all too easy to misunderstand
what people are saying.
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good stream of bits? Surely that's an absurd design?
I will never understand. Let's leave it there, with me remaining
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explain.
Can anyone confirm their ttbuffer is sticking with 7.6.1?
Mine is fine, but I did do a factory reset before re-installing the
toolbox. I have found that with all firmware updates I had to do the
factory reset first to get the toolbox to work.
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Phil Leigh;656192 Wrote:
Indeed... Given the large number of optical connections used in pro
studios...
By the 's the answer is presumably 1% or 99%, but which?
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the analogue out, and it works fine with PCMs. If you
change the decoding on the fly I'm pretty sure it won't take effect
until you stop playing and start again. If you use the Windows 'Task
Manager' you should see the 'flac.exe' process running when using PCM,
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of flac files into
PCM from the Touch to the PC. Nothing else has changed. The theory is
that you have thus lightened the load on the Touch processor leaving it
better able to accurately process the data stream either to the digital
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procedure.
If you haven't got any of those, can you describe what you have got, or
if a blank screen, can you reload or start again?
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error messages you mention
but then WinSCP starts the connection and works fine.
If it still won't work you might want to see if there are firewall
issues (assuming you have one)? Has anything else changed?
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update the firmware on the Touch. Stability restored :)
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toby10;649184 Wrote:
Only if you connect the player directly to MySB.com, which you do not
do.
I'm sure I am being seriously thick here, but how would I do that?
There's no obvious menu item for it that I can find on the Touch?
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any of the above does not cause the Touch to request a
firmware update. I assume that's because I'm on a 7.6.1 (and hence
Beta) version (since 7.6.0 behaves more like an Alpha).
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resets
and TT 2.0 applications :)
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PasTim;642123 Wrote:
All attempts to get ADM to record a track from an external CD player
hooked up to my PC via the Linein on my Soundblaster have failed so
far. I can record using my Creative software, but not with ADM.
Has anyone got ADM to work on Windows 7 64 bit?
Tinkering some
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get some
useful comparison data at this level of correlation, so may try a bit
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the wrong end of the stick, was barking up the
wrong tree, etc.
It all makes sense now. Thanks for taking the time to make it clear.
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(if it will run at all on Windows 7,
possibly in some form of compatibility mode). However I've not got any
separate DACs, just the Touch and sundry CD players of varying ages,
quality and cost (none of those factors seemingly being related to
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believe what some people say then even the analogue cables
may make a difference, so no two people would really be comparing like
with like. You should, however, be able to test your own bits of kit
and make changes to see if any effects can be measured, which might be
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-and-cheerful one and try it sometime.
I also have ripped a few LPs. My set-up is less than ideal for this
(PC and my best LP player and phono amp are in different rooms), but
they sound good even though recorded via a mediocre deck and amp, and a
cheap cable that's far too long.
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sound card with Windows 7,
but previously always found a set of settings that worked. Thus far
this one has me beat. (I do have the latest set of software from
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for the electronics means more noise on the analogue
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really being that daft?
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ralphpnj;635465 Wrote:
And of course Macs only understand iNuance.
iLOL
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soundcheck;633530 Wrote:
@PasTim
Since I run my new network setup I don't face any hickups on a
server-side 100MBIT/s speed. I'm running a Linux server. I tested it
with
and without tweaked TCP/IP parameters. I never tested it on XP. Just
W7.
Setting the interface to 100MBIT/s doesn't
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although still imperfectly, it helps. Something
is not right between the two devices, and we know I'm not entirely
alone in this.
All device drivers are up to date with the latest from Nvidia.
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now be
running at 100mbps (ASSUMING you have no 10mbps devices connected).
I really did set it to 100Mbps Full Duplex about 4 months ago - honest!
Everything has been off and on many times since.
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PasTim;632779 Wrote:
I really did set it to 100Mbps Full Duplex about 4 months ago - honest!
Everything has been off and on many times since.
Ah Ha! There are 2 ways of setting the NIC to 100FD. One is straight
100 Mb Full Duplex. The other is AutoNeg for 100FD. I have been
using
as if whatever the
Touch and the PC NIC were doing previously it wasn't 100Mb FD.
I may also try going to straight Autonegation and see what happens
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Thanks to all who have helped and cajoled me into finding a solution.
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) and then wonder if there would be a
detectable difference. There was.
I am also trying unqualified Autonegotiate without any hiccups thus
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to set the NIC to 100MBIT Full Duplex .
I think that for some NICs at least, that's absolutely the wrong thing
to do. I suggest you at least qualify your advice.
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it will go away when 7.6 is
formally released and I can use it on the server).
So I'll carry on listening to flacs.
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other problems
using the network and this PC, even when streaming video to my Humax
box.
Must reconnect my network as it should be, and go back and play more
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and the whole process
getting out of step. It's not unreasonable to suppose introducing flow
control might help.
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soundcheck;632686 Wrote:
You might want to try setting your card to 100MBIT under device
settings.
Thanks. I did that some time ago, and also used TCP Optimiser as per
suggestions for TT 2.0. None of that made any difference I could
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persuaded it's a TCP/IP issue between the Touch and my PC running
XP SP3 (and possibly the PC's network card). I know it's not the
physical network. I thought I'd finally cracked it, but sadly not.
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now. The only trivial issue is that I'm hoping the Touch will
eventually stop asking me whether I want to 'upgrade' to 7.5.4.
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The PCM is FIR EQ'd with brutefirdrc on
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, but I don't know enough to be sure I
understand what I'm seeing, and am not quite enthusiastic enough to dig
into it.
I am using Analogue out on the Touch. Maybe that's a factor?
I'm also listening to Dylan's 'Hard Rain' on R4 (FM) at this instant -
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I thought the ttbuffer was changing network buffering.
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Phil Leigh;632553 Wrote:
no it has nothing to do with the network at all.
I thought it was obvious I was ignorant and was asking for an
explanation or hint where I might find one, but clearly not.
What is Alsa? I see hints on t'web that it's a Linux whatchamacallit.
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of this but is not willing to
commit his time and energy to modifying them until 7.6 is a non-beta
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for. No doubt others would fail to understand why I need extra tags on
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Phil Leigh;630166 Wrote:
Thanks - I looked back through the posts but missed that!
Wonder what PasTim means by less than ideal?
I did mention I have a wired network, back in post 600, but there's a
lot of stuff to plough through to find it.
How do people suggest I should test my network
,
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PCM instead, and the problem disappeared. So I thought
there must be something in this PCM transmission business. Then I
found the toolbar, and got to where I am now.
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buffer size
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which are actually relevant to
people wanting to solve problems (even using the forum search tool).
I admire your patience, both with none too bright people like me, and
with the argumentative ones ...
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and running fine, CPU at around
5%. I'm using PCM, as recommended.
My ethernet (wired) network is less than ideal, but others live here
with their own PCs and needs, and I can't easily arrange a simple more
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