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never designed for high accuracy in either
a studio or audiophile world. And its never going to meet the needs of
either a recording studio or a serious audiophile.
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ound of the guitar comes from the strings, pickups and amp (plus
effects if you use them), but the sound you hear depends on that plus
the way the guitarist plays it.
In the 60s, there was graffiti all over London saying "Clapton is God"
which might be a bit of an exaggeration, but
On 03/10/2011 02:26 PM, ralphpnj wrote:
> And what does "OBE" stand for?
I always heard
Overtaken By Events
but in this case, perhaps
Obsoleted By Europeans
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calls "mom" or "dad" then you pick it out instantly. Everyone there
answers to mom or dad, but they are all listening to something specific.
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While I canceled my subscription to The Absolute Sound in disgust, they
are right one thing. The goal of music reproduction is to sound like
un-amplified instruments and voices in real music halls.
There are no crossovers screwing up the phase with a real singer
oblem. Same with folks who love Lowthers and flee watt amps.
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player, going to Interlochen Arts Camp, having private lessions
for 5+ years, etc. I know very well what the sound of a trumpet is in my
house.
Playing Winton Marsalis on my very nice stereo is not the same.
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As you add still more crossovers, it becomes more impossible to keep
then phase correct.
Get a Quad or Maggie instead, no stinking crossover.
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er the years.)
I have one of the first production Transporters. I was not in the beta
program.
I played with the knob the first days I had it. Its a cool technical
tour-de-force, dynamically programmable force feedback.
I've never touched the knob in the years since.
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y that there is actually any signficant bits in the last 8 bits
of any 24 bit sample made from it. Those machines barely had 70 dB of SNR.
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On 12/30/2010 10:22 AM, konut wrote:
> Glass has the potential to vibrate. I stick with wood.
The stuff that they use to make guitars and violins?
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e WAF high, some of the old
stuff gets sold. I'm even thinking of selling some of my 30+
microphones. I still have a pair of 70s vintage "Large Advent" speakers,
my 40 year old 35mm film darkroom, .
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only got the one DAC, its not like I need a store.
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" and it fairly expensive.
So what do you think is the best place to sell used audiophile gear?
Thank
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many are mangled by marketing, idiot producers, etc.
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the gold rules.
There are lots in the industry responsible, but its not because the
engineers are uneducated.
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does not care. That folks won't pay for better quality.
Its a market thing, not education.
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ables can go hundreds of feet, whereas unbalanced are usually under 3
feet long, and get pretty wonky after 10 feet or so.
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studio, you can also send balanced signals down a 1/4" TRS jack
(looks like a stereo headphone jack). This connection takes up less
space in a rack than XLR connections.
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On 09/17/2010 02:46 PM, seanadams wrote:
> I haven't read the review yet but if the touch is resolving 17 bits that
> is probably the correct maximum capability of the DAC chip. All things
> have a noise floor... it is not realistic to expect that
> performance from a $300 device employing a single
first SlimDevice SB-1 ages ago. PCs are evil
places with tons of noise, both physical vibrations and strange and
stray electrical signals.
My rule is do PC stuff in the PC, and do quality audio stuff out in an
external box. A Touch is a great way to get the signal out of any PC.
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rm "ripping" became popular, but not a good
description of what actually happens.
There is no difference in sound quality, there is no difference in the
decompressed files. Its easy to test for yourself.
Any person who claims otherwise is blowing smoke.
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On 08/12/2010 05:22 PM, andyg wrote:
> I hope you guys will be able to tell some difference because I sure
> can't.
Well, Andy, you would clearly hear a veil being lifted if your system
had enough ByBee caps and $1000 interconnects.
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ary the 'new' digital audio.
For sure, and putting a digital signal through a TT patch panel is going
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> Proper active speakers (not just speakers with amps inside them) are an
> expensive proposition...
Yes, but IMHO, they are the future.
I don't think you save money, but the amp engineer can deliver what the
driver engineer wants, how, when, what flavor, etc.
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On 07/09/2010 10:03 AM, michael123 wrote:
> So, you say that the audio design ends at 200$?
No I am saying that if you expect significant improvements in audio
quality by changing a $1 cap with a $200 cap, you are drinking
All IMHO, YMMV, etc
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> Cast-PIO.. it costs accordingly..
Do you seriously think that replacing a $2 cap with a $50 cap will
greatly change the sound?
Does the term eye candy for rich people mean anything to you?
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way. The
cost of electronics is not the cost of the parts. Its the engineering,
NRE, non-recurring engineering expense. The only way to lower the impact
of the NRE is to move more units.
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ean, but never sold in any volume, and
was too "computer" for the audiophile purists, and too high priced for
consumers.
Suppose someone wanted to make a TP-2, it would be what percent "better"
than the initial TP, in what area would you put the engineering?
He&
On 07/03/2010 09:10 PM, Robin Bowes wrote:
> On 04/07/10 00:59, Pat Farrell wrote:
>> No arguments possible from the evil goons at the RIAA, I have the cd,
>> case, all that crap.
>
> ...except that is technically not legal in the UK.
Well, here it is technocally illegal to
files.
This is what I've been doing for 5 or so years.
No arguments possible from the evil goons at the RIAA, I have the cd,
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ere.
And, IMHO, there will never be a Logitech TP 2. Perhaps a Sean's Garage
TP 2, if he hasn't gone off to spend his retirement surfing.
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ave the right sources. But I don't keep the email archives, and I
hate using the Forum software, so I can't help you there.
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"digital volume control" is talking about a nearly trivial
single multiply or shift function.
DSP is more like dealing with quantum physics rather than Newtonian physics.
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th the old LA-2
compressors and tape saturation. I would think that it could be
perfectly matched with enough DSP power.
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are wave, it just gets nearly flat. Using the natural
roll off of an analog tape was part of the art of audio engineering.
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mswlogo wrote:
> You guys are clueless.
Now you resort to personal insults. That lowers your SeanTrollScale to
0/10
You are still a troll
Do not feed the trolls.
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mswlogo wrote:
> We determine the speed at which IONS fly through a vaccum in order to
> determine their Mass.
I did that in high school physics class, over 40 years ago.
You are still a troll, and your score is no higher than
1/10
on the SeanTrollScale
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mswlogo wrote:
> I work with analog and digital signals at data rates that would make
> your head spin.
Specifics please?
> Replies like yours are priceless.
>
> I'm sorry that the clipping I'm referring to is beyond your grasp.
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mlsstl wrote:
> I didn't know they were interviewing candidates for the position of
> forum cop. Guess I need to watch my step from here on out and keep my
> opinions to myself....
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o or three Touch units. But back when the Transporter came out,
there was nothing like it.
And it still sounds pretty darn good.
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ow to fix what I don't own. ;-)
Seems a bit weird that you were so concerned, while the TP is still for
sale, its no longer a $2000 product and its not getting any press.
Even audiophiles like their tail fins.
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s ago, I could rebuild the four-barrel carb on my Pontiac 389 V8, as
well as nearly anything else on the car. With modern fuel injection and
mixture and spark advance systems, they are considered black boxes that
are replaced.
Even TVs have become like toasters, use and throw away.
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rice/performance deals in the 70s.
But they had two characterists that were not talked about nearly as much
as their great performance:
1) they were amazingly inefficient, and needed serious power to drive
2) they sounded great when loud, but totally unimpressive at low volume
(say background m
e walls, with
strange angles to all the joints so the sound echoes off in all sorts of
wild directions.
It too was a place you didn't want to be in for very long.
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ry weird.
Neither of them were underground, but they were weird enough that I
couldn't stand being in either for more than a few minutes.
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ht
of your ears.
The value is calculated. The calculations are simple. I've got a write
up on this page:
http://www.pfarrell.com/prc/bits.html
The calculation is driven by the number of bits in the signal. Each bit
gives you about 6 dB of range. 16*6 is 96.
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he fundamental concepts of modern
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ny musical content over
40kHz. None.
Sony's DSD has serious noise shaping changing the signal in the 35kHz an
up range.
If you love it, fine. but don't pretend that its anything humans or even
dogs could hear.
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aches.
If all you have are analog RCA, be happy.
There are coax digital connections terminated with RCA, but they are
pretty rare. I haven't looked at my Touch carefully recently, but I
don't remember it having a coax digital output. Toslink, sure.
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richardw wrote:
> sorry you struggle reading my lack of interest in the shift key.
I share Robin's view that your words would be easier to read if you took
a nanosecond to use proper capitalization. But then, perhaps you are not
really interested in communicating.
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ge on the GI bill in the early 50s had access to a lot
of war surplus gear with RCA connections. They were cheap and adequate
for the time. Its not like they are actually a good connection.
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er Electrical Engineering professor would say, the electron holes,
which flow for electrical current, don't know direction.
Shields are good, which is why RCA connectors are lame. Use proper
balanced connections, like the Transporter supports.
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ed for
megadollar interconnects.
I probably have 30 suitable cables in lengths from 3 feet to 50 feet in
my basement/studio.
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While there are bug fixes, and probably some features that I have not
noticed, the heart of 7.5 is support for the Touch.
Its been a non-event as far as the rest of my SlimDevices collection is
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the circumstances are different, and all the surgeon has is my
pocket Swiss Army knife, I bet the surgeon will do better than an intern.
Its about the music, not geeks claiming mine is bigger
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expect
that there is no business case for putting "much" effort into the
Transporter. I have no idea what the suitable definition of "much" is,
but I expect its close to zero.
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try some 20 years to get them right.
I wouldn't say it took 20 years to get right. It did take five to ten
years. The problem is that the music industry (and the RIAA) have no
interest in music. They care only about sales and revenue.
Its only the boutique folks that care a
so the ancient
distinctions are vague and occasionally meaningless.
I expect that in time, there will be very little "hardware" differences
in even high end audio equipment.
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ota.
Real computers (desktops, laptops, etc., as opposed to embedded systems)
have gotten so powerful that 99% of the buyers never use even a fraction
of their capabilities.
Pat
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While the 'high end' audio folks have a longer time frame, anything
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One definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and
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built your own.
Otherwise, please, go away.
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michael123 wrote:
> Shall I continue?
No
You have become a troll. And your SeanTrollScore for these recent posts
is 0/10. See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76315
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>> is 0/10. See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76315
You can't get a negative score on the SeanTrollScore, but we may have to
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by anyone not employed by Logitech. And I bet its not going to be
changed by anyone emplyeed at Logitech either.
Give it up.
You have become a troll. And your SeanTrollScore for these recent posts
is 0/10. See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.ph
re is not open source, the CPU is
too slow.
Accept it and move on with your life
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eeds a special compiler and linker, and the
license for that costs solid five figures. So they thought that no one
would spring for a legal license, so there was no reason to release the
firmware source code.
I have worked on other embedded systems, and expensive tools are
frequent in the business.
-
rdly "early beta"
Even the tinySBS is stable and works well.
> In any event, you have both a Transporter and a Touch, are you
> experiencing problems with 24/96?
Nope, no problems, but I don't have much 24/88.2 o 24/96 content.
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If you check the developers forum, you will see that 7.5.0 has been
feature frozen as they beat down the last few high priority bugs.
I'd be serious beers that it will be released by the end of March, this
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handle from reaching the main woofers.]
I don't think you could easily connect my particular REL model to active
speakers. There are no speaker-level connections on most (all?) active
speakers to tap into.
Curt962 wrote:
> Of course the best equipment will be capable of resolving the smallest
> subtleties better than will lesser components.
For some suitable definition of "best equipment"
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cosmopolous wrote:
> I'll try that tonight. fingers crossed.
> Is this something that's common?
It happens. I've had it perhaps twice in the many years that I've had my
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in the "An interesting video" thread
If you want to argue that we would be better off with 18 or 20 bit files
instead of the RedBook's 16 bits, you would have at least a leg to stand on.
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tle stuff.
A standard jazz trio, of piano, drums and standup bass, has lots of the
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Kuro wrote:
> I'm (we're) your paying customers. You do not call your paying
> customers trolls.
Sean is retired. You are not his customer.
You are a troll.
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:43.
Specifically:
"Please troll elsewhere. Nothing about TCP/IP can cause jitter in any
SqueezeBox device. You have been told this, pay attention."
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fferent WiFi and wired Ethernet? That makes zero sense.
And "jitter" is not going to vary due to the network wiring. The network
has nothing to do with the DAC's clock.
I'm all for you liking one way or the other, personal tastes being
personal.
But your claim makes zero sense fr
h does not have balanced outputs, which are handy if your amp
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ry few people can get along with only one SqueezeBoxen
I have not done A/B comparison between my Touch and my TP, but the Touch
is very nice.
I have a TP, Touch, Boom, Radio, Duet, and have bought and used three
plain SqueezeBoxen.
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jtf wrote:
> looking at buying a Transporter and it said that rackmount ears are
> available. It didn't say that they actually came in the box.
They do not come in the box.
Someone more plugged into the retail channel will have to address if
they are still available
d
use multiple cores. Nearly all serious desktops these days are quad, and
even most "better than netbook" laptops are at least dual core. Soon,
all desktops will be at least 8 cores.
Most of the time, if you use a cron job to make the parallel mp3 tree,
you don't care how long it
storage
of two formats, or even three if you keep flac, MP3 and audio
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