seanadams;213884 Wrote:
It also powers the auto-ranging circuitry which measures the incoming
line voltage and configures the transformers properly for the linear
supplies. For that purpose it's nice to have a PS which can comfortably
handle a very wide range of input voltages.
Ohh.. so is
johann;214215 Wrote:
Isn't it about time this thread gets locked or even better, deleted?
I'll nuke it if you all want me to.
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johann;214215 Wrote:
Isn't it about time this thread gets locked or even better, deleted?
I'll nuke it if you all want me to.
I'm just one voice, but lock, nuke, shutdown, etc. Please
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Isn't it about time this thread gets locked or even better, deleted?
It doesn't do any party any good and I'm sure the topic can be brought
up again in a new and constructive thread.
BASTA!
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aberdeencomponents;213855 Wrote:
Sean,
For a person who has a special section on thier Forum Called DYI, and
has to do with Mods. And now your saying Mods are BS. Maybe you should
rename that DIY section, the B.S for idiot's forum!
Anthony
I didn't say all mods are BS. I said
Sean, you are a patient man. As a person that's deeply skeptical about
the typical audiophile stuff, I'm grateful that there are still some
folks in the audiophile biz that have not abandoned rationality.
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power line correct phase:
Orientation of mains plug:
The correct polarization of mains is important for reasons of audio
clarity and stability.
for the folks who never heard of that, I found this nice article:
http://www.audaud.com/audaud/JUL01/EQUIP/equip3JUL01.html
there are even devices out
aberdeencomponents;213851 Wrote:
Sean,
ASK YOURSELF THAT QUESTION. YOU DESIGNED it. Right?
Why was the TRANSPORTER PC BOARD DESIGNED TO HAVE THEM?
BUT THE PARTS was OMITTED?
Do you have the Foggiest IDEA WHY?
I would very much like to see some data showing the benefits for
omitting
There is actually some rational information on this subject as well.
See:
http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/ampins/groundloops/grndloop.htm
Figure 3. For equipment with an ungrounded chassis, one can measure
the AC voltage from the chassis to safety ground. When I first thought
about this, my
truckfighters;213892 Wrote:
but for now, I am asking for SERIOUS mods for the TRANSPORTER!
and I would like to hear comments from users that actually heard them!
A/B audition is not a necessity. Personal findings are just fine!
thanks.
:)
Ok, now that we are (sort of) back on topic,
truckfighters;213892 Wrote:
power line correct phase:
Orientation of mains plug:
The correct polarization of mains is important for reasons of audio
clarity and stability.
for the folks who never heard of that, I found this nice article:
AKM released the AK4397 DAC a couple of weeks ago - it's software
compatible with the AK4396, but not, sadly, pin compatible as it comes
in a 44 pin package.
But, if someone wanted to be creative with their Transporter, it could
be quite an interesting upgrade - just watch that the kludge
Remove the ~12MHz crystal.
Reason: Uncorrelated noise caused by the 2 crystal oscillators sharing
the same HCU04 package(and possibly the same silicon area on the
Xilinx).
can you explain this a little better for my understanding, please?
the device still works after removing the
truckfighters;213926 Wrote:
can you explain this a little better for my understanding, please?
the device still works after removing the crystal?
what is its normal function?
On the sb3 you can remove it, but you lose the ability to play 48kHz
streams like internet radio, and possibly (?)
One unfortunate difference: the AK4397 isn't able to accept a 3.3v
digital supply, only 5.0v, though it does accept 3.3v logic input
levels. So, any modification would have to provide a 5.0v supply,
ideally separate from the analogue 5.0v, and would also have to
disconnect the digital outputs
AndyC_772;213903 Wrote:
(After all, you wouldn't go round replacing all your fuses with nails
to 'improve the power supply', would you? You would? Darwinian
evolution in action. Go right ahead).
I prefer the sound of a hollow point .22. :)
So, if you have reversible mains plugs, by
AndyC_772;213955 Wrote:
One unfortunate difference: the AK4397 isn't able to accept a 3.3v
digital supply, only 5.0v, though it does accept 3.3v logic input
levels. So, any modification would have to provide a 5.0v supply,
ideally separate from the analogue 5.0v, and would also have to
Ah - there's an international variation there. Here in the UK, as I'm
sure you know, we have 3 pin plugs that have a fuse built into them on
the live (hot) side, so it's quite hard to electrocute yourself.
The only occasion on which it's normally possible to swap live
neutral is on equipment
seanadams;213966 Wrote:
I have to disagree with you there. The reason it has a polarized plug is
so that the fuse is assured to be on hot side. Isn't it also the case that
mains switches also sometimes only switch
the live and not both live and neutral? I do also remember reading
somewhere
CardinalFang;214008 Wrote:
James Randi would have a field day with this industry...
I thought he already did, with an article about cable magic, but I
can't find it at his website anymore.
Yes, it's exactly the sort of thing he challenges, that our perceptions
and preconceived notions cloud
Mark Lanctot;214011 Wrote:
I thought he already did, with an article about cable magic, but I can't
find it at his website anymore.
http://www.randi.org/
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CardinalFang;214013 Wrote:
http://www.randi.org/ The forum has quite a few (100+) postings on
audio, there's also audiophools.
That's where I was looking. I thought Randi himself did an article on
it, but I can't find it there.
Lots of posts in the forum about it though.
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seanadams;213871 Wrote:
Wow. Of course you don't. What do us pencil necks know about anything?
Working directly with a major transformer manufacture, power quality
engineers, and hands-on experience is alot better than textbook
reading.
That's correct. When connecting coils together it
seanadams;213886 Wrote:
I didn't say all mods are BS. I said (in the context of commercial mods)
that the ones I've heard of for Transporter are BS. Those who have been
reading this forum for a while know that at one time there was a quite
constructive and intelligent dialogue which took
aberdeencomponents;214053 Wrote:
Neutral to the dot mark (Start of the winding) of the transformer, Hot
the end of the winding.
On the output side of the transformer if going to Diode make the start
of the winding (dot mark) the Ground.
You still here???
Please, do explain what bad thing
AndyC_772;214062 Wrote:
You still here???
Please, do explain what bad thing happens if you connect the primary
the other way around. Make specific reference to the 'figure-8' plugs
fitted to a lot of hi-fi and other consumer equipment.
Andy,
I do have better things to attend to.
Nothing
The transformer dot notation has nothing to do with any sort of
*absolute* attribute of any given coil of a transformer. It only
serves to specify the algebraic sign of the coupling *between* coils.
If I take a transformer symbol and swap the positions of all the dots
at once, that transformer
andy_c;214085 Wrote:
The transformer dot notation has nothing to do with any sort of
*absolute* attribute of any given coil of a transformer. It only
serves to specify the algebraic sign of the coupling *between* coils.
If I take a transformer symbol and swap the positions of all the dots
andy_c;214088 Wrote:
Your question assumes the existence of a right way.
For a dual supply (positive and negative), one might envision getting a
small improvement in measured hum by swapping the primary leads. But if
this is so, then it's likely the result of asymmetrical capacitive
CPC;214086 Wrote:
So, please tell us which way is the right way to connect the AC line
input to a transformer.
Your question assumes the existence of a right way.
For a dual supply (positive and negative), one might envision getting a
small improvement in measured hum by swapping the primary
CPC;214097 Wrote:
I've been told the best connection to the primary side is the one
that yields the lowest voltage reading from neutral to ground/chassis.
Andy,
Again, Experiment yourself and take your own measurements.
Keeping in phase alone can cut ripple in 1/2.
trivia: On a digital out
aberdeencomponents;214100 Wrote:
My posts are made from actually testing. I do not flap out of my rear
end, like some others.
I've heard of this measurement of residual AC voltage and that makes
sense. This has nothing to do with transformer dots though. The dot
convention is just as I
andy_c;214085 Wrote:
The transformer dot notation has nothing to do with any sort of
*absolute* attribute of any given coil of a transformer. It only
serves to specify the algebraic sign of the coupling *between* coils.
If I take a transformer symbol and swap the positions of all the dots
CPC;214097 Wrote:
I've been told the best connection to the primary side is the one that
yields the lowest voltage reading from neutral to ground/chassis.
I think you'd want to measure from the local safety ground to the
signal common (say, outer ring of RCA jack), assuming the equipment
does
Did anybody else notice the Transporter Early specs posted on Slim
Devices was actually the measurments taken from the AKM Dac spec sheet,
Not the Transporter itself??
Anthony
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aberdeencomponents;214100 Wrote:
Andy,
When you experiment yourself, then talk.
If you have the test gear I Own or have access too,
and spend the amount of time testing products like I do, then talk.
Already Sean backed down on a private email, when I was ready to
discuss the
Very well said, Sean.
AP has some serious problems comunicating in a civil manner.
He has been banned from several other audio forums.
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aberdeencomponents;214106 Wrote:
So Sean... Tell us where you got the Specs from... :C)...
Are you surprised that Transporter has similar specs to those of the
DAC chip that's in it?!
As it turned out the specs were a couple dB better once a few final
tweaks were made, and mass produced
tomjtx;214107 Wrote:
Very well said, Sean.
AP has some serious problems comunicating in a civil manner.
He has been banned from several other audio forums.
HI Tom, Sean said if he change a bunch of parts, it would sound worse.
You said it sounded the same...
did you get your ears check
seanadams;214109 Wrote:
Are you surprised that Transporter has similar specs to those of the DAC
chip that's in it?!
As it turned out the specs were a couple dB better once a few final
tweaks were made, and mass produced PCBs from the factory were tested.
That testing took place a few
Holy cow aberdeencomponents...
You're doing yourself no favors going into a manufacturer's Forum and
stirring up trouble like a gradeschool bully.
How can you possibly think that your behavior is going to entice
customers to give you their hard-earned money for your services when
you can't
barty;214120 Wrote:
Holy cow aberdeencomponents...
You're doing yourself no favors going into a manufacturer's Forum and
stirring up trouble like a gradeschool bully.
How can you possibly think that your behavior is going to entice
customers to give you their hard-earned money for
Hypnotoad wrote:
harmonic;213464 Wrote:
Its funny how people act on this forum in real life hifi gathrings
its like going to a te party when people are discussing
I suppose that is what I was trying to point out with my above post. I
am interested in getting a slimdevice of some sort
Hypnotoad;213614 Wrote:
I suppose that is what I was trying to point out with my above post. I
am interested in getting a slimdevice of some sort and I find the forum
here actively unpleasant. That is really unfortunate. It makes me not
want to come here, which in turn makes it less likely
harmonic;213686 Wrote:
(but be carefull when you say that you have found a way to make it
sound better for some its like challengeing there religion.)
:o)
I guess the problem is that as a pure 24/44.1 digital transport both
the SB and TP are pretty much as good as it gets...and can be
Phil Leigh;213708 Wrote:
:o)
I guess the problem is that as a pure 24/44.1 digital transport both
the SB and TP are pretty much as good as it gets...and can be
scientifically proven to be so. And then we have to add a SPDIF cable
and an external DAC and all bets are off.
However the
Phil Leigh;213708 Wrote:
:o)
all Fender lovers are deaf...
Huh???
.
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Transporter - BK Reference 200.2 - Vandersteen 3A Signature.
RWA (Analog) SB3 - Rotel RB 1070 - BW Matrix 805.
Fridgidare - Mirror Pond pale ale - easy chair w/remote - irritated
neighbors.
harmonic;213686 Wrote:
Infact here in my comunity most people still use there fully moddified
sb3´s with special powersupplys and special dac´s
Hi Harmonic,
Please could you provide a link for your community. I would be very
interested to read and learn.
Thanks.
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haunyack;213739 Wrote:
Huh???
Actually, I have found that thin-skin types can benefit from the more
aggressive aspects of these forum.
If you don't believe me, just ask me.
Harmonic - As you say TP direct to a [quality balanced amp, matched
with appropriate speakers] is the only way to
S-Man;213782 Wrote:
Hi Harmonic,
Please could you provide a link for your community. I would be very
interested to read and learn.
Thanks.
Community = Hifi friends here in denmark i have found along the way
we do not have a internet site if that´s what your asking for .
Im a
seanadams;213228 Wrote:
Nope. It's already as good as I can make it. I could swap out a bunch of
random parts for you, but that'll make it sound worse.
All the mods for Transporter that I have heard of appear to be, IMHO,
complete BS. One modder even claimed improvements after doing
Phil Leigh;213791 Wrote:
(rising to bait...)
Oh no it isn't. A good preamp can add value. For example, my preamp
gives me a .1 sub out...
You have to get over this less is more thing. It is NOT an absolute
truth.
bait?
C'mon Phil.
I did not say anything about less is more or absolute
truckfighters;213231 Wrote:
@sean:
some audio devices sound different when turning the 230V power plug via
180 degrees (change phase). does this also apply to transporter?
Yes it is true.
Even with 120v.
You want your gear to run In the same Phase as the rest of your gear.
Anthony
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Phil Leigh;213791 Wrote:
(rising to bait...)
Oh no it isn't. A good preamp can add value. For example, my preamp
gives me a .1 sub out...
You have to get over this less is more thing. It is NOT an absolute
truth.
To each his own.
So your saying that by agreeing with Harmonic about no
aberdeencomponents;213836 Wrote:
Sean,
Why did you omit the 2 Critical LINE FILTERS in the FINAL DESIGN of the
Transporter? WAS they B.S? Or a DESIGN FLAW? ;c)
Anthony
BS MODS
Why do you say they are Critical?
What specific issue do you believe you are addressing?
Are you equipped
aberdeencomponents;213842 Wrote:
You want your gear to run In the same Phase as the rest of your gear.
And which phase is that?!?
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seanadams;213847 Wrote:
Why do you say they are Critical?
What specific issue do you believe you are addressing?
Are you equipped to make your own conducted EMI measurements? Or can
you feel the RF energy in the hairs on the back of your neck or
something?
Did you spend many
seanadams;213848 Wrote:
And how exactly do you tell if they are In the same Phase?
SEAN,
Did you ever hear of POLARIZED AC PLUGS?
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Sean,
For a person who has a special section on thier Forum Called DYI, and
has to do with Mods. And now your saying Mods are BS. Maybe you should
rename that DIY section, the B.S for idiot's forum!
Anthony
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I have been on many forums -- both audio and non-audio -- and this is
the most unpleasant. Although I am quite sure there are much more
unpleasant ones out there.
Robin Bowes;213672 Wrote:
Hypnotoad wrote:
harmonic;213464 Wrote:
Its funny how people act on this forum in real life hifi
Hypnotoad wrote:
I have been on many forums -- both audio and non-audio -- and this is
the most unpleasant. Although I am quite sure there are much more
unpleasant ones out there.
Yes, this is too unpleasent.
Time to lock the thread.
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aberdeencomponents;213851 Wrote:
Sean,
ASK YOURSELF THAT QUESTION. YOU DESIGNED it. Right?
Why was the TRANSPORTER PC BOARD DESIGNED TO HAVE THEM?
BUT THE PARTS was OMITTED?
Do you have the Foggiest IDEA WHY?
Do you think I forgot to tell my guys to solder them in there or
something?
aberdeencomponents;213853 Wrote:
Did you ever hear of POLARIZED AC PLUGS?
Of course, and I even know _why_ they're polarized!
But how do you know which way around the transformer in there is wired?
Why exactly would the polarity matter? How do you know if they're all
the same? Before you
seanadams;213860 Wrote:
Do you think I forgot to tell my guys to solder them in there or
something?
Although I'm sure you are an expert in RF and have designed many
products of your own for worldwide compliance, I will explain anyway
for the benefit of our other readers.
When designing
seanadams;213861 Wrote:
Of course, and I even know _why_ they're polarized!
But how do you know which way around the transformer in there is wired?
Why exactly would the polarity matter? How do you know if they're all
the same? Before you answer, please consider checking out the
following
Pat Farrell;213858 Wrote:
Hypnotoad wrote:
I have been on many forums -- both audio and non-audio -- and this
is
the most unpleasant. Although I am quite sure there are much more
unpleasant ones out there.
Yes, this is too unpleasent.
Time to lock the thread.
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aberdeencomponents wrote:
Pat Farrell;213858 Wrote:
Yes, this is too unpleasent.
Time to lock the thread.
If you don#8217;t like it, don#8217;t read it.
Slim Devices believes in letting people voicing their own opinions on
their forums.AP
You speak for LogiTech/SD?
Au Contraire, they lock
aberdeencomponents;213868 Wrote:
Sean,
I do not need to refrence pencil neck geek websites.
Wow. Of course you don't. What do us pencil necks know about anything?
If you look on a transformer, notice there is a paint mark on them, or
a dot?
Now, in a component, wire 2
aberdeencomponents;213865 Wrote:
Without realizing, I had a noise sniffer plugged in the same power
bar
.. Do need I say more?
Yes, yes you really do. What kind of noise sniffer was this? And what
did it tell you? Did it give you a detailed spectral plot of some kind?
And what was the result
Sean-
If you were concerned with EMI/RF energy during the design of the
Transporter, why do you still have an smps with no shielding inside the
unit?
Why not a linear PSU for all voltage rails?
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jhm731;213879 Wrote:
Sean-
If you were concerned with EMI/RF energy during the design of the
Transporter, why do you still have an smps with no shielding inside the
unit?
Why not a linear PSU for all voltage rails?
I did in fact test both of those ideas and there was no significant
Hypnotoad;213374 Wrote:
I expect the OP wanted to hear people for them and against them, their
experiences and their reasons for their opinions. But the OP probably
did not want to hear one group bashing the other because of their
methodology in listening. Tomjtx's last post added nothing
tomjtx;213399 Wrote:
To the contrary, my post pointed out that the poster may be subject to
bias and/or placebo effect and is unwilling to do a simple test to rule
out those factors.
I, therefore, find it difficult to give his comments credence.
The problem with these 'simple tests' is
tomjtx;213399 Wrote:
To the contrary, my post pointed out that the poster may be subject to
bias and/or placebo effect and is unwilling to do a simple test to rule
out those factors.
I, therefore, find it difficult to give his comments credence.
Did you try comparing the two transporters
Patrick Dixon;213424 Wrote:
The problem with these 'simple tests' is that they are so simple as to
be completely unrepresentative of the way that we normally listen to
music. They can't therefore be scientifically valid.
I tend to agree with you but that dossent mean that the there are no
Cool it guys. He said he's going to do a blind test, so let's now wait
for the results before flaming any more.
Darren
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so what MODs do we have yet:
- transporter MOD from aberdeen/mauimods
and I found the upcoming transporter TUBE (!) MOD
(according to manufacturer to be finalized this month!)
check it out here:
http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/index.php?topic=41197.new;topicseen#new
surely a tube mod
seanadams;213366 Wrote:
I forgot to mention also that what sounds good to you might in fact be a
bunch of added distortion or noise, a non-linear frequency response, or
simply a couple more dB of amplitude. All easy to do by hacking the
analog stage, intentionally or not. Heck, most people
seanadams;213337 Wrote:
Quoi? Are you suggesting noisier power supplies sound better?
I didn't say that!
I have tried at least 5 versions of opamp based regulators (including
ones I've designed myself many years ago before the Jung versions
appeared) and have not been happy with the
harmonic wrote:
When it returns i will hear it on my new 25.000 usd klimax solos
Ah, I see. They cost $25,000 so they must be good.
Right.
R.
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harmonic;213464 Wrote:
No the sound good and cost 25,000 usd
Regardless of their cost they are superb - just wish I could justify
buying them!
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You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF
Robin Bowes;213460 Wrote:
harmonic wrote:
When it returns i will hear it on my new 25.000 usd klimax solos
Ah, I see. They cost $25,000 so they must be good.
Right.
R.
No the sound good and cost 25,000 usd
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truckfighters;213445 Wrote:
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so what MODs do we have yet:
- transporter MOD from aberdeen/mauimods
and I found the upcoming transporter TUBE (!) MOD
(according to manufacturer to be finalized this month!)
check it out here:
harmonic;213464 Wrote:
Its funny how people act on this forum in real life hifi gathrings
its like going to a te party when people are discussing
I suppose that is what I was trying to point out with my above post. I
am interested in getting a slimdevice of some sort and I find the forum
well my amp only has CINCH (RCA) inputs, no XLR.
is there any way to use a converter-cable from XLR to RCA and does this
make sense? I heard that the XLR has about 3 volts ouput while the RCA
only around 1-2 volts?
so it really has to be a converting-cable and this on the other hand
will
truckfighters;213219 Wrote:
is there any way to use a converter-cable from XLR to RCA and does this
make sense?
You don't want to do that. Transporter has a proper
balanced-unbalanced converter driving its RCA outputs, so that the
RCAs get the maximal benefit of a fully balanced signal path
thanks for the quick answer, sean.
sean, will you MOD my slim devices transporter :) `?
I really love it, but like I said before, if there is a way to make it
sound even better?
how critical is it to use the correct phase in the power cord
connection?
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truckfighters;213227 Wrote:
thanks for the quick answer, sean.
sean, will you MOD my slim devices transporter :) `?
Nope. It's already as good as I can make it. I could swap out a bunch
of random parts for you, but that'll make it sound worse.
I really love it, but like I said before,
@sean:
some audio devices sound different when turning the 230V power plug via
180 degrees (change phase). does this also apply to transporter?
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RGi120ENR AMP | REDGUM LS Cable | BW Nautilus 802 D |
Live
well I say try it out for yourself.
it's not a big deal...
unplug everything and just try it with your CDP / AMP combo...
don't expect the sound to change, but the stereo stage / image...
I will kindly await your answer.
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| Transporter | REDGUM RGASil OCC Silver
truckfighters;213231 Wrote:
some audio devices sound different when turning the 230V power plug via
180 degrees (change phase).
That's news to me.
does this also apply to transporter?
No. AC is AC. From the input transformer's perspective there simply is
no polarity, and phase can only
truckfighters;213231 Wrote:
@sean:
some audio devices sound different when turning the 230V power plug via
180 degrees (change phase). does this also apply to transporter?
I've never heard that one before. You might as well say that it matters
at what exact moment you play a track as you
CardinalFang;213237 Wrote:
You might as well say that it matters at what exact moment you play a
track as you need to make sure that the music is exactly aligned with
the absolute phase of the mains supply.
I wouldn't put it past anyone...
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as far as I am informed it has something to do with several devices
connected to each other via. e.g. RCA cable connection.
you might get different potentials, if one device is connected out of
phase and the other isn't.
surely AC is AC and the whole sentence I wrote doesn't really make
sense.
There is a phenomena connected to radiated RFI that can change according
to which way round you connect live and neutral ON SOME EQUIPMENT.
I have a device called an RF Sniffer that produces an audible signal
when it detects RFI/EMI (bit like those things they sell in DIY shops
to detect mains
truckfighters;213251 Wrote:
as far as I am informed it has something to do with several devices
connected to each other via. e.g. RCA cable connection.
you might get different potentials, if one device is connected out of
phase and the other isn't.
There are phase inversion switches on some
seanadams;213245 Wrote:
I wouldn't put it past anyone...
Hey - you should check out my DJ-stylee LP stylus in tha' groove
skillz, I've got my cue-in's down to microseconds to get that bass
boost from riding the peak 'n' troughs.
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I recalled when i somtime ago contacted Lyngdorf audio and asked about
getting my millennium mk3 moddified i also remember how many words
lyngdorf audio used to try convincing me that this modder was the
devil himself and all his work was absolutly useless , but what was
most memerable
Personally I'm not a fan of super regs so this is where I would start on
the Transporter. S-regs are a great example of excellent specs and poor
sound IMHO.
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Harmonic,
Perhaps you should try blind testing. I doubt you would hear a
difference.
As I have stated many times, NO difference was heard in the modded TP
through several very high end systems by a group of very experienced
audiophiles.
But if you want to spend your money on questionable
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