On 20/01/10 05:01, audiomuze wrote:
Robin Bowes;508337 Wrote:
flac2mp3 does indeed make an mp3 copy of flac files, also copying the
tags. It is intelligent enough to only transcode if the audio data has
changed and can update tags without transcoding the audio.
Robin, I've used flac2mp3
On 20/01/10 05:42, aubuti wrote:
kphinney;508386 Wrote:
How long is everyone going to ignore the OT? Yeah, flac2mp3-whatever
can transcode just like a hundred other programs. The OP wants a PLAYER
that plays FLAC, ogg, and mp3.
Start another post on the benefits of mp3flac2-whatever
kphinney;508276 Wrote:
BTW George, what OS are you running?
I'm using Linux and I'm quite proficient at it, I do not have any
issues with transcoding audio from one format to another, I just don't
see a point in doing so. The original need for lossy compression was
space and this goes away. I'm
Robin Bowes;508260 Wrote:
On 19/01/10 21:16, matka wrote:
Why flac ? - very simple, the sound quality question is no longer
relevant and also all my music is in flac. I don't want to transcode.
Really, flac for your stated use case is total overkill. You're just
making your life
kphinney;508271 Wrote:
He said he didn't want to transcode. End of story. Transcoding itself
is easy, but it's a pain in the @ss just the same. You need to have a
FLAC library, keep it separate from the MP3 library, then devise
creative ways to manage, compare, and update each library.
Robin Bowes;508452 Wrote:
It already is multi-threaded on most platforms (not windows):
--processes=nLaunch n parallel transcoding processes.
Use with multi-core CPUs.
Default: 1Thx, wasn't aware of this.
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iPhone;508586 Wrote:
What is there to manage? One manages their FLAC library, the MP3s are
only the ones one wants on the portable device. Only somebody that has
to much time on their hands and to much money converts every FLAC file
to MP3. Only the songs one wants to listen to on the
maggior;508598 Wrote:
I think it is the opposite. By having your mp3 library a subset of your
FLAC library, you are managing. How is that easier than just having a
mirror? A mirror could be mangaged by a daemon process. And why is it
that somedoby that does that have too much time on
As iPhone said, you're listening on a train. I guess it all depends on
how noisy the trains are in your neck of the woods, but if they're
anything like the trains I use then worrying about the fidelity of the
files is the least of your problems.
Even using ear canal phones (I use Shure e2c), the
sebp;507884 Wrote:
Some people don't like iTunes, and don't want to even hear about it.
That's what I'm trying to teach my Mac every time it tries to update,
but it's still not clear to it, even if I run the class for 2 years
now.
Why?
- iTunes has zero added value to me: it just doesn't
iPhone;508080 Wrote:
...The only reason I use it [iTunes] is that I am forced to use it with
my iPhone...
I don't want to go off topic, but you do have many alternatives to
iTunes that include syncing your iPhone. Check out Songbird. There are
a few posts here that mention other
kphinney;508088 Wrote:
I don't want to go off topic, but you do have many alternatives to
iTunes that include syncing your iPhone. Check out Songbird. There are
a few posts here that mention other alternatives as well.
but don't forget about synching things other than music, like various
cliveb wrote:
As iPhone said, you're listening on a train. I guess it all depends on
how noisy the trains are in your neck of the woods, but if they're
anything like the trains I use then worrying about the fidelity of the
files is the least of your problems.
Even using ear canal phones (I
kphinney;508088 Wrote:
I don't want to go off topic, but you do have many alternatives to
iTunes that include syncing your iPhone. Check out Songbird. There are
a few posts here that mention other alternatives as well.
As of Songbird 1.4.2, it still does not support iPhone or iTouch
True. I haven't tried Aps and doubt Apple would allow anything but
iTunes to handle that. Although, it's been over a year since I used
iTunes and I manage my aps with the App Store built into the Phone.
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There are couple of annoyances tough:
- does not recognize flac tags (comments)
- does not play flac gapless
I will keep it for a week or 2 and then decide if this shortcomings
(and any other ones) will make me return the device for Sansa Clip.
Just a follow up. I have returned Archos
George, have you looked into this:
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Sony-MZM200-HiMD-Recorder?sku=244773src=3WFRWXXZYXSEM=0CAWELAID=31497537
I can't recommend it high enough.
MZ-M200 Hi-MD Recording Modes:
Linear PCM (44.1kHz 16-bit) - Uncompressed - 94 Min.
ATRAC3plus (256 kbps) -
HiFiMan HM-801 was the new audiophile player of choice as of last
summer, which includes both a nice DAC and a headphone amp. I would have
jumped on that, except for the fact that it doesn't come with any memory
at all, and relies on chips of 32GB max.
iPhone;507812 Wrote:
Having trouble understanding some of the things you said/require.
Your on a train, if your not using high end accurate head/earphones
what does it matter what the fidelity of the audio is? If its small
speakers on a train, nobody can tell the difference between 192Kbps
On 19/01/10 21:16, matka wrote:
Why flac ? - very simple, the sound quality question is no longer
relevant and also all my music is in flac. I don't want to transcode.
Really, flac for your stated use case is total overkill. You're just
making your life harder for zero benefit. Transcoding is
Robin Bowes;508260 Wrote:
On 19/01/10 21:16, matka wrote:
Why flac ? - very simple, the sound quality question is no longer
relevant and also all my music is in flac. I don't want to transcode.
Really, flac for your stated use case is total overkill. You're just
making your life
matka;504243 Wrote:
I have a relatively long train commute to work and would like to
optimize the use of that time by listening to music at the best possible
fidelity. I'm looking for an advice for a portable player with the best
possible audio quality, however, besides audio quality, I do
The Clip+ is the first memory player I have ever bought, for much the
same reasons as the OP. While it might be overkill, quality wise, for
most situations, there are those situations where the extra quality can
be apreciated, such as in a quiet hotel room, or hooked up through an
aux connection
On 19/01/10 21:51, kphinney wrote:
Robin Bowes;508260 Wrote:
On 19/01/10 21:16, matka wrote:
Why flac ? - very simple, the sound quality question is no longer
relevant and also all my music is in flac. I don't want to transcode.
Really, flac for your stated use case is total overkill.
Robin Bowes;508293 Wrote:
The only benefit seems to be that you don't have to transcode, which
I've already pointed out is easy [1]. Oh, and you save a bit on disk
space since the mp3 copy of your library takes up a certain amount of
space.
[color=blue]
You're still missing the point:
kphinney wrote:
You're still missing the point: If you have a FLAC library and an MP3
library it can only take more physical space than a FLAC only library.
1+1 = 2, not 1, not 0.
But its more like 1+1 = 1.4
And in these days of terabyte disks for under $100, a one time storage
of two
Robin Bowes;508293 Wrote:
On 19/01/10 21:51, kphinney wrote:
Robin Bowes;508260 Wrote:
The only benefit seems to be that you don't have to transcode, which
I've already pointed out is easy [1]. Oh, and you save a bit on disk
space since the mp3 copy of your library takes up a certain
I agree keeping 15% additional space isn't that big of a deal, but
unless someone can point me to an automated method for transcoding,
adding to, and organizing a separate library I think it's more of a
hassle than it's worth. Much easier to use a FLAC native device.
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kphinney;508320 Wrote:
I agree keeping 15% additional space isn't that big of a deal, but
unless someone can point me to an automated method for transcoding,
adding to, and organizing a separate library I think it's more of a
hassle than it's worth. Much easier to use a FLAC native device.
Robin Bowes;508337 Wrote:
flac2mp3 does indeed make an mp3 copy of flac files, also copying the
tags. It is intelligent enough to only transcode if the audio data has
changed and can update tags without transcoding the audio.
Robin, I've used flac2mp3 for a long time now and find it to be
audiomuze wrote:
Robin, I've used flac2mp3 for a long time now and find it to be an
excellent tool
Yes, its a great tool, Thanks Robin
Any plans make it multi-threaded to speed up the encoding process?
Well, why not dream of the moon: flac2mp3 should be setup to detect and
use multiple
How long is everyone going to ignore the OT? Yeah, flac2mp3-whatever
can transcode just like a hundred other programs. The OP wants a PLAYER
that plays FLAC, ogg, and mp3.
Allow me to quote:
...eliminate Apple products [from his choice of players]
- beside mp3, it must play ogg and flac
-
kphinney;508386 Wrote:
How long is everyone going to ignore the OT? Yeah, flac2mp3-whatever
can transcode just like a hundred other programs. The OP wants a PLAYER
that plays FLAC, ogg, and mp3.
Start another post on the benefits of mp3flac2-whatever from
Robin-the-eternal-guest. Why
the variables that really matter for you in sound reproduction are d/a
conversion, amplification and speakers (or in this case headphones). If
you are only paying £50 for these with the Sansa, then the bit rate of
your recording will be irrelevant to you.
If you have spent more than £5,000 on
Cowon S9 is pretty expensive, only uses a built-in memory chip so
there's no way to change memory cards, comes bundled with shitty ear
buds, but it's a really fantastic music player.
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Having trouble understanding some of the things you said/require.
Your on a train, if your not using high end accurate head/earphones
what does it matter what the fidelity of the audio is? If its small
speakers on a train, nobody can tell the difference between 192Kbps and
FLAC under those
+1
But the circular arguments are intriguing.
Probably a problem with the god's against Steve and iPod /iPhone.
You also get iPeng for controlling your Flac files.
Dave
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Some people don't like iTunes, and don't want to even hear about it.
That's what I'm trying to teach my Mac every time it tries to update,
but it's still not clear to it, even if I run the class for 2 years
now.
Why?
- iTunes has zero added value to me: it just doesn't support FLAC
- I just
Assuming you'd rather not cary a bunch of CDs with a good CD player (old
school already??) around you may want to consider a MiniDisk player.
The newer Hi-MD players support uncompressed linear PCM and SONY's
ATRAC3plus and ATRAC Advanced Lossless Technology is a big step above
where they were a
Grahame;504371 Wrote:
Yes, passes the DSoTM Test :)
After yours and few other recommendations I went to the local store to
pickup 2GB Sansa Clip+ and micro SD... and against better judgement
picked up Archos Vision 3...
Why ? 8GB Archos was only circa $35 more than Sansa but it plays avi on
a
I have a relatively long train commute to work and would like to
optimize the use of that time by listening to music at the best possible
fidelity. I'm looking for an advice for a portable player with the best
possible audio quality, however, besides audio quality, I do have some
other
On 08/01/10 16:47, matka wrote:
I have a relatively long train commute to work and would like to
optimize the use of that time by listening to music at the best possible
fidelity. I'm looking for an advice for a portable player with the best
possible audio quality, however, besides audio
matka;504243 Wrote:
I have a relatively long train commute to work and would like to
optimize the use of that time by listening to music at the best possible
fidelity. I'm looking for an advice for a portable player with the best
possible audio quality, however, besides audio quality, I do
Robin Bowes;504251 Wrote:
On 08/01/10 16:47, matka wrote:[color=blue]
Well, overlooking the fact that you're probably not going to be able
to
listen in anything like optimum conditions on a train, how about
something like a netbook with a headphone output running your OS
audio
player of
Sansa Clip+ - Non Apple
http://www.sandisk.com/products/sansa-music-and-video-players/sandisk-sansa-clipplus-mp3-player-.aspx
Plays ogg, mp3 + flac out the box.
Built in FM radio.
Removable / Swappable micro SDHC cards gives lots of effective storage.
USB mass storage mode = just drag + drop
Grahame;504330 Wrote:
Sansa Clip+ - Non Apple
http://www.sandisk.com/products/sansa-music-and-video-players/sandisk-sansa-clipplus-mp3-player-.aspx
Plays ogg, mp3 + flac out the box.
Built in FM radio.
Removable / Swappable micro SDHC cards gives lots of effective storage.
USB mass
matka;504344 Wrote:
Great info Grahame, thanks. Is the playback gapless ?
Yes, passes the DSoTM Test :)
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I have an older SanDisk Sansa model (e260), which plays FLAC after
reflashing the firmware with Rockbox (www.rockbox.org). This is
something that SanDisk actually supports, unlike many manufacturers. I
have been happy with it, and I suspect the Sansa Clip is as good or
better. Rockbox works on a
I got the 8gb Clip+ recently. Out of the box I could drag and drop my
FLAC files directly. I don't do mp3. Could not have been easier. For in
depth answers see
http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=119
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