Allan--
Do you mean compost tea made with fish and yucca
used as microbial foods?
For starters recall that I am quoting Elaine here from
something she wrote last spring. I believe it's
accurate, but My impression was that adding fish
and yucca to your mix AFTER the tea is brewed will
Per, if you are going to start using the biodynamic remedies or compost teas
it is my recommendation to not place too much emphasis on a soil test. The
increase in biological activity will unlock bound nutrients and minerals.
This will manifest in an increase in natural ground cover
this information will help you along the way.
Peter.
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From: COYOTEHILLFARM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard ?? Brookside Lab
Brookside Lab, can you please provide contact address/email
Thanks
Allan Balliett wrote:
Is it only oil that the US is after or is it power over all
decisions made
by anyone in all facets of life?
Look up your own pipe, James. Without enthusiastic allies like
Australia and the UK, even Geo W. would be a little more cautious
about making the world safe
of expensive equipment. :
Dorothy
--- COYOTEHILLFARM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perfect Orchard -The soil
Is it a problem having mix top soil with hardpan
sandy soil ?
If it is a problem what do you do to fix it ??
And after adding calcium (local farmer recommend 2
ton to the acre)
do we need
Hi all
Sorry, I enjoy a Political discussion normally,
but in MY/our all Perfect Orchard there is no room for Politics and
Bushes.
Thanks
Per Garp/NH
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From: Roger Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 04:47 AM
Subject: Re
, 2002 09:58 AM
Subject: Re: perfect orchard -The soil
Per--
I echo the advice to get a good soil test. Then
follow recommendations of someone who knows how to
read it. Taking advice from local farmers can
(doesn't have to be) hazardous because most of them
farm conventionally and don't
Per--
Elaine I. contends that compost tea, liquid fish and
yucca extract will break up a hardpan in less than 6
months. So spraying that mixture on the soil or into
the trough should help alot.
I know next to nothing about the BD preps, just
following along and learning from this list.
Dear Roger,
You state, 500, 501 and the other preparations are miracles-in-being
whose
greatness, despite the passage of time, has in no way been fully
realised. Similarly we have hardly explored the energies available to us
naturally (and I don't mean fossil fuels). The opportunity to do so
Per -
Check will Joel Simmons of EarthWorks, outside of Easton, PA. He's
been doing Albrecht consulting for years and has just opened his own
lab, which I understand is an upgrade over what either Brookside or
Perry are currently offering. (You'll have to talk to Joel to get the
details, but
Perfect Orchard -The soil
Is it a problem having mix top soil with hardpan sandy soil ?
If it is a problem what do you do to fix it ??
And after adding calcium (local farmer recommend 2 ton to the acre)
do we need to add this stuff every year ?
In this perfect orchard what do we do ? with mulch
Perfect Orchard -soil test
What do you need to look for in a soil test, and why ?
looking for an ag interpretation
Per Garp/NH
Perfect Orchard -soil test
What do you need to look for in a soil test, and why ?
looking for an ag interpretation
Per Garp/NH
Per - For a literal answer to your question, Go to the EarthWorks
site I gave you the url for earlier. There you can find both a blank
soil test form (results ie
Lloyd Charles wrote:
But I do know that 3.8 grams of
BD501 mixed with 34 litres of fresh water and potentised, and sprayed on
one hectare of degraded farmland in the evening when the land is drawing
its nutrients and energies back into itself, will unlock and catalyse
natural minerals and
Allan Balliett wrote:
. . . . Pfeiffer, in practice, however, was open to the use of
chemical fertilizers to get the soil productive enough to produce
cover crops that could have benefit if once turned into the soil. (A
person starting a bd project on an abused piece of ground - - as
almost
- Original Message -
From: Roger Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium
Allan Balliett wrote:
. . . . Pfeiffer, in practice, however, was open to the use of
chemical fertilizers to get the soil
Lloyd said:
Roger, dont you think you have got a bit carried away with this?
Lloyd , I assume that Roger was responding to my more generalized
statement about the use of artificial fertilizers to jump start a
depleted piece of ground.
Roger, I appreciate that you spoke up for the finer
Hi! Roger,
Great post, as all ways,
Have a good one!
Gil
Roger Pye wrote:
Allan Balliett wrote:
Allan Balliett wrote:
Lloyd said:
Roger, dont you think you have got a bit carried away with this?
Lloyd , I assume that Roger was responding to my more generalized
statement about the use of artificial fertilizers to jump start a
depleted piece of ground.
Roger, I appreciate that you
- Original Message -
From: Roger Pye [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium
Think now about the other 700 grams per kilo which are used in some way
by plants. These are mineral salts, remember. Every gram
Deart Per,
When you ask will Radionics help the perfect orchard, the answer is no! If
you already have a perfect orchard you wont need radionics. To try to obtain
a perfect something is an exercise in futility.
As to your point will it help the soil, or the general well feeling or
.Yes
.
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From: Doug Jay Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard - gelignite?
What is gelignite? How is it used? Where is it obtained?
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Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 02:47 PM
Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard - gelignite?
Sometimes the dictionary is just what we need: Gelignite n. An explosive
mixture, comprised of nitroglycerine, guncotton, wood pulp, and potassium
nitrate. [GEL(atin) + Lat. ignis
: Merla Barberie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 03:34 PM
Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard
Lloyd Charles wrote:
. . .
If you have low calcium soil, Lime is needed to restore the
CEC balance and you
: Monday, December 16, 2002 05:48 PM
Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard
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From: James Hedley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard
Dear Hugh, Lloyd, Gil, Per Garp and others,
Just to start
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Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard
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From: James Hedley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard
Dear Hugh, Lloyd, Gil, Per
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From: COYOTEHILLFARM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard
Hi Merla
Confusing stuff, can any one explain the difference in the calcium
products
:
Lime,
In America this seems
Dear friends -
Does anyone know of anyone who has 'applied lime' using the Kolisko approach?
If so, can you comment on the effect(s)?
Thanks
_Allan
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From: Chris Shade [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 4:34 AM
Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium
Chris Allan et al.,
. With cal nitrate , Ca(NO3)2, you are applying
two nitrates for every calcium, so if you used alot,
you
Lloyd -
Remind me: how do you get the calcium nitrate down? What are your rates?
How would you modify this if you were working in a garden?
Thanks
-Allan
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From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium
Lloyd -
Remind me: how do you get the calcium nitrate down? What are your rates?
How would you modify this if you were
12/18/2002 10:21:55 AM, Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you have contact info on this
Phil Wheeler?
Dr. Phil Wheeler can be contacted at Crop Services International Inc., 1718
Madison S.E., Grand Rapids, Michigan 49507-2518, phone (616) 246-7933, fax
(616) 246-6039, e-mail [EMAIL
Dorothy, et al -
If you get a good soil test, like one from Jerry Brunetti
http://www.agri-dynamics.com or Joel at Logan Labs, the
recommendations for lime will be layed right for you: you'll know if
you need dolomite or if you need high-calcium lime. A good soil test
interpreter will also
. Graham of
Nutri-Tech at ACRES pointed out that I couldn't possibly have
adequate accessible lime in one season and that I should have moved
to liquid calcium in my situation. I realize that this is not a
certificable organic substance, but I also understand that it is
considered to be a
Pardon my ignorance, Lloyd: do you have any idea of why calcium
nitrate is not acceptable for organically certified crops?
Graham is very health conscious and he was very accepting of calcium
nitrate as a first season or emergency input. How do you feel about
it? (And, why?)
Thanks!
-Allan
Allan Balliett wrote:
As everyone knows, I worked in a hellish situation last summer. (I
growing food for 160 families on soil that had been supporting no-till
conventional ag for the previous 30 years) We needed a lot of lime to
reach our Albrecht goals. I bought the finest talc-like lime I
12/17/2002 9:26:22 AM, Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd like to experiment with
liquid Calcium in my 2003
gardens. Does anyone know
where or how to buy it in the US?
Phil Wheeler in Michigan sells it. He's a brixer.
I'm looking for more advice on
buying field lime, also.
Try
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From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard-Calcium
Pardon my ignorance, Lloyd: do you have any idea of why calcium
nitrate is not acceptable for organically certified crops
Hugh -
Let's do it!
-Allan
Dear Per,
We need a discussion on this. Radionics, is not exactly the same as field
broadcasting. But they are related. I'll have to get back to this. In the
meanwhile, any others like to have a go at this?
Hugh
Visit our website at: www.unionag.org
Now, I'm not going to even begin to try to explain field broadcasting, but
(after it's explained), Per can come over to my place to see my
broadcaster, if he wishes. He, by my reckoning, lives about 20 minutes
from me.
Essie
At 06:40 AM 12/16/02 -0500, you wrote:
Hugh -
Let's do it!
-Allan
15, 2002 4:49 AM
Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard ??
Dear Per
Now that you have given your location and soil description
it
is easier to make a suggestion.
Have your soil chemistry analyzed by Brookside Lab. or
similar
then work on balancing your cation exchange
What is gelignite? How is it used? Where is it obtained?
DS
From: Peter Michael Bacchus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 22:49:03 +1300
If you really do need to loosen the subsoil mechanically I suggest that you
look at
gelignite,
I have seen it used to good effect under trees that
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Date: Monday, December 16, 2002 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard - gelignite?
What is gelignite? How is it used? Where is it obtained?
DS
From: Peter Michael Bacchus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 22:49:03 +1300
If you really do need to loosen the subsoil mechanically I suggest
Lloyd Charles wrote:
. . .
If you have low calcium soil, Lime is needed to restore the
CEC balance and you will need a carbon source to hold and activate it.
and later he wrote to Gil who had said, Calcium will come from the application
of
.
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From: Merla Barberie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 7:34 AM
Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard
When you suggest lime to someone, you need to be more specific about what
you
mean. Can you do a rundown of limes
Lloyd - I take it that this is the 'dolomite' that Pat Colbey
recommends as a free choice mineral supplement for livestock.
Everyone - Is LIME what we would ask for to get 'dolomitic lime'? Is
this something that one can buy with confidence at the coop or is it
best purchased from an organic
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From: James Hedley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard
Dear Hugh, Lloyd, Gil, Per Garp and others,
Just to start the discussion rolling I agree that a field broadcaster is
not
Radionics
: Radionics and Field Broadcasting was Re: Perfect Orchard
Now, I'm not going to even begin to try to explain field broadcasting, but
(after it's explained), Per can come over to my place to see my
broadcaster, if he wishes. He, by my reckoning, lives about 20 minutes
from me.
Essie
At 06:40 AM
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Subject: Perfect Orchard
We have the same stoney hardpan here in Hollis NH. A 2-foot deep chisel
plow
will get rid of it and leave all the topsoil in place. No need to resort
to
explosives (gelignite).
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From: Peter
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From: Allan Balliett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard
Hi Allan
Lloyd - I take it that this is the 'dolomite' that Pat Colbey
recommends as a free choice mineral supplement for livestock
. He
used it on a worn out piece of hillside and harvested 2-foot long carrots
the next year.
How far down is your water table?
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From: COYOTEHILLFARM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard
Hi Richard
: Sunday, December 15, 2002 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard ??
I appreciate this comments,
We are here permanently, Hardpan is very common in the Eastern US, in NH
winery's are Uncommon.
Gypsum has been suggested in the past but only a hand full of it in for
each
grape planting.
Hardpan
ks for all of this comments, they are very
helpful
Per Garp/NH
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From:
Gil Robertson
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 06:23
AM
Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard
Hi! Markess, While Lute Larson may have developed
additional rates, s
Title: Re: Perfect Orchard
Lloyd, Gil etal.,
One of the parts Per had written was:
In our case we also need to drain the field from stagnated water,
Now over the years I others have brought bladder infections and diarrhea etc. back from health threateningness.
By dowsing the correct
Title: Re: Perfect Orchard
HI AND GOOD MORNING
-Per what else do you know of the soils
history?-
This
farm was establish proximally 1830 or so, it was a hors farm at first, but it
turned to be a milking farm probably in the 20/30 as ware common sheep farming
was the big thing but that's
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From: COYOTEHILLFARM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:19 AM
Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard
Hi Gil and all
-One can not create a hard pan in sand, gravel or loam-
Our hardpan was created when our part of the would was a part
Lloyd, Gil etal.,
One of the parts Per had written was:
In our case we also need to drain the field from stagnated water,
Now over the years I others have brought bladder infections and diarrhea
etc. back from health threateningness.
By dowsing the correct potency of the burning
Dear Per,
We need a discussion on this. Radionics, is not exactly the same as field
broadcasting. But they are related. I'll have to get back to this. In the
meanwhile, any others like to have a go at this?
Hugh
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From: Gil Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard
Hi Gil
I disagree very strongly with some of what you have recommended in
this post to Per Garp !!
lets have a look
Hi Markess (and others following this thread)
But I believe Lute Larson and others have had great Radionic success with
hard pan and even standing water using Radionic rates to increase porosity
and air circulation. The field broadcaster would be a great device to set
these patterns
not compact
as much if the full BD cycle is carried out.
Gil
COYOTEHILLFARM wrote:
Perfect Orchard what would it be like.
A very practical question,
please describe an ideal plantation of an Orchard starting from scratch.
In my case with a hard pan, and we will plant Hybrids grapes (cold hardy
types
PM
Subject: Re: Perfect Orchard
Hi! Per Garp/NH,
Has it occurred that you may not have a suitable site for what you want to
do?
By this I mean would it be better to obtain a more suited site?
If you are stuck with the site:-
Hard pan usually means several things are involved. Clay
Perfect Orchard what would it be like.
A very practical question,
please describe an ideal plantation of an Orchard starting from scratch.
In my case with a hard pan, and we will plant Hybrids grapes (cold hardy
types)
We will start digging a 3 foot wide trench 3 foot dip for the purpose
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