Yes, I meant to say you have to USE an ERN # everytime you show, sorry...it
is much easier, IMO to just register your dog CKC.
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From: "mtndog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Berner L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 11:07 PM
Subject: re; Canadian Shows
It is very important to remember this fact about the
Bernese in the USA: This is no longer a rare breed.
I will say it again for emphasis - this is NOT a rare
breed. So, I just don't understand why people are
paying top dollar for a puppy just because it is a
BMD. I don't understand why people a
At 08:51 PM 04/12/2002 -0600, you wrote:
The problem is that the book is not available in Europe. Amazon UK
doesn't yet carry it.
For those of you in Europe that would like copies, I'm sure Joye Neff or
I can help out. Email us privately.
Pat Long (& Luther)
Amazon.com ship all over the world
you have to get
an ERN number every time you show. In addition, if you use an ERN number,
*** No you dont. You get the number issued one time, and you use that
number for the rest of the dog's life, while you show in Canada.
I faxed the info to CKC, and got all my ERN's back in time to enter the
I have a 3 year old male berner, who is a certified therapy dog, but all
of a sudden has decided not to listen to any commands at all. He will not
come inside , stays outside for 5-7 hrs at a time . any specific training,
trainers?t 0AI would like to find someone local, we live in Blue
Daisy,
Since Bernese Mountain Dogs are so good at training people (Which seems to be
very easy and must be related to the size of the brain or something) I
see no problem with our moving on to a more challenging situation. After
all, ATM's should learn to dispense something of real value
A carpenter friend of mine built a beautiful, carpeted dog ramp for my
Bernese to assist them in entering the van. If they used it at all, it was
with reluctance; they let it be known to me that the ramp of their choice
was MamaliftmeorIwontgetin!
Interesting experience today; I was at a local
>Maybe they DO wear down the dewclaw
>nails through use.
My Tinka was thirteen when suddenly she would paw my leg and leave
scratches, did start to clip her front dew claws then! Until then, no
problem! My three at the moment have front dew claws intact, they still seem
to wear them down naturally
Yes, folks, it is SNOWING in southeastern Virginia. I don't remember having
snow this early here for many years. My 20.5 month old Berner went out and
stared at the sky, trying to figure out what this hard stuff was, pelting
him in the head!!! As you may remember, Klarsson is a "rescue" that I
a
Hi ho L'ers,
While reading the Berner-L, I noticed that there is a pitiful lack of
creativity when it comes to "working the working dog." Besides the usual
pursuits like carting (groan), tracking (yawn), obedience (gag), agility
and therapy, there is also camping, hiking, swimming, etc. Granted
Hi Michaela-
If you had your dog neutered already, I am surprised that your vet did not go
ahead and fix it surgically regardless of you authorizing it. Typically it
is done for the dog at the time of the spay/castration...and many owners are
never the wary.
That said, it is not a necessary
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> Well, just imagine how much better horses would be if only they had dew
> claws!!! ;)
Well . . . they have chestnuts (also called night eyes) which are the
vestigial remains of the fifth toe. It's that funny patch on the
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From: "Michaela Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Why are rear dewclaws removed? Is it solely to conform to the breed
> standard?
> Or is there another reason why rear dewclaw should be removed?
A lot of folks will tell you dewclaws mean trouble--getting snagged,
requir
I can certainly relate to this as my 11-month old is a very active sock
eater. Clean, dirty, old, new. Stevie has no specific preference. In fact
about a month ago I had to rush him to the vet at 1:30 in the morning as he
was choking on a piece of "sock". All turned out fine but a very quick
$150.
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Hi Marilynn and Star,
What a thoughtful way to spend your tickets for the BARC LOC Challenge
Fundraiser!!! That is really great - I'll put MS (Marilynn Star) on each
of those tickets so the next 28 people who send in their donations will
know which tickets are their
"bonus tickets" from you.
Joye and all Berner-L friends,
I have been out to this great raffle website 4 times now and it is JUST to
hard for me to decide which items I want to try for on the quick, little mini
raffle.
SO, this is what I am going to do... I am send a check to Joye for $40.00
which is to be used for
We got our first snow here in North Carolina today. School got out
early, so I was glad to get home and take the dogs out in it. Socrates, at
9, has begun to slow down and limp pretty regularly from arthritis. No
sign of either today. He ran and chased and played with Bagley through the
huge
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Gen and Kobi,
Enjoyed you photos very much - Kobi must have snuck in a few Cute Lessons
before you took those photos :-) as he is a darling. Also loved the page on
your web site with the Queen of the Cows fights - I guess you had to be there
- the trophy bells are lovely. Did they have any d
My vet suggested fish oil omega 3 fatty acid supplements, Manson was loosing
his hair from allergies. His coat is getting beautiful and the hair is
growing back in now (he has only been taking it for 3 weeks.
I give him a 1000mg twice a day, for his 94lbs. I get Spring Valley #60 for
under $4 at Wa
Hi All,
We currently have a pup Berner, 2 yr old boy named Koc. We were thinking
about getting him a friend. For this reason, I was wondering if any of you
could help me find a reputable breeder in Florida. We live in Florida and I
would want to make sure Koc and the puppy get along good before
Doug wrote --
" I am happy to say that we helped with the 2 girls that Bruce Whiteside
had in
Michigan and I was able to offer a great new home for them which I
understand has worked out well."
Doug and fellow Listers --
We are the home that the two older girls from MI went to. We are so
grateful
-Original Message-
From: Joanne Gerow
>> The best part is my dog is now a Canadian Champion!
Joanne,
That is a definite brag, and a great one at that! Congratulations!!
Are you familiar with the Berner-L Brag Fund? It's voluntary, all
donations from $0 to $1,000,000 are cheerfully acce
I've been taking my Hannah to a little city pretty much every day , I have
to wait for my daughter while she's in ballet classes daily. Hannah is
known to most of the shop owners now , and to many people who work in the
area and walk past us :-). Today I got the fright of my life when a
gentleman p
amazon has the book, so does by jove
andrea, woofit and chi
shavertown, pa
http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/
I just got back from Montreal Canada this Sunday. It was my first trip and
I had a blast. The best part is my dog is now a Canadian Champion!
To finish, a dog must get 10 points under at least 3 different judges.
Points range from 1 to 5 points, depending on the amount of dogs entered.
(You don
Has been great to see just how many other Berner owners also have horse and
ponies! Any pics forthcoming here? Happy to make up a special page on my
Friends Gallery!
I have just, very belatedly, (post bad gales here UK that set me way
behind!) uploaded some new pics from Carole and Tony's visit he
> Recently my 4 month old BMD (Bella) has been having an inordinate amount
of eye discharge.
Any sort of eye discharge in any of my animals I always keep a tube of
Brolene. Used to be Golden Eye ointment here UK, no doubt in the US you have
a similar cream over the counter, chemist/pharmicist, f
> Could someone please advise me if there is a user friendly supplement or
> additive that I could use for Stevie's dry skin. It is just a wee bit
flakey
> and I usually call that kind of flakiness at this time of year, Winter
> skin.
I would add oily fish to his diet, after all our Berners were
Rupert, my 16 month old Berner, has an umbilical hernia.
In view that it didn't seem to worry his breeder, nor my vet and, most
importantly, doesn't appear to worry my dog, I just left it alone. I
intended to have it fixed when he was neutered at 10 month - but then
promptly forgot all about it at
Andrea,
I start all my pups at 7-8 weeks in harness pulling leashes behind them.
The I attach a cereal box or pillow case to the leashes. Pretty soon they
have a little plastic puppy cart they pull around certainly by 10 weeks old.
Of course, these little training sessions last all of 2 minutes!
The Chattahoochee Valley Bernese Mountain Dog Club is hosting a carting
workshop near Greenville, SC January 11, 2003. You can visit
www.cvbmdc.org/newsletter.html for more information, but please don't laugh.
Our website is in the baby stages. Contact me with your name and address and
I will send
Some of the ways to get the dog back up on the top of the mountain, roaming
about the farm, would be to appoint breed wardens (I would like these to be
no-nonsense kind of gals like Mary Alice, Debby Mulvey, and Esther Mueller
(excuse spellings), rules that allow no leniency such as you may not
Mary-Ann wrote
> I remove rear dewclaws only.
Why are rear dewclaws removed? Is it solely to conform to the breed
standard?
Or is there another reason why rear dewclaw should be removed?
My younger Berner has a full set of dewclaws ( front and rear) and the nails
of the hind dewclaws are a pain.
Hi Dean,
I actually have _both_ of the popular dog ramps, so I can tell you the
pros/cons of each. I first bought the "Petstep" when at about 8 1/2 years of
age, Crombie (who weighed about 105-110) began to have trouble leaping into
the back of my Landcruiser on occassion (the tailgate is 31" high
Hi Dean,
Way to go, Praline! For a dog ramp, try www.solutionscatalog.com
(877-718-7901)
Sharon Greenberg (St. Louis, MO)
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From: "Dean Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 12:44 PM
Sub
The problem is that the book is not available in Europe. Amazon UK
doesn't yet carry it.
For those of you in Europe that would like copies, I'm sure Joye Neff or
I can help out. Email us privately.
Pat Long (& Luther)
Berwyn PA
Hello,
I have very bad experiences with kibbles (croquettes), so many years ago I
opted for a cooked food with ingredients of human food (white meat, rice,
vegetables, yoghourt) and I add vitamins and minerals. I also give to my
berners a lot of treats (cheese, biscuits and some dry bread) because
Vicky,
I know the Rotties have something similar, it may just
be based on temperament though. I have heard of dogs
here in Texas that were banned from breeding if they
did not pass the Temperament test, one of my tracking
buddies faced this with her Rottie she was very
disappointed since he had h
Hi Kathryn,
Thanks for your response to my question re. flying pups. I am planning to
take the 8 week old pup in a Sherpa bag under my seat, & I'm not going in
the cargo hold pressurized or not! : )
Mary-Ann & I have already made the necessary arrangements.
Sharon Greenberg
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Hi Jennifer,
here are two website that will help you.
This one lists all the upcoming dog shows by province
http://www.dogbiz.com/dog-shows-can/shows-menu-can.htm
This one explains the difference between Canadian and
American shows
http://www.angelfire.com/bc2/CKCShowDogs/USdogs.html
Hope that
I rarely have to trim toenails on my dogs including dewclaw nails. I always
figured the dogs wear the regular nails down through their daily exercise.
Dogs who are not as active or who have gross conformational flaws have nails
that need more attention at my house. Maybe they DO wear down the dew
The best car ramp which I found and bought is "petstep ramp".
This ramp is not sold in France and it was very difficult to import it ; but
it is perfect for my 2 Berners and especially very solid (Phlibust weighs
more than 65 kg and we have no problem with this ramp).
Corinne
Phlibust & Wonda
Near
Hi Jennifer,
To get a dog accross into Canada, I believe you need the reg'n papers and a
certificate of vaccination.
As far as shows, most shows are handled by the show giving club and not a
superintendent like in the US. You can get all the info you need to contact
show secretaries to obtain pr
We LOVE this ramp. It has carpet so that the dogs don't slip,
and is very sturdy for big dogs.
Go to Dogramp.com. They are a small little company out
of Florida - very nice people.
Our friends just got one for their 150 lb. Newfoundland, and
we just donated one to the local Veterinary shelter.
We
Well, just imagine how much better horses would be if only they had dew
claws!!! ;)
Mary-Ann
ORIGINAL POST:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm as frustrated as you with much of the BMDCA...but I can't point a finger
t the club per se, nor the leadership. Nor can I point a finger at the large
breeders, simply because I truly don't know how they feel about the various
proposals that have been
Hi Emma,
If I can help you, do not hesitate to use my private address mail ;-)
Can you say to me in private which is the French breeder about whom you talk
and which were problems ?
Corinne, (speaking perfect french but bad english ;-) )
Phlibust & Wonda
Near Paris (France)
http://PassionsBB.free
Thank you Mary Ann. I guess the only time my dogs cantered or galloped
was when they took the jumps and they did not seem affected by the lack
of dewclaw. I am curious how horses function as the movement you describe
is very easily seen in the galloping and cantoring horse although I
always thought
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 10:18:39 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I'm as frustrated as you with much of the BMDCA...but I can't point
> a finger
> at the club per se, nor the leadership. Nor can I point a finger at
> the large
> breeders, simply because I truly don't know how they feel about the
>
"Nose to Nose" can be purchased at Amazon.com... hope I got the right
book:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0972145702/103-8066461-4415866
The Bernese Mountain Dog 2003 Wall Calendar is also on there.
Jason Durbin
Tallahassee, FL
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Happy to provide info :)
"A discussion of the dog's foot would not be complete without mention of the
dew claws. In most dogs, the dew claws are attached to the bones of the
pastern by a joint. When dogs canter or gallop there is one moment when a
single front leg remains on the ground, bearin
I think a couple of sources were mentioned earlier (Boris's Books website,
and ??? -- sorry, my Sometimer's Disease is acting up today). I got mine
directly from Barry Schieber, the author, at [EMAIL PROTECTED] If
you order 15 at one time, the total cost (including shipping) is only $10.15
pe
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 08:02:23 -0700 "Mary-Ann Bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> ..The front ones seems to actually serve
> a
> function, especially for performance dogs.
I have heard this several times. It has been awhile since I've done any
performance work and it was limited to obedienc
Hi Dean,
As a youngster, my Buddy would not voluntarily get in the back of my Subaru
Outback. I had to put his feet in first and then hoist in his back end. Even
Pat Long once had to help me shove him in the car. You could have steak in
your hand, and he would still want to be lifted.
One time, e
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 09:58:49 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Can you elaborate on that Susan...I'm not sure exactly what you mean
> by
> "bloodlines".
Sherri
I agree the term was used incorrectly (excuse that 5am composition). I
think what I should have said to be more exact is that there a
Hi Carol,
I would not induce vomiting to retreive a bone only for soft articles. I
would feed her as normal and watch for a bowel movement. If you have any
suspicion that she is in trouble then go to your vet for an xray. Dogs have
a short gut and their food goes through quicker than ours!
et al:
Hi Trisha,
If they stated "Health Certificate" you must have a vet do a health check
and provide you with a official health certificate. They usually require two
copies, one of which must be the original. Last time I used American this is
what they required I have. The shots and wormings will be r
Hi,
I live in France and feed Kobi (3/4 Berner, 1/4
Appenzeller) BARF food for the most part, but when we
travel for more than a day we have found a very good
organic dog food called Yarrahs that we give him
(chicken chunk flavor). This we get from the local
health food store, as I can't find it
I am flying this weekend on American Airlines to
Canada to bring a pup to Wisconsin. American needs to
see the heath certificate (shot record) and to be
notified in advance of a puppy/dog being on board. I
am lucky enough that the puppy will be under 22 lbs
and is allowed to be my carry on luggag
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Hi Pauline,
We recently had a litter of puppies in which several had very large attached
rear dews which were just like extra toes.
The vet removed them and all was fine.
I have also had it seem that the occasional puppy had no rear dews, or only
one, but later on they appeared. The vet said that
I was told this Swiss saying when I met my breeders in Switzerland:
3 years a young dog
3 years an adult dog
3 years an old dog
anything else is a gift from God
Bogen will be 11 in February so I have almost been given 2 years and
I hope for many more...
Molly and the gang
Charlottesville, VA
Hi All,
A Berner can learn to cart at a much younger age than 2, but and this is a
big But.. No Heavy Weight until the age of 2..I have taught many people with
there dogs and have had some dogs as young as 8 or 9 months..The important
thing is that the dog have some basic obedience and be somewhat
When we brought Skyland's Pralines in Cream into our home in 1993.
We bought a 1992 left over van, we always called it Pralines van.
And any time someone ask how much does it cost to keep a Berner we
always include the price of the van. Well I am glad to announce that
the van died this week and Pra
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Hi Jennifer and all,
Here is the other info. you requested:
In Canada you are not required to have two wins of major points in order to
gain his/her Championship. Your dog has to win a total of 10 points. The
number of dogs/bitches your dog wins over decides the number of points each
win earns.
In
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From: Ruth Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Do breeders usually have their BMD pups due claws removed?
>
> According to the breed standard rear dewclaws should be removed.
Aahh, but for the sake of those who have never looked at the dewclaws on
newborn puppies -
D
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Hi Jennifer & Everyone,
Here is a great link to dog show information.
If you click on conformation it will explain dog shows, how to get started
showing etc.
There is a link for dog show superintendants, (including Western Dog Shows,
which handles the Canadian shows) AKC, CKC, Obedience, herding e
How does one go about finding out dates for Canadian shows, entering
Canadian shows, and what are the requirements to get a dog into Canada for a
show. I know the point system is different too. Any info would be
appreciated.
Jennifer
Be sure to ask if the cargo bay is pressurized (w/air & heat) if the pup has
to fly down there. I got one idiot who booked a flight to WI for the Nat'l
for Tobin & I. The next day, I called back to get one more question
answered, got a different guy & found out the previous guy didn't have a
c
Michaela, I think that Lisa's point is primarily that no one who loves Berneses, warts
and all (literally and figuratively), wants to see the breed go the way of the
Dalmation, the Rottweiler, or even the Golden...bred in numbers to meet perceived
demand, often bought up by people who "saw the m
I just asked my British friend, she says Ireland (NOT NORTHERN) does NOT
have quarantine!! So, presuming your cousin is moving to Ireland, and not
Northern Ireland ... It may be easy. If she is going to N. Ireland, then
quarantine comes into play. Pet passport is supposed to be open for N.
America
posted in plain text for Cathie:
I just received a very sad phone call from my dear friend, Laura Peschke of Cleveland,
Ohio. Laura has been the proud keeper of my first born pup, Wingfield's American Pi
aka "Pi". Pi was due to come into this world on the 4th of July, hence the name.
(Alth
Lisa
> How can we possibly expect to improve health in the breed if over 2000 per
> year are bred in the USA alone, and these are ONLY the Berner pups
> registered with the AKC!
and, more cryptically:
> With a population of Berners, regardless of source, exploding, perhaps an
> understatement, an
In a message dated 12/4/2002 8:41:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> The BMDCA has it's own agenda which seems to be one of placating the
> large breeder (no code of ethics yet that could possibly require anything
> of substance from it's membership) and holding dog shows.
I remove rear dewclaws only. The front ones seems to actually serve a
function, especially for performance dogs. My vet comes to our home when the
puppies are 2-3 days old to remove dewclaws. She numbs the area first and
the tiny injection was not problematic for the puppies. Although some
objected
In a message dated 12/4/2002 8:41:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I only hope
> that there are at least a core of breeders choosing to maintain strict
> controls and keep bloodlines that in the end can be worked with in a
> responsible way once the "fad" ends
>
Can
I was wondering if anyone can tell of their experiences with pet insurance:
the realities vs the myths.Cancers covered/not covered.etc.
Thanks, Debbie Hennes
- Original Message -
From: "Hicks, Jackie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 8:30 AM
> Do breeders usually have their BMD pups due claws removed?
According to the breed standard rear dewclaws should be removed. According
to the breed standar
In a message dated 12/4/2002 9:32:01 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Do breeders usually have their BMD pups due claws removed?
In the US, responsible breeders have rear dewclaws removed when pups are a
day or two old. Front dews may be either left intact or removed dep
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I sent an entry this morning or at least I think that I did. Why am I having
such a problem with sending things. Pat, could you please let me know if you
received it. The gist of my epistle was about the many health issues
concerning Berners. If you did not receive it I would like to resend it.
Ple
I forgot to mention in my post about the BMD Calendars, Joye has 3 of the Signature
Calendars for the BARC/LOC raffle so if you miss out on ordering direct from LSBMDC
you can try and win one -- again your helping great causes!
Pat Tackett
Texas
i have read that a berner should not start carting until age two. what are
the roots of those guidelines. is that a statement for drafting or
recreational carting?
thanks
andrea, woofit and chi
shavertown, pa
http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/
There are several Berner calendars -- Pet Prints sell one that Bernd Gunter does (VERY
nice photographs) Brown Trout sells a BMD calendar.
Lone Star BMDC is selling one they produced using unusually marked BMD's, it's
called the "Signature Calendar" the profits are going to Light One Candle
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I've reached the cynical point in this breed that we are beyond saving
it. The BMDCA has it's own agenda which seems to be one of placating the
large breeder (no code of ethics yet that could possibly require anything
of substance from it's membership) and holding dog shows. The grass roots
efforts
Kathy,
I recently did a bit of research on that saying, and the closest that I
could come is:
"Three years a young dog, three years a good dog, three years an old dog,
all else is a gift from God."
Pat Long (& Luther)
Berwyn PA
___
I must say that I entered this Berner world with perhaps my eyes and ears
shut. When I purchased my beautiful boy in March of this year I had no idea
about all of the problems and health issues associated with this breed. I
wholeheartedly admit that I was hypnotized and absolutely smitten when I s
I have a version of the Swiss saying that was given to me by a Swiss person
with one more important part.
"Three years a young dog, three years a good dog, three years an old dog and
three years a gift from God."
So having Berners living to 11, 12 is very possible, it is also a special
gift. In
Lisa,
Here in Europe they have some very high quality dog foods. Certainly there is more variety (or at least it is easier to find variety), bags of dried veggie flakes, dried egg flakes, and a wide assortment of kibbles and canned foods. I'm not sure how wide-spread BARF is in France, but judgin
Barbara,
I put together a poster to display at the Philadelphia Dog Show about
the costs of owning a berner, it's a list of normal first year costs,
and a list of the costs of various genetic based problems that reputable
breeders attempt to minimize, and a list of costs to breeders for
testing br
Hi Jennie,
Pets coming into the UK have to travel under the Pets Travel Scheme (known as
PETS) or go into 6 months quarantine. All the current vaccine/health cert
requirements for the PETS can be found on
http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/quarantine/index.htm
Hope that helps!
Jude Simonds
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