I agree with what your saying to some extent... with a big BUT though...
Some preamble
A study of two bird species which were seperated only thousands of years agi
by a mountain range. Now, one bird species builds its nests by flying to the
ground and picking up twigs with it's feet, the other
I saw the preview of the upcoming movie Pearl Harbor yesterday. Seems to me
the characters playing the US military men stationed at Pearl were all a bit
too cheerful, raising their fists in triumphant glory. I decided that the
history books were once again wrong, and the movies are where to go to
Gel, I agree with everything you said except this;
These children were TAUGHT to shoot a gun by their
parents/relatives in the
case of the Columbine kids.
They were hunters..weren't they?
That is where they learnt to handle guns.
Hunting does teach a person how to handle guns. And, if
it is
At 09:25 AM 5/7/2001 -0400, you wrote:
Gel, I agree with everything you said except this;
These children were TAUGHT to shoot a gun by their
parents/relatives in the
case of the Columbine kids.
They were hunters..weren't they?
I don't think they were actually. But the they also had bombs, last
And the statement that they were hunters and trained by relatives
to handle
firearms,is something you will almost never find in a mainstream media
report on the Columbine incident.
Because, at least in America, and IMHO, we have a culture where it is easier
to blame big media, big companies,
| As an anecdotal evidence; I know how to handle
| fire-arms of many kinds yet I do not own any and would
| never knowingly take a human life, not even in self
| defense or defense of family.
Huh? Now I have just as much respect for life as the next person, maybe
even more so than many (how
-Original Message-
From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 09:14
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Violent education
At 09:25 AM 5/7/2001 -0400, you wrote:
Gel, I agree with everything you said except this;
These children were TAUGHT to shoot a gun
Let me add to that. I think they were trained to by relatives to shoot guns
for the purpose of hunting. But the weapons that they had were not used for
hunting. I do not think these kids went hunting on a regular basis.
I think they were just nuts. The parents were not watching them, and they
As an avid hunter (I've been shooting guns since I was 10) and a very proud prior
military (SGT - 5th Special Forces Group - FT. Campbell, KY) I thought I would
chime-in on this topic...
I honestly think it comes down to one thing. Our society today does everything and
anything it can to
This depends on the state. The laws are different from state to state, and
in some cases the cities have laws of their own.
This is not the case in Kentucky. You do have to go through a training
program to carry a concealed weapon, but you can go to the local gun show
which comes through
Oh now I see!
By saying They were hunters weren't they
it can be taken to mean that ..yes yes yes ok ok I get it now.
what I meant by that was that they were hunters, i.e. they were supposed to
be using their gun skills to go hunt deer and what have you,with their ma
and pa and uncle etc.
Not
My Parents wouldn't let me have firecrackers let alone Automatic
weapons or
propane tanks. How you can let this go by in your own home without being
the least bid scared for your own life is beyond me.
That's your first problem, Nick. You assume that parents feel responsible
for their
Yea I guess when I was in high school 4 years ago things were different.
At 10:37 AM 5/7/2001 -0400, you wrote:
My Parents wouldn't let me have firecrackers let alone Automatic
weapons or
propane tanks. How you can let this go by in your own home without being
the least bid scared for
exactly,
When in our society did we start making the villains into the victims?
From: Mark Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Violent education
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 10:32:13 -0400
As an avid hunter (I've been shooting guns
Yea I guess when I was in high school 4 years ago things were different.
I know I was being a bit extreme but I actually do think things _are_
different, even just 4 years ago. Again, I see it as a whole 'culture' of
lack of responsibility, and I _do_ think it's gotten worse.
Ray Camden
My wife works in the public school system here in Louisiana. She comes home
with nightmarish stories of some of the behavior she observes.
She told me about a child in 5th grade who threatend to kill his teacher.
After everything took place, mama tells the staff he attemted to commit
suicide
We have President I did not have sexual relations... to thank for that
attitude. He refused to take responsibility for his actions and he was the
leader of the free world. Why should have to take responsibility for my
actions?
I think it happened when it was no longer politically correct to make
villains villians.
Russel Madere, Jr. Senior Web Developer
ICQ: 5446158 http://www.TurboSquid.com
Some days you eat the bear; some days
My wife works in the public school system here in Louisiana. She
comes home
with nightmarish stories of some of the behavior she observes.
One of my best friends from Louisiana was a teacher in a public school for
about a year before she ran to a Catholic school. Ditto for an uncle of
i would like to add something to this, as a mom i see this one all the time
in many of my children's friends...
many parents today are confusing discipline/punishment for abuse and have
resigned themselves to allow their children to run amok versus being
labelled as an abusive parentpeople
agreed. parents are responsible. however, too many of them are into their
own lives way too much: worried more about their own interests, regardless
of economic status (e.g. they could be more interested in the game on
saturday or the cars they drive).
and yet when their kids go ballistic, they
Also, handling a rifle or shotgun is a lot different than handling a
pistol...and has different laws in different states/counties/cities...
The Other Judith
Nick McClure put into words:
This depends on the state. The laws are different from state to state, and
in some cases the cities have
A particular client of ours insists on hosting with a company who has a less
than desirable uptime record. I'd like to be able to monitor their
connectivity for a few days and generate some statistics on uptime and
reliability. I'll probably set up monitoring from several network points on
the
OK. Had to jump in here. You guys are hitting close to home with a
particular pet peeve of mine
Parents and their kids. A lot of my friends had really good relationships
with their parents along with some who didn't (but that's par for the
course), and most of the time, most parents took an
As much as i despise klinton, I think the problem is much deeper then that.
It just boils down to the fact that kids are not getting taught the values
that they need. Here in the US, success is usually based on money and
material items. This view is one of the reasons that we see so many of
AMEN Brother Mark!! ;o)
However, I don't feel that going back to an Ozzy and Harriet stereotyped
family unit is necessarily the answer. Time and history have proven that
the more repressive a society is, the more licentious the 'underbelly' of
that society. (Think of the Black Market, or the
we should all change our name to judith.
~~
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Remember last week when my client got hacked by PoisonBox?
Well www.webex.com got it this week!! They work fast though, those webex
people, they already pulled the bad pages down.except for all the
partner sites...can't get in.
And we use webex and one of our clients is doing a demo in a
Just my 2 cents. Guns have NOTHING to do with people killing each other. If
guns didn't exist, people would find another weapon - knives, rocks, sticks,
etc. Focusing on gun control is nothing more than a cop out for those to
weak to stand up for personal responsibility and personal
http://mc2.webex.com
Erika
(with a *K*)
Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to
be amused.
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I've been writing a lot of stuff for a functions book that's already over a
year behind. One part of the book is on CFSCRIPT and UDF. I suggested to
Judith today that I could rip out the chapters on CFSCRIPT, UDF and some
functions, bind it all together and make it a small book.
Do you think
The only problem with that is the impact on those of us that aren't
emotionally or psychologically disturbed. I like duke nukems, DOOMs, Wolf
3Ds, etc... I think it's a parents responsibility to govern any aspect of
their children's lives that they are concerned about. Parents have the right
and
| Why are people defending these hideous games? Its not the games that
matter.
Because some people happen to like these games. Because some people are
getting tired of having everything in the world taken away or censored by
self-serving special intrest groups who feel compelled to force their
Erika - Don't you know that ALL people that hack websites and do anything bad had bad
parents??? :-)
La Guilatine! La Guilatine!
Mark Stewart
Programmer/Analyst
Communication Concepts
215.672.6900 x1332
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/07/01 12:35PM
Remember last week when my client got hacked by
Praise you Sister Judi!!! I think we should start a movement. A cult even. Alright,
who wants to join? :-)
Mark Stewart
Programmer/Analyst
Communication Concepts
215.672.6900 x1332
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/07/01 11:45AM
AMEN Brother Mark!! ;o)
However, I don't feel that going back to an Ozzy
I vote for ebook now and full book later.
Mark Stewart
Programmer/Analyst
Communication Concepts
215.672.6900 x1332
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/07/01 12:39PM
I've been writing a lot of stuff for a functions book that's already over a
year behind. One part of the book is on CFSCRIPT and UDF. I
One problem with your logic, Gun Control does not impede criminals from
getting firearms(Look how much illegal coke is smuggled into this country).
It only impedes lawful citizens. I think everyone for gun control should put
a big sign in their yard (We have no firearms in this household).
Well okbut I was just listening to Dylan,... grin
And why don't you want me in your harem??!! pout
By the way, I'll see you and Judith tomorrow night!!
Who else is coming to see Forta in NYC?
Erika
(with a *K*)
Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to
Did you report this to anyone in law enforcement?
Regards,
Howie
- Original Message -
From: Erika L Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 12:35 PM
Subject: Cool!
Remember last week when my client got hacked by PoisonBox?
sigh
| If we had strict gun control then who would we need to protect ourselves
| from? If the criminals couldn't get guns then people wouldn't think they
| needed them in their houses.
I hate to disagree, but strict gun control isn't going to do much to keep
the guns out of the hands of people.
And so, therefore, All your marklar are belong to marklar !???
Sorry, couldn't resist...
Marc-lar
-Original Message-
From: Daniel Dewey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 12:30 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Judith
As an alternative, can we just all changed
I did say that I would always make an exception for you. You're the only K
I'd ever want. You even called me silver tongued. sigh how soon they
forget the pretty words and flowery speech. Women!
We'll see you then. It should be great. We've got a Mediterranean
salad/falafel bar, give aways and
Amen. I get crap about Death Clock all of the time. People ask me to remove
my site since others may not be able to differentiate(sp) between fantasy
and reality. Lord forbid that people just don't browse my site... no, I
should remove it.
CF_Grrr
Exactly.
It is not like these people are advertising on Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network.
At 01:21 PM 5/7/2001 -0400, you wrote:
Who's impressionable??
The age of the average gamer, and the majority of the gaming market now,
believe it or not..is 18 and over.
Research has shown that after age 5
While the term marklar sounds familiar I can't place it. Where's it from.
Anyway, from your sentence it must mean the same thing as smurf. all your
smurf are belonging to smurf
And so, therefore, All your marklar are belong to marklar !???
Sorry, couldn't resist...
Marc-lar
-Original
*small smile*
You can be in m harem...
*coy look*
-Gel
^_^
-Original Message-
From: Erika L Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Well okbut I was just listening to Dylan,... grin
And why don't you want me in your harem??!! pout
By the way, I'll see you and Judith tomorrow
AMEN Brother Gel!
Same caveat applies as when I responded to Mark's message.
Personal responsibility and accountability apply.
The Other Judith
Angél Stewart put into words:
[SNIP]
And you know what the final nail in the coffin is for these new 'theories'
on Columbine?
School violence hasn't
Speaking of Ebook's, do you have a peice of hardware, or is it just that
Ebook software that I've seen? I've been waiting for Ebook hardware to come
out for awhile.
I think computer books would be perfect for an Ebook harware device, but I
cannot read a book on my computer. Sorta defeats the
My point exactly but its still pretty sad that people even have the
opportunity to make a living pandering what mostly consists of excessive
violence, extreme sexual content and satanic type fantasies. Sure many have
no problem separating the fact from fantasy. Problem is, most people these
days
We've been doing ebooks on PDF but we can look at palm and CE readers as
well. The book would have few graphics which is a plus for ebooks but the
general size of a palm type reader is a major minus.
Personally, I can read a book or two on palm but it really has to be a good
one. A mediocre book
Sure if you call self serving working to create a safer and kinder society -
guilty as charged. Society exists for the good of the whole society, not to
pander to the few vocal ones who bitch about their personal freedoms no
matter how detrimental to the society as a whole they may be. I have no
I use IP Monitor from Media House
http://www.statisticsserver.com/mediahouse/products/
Frank
-Original Message-
From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 12:00 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: A good Ping / Tracert monitor w/stats?
A particular
I completely agree that gun control will have little effect on the criminals
out there. However we aren't talking about the criminals. We're talking
about kids going out and shooting their classmates in cold blood with the
parents weapons. Gun control would come very close to solving that
Who's morals?
Yours?
Mine?
THe government's?
I see no problem with satanic fantasies.
Let's not bring religion into this shall we?
:-)
*dry chuckly*
-Gel
MHAHAHHAAHHAAHA!
^_^
-Original Message-
From: Jim Nitterauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
By your reasoning, anything that
Marklar - South Park Reference .
Actually, with all the talk about CF_FOOD, this one's pretty funny.
http://southparkstudios.com/down/guide.html?id=311
---
Daniel Dewey|Whatever you can do, or dream
Systems Developer | you can, begin it. Boldness has
MCP (NT
games are real. games are good. gamesgames! GAMES!!
AAHAHAHAHAHAHA GAMES!!! GAMES!!!
-Original Message-
From: Jim Nitterauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 11:13 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Violent education
Sure if you call self serving working
all this talk of parents/children.
i thought i'd share.
http://www.bromby.com/ew2
--dylan
~~
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What do you mean if the criminals couldn't get guns. Even if they made no
news guns. There are enough Guns in this country to arm everybody. And the
import trade would skyrocket. Much more guns would be created outside the
US and imported. Then only criminals have guns, and what is going to
When did it become your job to determine my Morals?
People are going to sell what sells. Sex and violence sells. If I want to
buy, why can't I?
At 12:57 PM 5/7/2001 -0500, you wrote:
My point exactly but its still pretty sad that people even have the
opportunity to make a living pandering what
My last reply on this subject
I monitor everything my Sons play...
12 and 5
I let them play quite a bit however when my 5 year old gets to hyper I make
him stop playing that game. He on his first day of kindergarten was showing
the other kids how to play on the computer. He is learning
Well on that token, if we're getting rid of things that are detrimental and
bad, we're abolishing the right to bear arms and making guns illegal. I'm
sure hunters can get back into the spirit of hunting and pick up a bow and
arrow and since I've yet to see any solid evidence that owning a gun
Where do you think morality originates?
-Original Message-
From: Angél Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 1:14 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Violent education
Who's morals?
Yours?
Mine?
THe government's?
I see no problem with satanic fantasies.
Let's not
You still don't get it do you? But then maybe you are one of the one's
making a living off of these games. That's fine so long as you know where to
draw the line. Nothing magical happens at age 18. Immaturity does not
magically go away when one turns 18. If one has no values nor the ability to
Where there is a buyer there is always a seller. That's why prohibition
didn't work, why the drug war doesn't work, and why gon control won't work.
-george
From: Nick McClure [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Violent education
Date:
Whoa, Whoa, Whoa there!!! Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Guns are just a
heartless, soulless instrument that people choose to use to do harm to others. Bats,
knives, etc. are just instruments as well. Getting rid of guns is not the answer. That
would be putting a band-aid on
Citizens may own guns, Subjects may not.
The Other Judith
Nick McClure put into words:
What do you mean if the criminals couldn't get guns. Even if they made no
news guns. There are enough Guns in this country to arm everybody. And the
import trade would skyrocket. Much more guns would be
Actually, historical speaking the right to bear arms was included in the
bill of rights so that people could protect themselves from their own
government, not from criminals or animals. Also at that time, we had a very
small standing army with the thought that if needed the people would rise
so why don't we stop printing In God We Trust on money?
:-)
-Original Message-
From: Angél Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 11:14 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Violent education
Who's morals?
Yours?
Mine?
THe government's?
I see no problem with satanic
In peoples heads. There was Morality long before there was religion. People
who are not religious still have morals. People who are very religious can
still be immoral. Did you ever hear of the Crusades?
At 01:48 PM 5/7/2001 -0500, you wrote:
Where do you think morality originates?
I completely agree, no amount of laws will ever completely end anything,
because you're right. Where there is demand supply will be available.
However if guns weren't so easy to get a hold of you have to admit that many
would not commit acts of violence. If a kids gets beat up by a bully and has
I'm pretty sure that if it ever came down to the gov't calling on the
citizens to pick up a gun and defend the country, it'd be a pretty dark day,
we've got the strongest military in the county, I'm pretty sure anybody
owning a gun just in case they'll get tapped, will be waiting a long time.
J.
Riiight.
maybe we should start CF-Religion!! MIKE HOOK US UP!! :)
-Original Message-
From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 12:14 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Violent education
In peoples heads. There was Morality long before there was
Cool. Twins. I know someone'll be up all night coding and rocking. :)
Mazal Tov (while many believe this means congratulations or good luck, the
actual translation in context is closer to you should have good spiritual
influences)
all this talk of parents/children.
i thought i'd share.
In the words of eddie izzard (a hilarious british comic):
I swear he must be the best comic out today. If you haven't had a chance to
hear his act yet - you _must_ take the time.
-Raymond Camden
~~
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Well there ya go!! LOL
J.
John Wilker
Web Applications Consultant
Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer
www.red-omega.com http://www.red-omega.com
Pessimism - Every dark cloud has a silver lining, but lightning kills
hundreds of people each year who are trying to find it. ~despair.com
Just to get things going even more:
Four Children Stabbed in Anchorage
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010507/us/children_stabbed_3.html
At 03:31 PM 5/7/2001 -0400, you wrote:
In the words of eddie izzard (a hilarious british comic):
The National Rifle Association says guns don't kill
I truly wish the German people hadn't fallen for gun control back when.
Maybe then I would have been able to actually meet my aunts and uncles. I
hear they were some really wonderful people.
Unfortunately, though, some very well-dressed soldiers wearing jackboots
showed up one day at their
Nice kitty
http://www.geocities.com/purplewyvern.geo/bigkitty.htm
The Other Judith - thankful that her cats aren't anywhere near that big. ;o)
Judith Taylor
ICQ: 67460562
Freelance ColdFusion Developer - Athens, OH
Friends don't let friends code before coffee.
We don't wear trenchcoats nor brandish weapons...
-Cameron
Cameron Childress
elliptIQ Inc.
p.770.460.7277.232
f.770.460.0963
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Yeah, that's real. It must be 'cause it was on da net :-)
Howie
- Original Message -
From: Judith Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 3:54 PM
Subject: Cats grin
Nice kitty
we could beat you with thick a$$ CF books though LOL
--
Stephenie Hamilton
-Original Message-
From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 4:06 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: ColdFusion Mafia?
We don't wear trenchcoats nor brandish weapons...
-Cameron
Well, if you don't know, maybe that is the place to start
-Original Message-
From: Judith Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 2:32 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Violent education
When has Society ever been 'moral'? And who determines that 'morality'?
On Monday, May 7, 2001, Adam Phillip Churvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I truly wish the German people hadn't fallen for gun control back when.
Maybe then I would have been able to actually meet my aunts and uncles. I
hear they were some really wonderful people.
Unfortunately, though, some very
We don't wear trenchcoats nor brandish weapons...
we could beat you with thick a$$ CF books though LOL
But we do have a webpage:
http://stats.distributed.net/rc5-64/tmsummary.php3?team=865184487
-Cameron
Cameron Childress
elliptIQ Inc.
p.770.460.7277.232
f.770.460.0963
John - The reason I own so many guns is the same reason all those sports cards
collectors have so many cards - because they can or because they like to collect that
certain thing. Now, I know you're saying, but Mark, trading cards don't kill people.
Well John, neither do guns my friend. Has it
Whoa there .. easy big fella :)
| Sure if you call self serving working to create a safer and kinder
society -
| guilty as charged.
I'm talking stupid things like the 'outlawing' of prayer in schools (so much
for the seperation of church and state huh?). It started out by the
government
Good Lord, that's a huge cat!! Either of my two cats could get on her back
and ride it around. Heck, *I* could probably ride it!
Chris
-Original Message-
From: Judith Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 2:55 PM
Nice kitty
So, by your statement then, Society has been moral...when? At what age (and
I'm not talking about a person's age, I'm talking about an historical age.)
Thank you, but your morals are not mine. Neither is better than the other.
You don't know me and I don't know you. You live your life as you
| I completely agree, no amount of laws will ever completely end anything,
| because you're right. Where there is demand supply will be available.
| However if guns weren't so easy to get a hold of you have to admit that
many
| would not commit acts of violence. If a kids gets beat up by a bully
Congratulations!
They're beautiful and those are TERRIFIC weights for twins!
Erika
- Original Message -
From: Dylan Bromby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 12:22 PM
Subject: on a gentler note
: all this talk of parents/children.
:
: i
Then somehow we went from school officials not forcing students to
pray, to school officials forcing students not to pray. Now how is that
good for society? All that is good for is trampling the rights of people to
practice their religions freely and without intereference. It's the first
I thought the message below was quite appropriate for this discussion...
Btw, yes, I am a gun collecting, NRA card carrying, father of 2 (beautiful)
daughters
who learned to shot guns at 5 7 years old, and get drilled about gun
safety
every time a gun is present. Even though my daughters know
Howie,
Should I have or are you being facetious?
the last time we were hacked I tracked down all the IP addresses and
reported them to each abuse@ email address for every server they belonged
to, but didn't get anywhere.
Erika
(with a *K*)
Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they
WOW! Congrats Dylan! All this talk about bad parents and here you are a
proud parent! (assuming they are yours, right?) grin Very pretty little
babies.
Erika
(with a *K*)
Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to
be amused.
-Original Message-
From:
Oh, Gel, you always make me smile! grin
What about Molly? g
Erika
(with a *K*)
Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to
be amused.
-Original Message-
From: Angél Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 1:40 PM
To: CF-Community
The only thing I can say in regards to that is, my baseball card collection
can't kill, my stamp collection and comic book collections can't either.
Unless I were to tie some one down and slash at them for a very long time,
longer than I probably have the energy for. However your gun collection
I have an eBook (http://www.ebook-gemstar.com) that let's me upload anything
I want to it. Even emails. Would be great for your book Michael!
Erika
(with a *K*)
Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to
be amused.
-Original Message-
From: Jon Hall
You should report these things to the FBI (I wasn't being facetious, for once).
Regards,
Howie
- Original Message -
From: Erika L Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 5:19 PM
Subject: RE: Cool!
Howie,
Should I have or are you
I own swords and throwing knives. I don't have to have a licence to own
these. I don't have to have a license to use them. They are just as deadly
as a gun. They are harder to trace and in the case of some of the knives,
much easier to hide.
They are quite, don't require me to purchase
A little levity if you will... :)
An elderly couple is watching one of those television preachers on TV one
night. The preacher faces the camera and announces, My friends, I'd like
to share my healing powers with everyone watching this program. Place one
hand on top of your TV and the
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