RE: Back...again...like cheap luggage

2004-03-11 Thread Erika L Walker-Arnold
WOW!!! Long time no see ... welcome back to the list!!! Here's a double giant fresh cooked blueberry muffin for you! Cheers, Erika -- From: Guy Good to be back. It's a little hard shaking off the ring rust. [Todays Threads] [This Messag

Re: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Graeme
> cup, a tasse, a pet or a cawan, a cup is meant to be used. Stop arguing > and drink, stop squabbling and refresh your thirst." This is the > Buddhist attitude to other religions. Yeah, I've noticed that the Buddhist attitude is to be subtley patronizing. ;-) -Kevin [Todays Threads] [This Mes

Back...again...like cheap luggage

2004-03-11 Thread Guy McDowell
Did you ever try to throw out a garbage can? Just doesn't work does it? Well, I'm back in the CF world again. Sort of. I went back to university last fall after a disappointing year of chain-jerking work in another field. I'm doing a B.A. in Medieval Studies (I intend to teach English and History

Design Considerations

2004-03-11 Thread Marlon Moyer
I was thinking about the current project I'm working on.  All my database interaction is done in CFC's and all my queries are written directly against tables.  This goes against how I used to do it, relying on views and stored procs for all my db interaction.  My new method "feels" wrong, but it su

RE: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Wayne Putterill
I always enjoy reading these religious threads, the antagonism between religions is one of the reasons why I was agnostic for so long. I thought this bit of text from www.buddhanet.net might be interesting to show that not all religions act in the same way: No Buddhist who understands the Buddha’s

RE: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Jim Davis
Religion and politics are definite no-no's for first dates and job interviews - but here they're open game my friend.  As is sexuality, finance, pets, the slave trade and, well - pretty much everything else. Actually that's a topic that could be fun: describe in your life a time when you really

RE: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Erika L Walker-Arnold
We've always talked of religion and politics here the only rules in place were no malicious personal attacks against anyone. Like me saying Tim is an arogant utter fool and should be TOD. :D /me runs Cheers, Erika -- From: Pablo Varand

Re: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Charlie Griefer
- Original Message - From: "Pablo Varando" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Comments on Catholic Church > I thought "Religion and Politics" were NO-NO topics for bars, work and (CF-talk|CF-Community) lists alike

RE: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Heald, Tim
Where'd you get that idea? Religion and politics are two of the largest topics on this list. Should we never discuss anything that could be misconstrued as offensive? We wouldn't be able to talk about anything. -- Timothy Heald Web Portfolio Manager Overseas Security Advisory Council U.S

Re: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Pablo Varando
I thought "Religion and Politics" were NO-NO topics for bars, work and (CF-talk|CF-Community) lists alike.. ;) We all have our beliefs and disbeliefs, but lets not "discuss" these types of things here.. as it will only offend some people! Pablo -- Original Message ---

RE: dead milkmen suicide

2004-03-11 Thread Heald, Tim
http://www.kexp.org/home.asp?noflash=false They are streaming dead milkmen right now. -- Timothy Heald Web Portfolio Manager Overseas Security Advisory Council U.S. Department of State 571.345.2319 The opinions expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of the U.S. Department of S

Re: dead milkmen suicide

2004-03-11 Thread William H Bowen
looks like its Beelzabubba and Metaphysical graffiti in the player tonight. :-( bret wrote: > For those of you who care: > > http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Music/03/11/music.milkmen.reut/index.html > > -Bret > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Sett

RE: dead milkmen suicide

2004-03-11 Thread Heald, Tim
man does that suck.  I went by the site, its pretty f'd up. Too bad.  I had a lot of respect for those guys. -- Timothy Heald Web Portfolio Manager Overseas Security Advisory Council U.S. Department of State 571.345.2319 The opinions expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of the

Re: dead milkmen suicide

2004-03-11 Thread Jerry Johnson
That really sucks. They remain one of my favorite bands. I get mocked for it, but Bitchin Comaro is in my daily rotation on the iPod. This bumms me out more than the loss of Wendy O Williams. Thanks for the headsup. Jerry Johnson >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/11/04 04:46PM >>> For those of you who c

RE: Gay marriage (was Re: Comments on Catholic Church)

2004-03-11 Thread Sandy Clark
Either that or have marriage be a religious institution only, and only civil unions get benefits of state/federal laws. Separation of church and state, I'm all for it.   _   Personally I believe that marriage is a religious institution until the state offers legal benefits for it - then it

dead milkmen suicide

2004-03-11 Thread bret
For those of you who care: http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Music/03/11/music.milkmen.reut/index.html -Bret [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

microwave popcorn may be deadly

2004-03-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
EPA STUDYING MICROWAVE POPCORN CHEMICALS The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency is investigating chemicals in microwave popcorn that have been linked to a rare lung disease in people who work in factories that produce popcorn. FULL STORY: http://cbc.ca/stories/2004/03/11/popcorn_vapours040311 [T

RE: Gay marriage (was Re: Comments on Catholic Church)

2004-03-11 Thread Heald, Tim
Seriously. Longest AT of my life, and that's just two weeks :) -- Timothy Heald Web Portfolio Manager Overseas Security Advisory Council U.S. Department of State 571.345.2319 The opinions expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of the U.S. Department of State or any affiliated or

Re: Talk about product placement

2004-03-11 Thread brobborb
"Archivist George Redmonds, writing in the organization's Ancestors magazine, discovered in his scrutiny of the birth archives that names now considered to be masculine, such as Philip and Thomas, were once used for girls in the 14th century" I guess if you pronounce Thomas as "Tam-mus" it might m

Re: Gay marriage (was Re: Comments on Catholic Church)

2004-03-11 Thread William H Bowen
true dat! :-) Jim Campbell wrote: > Actually, Leavenworth is such that even if you're not in the federal > prison system, you're still doing time there. > > - Jim > > Angel Stewart wrote: > > >0_0 > > > >You were in jail? > >What were you in for? > > > >-Gel > > > >-Original Message- > >

Talk about product placement

2004-03-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Girl named Diot Coke back in 1379 03/09/04 03:45 PM, EST Naming your child after a popular soft drink could be seen as a little bit faddish but the parents of young Diot Coke might be forgiven -- they gave their baby daughter the name way back in 1379. Read the full story at http://www.cnn.com/2

Re: Gay marriage (was Re: Comments on Catholic Church)

2004-03-11 Thread William H Bowen
Shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die... ^_^ Nah... just lived in the town. Started off as a military brat at the post, then my parents decided they liked the place and retired there... Angel Stewart wrote: > 0_0 > > > You were in jail? > What were you in for? > > > -Gel > > -Original

Re: Gay marriage (was Re: Comments on Catholic Church)

2004-03-11 Thread Jim Campbell
Actually, Leavenworth is such that even if you're not in the federal prison system, you're still doing time there. - Jim Angel Stewart wrote: >0_0 > >You were in jail? >What were you in for? > >-Gel > >-Original Message- >From: William H Bowen    > >heh, did 20 years in Leavenworth m

RE: Gay marriage (was Re: Comments on Catholic Church)

2004-03-11 Thread Jim Davis
That's why I walk way around the Statehouse.  ;^) I'm a little less than agnostic - I'm not gay myself, but my mother-in-law is (she's in NY).  She's been in a great relationship for many years now and they've just gone through writing up wills.  They had all sorts of trouble just leaving things

RE: Gay marriage (was Re: Comments on Catholic Church)

2004-03-11 Thread Angel Stewart
0_0 You were in jail? What were you in for? -Gel -Original Message- From: William H Bowen    heh, did 20 years in Leavenworth myself --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.614 / Virus Database: 393 - Relea

RE: Curious

2004-03-11 Thread Candace Cottrell
Ditto Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer The Children's Medical Center One Children's Plaza Dayton, OH 45404 937-641-4293 http://www.childrensdayton.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] "There is no right price for the wrong product, even if it is inexpensive and delivered on time." >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Gay marriage (was Re: Comments on Catholic Church)

2004-03-11 Thread Harkins, Patrick
Ah, but some jerks just never quit! -Original Message- From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll step up to the challenge, Charlie: >> I hope I never have to come across people like that. Well, then you'll just have to aim better! - Jim Outbound email scanned for viruses. (e23

Re: Gay marriage (was Re: Comments on Catholic Church)

2004-03-11 Thread William H Bowen
heh, did 20 years in Leavenworth myself...what a treat Fred Phelps is :-) my personal favorite tactic of his cult: having children run out in front of cars entering the driveways of Women's Clinics and lay down on the pavement. strange that his group was never brought up on child endangerment ch

Re: Gay marriage (was Re: Comments on Catholic Church)

2004-03-11 Thread Jim Campbell
I'll step up to the challenge, Charlie: >> I hope I never have to come across people like that. Well, then you'll just have to aim better! - Jim Charlie Griefer wrote: >- Original Message - >From: "brobborb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday,

Re: Gay marriage (was Re: Comments on Catholic Church)

2004-03-11 Thread Charlie Griefer
- Original Message - From: "brobborb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:44 PM Subject: Re: Gay marriage (was Re: Comments on Catholic Church) > What a bunch of jerks.  WACKOS! haha.  I hope I never have to come across people like t

Re: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Ben Braver
I did *not* "act like we should all be thanking you". Stuff the sarcasm. I wasn't attacking you. I tried to say some moderate, conciliatory things. Not any more.] -Ben >Sure, just lob rocks over a wall and act like we should all be thanking >you. So sorry your messages are deeply offensive to me  

Re: Gay marriage (was Re: Comments on Catholic Church)

2004-03-11 Thread Jim Campbell
Kick ASS.  I'll bet money it was a contingent from Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, KS, otherwise known as the home of that imitable statesman, Fred Phelps.  I lived in Kansas for 7 years, and I LOVED locking horns with those troglodytes.  I never got into a shouting match or anything - I'd j

Re: Gay marriage (was Re: Comments on Catholic Church)

2004-03-11 Thread brobborb
What a bunch of jerks.  WACKOS! haha.  I hope I never have to come across people like that.   - Original Message -   From: Jerry Johnson   To: CF-Community   Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 2:02 PM   Subject: Gay marriage (was Re: Comments on Catholic Church)   2 messages on this threa

RE: Formatting question

2004-03-11 Thread Lyons, Larry
Tim, Nope still gave a 0 at the start. larry > -Original Message- > From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 3:30 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Formatting question > > > myNumber = numberFormat(myNumber, ".__"); >   > That should do the trick,

RE: Formatting question

2004-03-11 Thread Heald, Tim
myNumber = numberFormat(myNumber, ".__"); That should do the trick, no? -- Timothy Heald Web Portfolio Manager Overseas Security Advisory Council U.S. Department of State 571.345.2319 The opinions expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of the U.S. Department of State or any affi

RE: Gay marriage (was Re: Comments on Catholic Church)

2004-03-11 Thread John Stanley
and you resisted the urge to pummel him unconscious with your fists??? I commend you man. When in the service, and soaking up the local nightlife in Mobile Alabama, we were partying in a local "adult-oriented" establishment when the bible thumpers came a' calling. There was the inevitable

RE: Formatting question

2004-03-11 Thread Adkins, Randy
ListLast(myNum,".") Something like that -Original Message- From: Lyons, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 3:19 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Formatting question Thanks Charlie, I had not thought about that approach. I guess I can do that for correlati

RE: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread John Stanley
    As a bystander to this conversation,  and as an agnostic I can say wholeheartedly that this whole conversation has made me glad of the choice i have made with regards to my faith, or lack thereof of man-ran-religions. : 0_0 : -Original Message- From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: Formatting question

2004-03-11 Thread Lyons, Larry
Thanks Charlie, I had not thought about that approach. I guess I can do that for correlations, but not for z or d scores (they may go over 1.0). Regards, larry > -Original Message- > From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 3:16 PM > To: CF-Commun

Re: Gay marriage (was Re: Comments on Catholic Church)

2004-03-11 Thread William H Bowen
hate is easy. Lyons, Larry wrote: > I've run across the same sort before. I remember watching the news of > Matthew Shepard's funeral in Laramie Wyoming, and seeing those anti-gay > fundamentalist wackos demonstrating and holding signs saying that that > poor > boy deserved what he got. Pardon m

Re: Formatting question

2004-03-11 Thread Charlie Griefer
.#listLast(myNum, '.')# seems like there oughtta be a better way tho, no? - Original Message - From: "Lyons, Larry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:06 PM Subject: Formatting question > >  Sex, Drugs, Rock and Roll, Religi

Re: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Graeme
> > Words are tricky and can be interpreted many ways. > > That is putting it mildly. Try some of the writings of Gnostic Christianity > if you want twisted words. I have. :-) And I also touched on a little bit of Talmudic study too, though since I don't know Hebrew it was just reading other's ar

RE: Gay marriage (was Re: Comments on Catholic Church)

2004-03-11 Thread Lyons, Larry
I've run across the same sort before. I remember watching the news of Matthew Shepard's funeral in Laramie Wyoming, and seeing those anti-gay fundamentalist wackos demonstrating and holding signs saying that that poor boy deserved what he got. Pardon me, but as originally preached Christianity's ba

RE: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Heald, Tim
I don't think he meant to be offensive at all.  These are things that are discussed commonly.  I was raised in an Irish catholic family.  I went to catholic school, and I still have a lot of problems with many of these things.  I wonder where the extra catholic books in the bible came from.  I wond

Re: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Charlie Griefer
- Original Message - From: "William H Bowen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 12:32 PM Subject: Re: Comments on Catholic Church > sounds more like an "asshole" Catholic than a tolerant one... shall we > then tar all Catholics with t

Formatting question

2004-03-11 Thread Lyons, Larry
 Sex, Drugs, Rock and Roll, Religion, goats, sheep Now that's taken care of, I have a quick question, in CF how do you format a number like this .05 instead of 0.05? thx, larry -- Larry C. Lyons Web Analyst American Type Culture Collection email: llyons(at)atcc.org   tel: 703.365.2700.2678

Gay marriage (was Re: Comments on Catholic Church)

2004-03-11 Thread Jerry Johnson
2 messages on this thread brought to mind something that happened at lunch. SIN. Assholes of [insert sect here] faith. This morning, I was completely agnostic about the whole concept of gay marriage. It doesn't affect me, so I really didn't care. While walking to lunch near the Boston Common, I

Re: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread William H Bowen
well, now it'll be a little more tenderized... :-) Lyons, Larry wrote: > And I was planning on goat curry for supper tonight. > > larry > > > -Original Message- > > From: a cantrl. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:31 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re:

RE: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Lyons, Larry
And I was planning on goat curry for supper tonight. larry > -Original Message- > From: a cantrl. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:31 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Comments on Catholic Church > > > /me throws a rock at Larry's holy goat for trying to

RE: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Lyons, Larry
Comments inline > -Original Message- > From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 2:31 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Comments on Catholic Church > Relating to the whole "Jesus IS God" thing, there was an > early Christian movement called Arian

RE: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Haggerty, Mike
Sure, just lob rocks over a wall and act like we should all be thanking you. So sorry your messages are deeply offensive to me  (and probably half the people I know), I will try not to have an opinion in the future and accept everything you have to say. Larry earlier said we have some social respo

Re: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread William H Bowen
sounds more like an "asshole" Catholic than a tolerant one... shall we then tar all Catholics with the epithet "looney" because of this incident? sorry, there's assholes in every faith and creed... will a cantrl. wrote: > Did I ever tell you guys that I went to a Halloween party last year > d

Re: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread William H Bowen
o! Hot coffee through the nose! :-) ROFL! Kevin Graeme wrote: > See, that's because it's also fundamental to most religions that they > try to > prove that other browsers are "false". So while some religious sites work > with a particular browser they will often "attack" the behaviours of

Re: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread a cantrl .
/me throws a rock at Larry's holy goat for trying to be rational in a religious flamewar. >Hey People, before this goes any further, please lets limit the religious >wars to those issues where it matters. In other words, operating systems, >browsers and web application servers. > >larry > >> [Tod

Re: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Graeme
> I think you are using the word "attacking" loosely. > Saying that you disagree with someone, > or that you think they are incorrect, > is not an "attack". Sounds paranoid... Vehemently denouncing something is not an attack? Having scripture that cites how a god smites worshippers of other gods i

March Madness

2004-03-11 Thread Nick McClure
Oh Yeah, it's that time of year again. Already one major upset, St. Joes received a severe beating about the neck and shoulders curtsey of Xavier, and it's only 2:30 on Thursday. For anybody who is interested, I have setup a Yahoo Pickem group for CF-Community. Group ID: 16172 Group Name: cf-com

Re: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Ben Braver
You don't "buy the idea"? Too bad for you. Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular are not at the top of my study list. I have been told a lot of things over the years. So has my wife. Some of them at face value seemed plausible (e.g. idols). Will Bowen posed some arguments I had neve

Re: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Ben Braver
Fine with me, Larry. Never wanted "war". Was asked to provide clarification on wife's opinion on Catholic faith. Did so, and suddenly there are accusations of "attacks" on Catholics. Like I said, I will pass the replies on to my wife. I will let the thread die in peace, unless someone wants to re

RE: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Haggerty, Mike
Not so, I read your post carefully. Quite frankly I don't buy the idea you needed someone else's email to "question the veracity" of that message you posted. Again, most reasonable people would probably recognize this is all massively offensive without needing someone else to explain it to them.

Re: REPUBLICANISM SHOWN TO BE GENETIC IN ORIGIN

2004-03-11 Thread Ben Braver
In the case of the incumbent, I think it's ongoing envy of his father's... > Hmmm, this is contrary to previous research that showed it was caused > by an early imprint of obsession with their father's penis. It's > interesting to see there's a genetic link involved, thanks. > > > >The discov

Re: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Ben Braver
> Did I ever tell you guys that I went to a Halloween party last year > dressed as Jesus and got slugged in the jaw by some "tolerant" > catholic? > > What's up with that? And why is it ok that 10 other people at the > party were dressed as the devil himself and they didn't get slugged? > Seem

Re: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Ben Braver
>I wasn't saying anything about missionaries. Yes Judaism and the Jews have >been attacked for millenia. But it also has plenty of examples where it says >other religions are wrong, and that's what I was saying. The whole not >worshipping idols thing is the obvious example. And Mike has repeatedl

Re: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Jim Campbell
>>  Would there be a costume that would equally cause a Jewish person to haul off and slug someone? Going to a Halloween party dressed as Mel Gibson's father. - Jim a cantrl. wrote: >Did I ever tell you guys that I went to a Halloween party last year dressed as Jesus and got slugged in the jaw

Re: Code indenting in DW

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Graeme
A shift-return gives a in both the code view and the design view, which is what it's supposed to do. I'm to fix a code-view behavior on a normal "Return". It used to work right and now something's screwy. -Kevin - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL

RE: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Lyons, Larry
Hey People, before this goes any further, please lets limit the religious wars to those issues where it matters. In other words, operating systems, browsers and web application servers. larry > -Original Message- > From: Ben Braver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 11, 20

Re: REPUBLICANISM SHOWN TO BE GENETIC IN ORIGIN

2004-03-11 Thread a cantrl .
Hmmm, this is contrary to previous research that showed it was caused by an early imprint of obsession with their father's penis. It's interesting to see there's a genetic link involved, thanks. >The discovery that affiliation with the Republican Party is genetically >determined was announced by s

Re: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Ben Braver
You obviously did not read my post carefully. I'm surprised. /Ben >Ben - > >I don't need to know you or your wife to know the arguments she presents >are a rehash of a bunch of old school attacks launched against the >Catholic Church. They have been used as the justification of numerous >acts of

Re: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Graeme
See, that's because it's also fundamental to most religions that they try to prove that other browsers are "false". So while some religious sites work with a particular browser they will often "attack" the behaviours of other browsers. O_o I'll shut up now. -Kevin - Original Message -

Re: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread a cantrl .
Did I ever tell you guys that I went to a Halloween party last year dressed as Jesus and got slugged in the jaw by some "tolerant" catholic? What's up with that? And why is it ok that 10 other people at the party were dressed as the devil himself and they didn't get slugged? Seems kinda whacky, no

Re: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread William H Bowen
heh... I looked at the site in the Netscape browser (7.1) and all the text came up black (very difficult to read with the dark blue background..) seems to be fine in IE though... Haggerty, Mike wrote: > http://www.messiahtruth.com/response.html > > No one ever tries, yet all these books about h

RE: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Haggerty, Mike
http://www.messiahtruth.com/response.html No one ever tries, yet all these books about how Christ could not have existed keep popping up... M -Original Message- From: Ben Braver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 11:57 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Comments on C

RE: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Haggerty, Mike
Ben - I don't need to know you or your wife to know the arguments she presents are a rehash of a bunch of old school attacks launched against the Catholic Church. They have been used as the justification of numerous acts of violence and exclusion of Catholics both in the U.S. and abroad. If you

Re: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Graeme
I wasn't saying anything about missionaries. Yes Judaism and the Jews have been attacked for millenia. But it also has plenty of examples where it says other religions are wrong, and that's what I was saying. The whole not worshipping idols thing is the obvious example. And Mike has repeatedly refe

RE: Code indenting in DW

2004-03-11 Thread webmaster
Have you tried a soft return (shift+return) Steve -Original Message- From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 12:18 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Code indenting in DW Since DW has come up, I've been having a weird problem. In the code view, when I

Re: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Ben Braver
Good points, MikeyD. And my wife made it clear to me that her points were strictly about Catholic vs. other Christian traditions, and were not addressing Jewish, Islamic, etc. beliefs. re: Jesus as intermediary, we told our kids that Daddy prays directly to God, and Mommy prays to God through Je

Re: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Ben Braver
My religion doesn't try to "save" other believers. And you don't see Jewish missionaries riding around on bicyles badgering people. It, however, has been attacked for two millenia. I personally don't think/feel other belief structures are correct for ME. That doesn't make them wrong for someon

Re: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Ben Braver
Will- please see my reply to M on how positively I reacted to your excellent post. I'm sure my wife will too. -Ben >> My experience has > > been that once someone has become so narrow minded as to accept that > > this is the way things are, there is no amount of discussion that will > > convince

Re: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Ben Braver
Mike- You obviously do not know my wife. And I strongly protest your implication that she is narrow-minded and that, even if wrong, no amount of discussion would change her mind. Shame on you for pre-judging her and painting with a very broad brush. I plan on showing her Will Bowen's very wel

Re: REPUBLICANISM SHOWN TO BE GENETIC IN ORIGIN

2004-03-11 Thread Ben Braver
Sandy - ROFLMAO, thanks!!! /Ben >The discovery that affiliation with the Republican Party is genetically >determined was announced by scientists in the current issue of the journal >NURTURE, causing uproar among traditionalists who believe it is a chosen >lifestyle.  Reports of the gene coding for

RE: Curious

2004-03-11 Thread Erika L Walker-Arnold
Just read that yesterday which is funky because a lot of the client's rankings I just talked about, come from his use of targeted keywords in his titles and H1 tags ... so it will be interesting to see what happens over the next few weeks. There's a FABULOUS website at http://www.webproworld.

RE: Curious

2004-03-11 Thread Harkins, Patrick
Speaking of Google rankings there's an interesting article about recent updates to their algorithm codenamed Brandy at www.sitepoint.com . -Patrick -Original Message- From: Erika L Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . After we cleaned up the pages ... and a couple weeks went by, he

Code indenting in DW

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Graeme
Since DW has come up, I've been having a weird problem. In the code view, when I hit Return it doesn't preserve the current indent level and instead goes to the beginning of the line. I've looked around for a setting in the prefs, but I can't find it. Help please. -Kevin [Todays Threads] [This

RE: Curious

2004-03-11 Thread Ian Skinner
true, but you can do all you say in Code View.  I agree I never use a WYSWYG produced page for a final product, but sometime is makes a nice jump start. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

Re: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Graeme
I think it's also worth acknowledging though that attacking other religions is pretty much a necessity for any religion. At their core, religions serve two purposes: 1) codify a set of rules for behaviour for the preservation of a culture; and 2) attempt to explain the big hows and whys of the univ

Re: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread William H Bowen
> My experience has > been that once someone has become so narrow minded as to accept that > this is the way things are, there is no amount of discussion that will > convince them otherwise. That was my first thought, too, but then I thought, why be silent? As long as *I'm* not spreading false

RE: Curious

2004-03-11 Thread Erika L Walker-Arnold
Just an word about DW ... (disclaimer: I love MM DW - I recommend it's use for anyone that does not know how to code REAL HTML or CSS by hand - though they should spend a week and learn that really simple markup language and have a better understanding of how a website is put together, but I digre

Re: Curious

2004-03-11 Thread Marwan Saidi
I use DWMX for styles and file synchronization. I sometimes code in it. I use Homesite+ for most everything else. I'd say 10% DW, 90% HS+. But when I am feeling really studly, I crack the HD and manipulate the platters with a stylus!  ~:P [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fas

Re: Curious

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Graeme
I use DW and HomeSite+ about 50/50. In DW I work 50/50 in design and code view. I'm primarily the UI guy, so wysiwyg is kinda helpful for that. Of course, it would be nice if it really was wysiwyg. -Kevin - Original Message - From: "Adkins, Randy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community"

Re: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Charlie Griefer
- Original Message - From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 9:08 AM Subject: Re: Comments on Catholic Church > Celibacy is breaking the commandment to be fruitful and multiply. You can > either be Celibate or you

Microsoft Behind SCO Lawsuits (from Slashdot)

2004-03-11 Thread Jim Campbell
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/mar2004/tc20040311_8915_tc119.htm I doubt anyone's /surprised/ per se, but it's interesting to see the machinations behind SCO's lawsuits, but official word of MS playing matchmaker between a hedge fund and SCO makes things very, very interesting.

Re: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Michael Dinowitz
>Faith in Christ Jesus is faith in His death and resurrection.  He is our grace to get things done.  Keeping the law is not faith.  No one is good, not >even one.  If we could be "good" by trying harder, Christ would not have had to come as our sacrifice.  No amount of Hail Mary's will make you >be

Re: cheap ups recommendation

2004-03-11 Thread Jacob
http://www.apcc.com/products/family/index.cfm?id=21&tab=models I have the ES-500 on one computer at home.  Works fine. At 07:45 AM 3/11/2004, you wrote: >I need to find a ups power back up for about $50. Any suggestions? > >Thanks > >Phillip B. > >-- >[ [Todays Threads] [This Message]

RE: Curious

2004-03-11 Thread cfhelp
FrontPage! No just kidding. I use Studio on Windows and BlueFish on Linux I will probably be checking out that Eclipse as soon as I get my Linux box back up and running. Rick -Original Message- From: Philip Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 9:56 AM

RE: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Lyons, Larry
Its not a matter of that person, but trying to inoculate the others from that particular meme. Left unchallenged that sort of meme does spread. I sort of had this out last week when some missionaries came by our place to proselytize (does that make them proselytutes?). After listening to their mess

RE: Curious

2004-03-11 Thread Philip Arnold
> From: Adkins, Randy > > How many people actually use Dreamweaver for a true WYSIWYG > editor? Or do you use it as you would CFStudio? I've used Studio for years - looked at DW a while back, but I prefer the functionality of Studio Maybe I'll upgrade to Homesite+ sometime soon [Todays Thread

RE: Curious

2004-03-11 Thread Haggerty, Mike
Suckers... Eclipse is the future of all programming. I use it for everything now, including actionscript. HAHAHAHAHA! www.eclipse.org M -Original Message- From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 10:44 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Curious pshw

REPUBLICANISM SHOWN TO BE GENETIC IN ORIGIN

2004-03-11 Thread Sandy Clark
The discovery that affiliation with the Republican Party is genetically determined was announced by scientists in the current issue of the journal NURTURE, causing uproar among traditionalists who believe it is a chosen lifestyle.  Reports of the gene coding for political conservatism, discovered a

Re: Curious

2004-03-11 Thread Matthew Small
You guys are all wimps. Real men have wires attached to their brains and send electrical current directly to the CPU. - Matt Small   - Original Message -   From: Lyons, Larry   To: CF-Community   Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 10:41 AM   Subject: RE: Curious   NotePad is for wimps. Edl

RE: Curious

2004-03-11 Thread Lyons, Larry
Cute. Right now I have HS+ and DWMX2004 open - I bounce back between the 2 - each has some features that the other doesn't. larry > -Original Message- > From: Adkins, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 10:43 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Curious > >

RE: Comments on Catholic Church

2004-03-11 Thread Haggerty, Mike
Larry - No doubt about Martin Luther. There is a perverted element to some of his writings, though I always thought his fixation on bowel movements was meant to underscore his disdain for the Church. Now, about this hate speech. You are right, it has been with us a long time, and has been fuelin

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