Re: It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread Sam Morris
--- Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mr. Bin Laden would like a new government in > the country that > contains the 2 most holy cities in Islam, Mecca and > Medina. Al Qaeda had a country they could hide in and now that’s gone. What on earth makes you think any country would let them form a n

Re: Bush administration officials are f***ing crazies

2004-09-14 Thread Sam Morris
Joe Wilson: Bush is a liar - nope Joe was the liar. Richard Clark: Last year he said he did much more than Clinton to prevent 9/11 but when his book came out Bush did less? His own words proved him a liar. Fahrenheit 9/11: Pure bullshit Kitty Kelly: Looks like she's discredited yet again. And n

Re: The Sam Factor! (Fox News can legally lie?)

2004-09-14 Thread Sam Morris
I hate to be the one that always points out the media bias but Danny boy is on the top of the list. His reputation was never good and I can't believe you've never noticed. Here's a summary, there's lot's more but I'm being polite. http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=95000520 Rather Clueless

Re: The Sam Factor! (Fox News can legally lie?)

2004-09-14 Thread Sam Morris
--- dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > why would it be a criminal investigation? If you are > thinking of > watergate/dirty tricks, remember that (as far as we > know) there is no > burglary in this picture. A senior House Republican has formally requested a congressional investigation int

Re: Fox News can legally lie?

2004-09-14 Thread Sam Morris
Well said. Something else we agree on :) -sm --- dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now that I have looked at the link, my question is > the following. The > story says: > > Fox executives and their attorneys wanted the > reporters to use > statements from Monsanto representatives that

Re: haplessly marching like lemmings into the sea.

2004-09-14 Thread Sam Morris
--- dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Here is an example of what I mean (story and link > below). I am looking > at the online version, but I would be willing to bet > money that this > story was buried on an inside page and that less > than ten percent of > the Post's readership will e

Re: (oh boy) is fox conservative

2004-09-14 Thread Sam Morris
--- dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > really. So you think they are important too? Perhaps > we have found the > elusive something we can agree on :) > > But so... not to be too partisan now, but if air > quality is a > mainstream issue then why does the Bush camp get all > irate when peo

Re: Vote!

2004-09-14 Thread Judith Dinowitz
Yumm. I second the motion. Judith - Original Message - > I vote for a chocolate chocolate chip muffin 6 inches wide and 12 > inches tall. . > > Phillip B. > > On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 07:00:12 -0500, Kevin Graeme wrote: > > Now! Go! Vote, vote, vote! [Todays Threads] [This Message] [

Fw: any java dev's online?

2004-09-14 Thread Lori
Anyone out there right now that uses java with cf? -Lori [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Curacao

2004-09-14 Thread Angel Stewart
Okies..I'm off to Curacao for a few days. So I'm switching off the list for a while until I get back. :-) You guys and gals have fun and be good! -Gel [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

RE: keeping perspective on us govt

2004-09-14 Thread Tangorre, Michael
> From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > In case you think we have it bad in the U.S. right now- Bush as Mr. Conservative, the Patriot Act as Big Brother, etc. check out this story: > http://money.cnn.com/2004/09/14/news/international/china_banks.reut/inde x.htm?cnn=yes > A bullet in the

RE: The Sam Factor! (Fox News can legally lie?)

2004-09-14 Thread Andy Ousterhout
It doesn't matter.  Clinton was smoking pot during the same period and the Dems loved him, so it really has nothing to do with what they really think. Problem for the Democrats is that since they aren't running FOR anything, but are running AGAINST Bush, they need to find things to attack so that

Re: FireFox 1.0 Preview Release

2004-09-14 Thread Matthew Fusfield
This works really well, they also added similar RSS support to Thunderbird. Basically, each entry in the RSS file shows up as a bookmark. I really like the new "find" feature; hit control-f or enable find as you type and it opens a cool toolbar at the bottom of the screen and does highlighting th

Re: Ivan Speaking at MAX?

2004-09-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Weather forecast from the NOAA: . Hurricane warning is in effect. Tonight. Partly cloudy with scattered showers and thunderstorms. Windy. Lows in the upper 70s. East winds 20 to 30 mph with gusts to around 45 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent. Wednesday. Mostly cloudy with numerous showers and thund

Re: Ivan Speaking at MAX?

2004-09-14 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
> I wonder what happens to MAX is New Orleans Floods this > week?  I > wonder how long it takes to clean up after a really angry > hurricane in > New Orleans? > From: > http://www.cnn.com/2004/WEATHER/09/14/hurricane.ivan/index > .html > "The city basically sits like a bowl and most of the city >

Re: It's for the oil (WOT)

2004-09-14 Thread Gruss Gott
> Should he have footnoted? Hi Dana, It would be impossible for me to footnote since I didn't include anybody's content.  I originally wrote them just to organize my own thoughts on things, and I wrote 2: one on fiscal policy (America the Bankrupt) and the second on foreign policy (Iraq: the rea

Re: Ivan Speaking at MAX?

2004-09-14 Thread Robert Munn
I am making light of a serious situation, but being serious, I hope Ivan roars east and spares New Orleans a direct hit. Hundreds of thousands of people could lose their homes and everything they own. Mother Nature sometimes reminds us all of how small and helpless we are in the face of her fury.

Re: The Sam Factor! (Fox News can legally lie?)

2004-09-14 Thread Robert Munn
>Right now I for one am saying hmm if Dan Rather is sure enough that he >is right to put his reputation behind it -- how long has he been in >the business? How many times has be been right? He has a hell of a >reputation. Frankly, I don't think he would lie. He might be mistaken >or lied to...I jus

Re: Ivan Speaking at MAX?

2004-09-14 Thread Robert Munn
I was wondering the same thing myself. Maybe we'll need boats to get from the hotel to the conference? Water taxi, anyone? >I wonder what happens to MAX is New Orleans Floods this week?  I >wonder how long it takes to clean up after a really angry hurricane in >New Orleans? > >From: >http://www.c

Ivan Speaking at MAX?

2004-09-14 Thread Cameron Childress
I wonder what happens to MAX is New Orleans Floods this week?  I wonder how long it takes to clean up after a really angry hurricane in New Orleans? From: http://www.cnn.com/2004/WEATHER/09/14/hurricane.ivan/index.html "The city basically sits like a bowl and most of the city is under sea level ..

Re: It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread dana tierney
agreed. I'd deplore either of those eventualities but if enacted by an elected government... I mean, you either believe in the system or you don't. Dana - Original Message - From: Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:54:17 -0400 Subject: Re: It's for the oil To: CF-

Re: It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread Robert Munn
>I think bin Laden is offended by Saudi ties to the US, which he sees >as morally corrupt. > >Of course the Saudis are interested in internal stabilty, as are most >regimes. They do face an internal challenge from the Muslim version of >the religious right. Absolutely, every government wants inter

keeping perspective on us govt

2004-09-14 Thread Robert Munn
In case you think we have it bad in the U.S. right now- Bush as Mr. Conservative, the Patriot Act as Big Brother, etc. check out this story: http://money.cnn.com/2004/09/14/news/international/china_banks.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes A bullet in the back of the head for bank fraud? Just another reason w

Re: It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread dana tierney
fair enough. Just checking due to the previous discovery that Sam doesn't believe any of my sources and I don't believe his :) But I'll sign up for this. This is, however what Gruss says he has. Should he have footnoted? Dana - Original Message - From: Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Multiple, non-related news sources compiled together with other information. I KNOW that just about every news agency has their own biases and agendas. They also feed off of each others news feeds like incestuous piranha. Trust one source and your screwed for sure. Trust none and you may get a true

Re: It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread dana tierney
I think bin Laden is offended by Saudi ties to the US, which he sees as morally corrupt. Of course the Saudis are interested in internal stabilty, as are most regimes. They do face an internal challenge from the Muslim version of the religious right. I don't claim to be an expert, but that's the

Re: It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread Robert Munn
>Because Mr. Bin Laden wants something we have - Saudi Arabia. Being a >Muslim, Mr. Bin Laden would like a new government in the country that >contains the 2 most holy cities in Islam, Mecca and Medina. I disagree. Bin Laden wants an Islamic empire stretching from Spain to Pakistan and down to Ind

Re: The Sam Factor! (Fox News can legally lie?)

2004-09-14 Thread dana tierney
that might be a way to go. Right now I for one am saying hmm if Dan Rather is sure enough that he is right to put his reputation behind it -- how long has he been in the business? How many times has be been right? He has a hell of a reputation. Frankly, I don't think he would lie. He might be mist

Re: The Sam Factor! (Fox News can legally lie?)

2004-09-14 Thread Robert Munn
I heard suggestions by more than one commentator yesterday that CBS should bring in third party experts under an agreement of confidentiality to examine the research in the case and render a judgement. One person (I think it was on MSNBC) pointed out that CNN had a story on the Tailwind scandal whe

Re: It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread dana tierney
I'm starting to wonder. FWIW I have seen an analysis like Gruss' before. I am thinking it was Woodward doing Cheney but I am not where I can look it up right now. Dana - Original Message - From: Howie Hamlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:31:05 -0400 Subject: Re: It's for t

Re: It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread Howie Hamlin
Fox Mulder?   - Original Message -   From: dana tierney   To: CF-Community   Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 5:28 PM   Subject: Re: It's for the oil   erm, whom do we believe?   Dana [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donation

Re: It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread dana tierney
erm, whom do we believe? Dana - Original Message - From: Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:15:25 -0400 Subject: Re: It's for the oil To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> And we believe the BBC why exactly? >No, seriously, all of the content is my original wr

Re: It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread Michael Dinowitz
And we believe the BBC why exactly? >No, seriously, all of the content is my original writing - the ideas, >however, are a summary of lots of sources I can send you if you'd >like.  and I did quote the BBC News are a source! [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe]

Re: It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread Gruss Gott
hey Gel - then how could I fool you into thinking it was mine :-P No, seriously, all of the content is my original writing - the ideas, however, are a summary of lots of sources I can send you if you'd like.  and I did quote the BBC News are a source! GG - Original Message - From: Angel

Re: The Sam Factor! (Fox News can legally lie?)

2004-09-14 Thread dana tierney
why would it be a criminal investigation? If you are thinking of watergate/dirty tricks, remember that (as far as we know) there is no burglary in this picture. Possibly if the allegation is untrue there might be a basis for libel but it would have to be proved untrue, and that is a civil matter a

Re: It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread Howie Hamlin
Maybe he works for FoxNews and is just making it up.   - Original Message -   From: Angel Stewart   To: CF-Community   Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:35 PM   Subject: RE: It's for the oil   Aren't you supposed to post your sources for these things when you copy   and paste?   :-)

RE: It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread Angel Stewart
Aren't you supposed to post your sources for these things when you copy and paste? :-) -Gel -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The US has maintained a military presence in the Middle East for 40 years primarily to guarantee a stable oil supply. The doesn't

RE: FireFox 1.0 Preview Release

2004-09-14 Thread Sandy Clark
Google Toolbar can be installed (just did it). >From the comments section: How to install on .10PR 0.9.0.28 does work with .10PR - download the .xpi file, open it with WinZip and extract the install.rdf file. Edit install.rdf and change the maxVersion to .10 and replace install.rdf in the .xpi

It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread Gruss Gott
The US has maintained a military presence in the Middle East for 40 years primarily to guarantee a stable oil supply. The doesn't mean to take the oil - just to make sure it's flowing and available for purchase; markets hate uncertainty. Consider what happened in the first 2 weeks of August 2004:

Weapons of Mass Destruction 411

2004-09-14 Thread Angel Stewart
http://guardian.911review.org/Pentagon/Bijlmer/bijlmer.htm -Gel [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Re: The Sam Factor! (Fox News can legally lie?)

2004-09-14 Thread Sam Morris
--- "S. Isaac Dealey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not convinced it's that simple. ... I'm not > convinced that any > given informant, even providing very reliable > information, would > consider providing it to them, knowing that they've > revealed a source > (any source) in the past. > I do

Re: The Sam Factor! (Fox News can legally lie?)

2004-09-14 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
> --- "S. Isaac Dealey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > That's the point! If someone gave them bogus >> > information and they stood behind it wouldn't it >> clear >> > them if they gave the source? Why protect someone >> that >> > duped them anyway? >> >> Because letting people know the source wi

Re: America The Bankrupt

2004-09-14 Thread Gruss Gott
Hi Brian, There's no conspiracy here - it's just foreign policy at work.  While this information may be new to you, I can't take credit for the content. It's a summary of information from articles such as those in the Economist and Foreign Policy, articles by economists/commentators such as Marti

Re: The Sam Factor! (Fox News can legally lie?)

2004-09-14 Thread Sam Morris
--- Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sam Morris wrote: > > Considering most major media is to the left we > need at > > least a little truth out there :) > > So if media is to the left of the center it is not > true, and if it is to the right of the center it > automatically is true

Re: Vacation

2004-09-14 Thread Howie Hamlin
Humorous humorous humorous damn damn damn   - Original Message -   From: Larry C. Lyons   To: CF-Community   Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 3:30 PM   Subject: Re: Vacation   I agree, still funny. I was reading some of the discourse on this list   (and a couple of others I'm on) and

Re: Vacation

2004-09-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I agree, still funny. I was reading some of the discourse on this list (and a couple of others I'm on) and was struck by the similarities. larry On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 15:25:09 -0400, Howie Hamlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe I'm nostalgic but I still find it humerous :) >   - Original Mes

Re: Bush administration officials are f***ing crazies

2004-09-14 Thread dana tierney
since Powell is supposed to be the one who described Cheney as "beyond hellbent" to invade Iraq, this rings all too true. On a side note, I saw on Cspan last night that Powell now believes that no stockpiles of WMD will ever be found in Iraq. Dana - Original Message - From: Howie Hamlin

Re: FireFox 1.0 Preview Release

2004-09-14 Thread Kevin Graeme
I haven't tried it yet, but here's a blog entry about it: "Livemarks Livemarks are a cross between aggregation channels and bookmarks - Live Bookmarks if you like. If a page has an RSS feed, a lightning icon appears in the fourth box on the status bar, and clicking on it lets you choose a Livemar

Re: Vacation

2004-09-14 Thread Howie Hamlin
Maybe I'm nostalgic but I still find it humerous :)   - Original Message -   From: Larry C. Lyons   To: CF-Community   Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 3:21 PM   Subject: Re: Vacation   The sad part of it is that when those SNL skits were taking place,   that was considered humorous. N

Re: Vacation

2004-09-14 Thread Jim Campbell
Sounds like somebody loves Hitler! - Jim Larry C. Lyons wrote: >The sad part of it is that when those SNL skits were taking place, >that was considered humorous. Now, its considered normal political >discourse. > >larry > > >On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:18:32 -0500, Jim Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: Vacation

2004-09-14 Thread dana tierney
hehe :) - Original Message - From: Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 15:21:33 -0400 Subject: Re: Vacation To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The sad part of it is that when those SNL skits were taking place, that was considered humorous. Now, its considered norma

Re: Vacation

2004-09-14 Thread Howie Hamlin
Huh?  What's all this I hear about Russian jewlery?  And, what about the youth in Asia?   - Original Message -   From: Jim Campbell   To: CF-Community   Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 3:18 PM   Subject: Re: Vacation   Howie, you ignorant slut.   - Jim [Todays Threads] [This Messa

Re: America The Bankrupt

2004-09-14 Thread dana tierney
they are counting on us to not pay attention. I agree. Factoid - buried in the story I just posted. Thirty billion a month for Iraq. Thirty billion a month. But in addition to that sinkhole is the bigger more long-term morass of Social Security, I agree. When the boomers start retiring the bu

Re: Vacation

2004-09-14 Thread Howie Hamlin
Duke Nukem - ha..."It'll be done when it's done" hell will freeze over when it's frozen over.   - Original Message -   From: Ben Doom   To: CF-Community   Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 3:15 PM   Subject: Re: Vacation   Oh, calm down.  They're just trying to build hype, like with Do

Re: Vacation

2004-09-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
The sad part of it is that when those SNL skits were taking place, that was considered humorous. Now, its considered normal political discourse. larry On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:18:32 -0500, Jim Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Howie, you ignorant slut. > > - Jim > > Howie Hamlin wrote: > > >

Re: Vacation

2004-09-14 Thread Jim Campbell
Howie, you ignorant slut. - Jim Howie Hamlin wrote: >Ha - you're either old enough to remember those old SNL skits (like me ) or you've seen them in reruns. > >Funny stuff... >  - Original Message - >  From: Jim Campbell >  To: CF-Community >  Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 2:09 PM

Re: America The Bankrupt

2004-09-14 Thread G
This stupid American woud like to thank you. Its very comforting to know that we average American idiots have extreme paranoid conspiracy theorists around to explain things to us   - Original Message -   From: Gruss Gott   To: CF-Community   Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 2:07 PM

Re: Vacation

2004-09-14 Thread Ben Doom
Oh, calm down.  They're just trying to build hype, like with Doom 3 and (more to the point) Duke Nukem For(n)ever. --Ben Tangorre, Michael wrote: > moved bakc again! WTF! >   > A! [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [Us

Re: The Sam Factor! (Fox News can legally lie?)

2004-09-14 Thread Howie Hamlin
I almost spit out my diet coke when I read that (no offense to Sam, I just thought it sounded funny).   - Original Message -   From: Jochem van Dieten   To: CF-Community   Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 2:52 PM   Subject: Re: The Sam Factor! (Fox News can legally lie?)   I believe it

Bush administration officials are f***ing crazies

2004-09-14 Thread Howie Hamlin
Don't take my word for it - take it from someone who knows firsthand... http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1302806,00.html [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Re: Vacation

2004-09-14 Thread Howie Hamlin
Ha - you're either old enough to remember those old SNL skits (like me ) or you've seen them in reruns. Funny stuff...   - Original Message -   From: Jim Campbell   To: CF-Community   Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 2:09 PM   Subject: Re: Vacation   I've heard of that... Isn't that s

Re: America The Bankrupt

2004-09-14 Thread Gruss Gott
- Original Message - From: Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 23:36:36 -0400 Subject: Re: America The Bankrupt To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > As for what we are fighting for in Iraq- we are fighting for opportunity. No - we are fighting for to see if a experime

Re: The Sam Factor! (Fox News can legally lie?)

2004-09-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Funny I always thought it would be the extreme left who would completely follow the dictates of Orwell's NewSpeak. Looks like its devotees are coming from the opposite direction. larry On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:52:50 -0400, Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sam Morris wrote: > > Conside

Re: news in haiku

2004-09-14 Thread dana tierney
is this a test? :) these are from the original link :) Dana - Original Message - From: Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:17:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: news in haiku To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bush flees the soft bigotry of uncontrollable situations W wim

Re: (oh boy) is fox conservative

2004-09-14 Thread dana tierney
really. So you think they are important too? Perhaps we have found the elusive something we can agree on :) But so... not to be too partisan now, but if air quality is a mainstream issue then why does the Bush camp get all irate when people question the postponement of mercury cleanup efforts? And

RE: haplessly marching like lemmings into the sea.

2004-09-14 Thread Sandy Clark
I saw that this morning, but unfortunately have been in hell today and unable to deal with anyone's hell other than my own. Sandy Clark http://www.shayna.com CF Pretty Accessible at http://www.shayna.com/blog Now offering 4 days Hands on CSS training October 11-14th. Rockville, MD. For more info

Re: The Sam Factor! (Fox News can legally lie?)

2004-09-14 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Sam Morris wrote: > Considering most major media is to the left we need at > least a little truth out there :) So if media is to the left of the center it is not true, and if it is to the right of the center it automatically is true? Yet Fox News is by your own admission to the right and, as has b

haplessly marching like lemmings into the sea.

2004-09-14 Thread dana tierney
Here is an example of what I mean (story and link below). I am looking at the online version, but I would be willing to bet money that this story was buried on an inside page and that less than ten percent of the Post's readership will even notice it. Bush's campaign promises will cost three tril

Re: (oh boy) is fox conservative

2004-09-14 Thread Sam Morris
--- dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I want to know why 75% of > the drugs prescribed for children have not been > tested on children, > and why it is legal to market an antidepressant that > has been > demonstrated to be ineffective. That's what I am mad > about. I'd really > like to be

Re: FireFox 1.0 Preview Release

2004-09-14 Thread Raymond Camden
So what exactly does that mean - "bookmarks can now be live from an RSS feed"? Does it mean a bookmark folder can by dynamic and based on an RSS feed? On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 13:32:18 -0500, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sweeet! It looks like bookmarks can now be live from an RSS feed! >

Re: FireFox 1.0 Preview Release

2004-09-14 Thread Raymond Camden
Just an update on extensions, my Web Developer and Tabbrowser extensions were updated ok. Googlebar has NOT been updated yet. -r On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 13:28:27 -0500, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FireFox has hit 1.0PR. > > http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/0.10.html >

Re: FireFox 1.0 Preview Release

2004-09-14 Thread Kevin Graeme
Sweeet! It looks like bookmarks can now be live from an RSS feed! -Kevin [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

FireFox 1.0 Preview Release

2004-09-14 Thread Kevin Graeme
FireFox has hit 1.0PR. http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/0.10.html Breakdown of what's changed: http://www.squarefree.com/burningedge/bigger-picture.html#newin1.0pr1 Be aware that extensions that haven't been updated for 1.0 will not work. So for people who like their extensions (

Re: Vacation

2004-09-14 Thread Jim Campbell
I've heard of that... Isn't that some movie where Gerald Ford takes his family to Bullwinkle Land in a station wagon? - Jim Howie Hamlin wrote: >Vacation, what's that? >  - Original Message - >  From: Tangorre, Michael >  To: CF-Community >  Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 2:00 PM

Re: Vacation

2004-09-14 Thread Won Lee
At 14:06 9/14/2004 -0400, you wrote: >Vacation, what's that? I think I overheard some guys from marketing talk about it once.  But I just remembered that every-other word out of their mouths are lies and promptly ignored it. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe

Re: house of bush, house of saud

2004-09-14 Thread dana tierney
Tim! Was just wondering how you were doing :) - Original Message - From: Timothy Heald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:04:27 -0400 Subject: Re: house of bush, house of saud To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> God I wish I had more time for this :) Regan was a ghod among m

Re: Vacation

2004-09-14 Thread Howie Hamlin
Vacation, what's that?   - Original Message -   From: Tangorre, Michael   To: CF-Community   Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 2:00 PM   Subject: Vacation   moved bakc again! WTF!   A! [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsu

Re: (oh boy) is fox conservative

2004-09-14 Thread dana tierney
"Liberal media" is a phrase that dates back to the Nixon administration and is a product of overly narrow thinking. When the media went after Clinton for Monica, was it because they were liberal? Granted that you may not think they did so as much as they should have, but they did, and they did it b

Vacation

2004-09-14 Thread Tangorre, Michael
moved bakc again! WTF! A! [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Re: The Sam Factor! (Fox News can legally lie?)

2004-09-14 Thread dana tierney
Sam, they don't seem to think the source pulled a fast one. But supposing he or she did... it would be an interesting problem in journalistic ethics if the source had been promised anonymity. I think they would probably stand by the anonymity and do a story about how/why the information was accepte

Re: Vote!

2004-09-14 Thread dana tierney
just heard on the news today, you can vote here (in the national electon) as early as Oct 5th if you use an absentee ballot. But I was wondering... these are being suggested as an alternate to Diebold voting, since they leave a paper trail supposedly... but couldn't you just lose a few ballots? st

RE: Fox News can legally lie?

2004-09-14 Thread Nick McClure
Nice one. Ah the glory days of the yellow press. Things were much simpler back then.   _   From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 11:08 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Fox News can legally lie? Remember the Maine! -Kevin On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:11:

RE: CompUSA and the Hard Sell

2004-09-14 Thread Nick McClure
I get a much better deal at CompUSA than anywhere else. But like I said, I have a business account. I prefer to support the people in town, even if CompUSA is a chain, they still provide jobs, and the allow me to actually look at most things before I buy. I like the internet, and ordering online

Re: Vote!

2004-09-14 Thread Deanna Schneider
That's how it's done in Wisconsin, too. You can have your choices - as long as they all belong to the same party. It's sort of annoying, as I'd be more apt to vote for some of the fringe  folk. Or hell, in the races with only one Dem and several Reps, I'd vote for the most freakish Republican candi

Re: The Sam Factor! (Fox News can legally lie?)

2004-09-14 Thread Sam Morris
--- "S. Isaac Dealey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's the point! If someone gave them bogus > > information and they stood behind it wouldn't it > clear > > them if they gave the source? Why protect someone > that > > duped them anyway? > > Because letting people know the source will give h

Re: (oh boy) is fox conservative

2004-09-14 Thread Sam Morris
--- dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yu had to go back to february to find something that > supported this ? :) Since this was a thread on an eight year old case seven months isn't so long ago:) > http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/TheNote/TheNote_Feb1004.html This is too funn

Re: news in haiku

2004-09-14 Thread Sam Morris
Bush flees the soft bigotry of uncontrollable situations W wimps out: He won't debate in front of "the undecided"? Bush just nabbed more pawns... Is Osama's capture the October Surprise? George attempts nuance... Steady leadership? Yesterday, war can't be won, but today, it can? Maybe the popp

Re: house of bush, house of saud

2004-09-14 Thread Timothy Heald
God I wish I had more time for this :) Regan was a ghod among men :) [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Re: CompUSA and the Hard Sell

2004-09-14 Thread Brian Meloche
BestBuy doesn't work on commission, but they'll sure still try to sell you the extended warranties. On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:23:04 -0400, Tangorre, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I make it real simple... I don't shop at CompUSA or BestBuy anymore, > period. I can ALWAYS find the same, if not b

Re: Al-Zawahiri: U.S. faltering

2004-09-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Only 500+, I guess that includes the US forces over there. now lets add in the 5,000 or so NATO forces as well. Regardless, good to hear you're still around. Be careful remember. larry On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:52:00 -0400, Timothy Heald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > tee hee > > I know 500 + guys

Re: Al-Zawahiri: U.S. faltering

2004-09-14 Thread Timothy Heald
tee hee I know 500 + guys who would love to have a conversation with this dude :) [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

RE: CompUSA and the Hard Sell

2004-09-14 Thread Tangorre, Michael
I make it real simple... I don't shop at CompUSA or BestBuy anymore, period. I can ALWAYS find the same, if not better deals on whatever they have. Newegg.com is a gem of a site as well as Amazon. Unless you just have to have the item right now, why not wait and save some $$$. Mike [Todays Thre

RE: CompUSA and the Hard Sell

2004-09-14 Thread Nick McClure
I've never had them try to give me the hard sell, they ask, I say no thank you, and we all move on. Of course I buy on my business account from the same person each time, he knows I'm not going to get the warrantee, so he doesn't even ask anymore.   _   From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL P

Re: Vote!

2004-09-14 Thread William Bowen
I'm in Washington and I have voted (absentee ballot -- we've got electronic ballots here at the polls, don't trust them without a paper trail). They changed the ballots to a "Vote the Party" style ballot...So now we have a choice, vote All Rebublican, All Democrat, or All Libertarian and then you

Re: Fox News can legally lie?

2004-09-14 Thread Kevin Graeme
Remember the Maine! -Kevin On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:11:32 -0400, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The reason she wasn't a whistleblower was because there has to be a law > broken before you can blow a whistle. > > "The court implied there was no restriction against distorting the truth. >

RE: Fox News can legally lie?

2004-09-14 Thread Nick McClure
The reason she wasn't a whistleblower was because there has to be a law broken before you can blow a whistle. "The court implied there was no restriction against distorting the truth. Technically, there was no violation of the news distortion because the FCC's policy of news distortion does not ha

Re: Vote!

2004-09-14 Thread Jim Campbell
Kevin, don't you know reading the USA PATRIOT Act means you hate America?  We can't have Senators that hate America.  Wait... unless... *you* hate America too... - Jim Kevin Graeme wrote: >These aren't Presidential Primaries. They're for Senate and local >races. Here in WI, we actually have se

Re: Vote!

2004-09-14 Thread Kevin Graeme
These aren't Presidential Primaries. They're for Senate and local races. Here in WI, we actually have several people running agains Russ Feingold on the platform that he had the gall to actually read the USA PATRIOT Act. -Kevin On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:00:45 -0500, Jim Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: CompUSA and the Hard Sell

2004-09-14 Thread G
I guess i'm the opposite...i enjoy places where the sales people are working on a commission basis. I know that i'm holding all the cards, and can usually get some free stuff thrown in just for making the purchase. When they start on the "extended warranty" stuff, I tell them that i absolutely MU

Re: Vote!

2004-09-14 Thread Jim Campbell
Voted in the Illinois Primaries several months ago... how is Dean doing anyway? - Jim Kevin Graeme wrote: >There are primaries in DC, Mass, MN, New Hampshire, New York, Rhode >Island, Vermont, Wisconsin, and Washington. > >VoteVoteVoteVoteVoteVoteVote! > >/me scoots along floor spinning in

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