RE: Any Top Gear Fans Here?

2007-10-30 Thread Robert Rawlins - Think Blue
God I love this man, Jeremy Clarkson's sense of humour has me cracked up every time, he a genius. I think I remember him describing owning a dodge viper as: It's as stupid and as wonderful as owning a pet elephant. Hilarious!

Re: AYFKM?

2007-10-30 Thread Chesty Puller
Yeah, I didn't do that yet. I'm still trying to figure out how somebody can be so sure of a theory until the data doesn't support his personal beliefs. I'd started to write a couple of times that ID supports Larry's position perfectly, but that's a different discussion and I have no interest

Re: AYFKM?

2007-10-30 Thread Gruss Gott
Chesty wrote: I'm not looking to vilify any race out there... just suggesting the eminently logical. There *are* known differences between races. Which is why I find the whole argument against *the possibility* such an affront to logic: If there weren't any differences, there wouldn't be

Re: AYFKM?

2007-10-30 Thread Larry Lyons
No what I am saying is that that sort of experiment is illegal and unethical. It has nothing to do with PC or whatever, it has everything to do with seriously fucking up the lives of people for a theory that the existant data has shown is incorrect. First you are tearing infants away from their

WOW! Best Buy Sucks!

2007-10-30 Thread Gruss Gott
Best Buy Sells You A Box Of Bathroom Tiles Instead Of Hard Drive, Won't Issue Refund Quote Hey Guys, I got on my computer and bought a Western Digital 1TB hard drive from BestBuy.com and arranged for a store pickup so I could speed up my normal Saturday errands. I got the confirmation sheet and

Re: AYFKM?

2007-10-30 Thread Chesty Puller
So the mere inquiry into the possibility is unethical.Illegal is a stretch, unless you can point at the actual law for me. You're way off base with your notions. This is PC because your polticial beliefs are interfering with the hard science. This isn't experimenting on live humans where

RE: WOW! Best Buy Sucks!

2007-10-30 Thread Robert Rawlins - Think Blue
I hope to get the local news media involved seeing how it's getting close to the holiday shopping season and they love to get horror stories like this out on the air. I'd be going down that route as well, considering that it seems their going to support their managers decision, you might just

Re: Going to the Big House

2007-10-30 Thread Rick Root
Well, the game Saturday was pretty awesome. Always fun in the big house... started out a little scary with Minnesota taking a 10-3 led on a fumble returned for a touchdown, but that was the only time the Gophers saw the end zone, and Michigan won 34-10. It was cold, wet, and windy. Though it

Re: AYFKM?

2007-10-30 Thread Gruss Gott
Larry wrote: No what I am saying is that that sort of experiment is illegal and unethical. Wouldn't it be fairly easy to come up, say, an international 4 part intelligence test: 1.) Quantitative 2.) Arts 3.) Emotional 4.) verbal/reading The whole thing could use symbols rather than language

Re: AYFKM?

2007-10-30 Thread Dana
I don't think it can be done. On Oct 29, 2007 8:58 AM, Chesty Puller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you're saying that if definitions were applied to these metrics, you would be fine with it? I don't buy it. - Original Message - From: Dana [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community

Re: AYFKM?

2007-10-30 Thread Dana
the hell we do. This thread is NSFW :0 On Oct 29, 2007 9:28 AM, Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chesty wrote: So you're saying that if definitions were applied to these metrics, you would be fine with it? I don't buy it. There are 2 issues: 1.) How do we best define human

Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-30 Thread Dana
I'm not sour. You are saying untrue things is all. On Oct 29, 2007 11:29 AM, Robert Munn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what are you so sour about? On 10/25/07, Dana wrote: actually -- a lot of them did not. Some of the early news stories were talking about the fire-fighting beng hampered by

Re: WOW! Best Buy Sucks!

2007-10-30 Thread Rick Root
On 10/30/07, Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've told American Express to stop payment That's all that's required. Best Buy will have to sue him to get their $300. American Express doesn't stand for its customers getting ripped off. Personally, though, I have a hard time believing this

RE: WOW! Best Buy Sucks!

2007-10-30 Thread Peterson, Chris
Yea, it does come across as sounding like a scam Chris Peterson Gainey IT Adobe Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:50 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: WOW! Best Buy Sucks! On 10/30/07,

Re: WOW! Best Buy Sucks!

2007-10-30 Thread Crow T. Robot
I with Rick here. Seems VERY fishy. On 10/30/07, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/30/07, Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've told American Express to stop payment That's all that's required. Best Buy will have to sue him to get their $300. American Express doesn't stand

RE: WOW! Best Buy Sucks!

2007-10-30 Thread Adkins, Randy
I tend to agree with you. I have order from Best Buy many times and never had an issue. One time I even thought my PSP was broken (under warranty), took it back to Best Buy and they replaced it. Come to find out I was using the wrong charger to re-charge it. BB never gave me any problems or

Re: WOW! Best Buy Sucks!

2007-10-30 Thread Vivec
Ceramic tiles would be significantly heavier than a hard disk should be. It just doesn't sound like a very plausible story. ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now

do laptop batteries have a memory?

2007-10-30 Thread Greg Morphis
I know that cell phones, at least a few years ago, had a memory. You had to charge them up all the way, and then drain them entirely at least twice to set it's memory. Anyways I ordered a laptop and it's due in any day now.. Do they have the memory issue like cell phones do/did? Thanks

Re: WOW! Best Buy Sucks!

2007-10-30 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
+1 On Oct 30, 2007, at 9:55 AM, Crow T. Robot wrote: I with Rick here. Seems VERY fishy. On 10/30/07, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/30/07, Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've told American Express to stop payment That's all that's required. Best Buy will have to sue

Re: WOW! Best Buy Sucks!

2007-10-30 Thread Crow T. Robot
if you look at the picture, there were just enough tiles to make it about the same weight as a HD. On 10/30/07, Vivec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ceramic tiles would be significantly heavier than a hard disk should be. It just doesn't sound like a very plausible story.

Re: WOW! Best Buy Sucks!

2007-10-30 Thread Gruss Gott
Gel wrote: Ceramic tiles would be significantly heavier than a hard disk should be. It just doesn't sound like a very plausible story. First I would wonder if that store has any tiles similar. Could be that an employee pulled the drive and then put some tiles in there. The weight doesn't

RE: WOW! Best Buy Sucks!

2007-10-30 Thread Adam Churvis
Fill out a police report, and get a case number and a copy of the report. Once you have a case number, fill out an affidavit with every detail of the event and have it notarized at your bank, then fax it to both your credit card company, the merchant, and the manufacturer. Explain in your cover

RE: WOW! Best Buy Sucks!

2007-10-30 Thread Robert Rawlins - Think Blue
But, the customer is always right! -Original Message- From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 October 2007 15:10 To: CF-Community Subject: Re: WOW! Best Buy Sucks! +1 On Oct 30, 2007, at 9:55 AM, Crow T. Robot wrote: I with Rick here. Seems VERY fishy. On

Re: do laptop batteries have a memory?

2007-10-30 Thread William Bowen
Anyways I ordered a laptop and it's due in any day now.. Do they have the memory issue like cell phones do/did? They used to, but not so much anymore. at least in my experience. YMMV, read your manual and see what the mfg recommends... :-) -- will If my life weren't funny, it would just

Re: WOW! Best Buy Sucks!

2007-10-30 Thread Crow T. Robot
Heh. Back when I was a young wiseass and was working in the retail industry, I had an irate woman yell The customer is always right! at me. I responded with Except when the customer is wrong... in a deadpan kinda way. I was sent home for the day. :) I still hold my argument that she was

RE: WOW! Best Buy Sucks!

2007-10-30 Thread Robert Rawlins - Think Blue
Lol, we've all been there, I used to work in an electronics retailer over here part time when I was a teen, got this kind of thing all the time, balls if I'm going to sit there and take being shouted at by an irate customer for £6 an hour. Rob -Original Message- From: Crow T. Robot

Re: WOW! Best Buy Sucks!

2007-10-30 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
But, the customer is always right! No, the customer is never wrong. ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now

Re: do laptop batteries have a memory?

2007-10-30 Thread Robert Munn
Like will said, RTM. Lithium-ion tends to do better than older technologies, but over time batteries still tend to wear out. On 10/30/07, Greg Morphis wrote: Anyways I ordered a laptop and it's due in any day now.. Do they have the memory issue like cell phones do/did?

Re: WOW! Best Buy Sucks!

2007-10-30 Thread Robert Munn
I don't know. Internal theft is a HUGE problem for retailers, doubly so for electronics retailers like BestBuy. They keep all the really expensive stuff, like laptops, memory, and CPUs, locked in storage- to protect it from employees as much as from customers. Hard disks are expensive enough for

Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-30 Thread Robert Munn
Some people would not evacuate and the firefighters did the right thing and saved those people before saving property. I never said otherwise. The vast majority of people left when asked. Half a million people evacuated, there was very little criminal activity in the wake of the fires, and in

Re: AYFKM?

2007-10-30 Thread Larry Lyons
I guess I need to explain it in simple terms, for the second time the experiment is illegal as in against the law. It is unethical, as per the APA and other professional organizations ethics committees. It is illegal in terms of child abuse. You should also read carefully I said use triplets

Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-30 Thread Dana
I am just appreciating the irony of your position :) Still think New Orleans should not be rebuilt? On 10/30/07, Robert Munn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some people would not evacuate and the firefighters did the right thing and saved those people before saving property. I never said otherwise.

Re: AYFKM?

2007-10-30 Thread Larry Lyons
Larry wrote: No what I am saying is that that sort of experiment is illegal and unethical. Wouldn't it be fairly easy to come up, say, an international 4 part intelligence test: 1.) Quantitative 2.) Arts 3.) Emotional 4.) verbal/reading The whole thing could use symbols rather than language

Sun Belt Work Ethic

2007-10-30 Thread Gruss Gott
Someone wrote a book that I'm too lazy to look up, but basically it pointed out that your probability of poverty was directly proportional to your distance from the equator. His reasoning was that people from cold climates had to work harder and plan more to get food due to winters whereas

Re: the dichotomy of disasters

2007-10-30 Thread Robert Munn
you just can't let it go, can you? -- --- Robert Munn www.emergentpath.com ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now

Re: Sun Belt Work Ethic

2007-10-30 Thread Robert Munn
it sounds like an over-simplification. On 10/30/07, Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone wrote a book that I'm too lazy to look up, but basically it pointed out that your probability of poverty was directly proportional to your distance from the equator. His reasoning was that people

Re: AYFKM?

2007-10-30 Thread Chesty Puller
Why is this always a personal attack? Just provide some resources making your point and I'll concede. - Matt - Original Message - From: Larry Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community cf-community@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 3:53 PM Subject: Re: AYFKM? I guess

Re: Sun Belt Work Ethic

2007-10-30 Thread William Bowen
Any thoughts of whether that's true or is it bogus science? Sounds suspiciously like anecdotal clap-trap of the brown-people are all too lazy for their own good variety. Bullshit alarm again. On 10/30/07, Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone wrote a book that I'm too lazy to look up,

Re: Sun Belt Work Ethic

2007-10-30 Thread Gruss Gott
WillBo wrote: Bullshit alarm again. Well, should be pretty simple to disprove in possibly 2 ways: 1.) Is it true that a human's probability of living in poverty is directly proportional to their distance from the equator? 2.) Is that coincidence a reasonable observation?

Re: Sun Belt Work Ethic

2007-10-30 Thread Vivec
The presumption is so ludicrous as to not be worth the effort. It would be complimentary to you if your absurd and disingenuous statements could be thought to come from an utter ignorance of history. For at the worst , coupled with your inane rantings in the previous thread, it can be seen as

Re: Sun Belt Work Ethic

2007-10-30 Thread Gruss Gott
Vivec wrote: The presumption is so ludicrous as to not be worth the effort. Why? Seems no more ludicrous than saying that, say, the 19th century Indians are better buffalo hunters than 19th century Norwegians. Why is it that any suggestion of differentiation amongst the world's is

Re: Sun Belt Work Ethic

2007-10-30 Thread Robert Munn
Like Gel said, it's a goofy-ass argument. On 10/30/07, Gruss wrote: Vivec wrote: The presumption is so ludicrous as to not be worth the effort. Why? Seems no more ludicrous than saying that, say, the 19th century Indians are better buffalo hunters than 19th century Norwegians.

Re: Google adword abuse

2007-10-30 Thread Tony
seems plausible... hmmm... On 10/30/07, Dave l [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a client call today and ask a question about google adwords. Long story short. It appears that someone (he thinks a competitor) is going in and clicking on his adwords ads every morning until his limit runs

Re: Sun Belt Work Ethic

2007-10-30 Thread Gruss Gott
So let me try this one on you - tell me what you think: What if this 19th century wealth effect was happening today except in the 1st World countries? Remember the concept: due to abundance of basic needs items (food) there is less incentive to develop advanced methods of production (which is

Google adword abuse

2007-10-30 Thread Dave l
I had a client call today and ask a question about google adwords. Long story short. It appears that someone (he thinks a competitor) is going in and clicking on his adwords ads every morning until his limit runs out. I have noticed 1 ip that is doing this so it seems a legit complaint. I

Re: Sun Belt Work Ethic

2007-10-30 Thread Vivec
Your lack of knowledge of world affairs and economy is astounding. What you continue to post is such sophistry as to be ill fitting of a decent response. On 10/30/07, Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So let me try this one on you - tell me what you think: What if this 19th century wealth

Re: Sun Belt Work Ethic

2007-10-30 Thread Tony
interesting. On 10/30/07, Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So let me try this one on you - tell me what you think: What if this 19th century wealth effect was happening today except in the 1st World countries? Remember the concept: due to abundance of basic needs items (food) there is

[politics:debate] biden is strong

2007-10-30 Thread Tony
impressed with biden. very impressed. tony -- 'Never have anything in your life that you can't walk out on in thirty seconds flat, if you spot the heat coming around the corner' robert deniro - heat (1995) ~| ColdFusion is

RE: Sun Belt Work Ethic

2007-10-30 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 8:31 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Sun Belt Work Ethic The presumption is so ludicrous as to not be worth the effort. Oh - you're just mad because you live on the equator. And are poor.

Re: [politics:debate] biden is strong

2007-10-30 Thread William Bowen
impressed with biden. very impressed. why? -- will If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable. - Carrie Fisher ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and

Re: [politics:debate] biden is strong

2007-10-30 Thread Tony
his demeanor. his answers. his candor. his likability. his view on foreign policy and repairing relations. his natural ability to talk and sound intelligent. other than that, i dont give a flying hootie patoootie they are all fucked the fuck up. lobbyists rule the place and it doesnt matter what

RE: Google adword abuse

2007-10-30 Thread Scott Stewart
Check the adwords site, I *think* there's a way to block IP's -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (703) 220-2835 http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks Boycott Sys-Con

Re: Sun Belt Work Ethic

2007-10-30 Thread Simon Horwith
Though not popular I have got to admit that some of what you say is actually fairly interesting to think about, Gus. Of course, I also find watching and reading speeches given by Hitler very interesting and educational, but I'm no fan of his. Not that I'm comparing you to Hitler, of course. To

Re: [politics:debate] biden is strong

2007-10-30 Thread Gruss Gott
Weegs wrote: his demeanor. his answers. his candor. his likability. his view on foreign policy and repairing relations. his natural ability to talk and sound intelligent. +1000. Biden is the most competent candidate out there right now for the challenges the next President will face.

Re: do laptop batteries have a memory?

2007-10-30 Thread Dave l
the batteries of today prefer to catch fire ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive:

Re: Sun Belt Work Ethic

2007-10-30 Thread Gruss Gott
Simon wrote: When you didn't stay quiet after your people near the equator are more likely to be poor comment (which is absurd in and of itself) Just to be clear, that's not my comment, it's an economics theory by an author whose book I read a few years ago. The reason I brought it up was

Re: Sun Belt Work Ethic

2007-10-30 Thread Gruss Gott
Simon wrote: 3rd World workers, seeing the relative wealth they lack and the path to get it (free trade!), get hungry and try to grab the brass ring? I'm sorry Gruss - but that really is just plain dumb. When you're from the third world, pretty much everything else IS a brass ring... and

Re: Google adword abuse

2007-10-30 Thread Dave l
scott i had read something about it having that capability (i haven't ever used it), after I posted but will pass it along.. thanks ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse

Re: Sun Belt Work Ethic

2007-10-30 Thread Robert Munn
On 10/30/07, Gruss wrote: Huh. Well maybe it is dumb, but it seems to me that wealth is created and gained by those most hungry for it - and that's ALWAYS at the expense of others. Economics, contrary to what Marx and other communist economic thinkers believed, is not a zero sum game. As