Damn Reorg!

I'm on vacation... which, history has shown, means that all hell will break loose. This time I get a call yesterday saying "you don't have to come in but you might want to come in..." So I come in. Turns out the new CIO has decided to completely reorg our entire organization's IT department:

RE: Arrgghhhh! Adobe should loosen up the developer edition a bit.

> -Original Message- > From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 10:21 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Arrgg! Adobe should loosen up the developer edition a > bit. > > I'm pretty certain that you can set up very, very similar environments >

Re: Whats good on the internet

There were so many great characters on The Wire, especially Bubbles and Omar, and Frank Sobotka from season 2. I wasn't thrilled with the outcome of some of the story lines in the finale, but it was excellent nonetheless. If every person responsible for making drug policy watched all five seasons

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

> > I just can't imagine that circumcision is more respected than condoms, > but oh well, stranger things have happened. Culture, not religion is the issue here. Are you a real man if you use a condom? A real man can be circumcised. ~~~

Re: Whats good on the internet

Not sure about The Wire I watched on HBO on Demand. http://www.hbo.com/thewire/ Torchwood is a BBC show. Should be available where BBC shows are streaming. On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:13 AM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it available streaming some place? > > > > Maureen wrote: > > IM

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

On Apr 1, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > But your "hack on an infant" statement tells me that no argument I > ever make > will change any part of your opinion. It's too extreme. > You are right. There is really nothing you could say that would make me believe that removing a pie

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

On Apr 1, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Michael Dinowitz wrote: >> and you'll never know if it can be better will youthat choice >> was made >> for you. > > Which avoids my comment of what I have is more than enough. Bottom > line is > that we're both arguing from a point of no knowledge unless one of

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

> > This is really a cheap shot that you've done several times. Suffice it to > say that if the clitoris is the only thing you know to stimulate, then > it's > not me who's lacking knowledge. Yes it was cheap and I was about to apologize. I should have said it a bit differently but the point rema

Re: What do you think was the best 4/1 effort this year?

Yep. They rickrolled 6 million views today. Their own customers. That is as good as it gets. On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 11:55 PM, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's just evil. > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yep. still active. every

Re: What do you think was the best 4/1 effort this year?

That's just evil. On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yep. still active. every video off their home page. > > > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > i missed that one...they Rick Rolled themselves? > > > > On T

Re: What do you think was the best 4/1 effort this year?

Yep. still active. every video off their home page. On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i missed that one...they Rick Rolled themselves? > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 10:44 PM, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > For me, it was the youtube.com Ric

Re: What do you think was the best 4/1 effort this year?

i missed that one...they Rick Rolled themselves? On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 10:44 PM, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For me, it was the youtube.com Rick Astley-Never Gonna Give You Up video > coming up instead of any link off their home page. > > any other good ones? > > > ~

What do you think was the best 4/1 effort this year?

For me, it was the youtube.com Rick Astley-Never Gonna Give You Up video coming up instead of any link off their home page. any other good ones? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to d

Re: finally, something tailored for this group

As your co-worker, I can't really answer that question for fear that I'll be called in to visit HR tomorrow. 70's pron rules tho. :) On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Skorp Croze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can't decide between: > > You are into some sick "hobbies". > or: > Are you sure it wa

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Michael Dinowitz < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Again, if you don't know how it impairs a woman you've never tried to > please > one and definitely are not one. You try masturbating

Re: finally, something tailored for this group

I can't decide between: You are into some sick "hobbies". or: Are you sure it was a bear, and not a closeup from bad 70s pron? LOL On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have no idea what you're talking about. All the sites I visit have > unicorns and rai

Re: finally, something tailored for this group

Threatdown! On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have no idea what you're talking about. All the sites I visit have > unicorns and rainbows and snappy-tailed puppy dogs as their main content. > > Once I mis-clicked on a link that showed a big black bear.

Re: finally, something tailored for this group

I have no idea what you're talking about. All the sites I visit have unicorns and rainbows and snappy-tailed puppy dogs as their main content. Once I mis-clicked on a link that showed a big black bear. Scary! On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > uhhh, couldnt we al

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > why does it impair the female? She can still have children. She can > still > have sex. Again, if you don't know how it impairs a woman you've never tried to please one and definitely are not one. You try masturbati

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

> > Circumcision - "small piece of skin removed". > FGC - can be as little as removal of the hood and tip of the clitoris. Um, if you don't see a distinct difference between these two things than you've never pleased a woman before. ~~~

Bad Voodoo's War

Just got done watching Bad Voodoo's War on frontline - awesome: - Frontline goes to war with a platoon of national guard soldiers to see war through their eyes, filmed with their own video cameras. Through their daily experiences, acting platoon leader Sgt. 1st Class Toby

Re: Stuff White People Like just got whiter

Yep. Gotta love them April 1st deals. LOL Erika L. Walker wrote: > Now that's a pretty cool Tuesday-type April-y thingie on the firstest of the > monthest... > > >>> : -Original Message- >>> : From: Bruce Sorge >>> : >>> : So, the site Stuff White People Like was bought by Target rece

Re: Stuff White People Like just got whiter

so, like, totally, like. omg On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now that's a pretty cool Tuesday-type April-y thingie on the firstest of the > monthest... > > >>: -Original Message- > >>: From: Bruce Sorge > >>: > >>: So, the site Stuff Whit

Re: Arrgghhhh! Adobe should loosen up the developer edition a bit.

I'm pretty certain that you can set up very, very similar environments with asp and asp.net, but that's not my point. My point was why limit access to the developer edition to two ip address. Wouldn't 10 or even 20 be sufficient. Is Adobe afraid that someone might run a cf site on the developer

RE: Stuff White People Like just got whiter

Now that's a pretty cool Tuesday-type April-y thingie on the firstest of the monthest... >>: -Original Message- >>: From: Bruce Sorge >>: >>: So, the site Stuff White People Like was bought by Target recently. See >>: it here: >>: >>: http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.wordpress.com/ ~~

Re: Arrgghhhh! Adobe should loosen up the developer edition a bit.

No, I was pointing out that you were complaining that an enterprise application server that costs lots of money doesn't follow the same business rules as open source software, and that you seem surprised by that fact. Is there any for-pay software on earth that follows the same business rules as a

Re: Arrgghhhh! Adobe should loosen up the developer edition a bit.

as far as I know, it's not open sourced yet? Am I missing something? On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So you are saying that cf isn't open source? > > Uh, duh? > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'v

Re: Arrgghhhh! Adobe should loosen up the developer edition a bit.

So you are saying that cf isn't open source? Uh, duh? On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been down that road before. I had a server that ran the latest > version > of BD that was available to run free as a server. It was a pain finding > out >

Re: finally, something tailored for this group

uhhh, couldnt we all :) On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jacob prolly could help you out with that... > > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Tiny URL with a twist.it displays a warning about how f

Re: Arrgghhhh! Adobe should loosen up the developer edition a bit.

I've been down that road before. I had a server that ran the latest version of BD that was available to run free as a server. It was a pain finding out that things didn't necessarily run the same way on BD as it did on CF. Plus were already invested in CF licenses. As for a bogus reason...well,

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

why does it impair the female? She can still have children. She can still have sex. do you consider lowered sensation an impairment? If so, how can you be certain that circumcision doesn't impair sensation? are you sure it's only helpful? Infant dies after botched circumcision http://www.cana

Re: My Prius - 3 tankful's later

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Stuff White People Like just got whiter

So, the site Stuff White People Like was bought by Target recently. See it here: http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.wordpress.com/ Bruce ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the F

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

I don't see the correlation. One is helpful, useful, and does not in any way impair the male. The other is dangerous and definitely detrimental. So it's not a double standard. On 01/04/2008, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >it's just that in our society, circumcision is normal and >

Re: Arrgghhhh! Adobe should loosen up the developer edition a bit.

Isn't that more than a bit of a bogus reason. Besides if you're so worried about it, you could install BlueDragon JX or Railo, they have more liberal rules for their developers versions. Also there's the BlueDragon Open source version for J2EE that's going to be out very shortly. >"A License e

Re: My Prius - 3 tankful's later

yeah, but will we ever see it here? Europe has all the cool diesel cars including the BMW 520D which gets about the same mileage as the Prius.we get a model or two. On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Zap wrote: > > to sit in, the diesel engine would

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

my argument is that female genital mutilation is akin to circumcisionit's just that in our society, circumcision is normal and therefore accepted, yet we balk at female genital cutting. I think it's a double standard and just goes to show how arrogant our society can be: Circumcision - perfor

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

How did we go from male circumcision to female mutilation? 0_0 > > so you would argue that as long as the female is young enough not to have > > a > > choice, clitoral mutilation is fine. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

> > so you would argue that as long as the female is young enough not to have > a > choice, clitoral mutilation is fine. Different in degree as I stated earlier. There's a difference between cutting off a small piece of skin and cutting off a (minor) appendage. ~~

Re: Chris Hitchens: The Real Harm Hillary Inflicted on Bosnia

Robert... Do you honestly give a crap about 250,000 people in Bosnia if just a single American can get healthcare who otherwise would not have? What kind of a Patriot are you?? *waves red white and blue flag madly* Liberty and Freedom! Liberty and Freedom! >:-) On 01/04/2008, Robert Munn <[EMAI

Re: Chris Hitchens: The Real Harm Hillary Inflicted on Bosnia

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > So essentially, Hillary vetoed doing anything about ethnic cleansing in > Bosnia because she felt it would jeopardize her health-care initiative. > > THEN, Bush goes to war and America gives up all domestic non-se

Re: My Prius - 3 tankful's later

> Zap wrote: > to sit in, the diesel engine would just be burning fuel like any other > vehicle, while in the hybrid, it doesn't. > Here's your answer: http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/03/revealed-volksw.html ~| Adobe® ColdFusi

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hey, if someone WANTS a circumcision, no problem. I disagree with doing > > it > > to individuals who have no choice in the matter. > > Babies have no choice in any matter. We force them to nurse or not. We > forc

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's nice evidence, probably eclipsed by the benefits of using a condom > though > > ..what about the evidence of botched circumcisions and the lives > they've > ruined. That's why you go to a professional. A mo

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

> > Hey, if someone WANTS a circumcision, no problem. I disagree with doing > it > to individuals who have no choice in the matter. Babies have no choice in any matter. We force them to nurse or not. We force them to wear diapers when they want to be naked. We taken them for shots and on and on.

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

Botched MALE circumcisions in the developed world? Where did you read about that? On 01/04/2008, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's nice evidence, probably eclipsed by the benefits of using a condom > though > > ..what about the evidence of botched circumcisions and the live

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

It's nice evidence, probably eclipsed by the benefits of using a condom though ..what about the evidence of botched circumcisions and the lives they've ruined. On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So what do you think of the evidence that suggests that m

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So what do you consider a prince albert then? Or pierced ears (though > neither of those examples carry any benefit beyond aesthetics). Body > modifications from early age on up for health reasons alone are done every >

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

So what do you consider a prince albert then? Or pierced ears (though neither of those examples carry any benefit beyond aesthetics). Body modifications from early age on up for health reasons alone are done every day and banning one means banning them all. Cleft pallet? any form of childhood cosme

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

Nope. If it comes to giving up circumcision I'll just leave the country to a place where its not an issue. That's the perfect point. If someone doesn't like the rules they can leave. But I'm not worried much as there are positive medical benefits to circumcision. The fight goes back and forth for a

Chris Hitchens: The Real Harm Hillary Inflicted on Bosnia

http://www.slate.com/id/2187780 "Let me quote from Sally Bedell Smith's admirable book on the happy couple, *For Love of Politics *:" Taking the advice of Al Gore and National Security Advisor Tony Lake, Bill agreed to

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

So what do you think of the evidence that suggests that men who have been circumcised have a lower chance of picking up some sexually transmitted diseases? On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I consider circumcision a form of genital mutilation that sh

Re: Flash player...what gives?

Yea, dude, this happens with my wife's Dell notebook all the time. Strangely, it's only in IE that the problem exists. Same page on FF works just fine. I haven't had time to look up the solution, but if ever find one, post back! On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:29 PM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: finally, something tailored for this group

Jacob prolly could help you out with that... On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tiny URL with a twist.it displays a warning about how following > the link is NSFW. > > > http://nsfw.in/ > > > now, if only I had a good link to test it out with.

finally, something tailored for this group

Tiny URL with a twist.it displays a warning about how following the link is NSFW. http://nsfw.in/ now, if only I had a good link to test it out with. -- Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time, Plans that either come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines.

Flash player...what gives?

I had a flash prog tell me the other day that I had to upgrade to the latest Flash player, 9.something..so I did...and now I can't see ANY flash content..what the hell??? -- It was dark all around, there was frost on the ground, when the tigers broke free. ~~

Re: The Curious Case of Sidd Finch

Yep. That is partly what makes it so memorable.many people were taken in by it, and some of them were quite pissed off as well. My 5th grade teacher showed us the article back then. I didn't really understand the significance of it back then, but for some reason, I NEVER forgot the name "Sidd

RE: The Curious Case of Sidd Finch

I can't believe it! I hate Sports Illustrated and never read it, but I happened to read this one article back then, and remember it vividly to this day. The "Sidd," IIRC, was a takeoff on Siddhartha, and he wore a boot on one foot and always had this peaceful look on his face. Really well done,

Arrgghhhh! Adobe should loosen up the developer edition a bit.

"A License exception has been thrown" One more reason it can be easier to develop in Rails vs CFI tried to get 3 people to comment on some mods I was doing to the web site. First two got inthird got the above message. I know that you don't want people using dev versions for hosting,

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

Looks like it is parent, guardian or _spouse_. LOL. Some reading on the subject of ct minor alcohol laws http://www.cga.ct.gov/2003/rpt/2003-R-0011.htm http://www.cga.ct.gov/2003/olrdata/jud/rpt/2003-R-0013.htm On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 2:32 PM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting..

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

I consider circumcision a form of genital mutilation that should have been banned already. On Apr 1, 2008, at 10:31 AM, Todd wrote: > So, you are saying that you would give up on circumcision without a > fuss, > since, as you say, it is a sociatal issue as well as religious? > > - Origin

The Curious Case of Sidd Finch

Revisiting one of my favorite April Fool's jokes of all time.perpetrated by Sports Illustrated 23 years ago today: http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1119283/index.htm#?bcnn=yes -- It was dark all around, there was frost on the ground, when the tigers broke free

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

Interestingi don't THINK Kansas has that stipulation But I guess I'm not really sure... On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As a bartender, I more than once served beers to a father and his sons, > all > under 18. > > In CT, the alcohol needs to

Re: unsubscribe

He would make a good running mate in some ways, but that leaves the Democratic ticket with senators from Illinois and Nebraska, not exactly the strongest regional ticket. Someone from the west coast/southwest would be good. On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 5:57 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

As a bartender, I more than once served beers to a father and his sons, all under 18. In CT, the alcohol needs to be purchased by a _parent_, not by another responsible adult. On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 11:31 AM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You know, it's interesting. There are instances wh

Re: So, my Dad's going to Slovakia...

It was primarily NorthWest Air and they've always been turds of a sort, so it wasn't surprising that they were amenable to the company's suggestion... Long past though. Long past. :-) On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well that's too bad. I still look

RE: So, my Dad's going to Slovakia...

Well that's too bad. I still look into each reward account and try and check in under it. Especially airlines. They are so anal that the points go to the person who is flying. I find it hard to believe the airline took em away. Let's whack em with a muffin pan, see what happens ... :D >>: -O

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

Been watching horror movies again? On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > poking..lol. > Pokey pokey...gonna kill you soon little sheep..pokey poke poke. Now? > N..not now...POKE..Now? N...SLASH!! > hee hee hee. > 0_0 > > that image seemed funny to me...at

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

It's no less objectionable than food labeled vegan or fat free. I think the opposition may be due to the images associated with the slaughter of Halal meat which is usually a goat with its head cut off and blood all over the place. Even knowing more about the how and why of it I still have that ima

Re: So, my Dad's going to Slovakia...

> Did which, take her points away? yes -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic relea

RE: So, my Dad's going to Slovakia...

And you don't have to do a thing, until you check in. It's fine for them to book, and that's what I meant by the concierge my friend has to go thru (they get a corporate kickback and some perks) - however, when you check in, whether it's flying, driving, or sleeping ... you use your points card.

RE: So, my Dad's going to Slovakia...

Did which, take her points away? >>: -Original Message- >>: From: William Bowen >>: >>: heh... my wife's former company did exactly that. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

poking..lol. Pokey pokey...gonna kill you soon little sheep..pokey poke poke. Now? N..not now...POKE..Now? N...SLASH!! hee hee hee. 0_0 that image seemed funny to me...at that point in time... i guess you sort of had to be in my head. :-\ anyways...thanks for the info, it's sort of w

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

Yes and no. Dhabihah (the Islamic laws of animal slaughter) are in some ways more lenient than those of shechita (the Jewish laws of animal slaughter). The former can be done by any adult Muslim while the latter can only be done by a trained shochet (pious and learned individual knowledgeable in th

RE: So, another exercise in futility?

I'm in favor of keeping tax breaks for oil companies and attaching a condition that the oil companies hasten their transition from being oil companies to being *energy* companies. Like it or not, oil companies are in the best position to advance alternative energies like solar, wind, and hydrogen.

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

yeah, I guess that's true. On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually in many states it's only illegal for those under 21 to purchase > alcohol, and drink without parental consent. Many don't have a problem > so long as there is parental consent. > > G Mone

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

So, you are saying that you would give up on circumcision without a fuss, since, as you say, it is a sociatal issue as well as religious? - Original Message - From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 11:08 AM Subject: Re: Ayaan Hirsi

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

Actually in many states it's only illegal for those under 21 to purchase alcohol, and drink without parental consent. Many don't have a problem so long as there is parental consent. G Money wrote: > You know, it's interesting. There are instances where the laws have bent to > accommodate religi

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

You know, it's interesting. There are instances where the laws have bent to accommodate religious services. The big one that comes to mind is the Eucharistic ceremony for Christians. Christian children start participating in the Eucharistic ceremony when they are in about 2nd grade. At that point

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

> and me being available to the lists on a Saturday is not a law. :) yeah... not yet. ;-) Thanks. -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~| Adobe® Col

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

Is this similar to Halal foods? On 01/04/2008, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Time and again it's been shown that ritual slaughtering is more humane than > the standard > bolt to > the head. The practice is also proof against such things as mad cow disease. ~

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

We've already done so. Biblically you're allowed multiple wives. This practice has been prohibited to conform to the social norms of Europe and later America. At the moment I can't think of any Jewish laws that would conflict with social laws. Just about all of our laws are personal/communal ones w

So, another exercise in futility?

Just read this story: http://tinyurl.com/2desjj* *It is a nice gesture that congress seems interested in why gas is going so high, but come on. It has yet to pass the senate, and we know that Bush comes from oil money so surely *he* is not going to allow anything negative towards the oil compan

Re: My Prius - 3 tankful's later

definitely.My diesel truck always got it's best mileage on the highway. Put it in traffic and it sucked the go juice down a lot quicker. Stop and go mileage is what swayed my decision on hybrid vs waiting for the new Jetta. I figure with as much traffic that I tend to sit in, the die

Re: Voice Of Confidence

William Bowen wrote: > Then China takes out its own banks, and its own economy. Along with > the economies of many other nations as well. > > They really can't call the debt...not unless they're willing to sink, too > Yup - 100% accurate. There is alot of emotion involved in most people's vie

Re: Voice Of Confidence

Mutually assured destruction. That's my point. Ain't gonna happen in that sort of "uncontrolled, holy shit the sky is falling" kinda way because they need a healthy US economy to buy the stuff they manufacture and sell to us. -Cameron Vivec wrote: > And what about when China decides to call

Re: Voice Of Confidence

> And what about when China decides to call in all that US Debt? Then China takes out its own banks, and its own economy. Along with the economies of many other nations as well. They really can't call the debt...not unless they're willing to sink, too -- will "If my life weren't funny, it woul

Re: Voice Of Confidence

And what about when China decides to call in all that US Debt? On 01/04/2008, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This means that if we wanted to, right now, we could stop importing > anything from China which would cause calamity in China for months, > years, or forever.

Re: Voice Of Confidence

Gruss Gott wrote: > If the Chinese wanted to, right now, they could start selling dollars > which would cause economic calamity in the US for months, years, or > forever. The fed would have no choice but to raise rates > stratospherically which would sink us into a depression or worse. > They n

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

> I agree. Now lets enforce that. So, Michael, just out of curiosity, what practice of your own religion would you be willing to give up for the sake of conforming to this (American) society's laws? And would you do so quietly? -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and t

RE: Whats good on the internet

> From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I watch the old "Dragnet" episodes and Vincent Price movies. Yeah, I love Dragnet, too. Hated the comic ripoff movie. It's really interesting to watch the earliest and then the latest episodes, because interpretation of 4th Amendment rights changed d

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

The problem is we're too afraid. We're afraid of being called racist. We're afraid of being called sexist. We're afraid people saying we discriminate based on religion. We've become so wallowed in guilt and fear that we allow the most insane things to just slide by. I've seen nationwide news of ter

Re: Voice Of Confidence

>I'm pretty damned surprised myself. The Iraqis have not been taking the >initiative, this is really their first time out on their own doing, and >I'd say they did pretty damned well. > You mean aside from getting their asses handed back to them by the Mehdi Army. From everything I could find

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

So? F*** em. Let them prove the law is unfair or targeting them through the established legal systems. On 01/04/2008, C. Hatton Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The problem with that concept is that in "civilized" societies those > with extreme views and practices cry foul when laws are e

RE: Whats good on the internet

Tru dat, yo! That was the single finest work of television, ever. And yes, grieving is the exact word for it: you miss something that you just know can never be replaced because "they just don't make 'em, that good anymore." I have the first four seasons on DVD and can't wait for the final fif

RE: My Prius - 3 tankful's later

It's no accident that long-haul vehicles (18-wheelers, locomotives) run on diesel. -Original Message- From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:52 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: My Prius - 3 tankful's later If you have a no traffic highway ro

RE: Ticket Number: 5647600545188

"Five Hundred Thousand Great British Pounds." Even they realized the US Dollar is worthless ;-) -Original Message- From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 11:19 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Fwd: Ticket Number: 5647600545188 w00t! I w0nz a b33mer!!

Re: Voice Of Confidence

To me the point is not how we got there, it is the fact that we are there and like we have done in the past (except Clinton in Somalia) we stayed for the long haul and saw it through. Germany was crawling with insurgents after WWII and we stayed to stabilize not only the country, but the region

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali videos on Islam

> There are models to follow, and I can perhaps use Trinidad as an > example. There is a strong muslim population here and we don't have > issues of wife killing etc. or any of the more radical things you read > about. We haven't altered our laws to allow for any of these extreme > acts either

Re: My Prius - 3 tankful's later

60~65 depending on the speed limit. Most of my "gains" come from traffic though. Just straight out highway (no traffic) driving will net me in the upper 40's to low 50's. Once I hit a little bit of traffic, my mileage starts to skyrocket because of the electric system kicking in. If you

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