Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Judah McAuley
It doesn't actually even say slaves. It details who is counted as a person, who is excluded (Indians not subject to taxation) and then everyone else is 3/5ths. I found it interesting that those who were indentured servants were counted as whole persons. Judah On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Ma

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Maureen
Slaves were counted as 3/5 - nowhere does it say black slaves. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > I imagine that if you're a constitutional originalist race has to be > counted - weren't black slaves counted as 2/3d's a person. ~~~

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Judah McAuley
Both close, it was 3/5ths. >From Article 1, Section 2: Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Scott Stroz
I thought it was 2/5's? On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > I imagine that if you're a constitutional originalist race has to be > counted - weren't black slaves counted as 2/3d's a person. > > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Maureen wrote: >> >> I leave it blank.  Fra

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I imagine that if you're a constitutional originalist race has to be counted - weren't black slaves counted as 2/3d's a person. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Maureen wrote: > > I leave it blank.  Frankly, my race, sex, gender, color, sexual > preference and a wide variety of other attributes

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Maureen
I leave it blank. Frankly, my race, sex, gender, color, sexual preference and a wide variety of other attributes are none of the government's business. The quickest way to resolve the major issues regarding race or other forms of discrimination would be for everyone to refuse to answer those que

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
+100 On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: >> >> "Race is a tricky thing to even define in America considering the amount of >> intermarrying." >> >> Exactly.  That is why it race shouldn't be a determining factor in the >

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Judah McAuley
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Race is a tricky thing to even define in America considering the amount of > intermarrying." > > Exactly.  That is why it race shouldn't be a determining factor in the > fields we a discussing.  Hell, Barrack is called black, but he's half

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
"But considering that you chastised me for saying that "class" isn't a useful enough distinction, I find it hard to accept 'I just know' as a distinction either." How about this: In my humble opinion, I think the time has passed. "Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are all about attention seeking.

Re: Breaking Story: Black Republican Congressional Candidate Thrown Out Of CF Dinner Because Big Donor Democrats Object!

2010-07-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
The story seems to be growing legs: Bill, Danielle, and Chip, at about 1210 pm today I received a call from Ms Chris Landshut, Executive Director of the South Florida Cystic Fibrosis Foundation. After reintroducing herself to me she was uncomfortable telling me of a situation that has arisen refe

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Medic
I blame rap music. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > > > "Fair enough. What do you think is the tipping point then where race > isn't a > > predictor of poverty?" > > > > All I can say is that the point has passe

Re: Breaking Story: Black Republican Congressional Candidate Thrown Out Of CF Dinner Because Big Donor Democrats Object!

2010-07-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
I'm still looking for more facts on the story and trying to verify its veracity. I'll fill you in when I find more. I did find that Cystic Fibrosis Foundation page is cfm based. Oh, and if this is true, I do not think it is race based. It is strictly party based. However, due to the state of

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Judah McAuley
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Fair enough. What do you think is the tipping point then where race isn't a > predictor of poverty?" > > All I can say is that the point has passed.  Race is used these days as > political currency.  By declaring one race poorer than anoth

Re: Barak signs landmark financial reform bill today

2010-07-21 Thread Vivec
He was told not to go all giggly and give high fives and say things like "This is a big fucking deal" etc. You would not believe how many months of training it took to teach him to keep that one stoic expression throughout the event. Apparently afterward he was swinging from the chandileers yelli

Re: Breaking Story: Black Republican Congressional Candidate Thrown Out Of CF Dinner Because Big Donor Democrats Object!

2010-07-21 Thread Medic
Invitation withdrawn != thrown out. I quit after paragraph one. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > No, it's not a coldfusion dinner. CF stands for cystic Fibrosis. > > Here's the details: > > Retired Army Lt. Colonel Allen West is a conservative Black Republican. He >

Re: Barak signs landmark financial reform bill today

2010-07-21 Thread Medic
He looks about as happy as he always does to me. I didn't pick up any kind of negative body language from him. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > Is it just me or does Biden not look happy about the reforms? > > -Original Message- > From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail

RE: Breaking Story: Black Republican Congressional Candidate Thrown Out Of CF Dinner Because Big Donor Democrats Object!

2010-07-21 Thread Sisk, Kris
PBS might. They at least try to be balanced in their reporting. The fail most of the time but even trying puts them ahead of every other network. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 4:17 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Breaking

Re: Breaking Story: Black Republican Congressional Candidate Thrown Out Of CF Dinner Because Big Donor Democrats Object!

2010-07-21 Thread Judah McAuley
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > >>  Keep an eye on CBS, ABC, PBS, CNN, MSNBC, or listen to NPR for more >> details. >> > > Heh...you really think those agencies will carry this story? I would > be surprised if they do

Re: Breaking Story: Black Republican Congressional Candidate Thrown Out Of CF Dinner Because Big Donor Democrats Object!

2010-07-21 Thread Scott Stroz
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > > >  Keep an eye on CBS, ABC, PBS, CNN, MSNBC, or listen to NPR for more > details. > Heh...you really think those agencies will carry this story? I would be surprised if they do. -- Scott Stroz --- You can make things happe

Breaking Story: Black Republican Congressional Candidate Thrown Out Of CF Dinner Because Big Donor Democrats Object!

2010-07-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
No, it's not a coldfusion dinner. CF stands for cystic Fibrosis. Here's the details: Retired Army Lt. Colonel Allen West is a conservative Black Republican. He was to be honored at an upcoming Cystic Fibrosis fund raising Dinner in Florida, but the invitation was withdrawn because of pressure f

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Fair enough. What do you think is the tipping point then where race isn't a predictor of poverty?" All I can say is that the point has passed. Race is used these days as political currency. By declaring one race poorer than another and promising rectification of the problem, a politician is tr

RE: Holy Overpaid Bureaucrats Batman

2010-07-21 Thread Sisk, Kris
I call BS. The national average household income in 2007 was 50k and the article states that the average in Bells in half of the national average, which means those people are getting by on under 30k. Besides if what you say were true then janitors, hamburger flippers, and grocery baggers would a

Re: Holy Overpaid Bureaucrats Batman

2010-07-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
"That meaningless aside aside, why not extend that idea (stoning overpaid officials) ought to be extended to the corporate world as well. I figure within a week we'd lose about a quarter of the CEO's and most of the Goldman-Sachs people." Personally, there's a lot of employees and former employee

Re: Holy Overpaid Bureaucrats Batman

2010-07-21 Thread Maureen
You forget that the corporations are the darlings of the conservatives and ripping people off is only wrong if the government is doing it. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > That meaningless aside aside, why not extend that idea (stoning > overpaid officials) ought to be e

Re: Holy Overpaid Bureaucrats Batman

2010-07-21 Thread Maureen
Nobody gets rich in California on those salaries. Just barely getting by out here required a six figure salary. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > Unfortunately what's right often isn't legal and what's legal often > isn't right. There should be something that can be done ab

Re: Holy Overpaid Bureaucrats Batman

2010-07-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Given the possibly successful effort to legalize marijuana then its entirely possible that some officials will be stoned. Just not the way you want. That meaningless aside aside, why not extend that idea (stoning overpaid officials) ought to be extended to the corporate world as well. I figure wi

Re: Holy Overpaid Bureaucrats Batman

2010-07-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
While those knowingly receiving the exorbitant salaries should be stoned, those who elected the council which hired the city officials and over-inflated prices are culpable as well. I'll let George Jean Nathan sum it up: "Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote." J - The d

RE: Barak signs landmark financial reform bill today

2010-07-21 Thread Sisk, Kris
Is it just me or does Biden not look happy about the reforms? -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 2:19 PM To: cf-community Subject: Barak signs landmark financial reform bill today http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10719134

RE: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Sisk, Kris
I've been thinking this through this whole debate. Yes, poverty is and always has been (and likely always will be) the most accurate predictor of future poverty. However consider this for a moment: Most blacks in America descended from slaves, and thus come from families that were almost certainl

Re: Holy Overpaid Bureaucrats Batman

2010-07-21 Thread Medic
It's the way it's always been. It's the way it always will be. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > "The salaries do not appear to violate any laws, said Dave Demerjian, > head of the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Public Integrity > Division." > > Unfortunately what's

RE: Holy Overpaid Bureaucrats Batman

2010-07-21 Thread Sisk, Kris
"The salaries do not appear to violate any laws, said Dave Demerjian, head of the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Public Integrity Division." Unfortunately what's right often isn't legal and what's legal often isn't right. There should be something that can be done about that though. Those

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Not arguing with you about that, what you're saying is very standard. The data across the literature shows similar results. The problem is that race is so intertwined with SES in the United States that any causal model has to use race as a correlated predictor when including socio-economic status

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Judah McAuley
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > I never said that race at some point in history was not a predictor of > poverty.   You are deluding yourself if you think I said that.   I have said > race is no longer a predictor of poverty; instead, poverty  is the leading > indicator of

Re: anyone using Dreamweaver on a mac?

2010-07-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > At home we have a usb keyboard hooked up to a macbook. The only > difficulty we found was that the wind'ohs key is mapped to the apple > (command) key. Otherwise the home and end keys work as expected. What I find frustrating is that "as e

Re: anyone using Dreamweaver on a mac?

2010-07-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
At home we have a usb keyboard hooked up to a macbook. The only difficulty we found was that the wind'ohs key is mapped to the apple (command) key. Otherwise the home and end keys work as expected. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Lar

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
"The culture of poverty can be found anywhere. It certainly happens amongst whites, I grew up in the middle of it. But I think that you are deluding yourself if you don't think that there is a historic component to it and that historic component, in the US, is largely racial." I never said that r

Barak signs landmark financial reform bill today

2010-07-21 Thread Vivec
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10719134 US President Barack Obama has signed into law landmark financial regulatory reforms aimed at protecting consumers and stabilising Wall Street. Mr Obama said the measures would benefit "consumers, investors and financial institutions".

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Sam
Not sure why you keep saying poverty is increasing. It was 22% in '59 and it's 13.2% now. I used percentages because you don't like real numbers :) (40mil vs 40mil) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_States As for race when you break it down it's no longer 3 to 1: Among marr

Re: anyone using Dreamweaver on a mac?

2010-07-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > just get a keyboard with those on it. The mac will work with any USB keyboard. However, even with that keyboard, the Home and End keys do very different things when that keyboard is connected to a Mac (unless you modify them). -Cameron .

Re: anyone using Dreamweaver on a mac?

2010-07-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
just get a keyboard with those on it. The mac will work with any USB keyboard. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > its amazing, its fast, it was redic intuitive in most every way so far! > > i REALLY miss my home/end/pageup/pagedown buttons tho :( > > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Judah McAuley
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "So it's not being a minority that causes poverty, it's the culture of being > poor." > > Exactly.  I couldn't have said it better myself. Which is what I've been talking about distinguishing class versus race and current economic situati

Re: serious IE/Safari security hole

2010-07-21 Thread Casey Dougall
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > using autocomplete: > > > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/20/browser_info_disclosure_weaknesses/ > > That ain't good! > > -Cameron > > That's why you should use a plugi

Re: Holy Overpaid Bureaucrats Batman

2010-07-21 Thread Robert Munn
Too bad that the practice of putting people in stocks in the town square isn't still in use. Maybe the citizens of this town can bring it back for this one occasion. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > That is really messed up. Here is the original LA Times article on it:

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
"So it's not being a minority that causes poverty, it's the culture of being poor." Exactly. I couldn't have said it better myself. J - Empty pockets never held anyone back. Only empty heads and empty hearts can do that. - Norman Vincent Peale ~~~

Re: Holy Overpaid Bureaucrats Batman

2010-07-21 Thread Judah McAuley
That is really messed up. Here is the original LA Times article on it: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-bell-salary-20100715,0,1323511,print.story Fascinating thing, to me, is that the officials defend the salaries. Some people really have no shame. Judah On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:56 A

Holy Overpaid Bureaucrats Batman

2010-07-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
I've seen this story floating around on a couple of sites. I thought I would share it. The town of Bell CA has a population of roughly 38,000 people. It is located approximately 10 miles from down-town LA. According to the 2000 census, 90% of the population is of Hispanic background. Over 50%

Re: serious IE/Safari security hole

2010-07-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > using autocomplete: > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/20/browser_info_disclosure_weaknesses/ That ain't good! -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology

Re: anyone using Dreamweaver on a mac?

2010-07-21 Thread Ray Champagne
I admit, one of the things that seems infinitely easier to me on Windows is managing proxies. I hate the way Apple does it. Of course, if our company would just STFU and dump the proxy servers, life would be much easier for just about everyone. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Zaphod Beeblebro

Re: anyone using Dreamweaver on a mac?

2010-07-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Good to see Windows caught up! ;) On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Casey Dougall wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < > zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> I had a coworker that just bought a new mac for her daughter. >> Everybody else has pc's in the house.

Re: anyone using Dreamweaver on a mac?

2010-07-21 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > its amazing, its fast, it was redic intuitive in most every way so far! > > i REALLY miss my home/end/pageup/pagedown buttons tho :( Not fun to relearn this stuff, but... End: Command+Right Arrow Home: Command+Left Arrow PageDown: Ctrl+Down

serious IE/Safari security hole

2010-07-21 Thread Robert Munn
using autocomplete: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/20/browser_info_disclosure_weaknesses/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=ho

Re: anyone using Dreamweaver on a mac?

2010-07-21 Thread Ras Tafari
its amazing, its fast, it was redic intuitive in most every way so far! i REALLY miss my home/end/pageup/pagedown buttons tho :( On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > I had a coworker that just bought a new mac for her daughter. > Everybody else has pc's in the house.  

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Sam
The report seems to be saying race itself does not cause drop outs. In these cases chances of dropping out increased significantly: Being poor, low SES. Raised by a single parent. Move around a lot. PTA involvement Parental education achievement expectations Behavior including smoking. So it's n

Re: anyone using Dreamweaver on a mac?

2010-07-21 Thread Casey Dougall
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I had a coworker that just bought a new mac for her daughter. > Everybody else has pc's in the house. She asked me if I would come by > and help them set up the mac on their wireless network. She told

Re: anyone using Dreamweaver on a mac?

2010-07-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I had a coworker that just bought a new mac for her daughter. Everybody else has pc's in the house. She asked me if I would come by and help them set up the mac on their wireless network. She told me that they had spent quite some time trying to figure out how to set it up. I told her to go hom

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Scott Stroz
Even in this study, it seems as if different people were being surveyed during the different follow-ups. For example, those who were identified in the base year, but did not reply, were allowed to repli in the first follow up. Again, it seems as if subsequent follow ups are adding in new people as

Re: anyone using Dreamweaver on a mac?

2010-07-21 Thread Ray Champagne
I cannot help you here, I use Eclipse. I will say though, that the transition to Mac's ways are at times frustrating and hard to grasp, but once you do, you can see that in most ways, things are just easier in Mac. I'm helping transition a couple of people here at work into Mac development, and

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Scott Stroz
This reply is based on the data from this link, http://cloud9.norc.uchicago.edu/faqs/nels.htm not the PDF. I hit 'reply' on the last message. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > Sorry, maybe I am just dumb, but I do not see how that makes any > sense. Here is what does not com

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Scott Stroz
Sorry, maybe I am just dumb, but I do not see how that makes any sense. Here is what does not compute with me (not saying its wrong, just does not make sense) 1. None of the followups include the same people. For example, the first follow up does not include data from parents. 2. Beyond the first

Re: anyone using Dreamweaver on a mac?

2010-07-21 Thread Ras Tafari
not that i can find yet... i guess its just something im going to have to get used to... all good :) it'll work in many ways for me, so much that this will be a notion of a longtime old friend ras On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Medic wrote: > > Is there a dreamweaver setting (like in PS on

Re: anyone using Dreamweaver on a mac?

2010-07-21 Thread Medic
Is there a dreamweaver setting (like in PS on windows) where you can choose between the adobe type viewer or system type? Just a thought. I've never once used a Mac. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > medic, that may work in finder, but i inside of dreamweaver, i dont > kno

Re: CFUnited Here I Come

2010-07-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I'll be there. Arriving Tuesday after work and staying on until Friday at 5. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Rick Root wrote: > > I haven't mentioned it but I know you're all dying to know... I'm > going to CFUnited this year! > > The powers that be which have prevented me from attending confe

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
OK Scott last thing. This is the 4th follow up technical report on the methodology: http://nces.ed.gov/pubs95/95426.pdf On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > Also I found some more detail explanation of the followups for the > survey which ended in the late 80's. From what I

Re: anyone using Dreamweaver on a mac?

2010-07-21 Thread Ras Tafari
medic, that may work in finder, but i inside of dreamweaver, i dont know... seems like a dreamweaver thing, maybe? On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Ras Tafari wrote: > yah, i have... maybe medics link will work... > > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Larry C. Lyons > wrote: >> >> Have you tr

Re: anyone using Dreamweaver on a mac?

2010-07-21 Thread Ras Tafari
yah, i have... maybe medics link will work... On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Have you tried clicking on any of the headers? > > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Tony wrote: >> >> i am now, and i dont like how the files are listed... on my pc >> the folders were bun

CFUnited Here I Come

2010-07-21 Thread Rick Root
I haven't mentioned it but I know you're all dying to know... I'm going to CFUnited this year! The powers that be which have prevented me from attending conferences for the last several years decided I get to go this year. I skipped CFUnited in 2008 so that I could go to Adobe MAX in San Francis

Re: anyone using Dreamweaver on a mac?

2010-07-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Have you tried clicking on any of the headers? On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Tony wrote: > > i am now, and i dont like how the files are listed... on my pc > the folders were bunched @ the top, and the files, under... now > they are all interspersed any ideas how to change that? > > than

Re: anyone using Dreamweaver on a mac?

2010-07-21 Thread Medic
Perhaps this will help? http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/os-x-operating-system/45390-sorting-file-folders-like-pc.html On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Tony wrote: > > i am now, and i dont like how

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Also I found some more detail explanation of the followups for the survey which ended in the late 80's. From what I understand the same methodology was used. http://cloud9.norc.uchicago.edu/faqs/nels.htm On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > Here Scott, this is a very brief e

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Vivec
The USDA is going to reconsider ousting the official based on more complete information that they now have at hand. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128659806&sc=fb&cc=fp ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Antholo

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Here Scott, this is a very brief explanation of longitudinal research: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longitudinal_study To get how the researchers did the actual assessments, you'll need to troll the NORC site's methodology sections for how they handled attrition etc. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:3

Re: anyone using Dreamweaver on a mac?

2010-07-21 Thread Ras Tafari
:) eat me? maybe? hahahahah On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Switch to Windows...or stop using Dreamweaver. :P > > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Tony wrote: >> >> i am now, and i dont like how the files are listed... on my pc >> the folders were bunched @ the top, an

Re: anyone using Dreamweaver on a mac?

2010-07-21 Thread Scott Stroz
Switch to Windows...or stop using Dreamweaver. :P On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Tony wrote: > > i am now, and i dont like how the files are listed... on my pc > the folders were bunched @ the top, and the files, under... now > they are all interspersed any ideas how to change that? > > t

anyone using Dreamweaver on a mac?

2010-07-21 Thread Tony
i am now, and i dont like how the files are listed... on my pc the folders were bunched @ the top, and the files, under... now they are all interspersed any ideas how to change that? thanks! tw ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
"I don't see why I ought to provide freebies when I charge a consulting fee for doing such." Thank God. I don't think we could stand any more free analysis. J - The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. I think my

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Sam
Wow, I can't believe you have such a hatred for real news. Fox didn't even cover the story until after she resigned. But go and blame them anyway. As for Breitbart, he states his point was the NAACP called the tea party movement racist yet while Sherrod was telling them how she was racist agains

There's an Air of Flexyness about me.

2010-07-21 Thread Medic
Here's the backstory: So DL'd FB4 recently. It's been about nine months since I've touched Flex and thought I'd throw my hat in the ring for a little Air project I've been wanting to do. So I started building my app. It's a pretty simple form that when submitted creates an object, passes it to my

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Scott Stroz
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Not. But to give a real answer that addresses your concerns would take > a fair amount of work, the sort of stuff I do consulting. Besides, > being stuck on a commuter train right now makes it rather difficult in > the first place. > > Gh

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Not. But to give a real answer that addresses your concerns would take a fair amount of work, the sort of stuff I do consulting. Besides, being stuck on a commuter train right now makes it rather difficult in the first place. Ghads I hate commuting. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Scott Stroz

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You and Judah have it wrong the real answer is both. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 7:52 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Both. One does not choose between the two nubile women when you can > realistically have both. Mostly you have to worry about that sneaky > Professor. He may have to be bumped off." > >

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Scott Stroz
Why do you seem to be taking that personally? I am just curious how following some kids for 1 year and some for 14 years can yield consistent data. As I said, a lot can happen to people in 14 years. In 14 years you can go from 2nd grade to college graduate. Or from 6th grade to being a doctor. I

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Not sure about that. With correlated predictors you cannot reliably ascertain on whether the effects on a dependent variable are the result of one correlated predictor or another. In this case to what degree is school achievement due to SES or racial factors. The actual analyses we did was lookin

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Its still legitimate. The longitudinal sampling techniques took such into account. Go to the site and look at how they do that sort of research. I'm pretty satisfied with their methodology, as is the entire field. You need to do your own research about it. I don't see why I ought to provide freebi

Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth.

2010-07-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Both. One does not choose between the two nubile women when you can realistically have both. Mostly you have to worry about that sneaky Professor. He may have to be bumped off." We differ there. It would have to be Mary Ann. I am into substance over appearance. Though yours wasn't a bad choic