RE: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Like Fox would mention Palin even if he had a shrine dedicated to her in his back yard. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 21:54 To: cf-community Subject: Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range. In

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Interesting...no mention of Palin This guy was obviously a few french fries short of a happy meal, I doubt we will ever know what pushed him over the edge. On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > From the fox news site... > > New details are emerging about Loughner as a la

RE: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

>From the fox news site... New details are emerging about Loughner as a law enforcement memo based on information provided by the Department of Homeland Security and obtained by Fox News suggests he may have ties to the American Renaissance group, though it's unclear if he was directly affiliated

RE: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

How's that? -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 21:40 To: cf-community Subject: Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range. You really need to look up the definition of 'dishonest', those quotes are no

RE: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Not in combination of telling people to lock and load or don't retreat...reload... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 21:37 To: cf-community Subject: Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range. Was it the DN

RE: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

I would disagree with that. That's not a comment on whether I think the is a good or bad leader... -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 21:26 To: cf-community Subject: Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank

RE: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Caught being the operative word of course ;-) -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 21:25 To: cf-community Subject: Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range. On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Eric Robert

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

You really need to look up the definition of 'dishonest', those quotes are no more out of context than anything Palin was quoted as saying. On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Now copy the quotes in their full contextthat was pretty dishonest > Jerry. > > -Original M

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Was it the DNC that used bullseye on their map? On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Democratic leaders are not using the same rhetoric...Republican leaders are. > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

The DHS has walked that statement back On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > There was an FBI release that said he was potentially associated with an > anti-semitic group.  I would have to look up the name as I don't remember > offhand.  Fox tried to use it to say that he wasn

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Maureen wrote: > > If I told you that I had you in my cross-hairs, would you assume I was > going to put you on a map, or send our my surveyor? And I was an elected official? I would assume my job is at risk. > Especially if I > was constantly talking about lo

RE: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Now copy the quotes in their full contextthat was pretty dishonest Jerry. -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 13:29 To: cf-community Subject: Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range. "Do you t

RE: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

No...but that is the way they are rationalizing it to ease their consciences... -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 13:09 To: cf-community Subject: Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range. Where did

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > It's when you say...She is on my target list...lock and load...that it > becomes pretty explicit...or don't retreat...reload... That has not been my bone of contention. My bone of contention has been that, before an investigation even star

RE: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

If this was the first incident Scott...I would agree...but unfortunately it isn't. There is a track record here of violent acts by righties against those they disagree with when their leaders make statements like these. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sen

RE: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Democratic leaders are not using the same rhetoric...Republican leaders are. -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 12:55 To: cf-community Subject: Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range. So, I guess w

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Palin is not a 'leader' by even the loosest definition of the word. :D On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > The one thing that all of these instances and images have in common:  Not > one liberal leader was advocating any of this...No Nancy Pelosi.  No Barak > Obama, No Ted K

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > There is nothing illegal about being anti-anything as long you are just > talking and not either advocating violence against the group you are against > or actually perpetrating violence against them.  That why the various KKK > and neo-Naz

RE: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

It's when you say...She is on my target list...lock and load...that it becomes pretty explicit...or don't retreat...reload... -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdino...@houseoffusion.com] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 12:03 To: cf-community Subject: Re: Democratic congr

RE: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

The one thing that all of these instances and images have in common: Not one liberal leader was advocating any of this...No Nancy Pelosi. No Barak Obama, No Ted Kennedy, No Sherrod Brown...not one... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 10, 20

RE: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

There is nothing illegal about being anti-anything as long you are just talking and not either advocating violence against the group you are against or actually perpetrating violence against them. That why the various KKK and neo-Nazi groups are able to exist...as long as they don't do anything i

RE: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

There was an FBI release that said he was potentially associated with an anti-semitic group. I would have to look up the name as I don't remember offhand. Fox tried to use it to say that he wasn't associated with the group even though the report clearly says they strongly believe that he was. -

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

If I told you that I had you in my cross-hairs, would you assume I was going to put you on a map, or send our my surveyor? Especially if I was constantly talking about loading my gun? Your argument regarding the difference is specious at best. What you consistently miss is that I think they are

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

The point is you don't seem to care that the dems use bullseyes while you're all upset about Palin's surveyor cross hairs. Both have nothing to do with the shooting, but if you're going to moan about nothing, do it in a non-partisan way. . On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Maureen wrote: > > J

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Vivec wrote: > > " I never claimed that Palin and her drivel did not influence this guy," > > Fair enough. <.< >.> O.O =) :Den -- If the Resurrection is resurrection from the dead, all hope and freedom are in spite of death. Paul Ricoeur

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

The thing that reminds me of how "kid logic" works is this rationalization about "other people" doing X. The issue is folks "euphemising" the use of violence as a solution to political problems. Logic like "the Liberals on this list would do the same thing!" and "Obama said bring a gun!", etc.,

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Just as every bad action of Bush was nots because Clinton got a blow-job, bad actions on one side do not excuse bad actions on the other. Saying that it is ok for Palin to use gun rhetoric and targets simply because the other side did begs the question, which is: Does rhetoric with the potential

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On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Casey Dougall < ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > >> >> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Cameron Childress >> wrote: >> >> > Good thing there is zero chance this will happen. >> > >> >> I can only h

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Focus Jerry, we only care about the threat Palin is to the country. . On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "First of all, not only "liberals"  are saying this.  If the map was that > innocent, why did Palin's staff remove it so quickly?" > > Great question.  Same reason the

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

"First of all, not only "liberals" are saying this. If the map was that innocent, why did Palin's staff remove it so quickly?" Great question. Same reason the daily kos removed their bullseye map I guess. Damage control "In addition to the map, Palin used consistent gun metaphors and imagery

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > Somehow, the liberals have construed that to mean that Sarah Palin literally > wanted to "target" Giffords to be shot. First of all, not only "liberals" are saying this. If the map was that innocent, why did Palin's staff remove it so qui

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

You mean Poser? :) On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Sam wrote: > > Isn't Vanilla Ice Gangsta :) > > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Michael Dinowitz > wrote: >> >> Not to be prejudice but the average gangster is white while the average >> gangsta is black. Though I seem to have a vague memor

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

I wish I knew, we could have spooned. It was really cold. On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > So did a few hundred other drunk guys after the prom. :) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http:/

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

So did a few hundred other drunk guys after the prom. :) On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Sam wrote: > > Did I ever mention I slept at the Jamaica Train station? With a tuxedo. > I'm Gangsta. > > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Michael Dinowitz > wrote: > > > > Friends, > > we gather here t

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Did I ever mention I slept at the Jamaica Train station? With a tuxedo. I'm Gangsta. On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > Friends, > we gather here today to mourn the death of Sam, struck down in his prime by > a lightning bolt from the sky for speaking blasphemy. :) >

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Friends, we gather here today to mourn the death of Sam, struck down in his prime by a lightning bolt from the sky for speaking blasphemy. :) On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Sam wrote: > > Isn't Vanilla Ice Gangsta :) > > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Michael Dinowitz > wrote: > > > > No

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Although now he is more Contracta and Plumba. On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > in his mind, yes. > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Sam wrote: > > > > Isn't Vanilla Ice Gangsta :) > ~| Order the Adobe

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

in his mind, yes. On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Sam wrote: > > Isn't Vanilla Ice Gangsta :) > > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Michael Dinowitz > wrote: >> >> Not to be prejudice but the average gangster is white while the average >> gangsta is black. Though I seem to have a vague memory

Re: Microsoft releasing a Touch Mouse

i did before i got it, and she's not let me down. i honestly feel compelled to be on it, working, or doodling, or creating new site... rather than being on a deadweight pc. On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Medic wrote: > > Yeah. I agree it's nice. The hard part I'm having with Mac's is that a lo

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Isn't Vanilla Ice Gangsta :) On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > Not to be prejudice but the average gangster is white while the average > gangsta is black. Though I seem to have a vague memory of Snoop in > pinstripes. > ~~~

Re: Microsoft releasing a Touch Mouse

Yeah. I agree it's nice. The hard part I'm having with Mac's is that a lot of the "features" kind of seem like much ado about nothing. I'm trying to be a Mac guy, but most of the time I just find myself asking "so THAT'S what I'm spending an extra $1000 on? Hopefully I'll come around. One thing I

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

VERY important, i draw ZERO color lines when talking about any prejudices or generalizations... zero. and yeah, sam, its gangsta... not gangster ;) On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > Not to be prejudice but the average gangster is white while the average > gangsta is b

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Not to be prejudice but the average gangster is white while the average gangsta is black. Though I seem to have a vague memory of Snoop in pinstripes. On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > i dont think i have to... i think its pretty self-evident what a > "gangsta, or knucklehe

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Ah Gansta not Gangster. Carry on. On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > i dont think i have to... i think its pretty self-evident what a > "gangsta, or knucklehead" would look like. > i know one when i see one, and i know what i do when i see one. > > its not called prejudice,

Re: Microsoft releasing a Touch Mouse

sure they do, but any that ive seen/used PALE in comparison to this one... the one that FULLY is sensitive to the most intuitive gesturing ive ever used. On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Medic wrote: > > Yeah it's nice. Though almost every laptop you can use the right-most and > bottom-most area

Re: Microsoft releasing a Touch Mouse

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Sam wrote: > Isn't that like 15 years old? Multitouch? No. As Medic pointed out some have an area on the side of the pad that has a special purpose, but that's very different than multitouch (and I don't really like it, the hit area is too small). -Cameron ..

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Last time I saw one was in cannonball 2. On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Sam wrote: > > That's what I thought. Haven't seen may around lately. > > last time I had seen someone fitting that description he said "I > didn't know you had a safe". A week later I didn't. > > > > Fedora hats, pinstri

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Case solved: http://realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/01/10/rep_clyburn_reading_of_the_constitution_egged_on_conduct_of_az_shooting.html “All [of] this stuff taking place in the Chambers the other day, when the Constitution was being read — all that stuff is uncalled for,” Rep. Clyburn (D-SC)

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

i dont think i have to... i think its pretty self-evident what a "gangsta, or knucklehead" would look like. i know one when i see one, and i know what i do when i see one. its not called prejudice, its called survival. On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Sam wrote: > > I don't. > > BTW, describe G

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lol On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > I don't. Both my vehicles lock the doors automatically. :P ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?t

Re: Microsoft releasing a Touch Mouse

Yeah it's nice. Though almost every laptop you can use the right-most and bottom-most areas of the touch pad as a scroll bar. On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Ray Champagne > wrote: > > I love the trackpad when I am just using my la

Re: Microsoft releasing a Touch Mouse

Isn't that like 15 years old? On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Ray Champagne wrote: >> I love the trackpad when I am just using my laptop by itself.  Somehow I >> cannot get used to the pad when it is external.  Weird. > > I've got

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

That's what I thought. Haven't seen may around lately. last time I had seen someone fitting that description he said "I didn't know you had a safe". A week later I didn't. On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > Fedora hats, pinstripe suits, wingtip shoes, saying "lets g

Re: Microsoft releasing a Touch Mouse

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Ray Champagne wrote: > I love the trackpad when I am just using my laptop by itself.  Somehow I > cannot get used to the pad when it is external.  Weird. I've gotten so use to the two finger scrolling alone that I can't standing using a non-multitouch device any

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Fedora hats, pinstripe suits, wingtip shoes, saying "lets go for a ride" On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Sam wrote: > > I don't. > > BTW, describe Gangster-looking > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

I don't. BTW, describe Gangster-looking On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > they are not mutually-exclusive. > > and im neither right or left wing. > > you're gonna tell me you dont lock your car doors when a gangster-lookin > knuckle-head comes near your car in the dark o

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > they are not mutually-exclusive. > > and im neither right or left wing. > > you're gonna tell me you dont lock your car doors when a gangster-lookin > knuckle-head comes near your car in the dark of night on a lonely street? I don't. Both my

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Vivec wrote: > > First off, I think the claim about surveyor;s marks to be totally laughable, > > And if after posting that map a republican senator was shot at a > political rally we'd be saying the same thing about the democrat's > campaign. No, we wouldn't. Th

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

they are not mutually-exclusive. and im neither right or left wing. you're gonna tell me you dont lock your car doors when a gangster-lookin knuckle-head comes near your car in the dark of night on a lonely street? sure. you see... im MORE REAL. i admit that i do this, and i admit it with ZER

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

First off, I think the claim about surveyor;s marks to be totally laughable, And if after posting that map a republican senator was shot at a political rally we'd be saying the same thing about the democrat's campaign. On 10 January 2011 15:43, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > This map was posted on the

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Interesting read. Here's a link in case the images did not come through: http://boortz.com/nealz_nuze/2011/01/sarah-palins-map.html A great deal has been made of a map that Sarah Palin put on her website The media is particularly pinpointing this entire incident on Sarah Palin

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

"wrongo dongo captain, i am as non-close minded as you can imagine." Sure you are. You admitted you were prejudiced. Now you're open minded. Damn, seems like I have seen a million right wingers say things similar and get crucified for being closed minded. J - When plunder becomes a way of l

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

wrongo dongo captain, i am as non-close minded as you can imagine. i give EVERYONE the option of proving my generalizations incorrect. i give EVERYONE the option of showing me that my prejudice's are wrong. and more times than not, everything i can judge about something or someone from the cover

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

"Do you think that what elected officials say can influence their followers to act violently?" Of course they can. Here are some things President Obama said: *If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.* – June 2008. *I want you to go out and talk to your neighbors… I want you to argue

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Regardless of how logical the connections may have seemed at the time, trying to make those connections with no evidence was premature. I would be lying if, when I saw the headline (not the subject here, I saw 'Democratic' in a headline for one of the news channels as well) I denied that my first

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

"when people stop making my prejudices, and generalizations come true, ill stop generalizing and being prejudice" You are so closed minded. Where's the tolerance? J - No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain The artificial aristocracy is

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

" I never claimed that Palin and her drivel did not influence this guy," Fair enough. However, logically, the connections are not far fetched given the circumstances. In the recent past there has not been a continuous chanting of violent slogans involving guns, reloading and firing again, cross

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

i think it can push someone who's on the edge and devoted, over the proverbial edge. yes. On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Do you think that what elected officials say can influence their > followers to act violently? > > On 10 January 2011 14:55, Scott Stroz wrote: > >> Did I

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

when people stop making my prejudices, and generalizations come true, ill stop generalizing and being prejudice. (Btw, in no way, am i saying color here, im generalizing generalizations and prejudices) On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Do I think they can? Yes. > > That,

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Where did anyone say that? On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > merely that it was not a good idea to jump to that conclusion before > an investigation has even started - though, I am starting to see that > some people think it is OK, so long as it's against republicans. ~~~

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Do I think they can? Yes. That, however, does not mean I think it is acceptable to jump to the conclusions that you and others did as a result of this incident. I never claimed that Palin and her drivel did not influence this guy, merely that it was not a good idea to jump to that conclusion bef

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > very true.  sadly.  somehow, the misguided minority has gained the > loudest voice in our worl ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Cold

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Actually, the first person to blame the rhetoric was the Pima County sheriff. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/10/giffords-shooting-sheriff-rightwing-rhetoric Friends have said Dupnik is a decent man saddened by the state of political debate in his country. "He despises this rightwing or

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

very true. sadly. somehow, the misguided minority has gained the loudest voice in our world. On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Sam wrote: > > All this talk about Palin and the Tea party causing death could also > have a negative impact on someone. make them do something just as > stupid if they

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Do you think that what elected officials say can influence their followers to act violently? On 10 January 2011 14:55, Scott Stroz wrote: > Did I get that right? Or does that only count when it is supposedly > the Republicans doing the 'influencing'? > > I am continually amazed at how seemingly

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

So, I guess we can assume form this that if a Muslim kills a non-muslim (for whatever reason) it is because some other Muslims 'told' him to do it? And you would back me up if, before any investigation had even been started, I made claims that the killer did so because he was influenced by other p

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

All this talk about Palin and the Tea party causing death could also have a negative impact on someone. make them do something just as stupid if they too are off balance. On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > like a college freshman who is not so smart, book-savvy moving into

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

"Second, the fact that the shooter is mentally ill does not mean that his mind and brain exist in a vacuum. When Bill O'Reilly and his ilk on Fox began their attacks on "Tiller the Killer" -- the physician who provided legal abortions until he was gunned down in his church in the name of Jesus --

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

That is not the point. This guy was being labeled a right wing nut job because of the 'rhetoric' when there was absolutely no proof it influenced him in any way...and I am not just talking about Vivec, I am talking about the media and all f people on the left trying to hang this shooting on Palin

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

like a college freshman who is not so smart, book-savvy moving into a new dorm room with an elite student the elite student has a good chance of bringing the not-so-smart guy up with him to his level. give an off-balance kid some feel good kill-the-opposition propaganda, and he will be more likel

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Funny..I do not recall reading a message on this thread disagreeing with you. It is OK to admit you were wrong..really it is..I do it all the time...its refreshing...give it a try On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Rhetoric still needs to be toned down. > Standing by that. >

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Rhetoric still needs to be toned down. Standing by that. On 10 January 2011 14:21, Sam wrote: > > It took you two days to realize you might have jumped to the wrong conclusion? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http:

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

It took you two days to realize you might have jumped to the wrong conclusion? . On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Mental Illness, not ideology probably the greatest factor in the shooting: > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-levin-jd/mental-distress-not-ideol_b_806690.html

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Dude. Should we arrest the rapper who said "187 on an undercover cop" where 187 is an implied incitement to murder? Should we arrest the politician on the right because a person on the left might have taken something they said as a call to murder? Should we worry that the person who says they're g

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Mental Illness, not ideology probably the greatest factor in the shooting: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-levin-jd/mental-distress-not-ideol_b_806690.html "While it is still early, the most prominent emerging accomplice in this attack is for many also the least satisfying: mental illness. U

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

I know, I know. . On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > But Sam...that's different...remember...its liberals, it does not count. > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Sam wrote: >> >> Start here: >> >> http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/10/the-progressive-climate-of-hate-an-i

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

But Sam...that's different...remember...its liberals, it does not count. On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Sam wrote: > > Start here: > > http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/10/the-progressive-climate-of-hate-an-illustrated-primer-2000-2010/ > > . > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Vivec wrote

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Dude..we are talking about inciting violence and then someone > attempting to assassinate a congresswoman! As od right now, there is nothing but speculation connecting the two. > And we are talking about people in Authority, persons running for

Re: Microsoft releasing a Touch Mouse

ooh yeah! maybe gamecenter will do that?? Sent from my iPhone... Don't hate. On Jan 10, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Vivec wrote: > > I think there is a way to transfer your scores and progress from an > iPhone or iPod to a Mac. > > On 10 January 2011 13:08, Ras Tafari wrote: >> >> if it had anythin

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Start here: http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/10/the-progressive-climate-of-hate-an-illustrated-primer-2000-2010/ . On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Whether or not this man was driven by the talk surrounding the > politics, talk by those in authority that use analogies that r

Re: Microsoft releasing a Touch Mouse

I think there is a way to transfer your scores and progress from an iPhone or iPod to a Mac. On 10 January 2011 13:08, Ras Tafari wrote: > > if it had anything new i'd be all over it... but im already up to 5-14 > with 3 full stars on all those levels... > why start over, just because its bigger

Re: Microsoft releasing a Touch Mouse

if it had anything new i'd be all over it... but im already up to 5-14 with 3 full stars on all those levels... why start over, just because its bigger?!?!!? gimme more birds, and new levels and then ill upgrade!! On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Casey Dougall wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at

Re: Microsoft releasing a Touch Mouse

You can get Angry Birds on the PC through the Intel App Store. > > I'm about ready to switch to MBP just for Angry Birds in the Mac App Store. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Dude..we are talking about inciting violence and then someone attempting to assassinate a congresswoman! And we are talking about people in Authority, persons running for public office and who hold public office in government. That's a key difference to groups of extremists just just talking crap

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Re: Microsoft releasing a Touch Mouse

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > > 2 iPads, 2 iPhones, 3 MBP's, AirPort, and all the fixin's. Yee haw. > > y ha > > I'm about ready to switch to MBP just for Angry Birds in the Mac App Store. **

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Nothing new there. > So are many of the comments on DailyKos and Huffington Post. > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:06 AM, Vivec wrote: > > > > One of the media reports also mused that the gunman may have belonged > > to an anti-semitic group. > > I think Maureen, Eric and Denstar have responded su

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

> I just think it utterly ridiculous that anyone would claim the > political rhetoric does not need to be examined and condemned. > Examined and condemned? Yes. A news report can (and should) examine the rhetoric but drawing any connection and/or condemning it is not news - it's commentary. > If

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Which is why I used her religion as my example. Was her religion a major factor in why she was shot? Without any corroborating evidence, such a conclusion is just commentary, not news. Did the shooter have an anti-Democrat or anti-Semitic shirt on? Shout slogans of such a nature? Did he do anythin

Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.

Advocating = telling people to do it euphemism = suggesting without saying to do it advocating != euphemism But I concede the point that the implied avocation to violence can be enough to warrant a focus on her political party if such advocation was readily known and detailed when the focus was a

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