Re: A tale of Romney

2012-01-19 Thread Gruss Gott
You win some you lose some. It was Bains company to do with what they wanted. Would it have lasted on its own without them? Why was it sold to them? On Jan 19, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Dana wrote: > > for what it may be worth, one Florida's experience with Bain Capital does > not support the r

RE: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Eric Roberts
I don't think log run is in their vocabulary... -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 7:07 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL A lot of our gas comes from Canada. Still doesn't mean

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Maureen
A lot of our gas comes from Canada. Still doesn't mean that allowing them to build a pipeline without complying with the rules is a good idea. As with nuclear power, drilling, tar sands or any other process, energy that is not safely produced is not cheap in the long run. But tell that to the g

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Sam
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > I the republicans didn't block the bills for those shovel ready jobs, they > would be there.  Despite all of that he was able to staunch the hemorrhaging > of jobs the economy saw under Bush and get the numbers moving in a positive > direct

RE: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Eric Roberts
That was in the news... -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 6:15 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL this is I think the third time that Leahy has introduced copyright legislation. An

RE: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Eric Roberts
Oil always peaks out in the summer. And that is cheap compared to the rest of the world...If the pipeline was built, are they going to go poof and it is there? It is going to take several years to get it built and inspected before it is even ready to have oil flow through it, It takes about a y

Re: Iran

2012-01-19 Thread Sam
You guys should vote for Paul. He'd probably help them build a nuke. That would probably solve the Israel problem. . On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:02 PM, PT wrote: > > And who is going to pay for another "conflict"? > > Dammit congress, you and your war profiteers .. I mean, companies with > defen

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Sam
http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/07/the-democrats-corruption-problem/ Speaking of corruption . On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > What corruption? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.am

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Dana
what? Can you not get bipartisan through your head, Sam? You're still talking about "Republican issue" I am saying that the current copyright legislation has members of both parties on each side. Issa, for example, is on the right side on this one, and Boxer and Feinstein are not. And Issa is

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Sam
Here here! Or is it Hear Hear? . On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Dana wrote: > > ya? What did she do that was corrupt, supposedly? I have only mildly been > paying attention, but I thought the Republicans mainly thought she was a > bitch, which... well, is an appellation that gets thrown arou

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Sam
http://nation.foxnews.com/nancy-pelosi/2011/11/14/60-minutes-exposes-pelosi-corruption Finally something I agree with, and yet you seem to be attacking for defending Boehner. . On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Maureen wrote: > > There were actually several threads regarding Pelosi and her purp

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Dana
this is I think the third time that Leahy has introduced copyright legislation. And each bill has been worse than the last. I saw a rumor go by on Twitter yesterday that he was trying to work a deal out with Kyl. Have not followed up on that to check it, but the source was mmm, I would say, likely

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Sam
So now you're bi-partisan? What Republican issue did you support that dems were against? . On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Dana wrote: > > Indeed. The whole copyright legislation issue involves both Democrats and > Republican legislators. Opposition and support for these bills is > bipartisan.

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Sam
> Oil prices aren't skyrocketing, and even if they were, this pipeline > would not affect them for decades.  There have been multiple > statements of how many jobs would be created, but even if you accept > the highest estimate of 179,000 jobs by 2035, it would have almost nil > effect on unemploy

RE: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Eric Roberts
Lamar Smith, a republican from Texas (go figure), has promised to bring it back up this spring...so it's not dead...it's zombie legislation... -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 3:08 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: FW: Obama ad

RE: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Eric Roberts
I was shocked...mark Kirk, my republican senator, and I actually agreed the SOPA and PIPA were bad *looking up at the sky for falling objects...* -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 2:59 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: FW: Obama

Re: Iran

2012-01-19 Thread PT
And who is going to pay for another "conflict"? Dammit congress, you and your war profiteers .. I mean, companies with defense contracts, might not care, but we are out of money. So, we start screwing around with Iran. What is the return on that investment? We have them surrounded, their nei

RE: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Eric Roberts
What corruption? -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 2:41 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL This is not about Pelosi. Remember the other thread about Pelosi's corruption? Yeah, we had n

RE: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-19 Thread Eric Roberts
Isn't that supposed to be the mark of Cain or some crap like that? -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:53 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months I saw this on the i

Re: Iran

2012-01-19 Thread Maureen
As long as those in power can profit from war, there will be war. Their ability to use the propaganda machine to create villains has become even more effective with the use of the Internet and 24/7 media. The only way to stop them is to refuse to be their propaganda tool. Don't even say their na

Re: Iran

2012-01-19 Thread Dana
amen On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:47 PM, GMoney wrote: > > > http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/01/18/iran-threatens-us-persian-gulf-cities-with-missile-attacks > > A "nuclear Iran" is the next bogeyman that is being constructed to convince > you that your sons and daughters should be sent t

Iran

2012-01-19 Thread GMoney
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/01/18/iran-threatens-us-persian-gulf-cities-with-missile-attacks A "nuclear Iran" is the next bogeyman that is being constructed to convince you that your sons and daughters should be sent thousands of miles away to die. Please...for the love of all that

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Dana
I agree with the effect of money on elections. However. If it gets to a certain level of egregiousness, action should be taken, such as took place with what's his name, the exterminator from Sugarland. Since she certainly doesn't seem any less disliked than he was, the fact that nothing has been f

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Dana
ya? What did she do that was corrupt, supposedly? I have only mildly been paying attention, but I thought the Republicans mainly thought she was a bitch, which... well, is an appellation that gets thrown around a lot, shall we say. Nonetheless. If there are credible grounds for corruption charges,

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Maureen
Obama's Hollywood contributors aren't the big corporations behind these bills. In fact, a large number of those in the entertainment industry aren't very happy the companies controlling the record labels and film distribution. See recent statements by George Lucas regarding his latest film, and

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Except that House rule 3 clearly states that "members shall vote on each question put, except having a direct personal or pecuniary interest in the event of each question." http://ethics.house.gov/sites/ethics.house.gov/files/fin%20trans%20pink%20sheet.pdf - pp3-4. And they give a very specific

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Maureen
General consensus among the opposition is that she uses her position frequently for financial gain. Lots of mud has been thrown, but no legal action has ever been taken against her. She is probably not lily white, but I would bet a gold dollar that you could not find a single member of any legis

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Dana
check out Obama's campaign contributions from Hollywood. I was worried that he would sign it. Still am, a little. That he had to come out against it is a measure of how bad the bill really is. I am still afraid that while we are looking at the SOPA boogieman, compromise legislation will go through

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Maureen
Absolutely true in this case. I am aghast that Patrick Leahy, who was one of the very few politicians I actually liked, introduced the PIPA bill. Did some serious rethinking of my opinion of him as a result. On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Dana wrote: > > Indeed. The whole copyright legislat

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Maureen
There were actually several threads regarding Pelosi and her purported corruption on the list last summer. No proof however, just accusations as usual. I hate the whole concept of deciding guilt by public opinion, whether the accused is Pelosi or Boehner. Due Process, people. It's there for a

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Dana
Indeed. The whole copyright legislation issue involves both Democrats and Republican legislators. Opposition and support for these bills is bipartisan. The people who spoke up about it yesterday disagree on many other issues. It is possible to decide something is wrong without checking the party l

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Maureen
A sitting Congress cannot vote themselves pay increases, they can only vote an increase for the next Congress, of which they may or may not be part. Just curious. How many pay raises has Congress received over the last 20 years? On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:46 PM, GMoney wrote: > Doesn't Congres

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Maureen
Oil prices aren't skyrocketing, and even if they were, this pipeline would not affect them for decades. There have been multiple statements of how many jobs would be created, but even if you accept the highest estimate of 179,000 jobs by 2035, it would have almost nil effect on unemployment rates

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Dana
you're in charge of finding a reason to start one, Sam. On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Sam wrote: > > This is not about Pelosi. Remember the other thread about Pelosi's > corruption? Yeah, we had none. > > But it's nice to pretend you would care. > > . > > On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Da

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Sam
Your article mention Exxon, ConocoPhillips and Chevron. They are big companies. . On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Not just oil companies, but specifically companies that are partnered > in the Keystone XL project. Like companies who specialize in making > the pipes, o

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Dana
Ah, there are issues with the pipeline route too? I assumed the concerns were around the extraction process. Cause this is tar-sand oil, right? Noted, then, though the main point I was trying to make was even if you don't believe the problem is some sort of attempt at responsible stewardship -- w

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread GMoney
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > When you stand > to make a lot of money as a result of your abuse of office, isn't that > corruption? > I don't know...is it? Are legislators forever required to only vote on issues that guarantee they will LOSE money...? Doesn't Congress

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Sam
The environmental issue have been resolved. Compliance, permits all done. This is about politics and for some reason this admin thinks permanent high unemployment and skyrocketing oil prices is good. Unfortunately many agree with him simply because he's not a Republican. Sad. . On Thu, Jan 19

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Sam
This is not about Pelosi. Remember the other thread about Pelosi's corruption? Yeah, we had none. But it's nice to pretend you would care. . On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Dana wrote: > > but you still stand by saying I want to give the Democrats a pass, huh? > Just wanna correct the failure

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Not just oil companies, but specifically companies that are partnered in the Keystone XL project. Like companies who specialize in making the pipes, or TransCanada etc. In other words he stands to make a substantial profit because of his legislative efforts. When you stand to make a lot of money a

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Maureen
Basically a Canadian firm is trying to build a pipeline through what some say are environmentally sensitive areas of the US without compliance with the permitting process, and members of Congress set what White House claims is an unreasonable deadline for the permit to be issued that does not giv

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Dana
but you still stand by saying I want to give the Democrats a pass, huh? Just wanna correct the failure to crop out what I actually said ;) Sam, you're amazing On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Sam wrote: > > Sorry bad cropping. > take it from here: > > > If Boehner is corrupt, as it would seem

Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-19 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 2:09 PM, GMoney wrote: > Adam was white, but Eve was part African, Hispanic, Asian, Latino, American > Indian > Adam and Eve were Test Tube Babies of Annunaki! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Antholo

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Sam
Sorry bad cropping. take it from here: > If Boehner is corrupt, as it would seem from the little I > > have read about this, then that is bad and he should be prosecuted. . On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Dana wrote: > > I am amused that you cropped down to the paragraph that said Pelosi shou

A tale of Romney

2012-01-19 Thread Dana
for what it may be worth, one Florida's experience with Bain Capital does not support the refrain of job creation: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/01/18/2596300/in-miami-story-of-profits-and.html ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion A

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Dana
I am amused that you cropped down to the paragraph that said Pelosi should be prosecuted if she has done something corrupt, before you accused me of giving the Democrats a pass. I am against corruption. Period. On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Sam wrote: > > Boehner invested in Oil companies,

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Sam
Boehner invested in Oil companies, like most Americans do. Either through 401ks or buying shares. This pipeline will not make the oil companies rich. They will always be rich, it's just another small project for them but a huge one for America. But tar and feather anyone with an R next to their n

Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-19 Thread GMoney
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I saw this on the inner webs the other day: > > 'If Adam and Eve were white, and evolution doesn't exist, where did > black people come from' > Adam was white, but Eve was part African, Hispanic, Asian, Latino, American Indian ~

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Larry C. Lyons
specific evidence please. Not rhetoric like "selling out job creation for votes from the green movement." Is there a specific agreement? Has this been publicized in a reputable newspaper, not world net daily btw. Boehner's involvement is very clear and is mostly there for all to see. His financi

Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-19 Thread Scott Stroz
I saw this on the inner webs the other day: 'If Adam and Eve were white, and evolution doesn't exist, where did black people come from' On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > This is a really cool research project. Scientists started out with > single celled yeast and decided

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Dana
job creation, lol. Don't wear the words out before the general election ;) I am as cynical as the next person, but also willing to consider that perhaps the cost-benefit ratio had a part in the decision. I have not really researched the matter and won't have time to do so, but I have an open mind

Re: FW: Obama administration to reject Keystone XL

2012-01-19 Thread Jerry Barnes
"I was just pointing out the corruption involved on the Republican side." But why didn't you bring out the corruption of the Democrats, particularly President Obama selling out job creation for votes from the green movement. It's okay to be balanced. "The speaker stands to make hundreds of th

Re: just had this forwarded to me - Perry is leaving the nomination campaign.

2012-01-19 Thread Larry C. Lyons
To followup: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/71657.html Perry to drop out, endorse Newt By: Emily Schultheis January 19, 2012 09:29 AM EST CHARLESTON, S.C. — Texas Gov. Rick Perry is expected to end his presidential campaign Thursday and endorse Newt Gingrich, two sources confirm to

just had this forwarded to me - Perry is leaving the nomination campaign.

2012-01-19 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Texas Gov. Rick Perry will end his campaign for the Republican presidential nomination Thursday and endorse Newt Gingrich, POLITICO has confirmed. An announcement is scheduled for 11 a.m. in South Carolina. ~| Order the Adobe Col

Re: Researchers evolve a multicellular yeast in the lab in 2 months

2012-01-19 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I'd go for Douglas Adam's theories, either with the mice or we were populated originally by bureaucrats, hair dressers and telephone disinfectors. On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Dana wrote: > > I like the Terry Pratchett theory -- the time-traveller's ham sandwich in > some primordial pool. >