Re: been a while - vas snip.

2011-12-15 Thread Erika L. Rich
Must be all those mushroom you eat :) Hope you feel better and you start getting better. You'll be ok :) On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 5:20 PM, morchella wrote: > > follow up week 1. > > The procedure was a breeze. three days latter some thing didn't feel right, > called it in. > they double my

Re: been a while - vas snip.

2011-12-15 Thread morchella
follow up week 1. The procedure was a breeze. three days latter some thing didn't feel right, called it in. they double my antibiotics and gave me more (30) oxycodone. oxycodone didn't help at all. 2 every 4 hours. Monday-today i went through minor hell. swelled up to grapefruit proportions. mov

Re: been a while - vas snip.

2011-12-08 Thread Judah McAuley
Yeah, I remember mine running to give me a big tight hug...and she's just that height you know. "Please be careful of Papa's junk for a couple days and let me watch soccer." Yup. Enjoy the weekend and remember to not try to do too much too quick and you should be fine. Cheers, Judah On Thu, D

Re: been a while - vas snip.

2011-12-08 Thread Tony
happy sac! On Thursday, December 8, 2011, morchella wrote: > > and we are done. > was really nothing. not sure why i was so freaked out. > Hardest part was coming home, and having daughter wanting me to swing her > around. > > > ~

Re: been a while - vas snip.

2011-12-08 Thread morchella
and we are done. was really nothing. not sure why i was so freaked out. Hardest part was coming home, and having daughter wanting me to swing her around. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-C

Re: been a while - vas snip.

2011-12-08 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
I have an urge to just curl up in a dark room, and cuddle and talk to mine. It's a scary world out there for testicular-Americans. On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Are you doing a live broadcast? :) > > Good luck to you and your balls, dude. > > ~~

Re: been a while - vas snip.

2011-12-08 Thread Judah McAuley
Are you doing a live broadcast? :) Good luck to you and your balls, dude. Cheers, Judah On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Paul Ihrig wrote: > > 4 minutes and counting.  Valium is interesting. > On Nov 23, 2011 6:34 PM, "Judah McAuley" wrote: > >> >> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 8:42 AM, GMoney wrot

Re: been a while - vas snip.

2011-12-08 Thread Paul Ihrig
4 minutes and counting. Valium is interesting. On Nov 23, 2011 6:34 PM, "Judah McAuley" wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 8:42 AM, GMoney wrote: > > > >> Of course she could just have *her* tubes tied... > >> > > > > That's an operation on par with the guy's operation though, isn't it? I > wa

Re: been a while - vas snip.

2011-11-23 Thread Judah McAuley
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 8:42 AM, GMoney wrote: > >> Of course she could just have *her* tubes tied... >> > > That's an operation on par with the guy's operation though, isn't it? I was > just trying to think of something that was easier, nearly as affective, and > probably cheaper. > Tubal ligat

Re: RE: been a while - vas snip.

2011-11-23 Thread LRS Scout
Had mine in 2006. We both got fixed, turned out to be a good thing with the move and divorce. Only one baby mama I ever have to worry about. Now I just wish I could see my kids more. Hey community how you been? On Nov 22, 2011 7:33 PM, "Eric Roberts" wrote: ouch -Original Message

RE: been a while - vas snip.

2011-11-22 Thread Eric Roberts
ouch -Original Message- From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 11:57 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: been a while - vas snip. For us, the IUD was the best route until I'm ready to get the snip. The IUD is still not 100% and there&#x

RE: been a while - vas snip.

2011-11-22 Thread Eric Roberts
, 2011 8:54 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: been a while - vas snip. Did it almost a year ago. You have to be ready for a lot of handling of your junk by the nurse and docs, and discomfort during the procedure, but nothing too bad. It has no effect on your "manliness" or testosterone o

RE: been a while - vas snip.

2011-11-22 Thread Eric Roberts
No it doesn't...all the tubes the carry the testosterone and other hormones are still intact. -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 8:38 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: been a while - vas snip. My brother had it done, t

RE: been a while - vas snip.

2011-11-22 Thread Eric Roberts
back together and wallah...you are no longer shooting blanks. If this hasn't happened after the second analysis, you are good. Eric -Original Message- From: morchella [mailto:morchella.delici...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 7:43 PM To: cf-community Subject: been a while

Re: been a while - vas snip.

2011-11-22 Thread Medic
For us, the IUD was the best route until I'm ready to get the snip. The IUD is still not 100% and there's other considerations which still make it a risk to a woman's health (I'll explain in a moment), but it's about the safest for our situation. The pill, for a woman over 30 who's used it for yea

Re: been a while - vas snip.

2011-11-22 Thread Erika L. Rich
Darn close != 100% :) And if were "me" I'd want 100%. Full stop. And I understand/understood your points :) On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:42 AM, GMoney wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Erika L. Rich > wrote: > > > > > It may be, but you are also asking for a risk because it is not

Re: been a while - vas snip.

2011-11-22 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > > It may be, but you are also asking for a risk because it is not 100% :) > It's as effective as the pill, if I remember right...and the pill generally only fails because of human error...so it's pretty darn close to 100%. > Also - horm

Re: been a while - vas snip.

2011-11-22 Thread Erika L. Rich
It may be, but you are also asking for a risk because it is not 100% :) Also - hormones, possibility of side effects, etc etc etc Of course she could just have *her* tubes tied... On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 8:44 AM, GMoney wrote: > > Not to intrude too much but, women's contraception is consider

Re: been a while - vas snip.

2011-11-22 Thread GMoney
Not to intrude too much but, women's contraception is considerably easier, and probably cheaper.lasts about the same length of time, and is much easier to reverse. Have you considered that? It's what we did. My wife said it was pretty much like a normal office visit. Your girl has to be able

Re: been a while - vas snip.

2011-11-21 Thread morchella
very cool. thanks for the response. go in Tuesday for talk to urologist. am going to schedule proc at earliest window. i hope i can talk them into giving me nitrous. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazo

Re: been a while - vas snip.

2011-11-19 Thread Ray Champagne
Did it almost a year ago. You have to be ready for a lot of handling of your junk by the nurse and docs, and discomfort during the procedure, but nothing too bad. It has no effect on your "manliness" or testosterone or anything remotely like that. <1% or so of guys that get it done have a perma

Re: been a while - vas snip.

2011-11-18 Thread Maureen
My brother had it done, then a divorce and remarriage later, had it undone. He now has two awesome kids by the new wife. But putting some wigglers in cold storage also not a bad idea. Can't imagine how it would affect you feeling manly as it doesn't impact testosterone levels, or performance.

Re: been a while - vas snip.

2011-11-18 Thread Erika L. Rich
Thought you did this already? You'll be fine. Just be sure you don't want anymore kids. It is easily reversed within 5 years and even after and up to 30 in some cases ... but it is better to REALLY know that neither of you want anymore. :) Maybe you could freeze some wigglies in the event you mi

been a while - vas snip.

2011-11-18 Thread morchella
so i just put in papers to get snipped. little nervous. meet the docs in a week or so. worried i wont feel manly after, like i feel manly now.. any one here have it. if so any one regret it? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Antholo

Re: hello, hello, it's been a while ...

2007-10-24 Thread Erika L. Walker
Gel. Get with it will you. Some kind of accounting. Anything. Quickbooks online here. On 10/24/07, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 0_0 > > On 10/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > First, I'd like to thank many of the fellow CFers in this commun

RE: hello, hello, it's been a while ...

2007-10-24 Thread Shawna Hampton
www.freshbooks.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:17 PM To: CF-Community Subject: hello, hello, it's been a while ... First, I'd like to thank many of the fellow CFers in this communit

Re: hello, hello, it's been a while ...

2007-10-24 Thread Vivec
0_0 On 10/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First, I'd like to thank many of the fellow CFers in this community who have > been helpfu to me in one way or another ... long story short, I have a > question for consultants and solo contractors, how do you

hello, hello, it's been a while ...

2007-10-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
First, I'd like to thank many of the fellow CFers in this community who have been helpfu to me in one way or another ... long story short, I have a question for consultants and solo contractors, how do you record your billing hours and create invoices? spreadsheet plus some formula? or? Person

RE: Been a while...

2007-06-22 Thread James Smith
> However, Bananaphone is still my favorite That has been my ringtone for a while now, really annoys people when I just let it ring ;) -- Jay ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Up

Re: Been a while...

2007-06-20 Thread Rick Root
On 6/20/07, James Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just to brighten up your day... > > http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php they don't have enough ads on their page, use mine instead ;) http://www.webworksllc.com/Llamasong.cfm However, Bananaphone is still my favorite http://www.we

Re: Been a while...

2007-06-20 Thread Wayne Putterill
You are eevil, pure vil... And no, I didn't even need to go there. doesn't even seem to work :( On 20/06/07, James Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just to brighten up your day... > > http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php > > Have fun getting that out of your head

Been a while...

2007-06-20 Thread James Smith
Just to brighten up your day... http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php Have fun getting that out of your head today. Now be honest, how many of you started hearing the song just by looking at the URL ;) -- Jay ~| Co

Re: 'cause it's been a while

2006-12-22 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
Heh, I did one of those with my son's face ;) He's too cute! On 12/22/06, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > elf your self! > http://www.elfyourself.com/?userid=6811f1a32b2b53e3630aa5eG06122108 > > i cant see it at work. > must have a video in it. > but my wife said it was cool. > you can r

Re: 'cause it's been a while

2006-12-22 Thread Paul Ihrig
elf your self! http://www.elfyourself.com/?userid=6811f1a32b2b53e3630aa5eG06122108 i cant see it at work. must have a video in it. but my wife said it was cool. you can replace the head with your own pic.. ~| Create robust enterp

RE: 'cause it's been a while

2006-12-22 Thread Mike Tangorre
-Original Message- From: James Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php FUCK! NO! DON'T CLICK LINK! ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion

Re: 'cause it's been a while

2006-12-22 Thread Scott Stroz
And one for the holiday season: http://www.americanangst.com/dingfries.html On 12/22/06, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, as long as we're posting the classics... > > www.webworksllc.com/Bananaphone.cfm > > > ~| C

Re: 'cause it's been a while

2006-12-22 Thread Rick Root
Well, as long as we're posting the classics... www.webworksllc.com/Bananaphone.cfm ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?htt

Re: 'cause it's been a while

2006-12-22 Thread Paul Ihrig
man. i love the interweb ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Arch

Re: 'cause it's been a while

2006-12-22 Thread Wayne Putterill
No, nononononon NOO I didn't even go to the site, just seeing the link did it for me. must repress the song... On 22/12/06, James Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php > > -- > James Smith - IT Director > uWish Ltd - http://www.uWish.co.uk > >

'cause it's been a while

2006-12-22 Thread James Smith
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php -- James Smith - IT Director uWish Ltd - http://www.uWish.co.uk ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.ne

Re: Been a while... what are you listening to?

2006-02-08 Thread DRE
I found a really cool station called bagel radio.http://bagelradio.com/. indie alternative rock. On 2/6/06, Andrew Grosset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Radio Paradise > > http://www.radioparadise.com/ > > ~| Message: http://ww

Re: Been a while... what are you listening to?

2006-02-06 Thread Andrew Grosset
Radio Paradise http://www.radioparadise.com/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:196008 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/li

RE: Been a while... what are you listening to?

2006-02-06 Thread Erika L. Walker
Alanis Morisette ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:196003 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http:/

Re: Been a while... what are you listening to?

2006-02-06 Thread Jerry Johnson
The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny - Lemon Demon On 2/6/06, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My Morning Jacket - Z ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:196002 Archives: http://www.house

Re: Been a while... what are you listening to?

2006-02-06 Thread Tony
ESPN Radio with Erik Kuselias nice. On 2/6/06, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My Morning Jacket - Z > > On 2/6/06, Jillian Koskie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Radio Song - REM > > ~| Message: http://www.houseo

Re: Been a while... what are you listening to?

2006-02-06 Thread Cameron Childress
My Morning Jacket - Z On 2/6/06, Jillian Koskie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Radio Song - REM ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:195998 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscr

Re: Been a while... what are you listening to?

2006-02-06 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Audible Ajax Podcast # 10 On 2/6/06, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Radio Song - REM > > Live 365 - Delicious LoFi Lounge > > will > -- > > "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; > and that would just be unacceptable." > - Carrie Fisher > > ~~

Re: Been a while... what are you listening to?

2006-02-06 Thread William Bowen
> Radio Song - REM Live 365 - Delicious LoFi Lounge will -- "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:195

Been a while... what are you listening to?

2006-02-06 Thread Jillian Koskie
Radio Song - REM ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:195993 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://w

Re: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Dana
Santa's relationship with the > religious aspects of Christmas. I'd like to know. > > Yes, it is time for a Beer > > > -Original Message- > From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 1:32 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re:

Re: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Dana
whoa, Ken joins the dark side ;)b Dana > I like the its doable argument. What country can't we take? Saudi's have > little defense and lots of oil maybe we should consider them next. It would > be in our best interest to have lots of cheap oil. ~~~

RE: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 6:03 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: been a while since we talked politics > > Well the 25th might have been a pagan holiday but Santa came from > Saint Nicholas of My

Re: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Sam
Well the 25th might have been a pagan holiday but Santa came from Saint Nicholas of Myra, a 4th century bishop. His day was December 6th but he's now celebrated on the 25th. Still very Christian. You could associate him with the Nordic God Odin, but then I wouldn't celebrate him either :) On 5/6

RE: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Ken Ketsdever
L PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 1:32 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: been a while since we talked politics I was never taught to believe in Santa. Santa is only universal to Christians. I realize you don't want me to bring up religion but do you realize Christmas is religious hol

RE: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Ken Ketsdever
Tony Blair is little more than Bush's bitch. Who acted on their own to join us without being bought off, bribed, or coerced? If you don't care what Sudan or Syria thinks what difference does central Europe make? Seems to me that the powers to be are: USA UK France Germany Japan Russia Chin

RE: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 4:32 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: been a while since we talked politics > > I was never taught to believe in Santa. Santa is only universal to > Christians. > I r

Re: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Sam
I was never taught to believe in Santa. Santa is only universal to Christians. I realize you don't want me to bring up religion but do you realize Christmas is religious holiday? Santa comes on Christmas? Doesn't he represent the three Kings bringing gifts or something like that? Time for a beer y

RE: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Ken Ketsdever
To: CF-Community Subject: Re: been a while since we talked politics On 5/6/05, Ken Ketsdever wrote: > Sam that is a crock of shit. I'd rather talk about beer :) > Hmm do we know there isn't a Santa Claus? Just because your mom and Dad said > they were playing that role for

Re: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> Ken wrote: > Who said anything about not getting involved in the first Gulf War. That was > legitimate. > Iraq invaded another country. At that time we would have been justified > rolling into > Baghdad and initiating a regime change. But not 10 years later. Not Not to mention that we

RE: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Ken Ketsdever
Who said anything about not getting involved in the first Gulf War. That was legitimate. Iraq invaded another country. At that time we would have been justified rolling into Baghdad and initiating a regime change. But not 10 years later. Not when he had dismantled his programs.Not when

Re: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Sam
On 5/6/05, Ken Ketsdever wrote: > Sam that is a crock of shit. I'd rather talk about beer :) > Hmm do we know there isn't a Santa Claus? Just because your mom and Dad said > they were playing that role for the first 10 years of your life do we really > know he doesn't exist? Maybe he doesn't

RE: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Robert Munn
And you think that Al Qaeda would never have attacked anywhere in the Middle East if we had just not invaded Iraq, is that it? That's just factually wrong. Khobar Towers? The U.S.S. Cole? You think these events were flukes? Al Qaeda was in the middle of a global onslaught against the U.S. Sinc

RE: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Ken Ketsdever
Sam that is a crock of shit. Even the Bush administration has admitted there are and probably where no WMDs. How many scientists have were interrogated, err.. I mean interviewed? Nobody has been able to come up with any evidence of a program beyond the dismantled program of the early 1990's.

Re: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Jim Campbell
This clock is only right once a day: http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/clocks/3110.html - Jim Gruss Gott wrote: >>Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>OK, didn't you argue bicycle lanes are pork and a few weeks later say >>it was a great idea to cut down on fuel use? >> >> > >1.) It appear

Re: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, didn't you argue bicycle lanes are pork and a few weeks later say > it was a great idea to cut down on fuel use? 1.) It appears that you don't understand what Pork is, and while I'm too lazy to explain it all to you, I'll point out that just because something

Re: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> Robert wrote: > You might not, but the South Koreans sure do, at least the ones who still > remember I have no doubt that Iraq may turn out as well as South Korea, meaning it could become a thriving democracy with a robust economy that is both a beacon and a model to its neighbors. In the Midd

Re: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Sam
OK, didn't you argue bicycle lanes are pork and a few weeks later say it was a great idea to cut down on fuel use? No matter what he does he's wrong in your eyes so who cares. On 5/6/05, Gruss Gott wrote: > Lordy, if you're still trying to argue that Mr. Bush has been a good > steward of our coun

Re: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Dana
you honestly think they're going to respond? This is the administration that still doesn't admit that Dick Cheney met with Ken Lay five years ago, lol. And no, it doesn't, but since this is the Prime Minister being briefed on "talks" and the Attorney-General is quoted in a way that implies a meeti

RE: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Robert Munn
The U.N. is not a global government. It has no authority over anything. It owns no territory. It has no citizens. It possesses no resources other than what it's members give it. At best it is a useful tool to help nations dialogue with each other and solve problems. At worst it is a debating soc

Re: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Sam
I'll wait for the administrations response. It doesn't quote Bush. Looks like Dearlove assessment but doesn't mention he spoke to in the US. On 5/6/05, Dana wrote: > "Bush > wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the > conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence

Re: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Or the glass is half full :) > > CBO: Deficit may fall below $400B Lordy, if you're still trying to argue that Mr. Bush has been a good steward of our country's resources, well, that ship sailed years ago. Mr. Bush is one of the worst spenders in history and his current economic a

Re: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Dana
"Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy. --big snip-- It seemed clear that Bush had made up his mind to take military action, even if the timing was not yet decided

Re: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Robert Munn
You might not, but the South Koreans sure do, at least the ones who still remember the war. >G wrote: >Oh, and in no way would I include "Korea" in your list of successful US >endeavors > > >> ~| Discover CFTicket - The le

Re: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Robert Munn
I'm sorry, Dana, I just do not see anywhere it the article where it says, "The President knows this is all bullshit but he is going ahead anyway." Where is that quote, exactly? >Dana wrote: >the fact is that the President of the United >States stood up in from of the United Nations and made sta

Re: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Dana
I agree with your position, however, according to the memo obtained by Greg Palast, posted above, he DID know it. It's a bit long and dry, but it says that the evidence is being created to justify the invasion. Before the invasion. This is not really news to anyone who has read Bob Woodward's book

Re: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Sam
Or the glass is half full :) CBO: Deficit may fall below $400B http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7BBABDE313%2D2D56%2D4DAA%2D9D76%2D8E82ADB9CF11%7D&siteid=mktw Jobs growth surprisingly robust in April http://www.forbes.com/newswire/2004/05/07/rtr1363551.html Snow says U.S. on track

Re: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread G
I've got a guess on that: Because many people that are reaching the age where they are beginning to engage in political discourse are either: 1) Children of the protest era or 2) Children of parents of the protest era. Keep in mind though that many of these people had good reason to protest, an

Re: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread G
> Sam ;) > > I had a feeling we would hear from you on this. Gonna have to check > the Washington Post article, but even assuming it's quoted accurately > and that's all true, the fact is that the President of the United > States stood up in from of the United Nations and made statements on > behal

Re: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Robert Munn
No, more like what people said about our involvement in WWI, WWII, and Korea. Good thing we showed up when we did. Why is it that some people can only remember events after 1960? Like there was no history before Vietnam. > Michael wrote: > Twenty years from now we are all going to be saying w

Re: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Dana
Sam ;) I had a feeling we would hear from you on this. Gonna have to check the Washington Post article, but even assuming it's quoted accurately and that's all true, the fact is that the President of the United States stood up in from of the United Nations and made statements on behalf of this co

Re: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread G
I think it's a completely fair assessment to say that Al-Qaeda now views the fight over Iraq as THE premier battle of their ideals vs. the free worlds. This pre-occupation would certainly make it harder if not impossible to plan another large scale attack on American soil. In that sense, Bush h

Re: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Sam
Hmmm do we know there were no WMD? Didn't I hear they might be in Syria but it's too dangerous to check? The war on terror seems to have paid off: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/5/1/135511.shtml Sunday, May 1, 2005 1:48 p.m. EDT Wash. Post: Iraq War Kept U.S. Safe In a stunning admissio

Re: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Dana
to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 11:05 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: been a while since we talked politics > > And if our reasons are so humanitarian why are we not in Darfur, hmm? > Just pointing out the inconsistency. &g

RE: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Dawson, Michael
" look while in the Florida classroom when he got the news. M!ke -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 11:05 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: been a while since we talked politics And if our reasons are so humanitarian why are we not i

Re: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Dana
And if our reasons are so humanitarian why are we not in Darfur, hmm? Just pointing out the inconsistency. Dana > I can come up with three: > WMD > Terrorist ties > Evil Dictator ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your compa

RE: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Ken Ketsdever
>>Twenty years from now we are all going to be saying what a good thing it was >>that the U.S. kicked Saddam out of Iraq and helped Iraqi democracy to >>flourish. I'm not concerned about polls saying that most people in the U.S. >>and Europe think the war was not worth it. Most people can't see

Re: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> Robert wrote: > Twenty years from now we are all going to be saying what a good thing it was > that the U.S. And those that can afford it will probably trying to move there because much of this country will be broke; luckily though we'll be gay marriage free.

Re: been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Michael Bramwell
From: "Robert Munn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 3:12 PM Subject: been a while since we talked politics > I just don't see what the smoking gun is. We all knew that war was coming, > and for my part, I was very clear on the

been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-06 Thread Robert Munn
I just don't see what the smoking gun is. We all knew that war was coming, and for my part, I was very clear on the fact that WMD was only a part of why we were going to war. It just happened to be the issue that Bush thought he could sell to the U.S. public. And it turned out to be bad info. T

been a while since we talked politics

2005-05-05 Thread Dana
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