Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:30 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: I think the point is that we are causing change at such a rapid rate that they won't be able to adapt. Some change is slow. Some change is fast. Giant asteroid colliding with the planet was fast and

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Larry C. Lyons
you change conclusions as more data come in. That's basic science, nothing is carved onto stone tablets. It looks like the Arctic sea will be ice free in a few years. This year the surface of Greenland Ice cap was the consistency of a 7-11 slurpie according to one scientist. The last decade was

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Sam
http://www.livescience.com/25907-alaska-climate-pdo.html whatever . On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: you change conclusions as more data come in. That's basic science, nothing is carved onto stone tablets. It looks like the Arctic sea will be

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.livescience.com/25907-alaska-climate-pdo.html This article states that 1) Climate Change (warming specifically in this case) is very real and has been impacting Alaska very heavily for decades. 2) A weather pattern is

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Sam
Not at all. It claims climate change is real while telling you to ignore the facts behind the curtain ie Alaska and Siberia are the coldest they've been in decades. Let's make an exception to only explain this away and never use that same exception for anything else. As Larry states,

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread GMoney
Well, what new conclusions do you want to draw from these isolated areas of exception? On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Not at all. It claims climate change is real while telling you to ignore the facts behind the curtain ie Alaska and Siberia are the

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Not at all. It claims climate change is real Right... Okay. Again, your link while telling you to ignore the facts behind the curtain ie Alaska and Siberia are the coldest they've been in decades. Nowhere does is

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Sam
Not isolated areas, unless you can consider Alaska and Siberia a tiny exception. It clearly states temperature is cyclical and not only has warming paused for 16 years, it's now on a 20 year cold cycle. But global warming is still real, except when it's not. . On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:11 AM,

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Larry C. Lyons
From an interesting analysis of papers published in peer reviewed scientific journals that have looked at global warming: 24 of the 13,950 articles, 0.17% or 1 in 581, clearly reject global warming or endorse a cause other than CO2 emissions for observed warming. The list of articles that reject

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Sam
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Not at all. It claims climate change is real Right... Okay. Again, your link ... while confirming it's not. I forget I need to spell everything

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Sam
Stop flaunting your ignorance. . On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: From an interesting analysis of papers published in peer reviewed scientific journals that have looked at global warming: 24 of the 13,950 articles, 0.17% or 1 in 581, clearly

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I wish you would question these so called scientists as much as you question religious folks. It really is amazing. The level of delusion and suspension of reality you represent on so many levels. I am not really here to debate

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Answer the question then, given the vast weight of data, why do you think that there is no global warming? An interesting preso on the topic by the scientist I previously cited, it ties in current research from some very different fields of study, all of which points towards human caused global

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Jerry Barnes
On climate change, does anyone know what followed the two recent ice ages? I'll help you: Global Warming. J - Protection of the environment has become the principal tool for attack against the West and all it stands for. Protection of the environment may be used as a pretext to adopt a

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Larry C. Lyons
BTW try discussing the issue instead of spewing insults. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Stop flaunting your ignorance. . On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: From an interesting analysis of papers published in peer

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Larry C. Lyons
And if you look at the environmental chaos that occurred after the last one, we are in for some interesting times, in the sense of the old Chinese curse. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: On climate change, does anyone know what followed the two recent

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Self brainwashing maybe, but OI! On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I wish you would question these so called scientists as much as you question religious folks. It really is

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Sam
None of your silly articles prove global warming is man made and most of the handful of people that wrote the multiple articles that they also reviewed have admitted global warming as they defined it has stopped. Sixteen years ago. . On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Larry C. Lyons

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Sam
Was that tidbit peer reviewed? . On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: On climate change, does anyone know what followed the two recent ice ages? I'll help you: Global Warming. ~| Order

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Sam
You really are in love with yourself aren't you? I can't wait until you grow up and realize you know much less than you think you do. . On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.com wrote: I wish you would question these so called scientists as much as you question

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Larry C. Lyons
if global warming is a hoax, then why was the first decade of this century the warmest on record? Why are twice as many high-temperature records being set as low-temperature records? Why is spring starting earlier and fall later? Why are glaciers, Arctic sea ice, Greenland and Antarctica melting

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Larry C. Lyons
From http://www.jamespowell.org/Blog/Blog.php?id=3223808278669646293 Are Humans Causing Global Warming? Ask Floyd Landis. Sat, Apr 21 2012 11:30 | Permalink Blog Post for Columbia University Press The earth is warming. But can we be sure that humans are the cause? Yes. The same way cycling

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: You really are in love with yourself aren't you? I can't wait until you grow up and realize you know much less than you think you do. Continued awesomeness. -Cameron ...

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Sam
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: if global warming is a hoax, then why was the first decade of this century the warmest on record? It's not, remember the unexplained pause started 16 years ago. Why are twice as many high-temperature records being

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Sam
Wow, that was really dumb. So, he proved global warming is man made because we have more man made carbon? Science is getting too easy. . On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: From http://www.jamespowell.org/Blog/Blog.php?id=3223808278669646293 Are

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Scott Stroz
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote: if global warming is a hoax, then why was the first decade of this century the warmest on record? Why are twice as many high-temperature records being set as low-temperature records? Why is spring starting earlier

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Sam
Fixed! On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: Silly Larry...since 2000 Alaska is reporting some of the coldest winters on record and Siberia is experiencing it's coldest winter since 1938, therefore there is no global warming. /sarcasm .

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Scott Stroz
You do realize that Siberia and Alaska do not make up the entire globe, right? On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Fixed! On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: Silly Larry...since 2000 Alaska is reporting some of the coldest

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Sam
Are you sure? . On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: You do realize that Siberia and Alaska do not make up the entire globe, right? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Scott Stroz
Pretty sure, yea, but I will consult a globe to be certain. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Are you sure? . On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: You do realize that Siberia and Alaska do not make up the entire globe,

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Jerry Barnes
Was that tidbit peer reviewed? No. Gives it more credibility. It actually matches what happened. Most peer reviewed items are reviewed by a bunch of cronies. Here's an interesting tidbit. Take it for what it is worth: Man-made global warming: even the IPCC admits the jig is up (

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Sam
Let's pretend your right. jk We know the world is much hotter now because North America is a little warmer than we expect it to be, so we're told. The Arctic is melting so fast we'll be underwater before Al Gore sells his tv station. Ooops, scrap that. Now, we're told the largest portion of the

RE: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Eric Roberts
That is weather...not climate... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 8:11 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News http://www.livescience.com/25907-alaska-climate-pdo.html

RE: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Eric Roberts
He probably read the title and that is it. -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 8:29 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Sam

RE: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Eric Roberts
Subject: Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News Not at all. It claims climate change is real while telling you to ignore the facts behind the curtain ie Alaska and Siberia are the coldest they've been in decades. Let's make an exception to only explain this away and never use

RE: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Eric Roberts
It's a socialist/fascist/muslim (did I miss anything) conspiracy Larry...didn't you know? -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:00 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth

RE: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread LRS Scout
: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:00 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News if global warming is a hoax, then why was the first decade of this century the warmest on record? Why are twice

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Larry C. Lyons
[mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:00 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News if global warming is a hoax, then why was the first decade of this century the warmest on record? Why are twice as many high

RE: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-03 Thread Eric Roberts
heheh -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 2:31 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News So WW2? Cause these things don't happen right? Go spend some time reading about

Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
http://news.discovery.com/animals/dinosaur-farts-120507.html Any bets now that the climate change deniers are going to claim that this warming event didn't happen either. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-02 Thread GMoney
Oh it happened...and the animals evolved and adjusted to survive and thrive, until the fireball wiped them out many years later (if that theory is accurate). Point is, dinosaurs caused their own world to warm, just as we are doing...and they survived it just fineas will we. Claiming there is

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-02 Thread Sam
But.. the same people that said there is global warming also said it stopped 16 years ago. What do you tell them? . On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 12:33 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: Claiming there is no global warming, or that we are not contributing to it...simply isn't reasonable given

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-02 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 12:33 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: However, claiming that this global warming will inevitably destroy us...doesn't seem to be supported by historical facts either. Life is amazingly resilient. 100% agree. The relatively quick warming event of this century

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-02 Thread Vivec
Yes but what quality of life? If we kill off several hundred species, if we cannot afford to feed ourselves? When tigers, lions, rhinos, polar bears, shark , Tuna and others go extinct? The earth will go on. Even if a asteroid obliterates life on the planet, the earth will go on. World without

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-02 Thread GMoney
I'm not certain of ANYTHING...just as climate doomsdayers shouldn't be certain of anything either. Yeah, climate change may fuck us up MUCH worse than it did the dino's. Butdoes that really seem the most likely outcome? I don't think so. Seriously though, if you want to wring your hands and

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-02 Thread Jerry Barnes
I'm not certain of ANYTHING...just as climate doomsdayers shouldn't be certain of anything either. Nice. Seriously though, if you want to wring your hands and worry like crazy over the quality of life of your grandchildren and great grandchildren, i can think of hundreds of MUCH more pressing

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-02 Thread LRS Scout
Ain't freedom grand? On Jan 2, 2013 4:32 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not certain of ANYTHING...just as climate doomsdayers shouldn't be certain of anything either. Nice. Seriously though, if you want to wring your hands and worry like crazy over the quality of life

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-02 Thread Vivec
I have seen that internet meme style posting several times. So...I'm really not sure Facebook closed anyone's account over it. On 2 January 2013 17:32, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: On the issue of gun ownership/gun censorship, did anyone see were facebook locked an account for

Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-02 Thread Jerry Barnes
I have seen that internet meme style posting several times. So...I'm really not sure Facebook closed anyone's account over it. Ehhh, whatever. You can click on the link below and read about it or not: http://www.naturalnews.com/038484_Gandhi_quote_Facebook_censorship.html J - No government

RE: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient Earth : Discovery News

2013-01-02 Thread Eric Roberts
I think the point is that we are causing change at such a rapid rate that they won't be able to adapt. -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 12:08 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Dinosaur Farts May Have Warmed Ancient