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"Perhaps, but likely no more than that naive fools on the other side who were slobbering over Caribou Barbie." Sure there were. That really goes without saying. And there were others who actually liked her. "Who is Peggy Joseph, and why should I care what she says? I've never heard of her,

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yeah? I'll check it out. On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Great story about it in this month's issue of Rolling Stone. > > On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Dana wrote: >> >> yeah, and what happened in Mendocino County can't be described as >> anything but harmful, I agree. >>

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Great story about it in this month's issue of Rolling Stone. On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Dana wrote: > > yeah, and what happened in Mendocino County can't be described as > anything but harmful, I agree. > >> I actively despise what the Obama administration is doing to the >> medical mariju

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yeah, and what happened in Mendocino County can't be described as anything but harmful, I agree. > I actively despise what the Obama administration is doing to the > medical marijuana collectives out here, and while I might hold my nose > and vote for him simply because of that lack of better cho

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, anti-immigrant, anti-civil rights, > corporatist, Randian dystopian views > > -Original Message- > From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 2:15 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: FW: Report: Paul approved racist portions of n

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: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 2:15 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: FW: Report: Paul approved racist portions of newsletters On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "The opposition would have a much better chance of defeati

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On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "The opposition would have a much better chance of defeating Obama if they > would stop quoting sound bites from the bobble-heads that put > forth the assumption that we are all naive fools who fell for anything > resembling > "Hope and Ch

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"The opposition would have a much better chance of defeating Obama if they would stop quoting sound bites from the bobble-heads that put forth the assumption that we are all naive fools who fell for anything resembling "Hope and Change" and did an analysis of the real reasons he won" Of course ev

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On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > Kind of like falling for "Hope and Change". The opposition would have a much better chance of defeating Obama if they would stop quoting sound bites from the bobble-heads that put forth the assumption that we are all naive fools who fell

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" Of course, manufactured controversy is so much easier and more fun, right?" Whatever. I really don't care about the statement in and of itself. Just the double standard. That is, progressives get a pass while those who are not get excoriated for things not even remotely as offensive as this.

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"You are conflating my posts with Larry's post. I did not say" I am not trying to merge you and Larry together. Just saving space. You are nothing like Larry. While you might not agree with another side, you at least try to contemplate it. Likewise, you refrain from making sweeping accusatio

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To: cf-community Subject: Re: FW: Report: Paul approved racist portions of newsletters Ron Paul was involved in the publication of the newsletter that went out under his name. Obama did not. End of story. On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "False equivalence. W

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: cf-community Subject: Re: FW: Report: Paul approved racist portions of newsletters So, back to the racism issue. If Ron Paul is responsible for racist comments distributed by employee approximately 20 years ago, is President Obama responsible for the racist comments distributed by one his

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In the context of the entire convo...no. He was commenting on something McCain said...responding that is all they have to offer Hispanics... I also didn't see why the Taco comment by the mayor was racist either... On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "The bottom line, and

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Jerry, did you bother reading the Dana Milbank article that the tweet was about? The Chimichanga reference is a quote from John McCain. Here's the text from the article: "Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) spoke about the wonders of his state. 'The lettuce in your salad this month almost certainly came f

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On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Exactly how is that comment racist by any conventional definition of the > word?" > > You don't believe it's racist? Nope. Perhaps not politically correct, but not racist. > > How about changing the context just a little. > > Chit'lins

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"The bottom line, and you know it to be true, is that any Republican or Republican proxy would be excoriated for this. That is not right." Maureen, I found just such an example: http://minx.cc/?post=326726 Chimichanga? Is anyone really offended?

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"Exactly how is that comment racist by any conventional definition of the word?" You don't believe it's racist? How about changing the context just a little. Chit'lins? It may be the only thing Republicans have left to offer Blacks, Is that racist? Maybe racism doesn't exist if it is directe

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It's not really that clear cut. Jim Messina was hired by Obama to run his reelection campaign. He, perhaps more than anyone else, speaks for Obama the candidate. If he says something improper then Obama needs to hold him responsible. But that tweet is a tempest in a teapot - a thoughtless use

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Ron Paul was involved in the publication of the newsletter that went out under his name. Obama did not. End of story. On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "False equivalence. What you are referring to was never sent out in Obama's > name unlike Ron Paul." > > > I got it.  Si

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Exactly how is that comment racist by any conventional definition of the word? What exactly do the Republicans have to offer Hispanic voters? That would seem to be the real question behind all the red herring nonsense that is being bantered about. On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 5:51 AM, Jerry Barnes

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"False equivalence. What you are referring to was never sent out in Obama's name unlike Ron Paul." I got it. Since it wasn't in Obama's name, it's okay for him to send out racists messages. That is, it is okay for Obama to hire and work with racists or people who propagate a racist messages.

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False equivalence. What you are referring to was never sent out in Obama's name unlike Ron Paul. On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > So, back to the racism issue. > > If Ron Paul is responsible for racist comments distributed by employee > approximately 20 years ago, is Pres

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So, back to the racism issue. If Ron Paul is responsible for racist comments distributed by employee approximately 20 years ago, is President Obama responsible for the racist comments distributed by one his proxies 20 hours ago? Jim Messina, who is helming the president's reelection effort, tw

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"Biden as president, now that would be comedy gold." He's comedy gold now. Funny how he gets a pass from the media. J - I never thought this day would happen. . . . I won’t have to work on putting gas in my car. I won’t have to work at paying my mortgage. You know. If I help him, he’s gonna h

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Biden as president, now that would be comedy gold. . On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Actually, anyone, even Edwards would have been better. To put it another > way, we couldn't possibly have done worse. I thought that was obvious." > > > I'm not sure about Edwards.  H

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"Actually, anyone, even Edwards would have been better. To put it another way, we couldn't possibly have done worse. I thought that was obvious." I'm not sure about Edwards. He would have been useful as comedy gold for SNL. Hillary probably would have been better. She definitely knows how to

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"Even so, he's better than any of the options the Republicans have offered in this election or the last" In your opinion. And remember, I can't stand John McCain, Mitt Romney, or New Gingrich. J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. - Henry Kissinger Po

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Actually, anyone, even Edwards would have been better. To put it another way, we couldn't possibly have done worse. I thought that was obvious. .. On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Maureen wrote: > > > Even so, he's better than any of the options the Republicans have > offered in this election

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On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > > All I am saying is that President Obama is no different from any other > modern day politician (probably a lot worse).  Some of those who thought he > was, particularly the intellectuals, might be waking up. Even so, he's better than any

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ritic...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 5:19 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: FW: Report: Paul approved racist portions of newsletters "The Nazis were not socialists." Yeah, the name National Socialist German Workers Party makes that clear. Right? "They fit the defini

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"The Nazis were not socialists." Yeah, the name National Socialist German Workers Party makes that clear. Right? "They fit the definition of fascism more than socialism, ..." Fascism and Socialism are not mutually exclusive. Benito Mussolini started off as a stalwart of the Socialist Party u

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"He's following the rules laid down by the Supreme Court (boneheaded decision if there ever was one) and that the Republicans are playing by." Does that make it okay? Didn't he run on the premise of being better than the system. There seems to be a contradiction there (which is never a problem

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Maybe not in the US but social democracy is pretty viable in both Canada and in Scandinavia. By some definitions even the US could be considered a social democratic system. Contemporary post WW2 social democracy generally means support for regulation of the economy and ameliorative measures to be

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On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > > Nope doesn't sound like any form of socialism to me, classic, Fabian, > social democracy or otherwise. It would appear that the canard that > the Nazi's were socialist is just that an extreme right wing lie. The only Socialists aroun

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gt; >> >> So to restate that...anyone that believes that the Nazis were socialists.... >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 8:38 AM >> To: cf-communit

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t; > > So to restate that...anyone that believes that the Nazis were socialists > > -Original Message- > From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 8:38 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: FW: Report: Paul approved racist portions of

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: Report: Paul approved racist portions of newsletters A typo maybe? . On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > the Nazis we socialists. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com

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A typo maybe? . On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > the Nazis we socialists. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion A

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. -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:26 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: FW: Report: Paul approved racist portions of newsletters "funny how the reich wing keeps brining that case up. " Reich wing. Your'e kil

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He's following the rules laid down by the Supreme Court (boneheaded decision if there ever was one) and that the Republicans are playing by. Hopefully this time he doesn't try to be bipartisan and hits the campaign trail hard and aggressively. He's going up against extremists and there is no appe

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"funny how the reich wing keeps brining that case up. " Reich wing. Your'e killing me. Since the third reich was a socialist party, I guess this means the progressive statists. I might have to use this one myself. Anyway, speaking of Reich, what about Robert Reich: Obama Has Handed The Elect

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funny how the reich wing keeps brining that case up. In the end there was nothing, just a provocateur trying to do another fake Acorn hit. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Your reasoning only holds with a postulate that I reject: namely that Holder > is racist and his act

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"Your reasoning only holds with a postulate that I reject: namely that Holder is racist and his actions are racist." Fine. Apparently you forgot all about the New Black Panthers, but hey whatever. Dr Martin Luther King said “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." Eric Holder o

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simple do a search for his name at http://thomas.loc.gov/home/thomas.php it has a record of all bills that have come before the house and senate. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Vivec wrote: > > " Ron Paul's > voting record shows that he hasn't changed the viewpoints expressed in > these newslet

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Here's a listing of all the bills he has sponsored... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_legislation_sponsored_by_Ron_Paul -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 4:50 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: FW: Report: Paul app

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Just go to Thomas.gov and look at the bills he has introduced or supported. His record speaks for itself. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Vivec wrote: > > " Ron Paul's > voting record shows that he hasn't changed the viewpoints expressed in > these newsletters.  Big difference. " > > Where can

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That's the thing though, he doesn't want the slack picked up (at least not by the federal government) otherwise it wouldn't be shrinking the size of government. He believes, and this is damn close to a direct quote, that the federal government should be responsible for national defense, a court sy

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OooohLOL...I was wondering. I had not seen all that. It's impossible to reset the clock that far, and certainly not in a year. I suppose there have been no independent analysis of what WOULD happen if those departments were not there, and the slack was picked up in other ways, though? On 8 F

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On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: err... *nothing* about that seems remotely reasonable. Missing a word there :) Judah > Dunno about you but that seems remotely reasonable to me, all charges > of racism aside. I mean, I think his support of virulent racists and > courting le

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Well, on just the government side of things he has proposed to eliminate the Depts of Education, Housing and Urban Development, Commerce, Interior, Education, Health and Human Services and the IRS. >From his 2012 plan on his own website: "Cuts $1 trillion in spending during the first year of Ron

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" Ron Paul's voting record shows that he hasn't changed the viewpoints expressed in these newsletters. Big difference. " Where can I find that info? I've been reading what Ron Paul's position is on a few things and it seems pretty reasonable. The only thing that really jumps out at me is the cha

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m] > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:43 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: FW: Report: Paul approved racist portions of newsletters > > > On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: >> >> "Yes, Obama is Holder's boss, so he is responsible for h

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What has he (Holder) done that can be considered racist? -Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:43 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: FW: Report: Paul approved racist portions of newsletters On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:50

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On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Yes, Obama is Holder's boss, so he is responsible for his actions that happen > as part of his job (though it is a Senate-confirmed position, so things are > obviously slightly different but the same principle holds)." > > Good. > > > "Howe

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Robert Byrd repudiated his past and became a champion of the people and civil rights. Lyndon Johnson championed the Civil Rights Act. Woodrow Wilson? Seriously? Was Clinton ever found guilty of rape? I would love to see the court docs... Ron Paul hasn't done any of that nor has he claimed re

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"Ron Paul is responsible for articles going out under his name and with his approval. Or don't you believe in personal responsibility?" Fine. Barrack Obama is responsible for Eric Holder's racist decisions (not to mention the other cover ups). Now, how long does it take RP to be forgiven fo

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"Oh, I'll take the bait!" Chomping at the bit. "Yes, Obama is Holder's boss, so he is responsible for his actions that happen as part of his job (though it is a Senate-confirmed position, so things are obviously slightly different but the same principle holds)." Good. "However, the two situa

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Ron Paul is responsible for articles going out under his name and with his approval. Or don't you believe in personal responsibility? On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > Larry, > > I guess you would say that Ron Paul should be responsible for racists who > "work" for him?  A

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: FW: Report: Paul approved racist portions of newsletters Now I'm thinking about a LinkedIn profile that describes you as "a high profile racist". Marketing gold right there. Judah On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Yes...if doesn't want

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; To: cf-community > Subject: Re: FW: Report: Paul approved racist portions of newsletters > > > Larry, > > I guess you would say that Ron Paul should be responsible for racists who > "work" for him?  At least in some fashion? > > > Does this mean that you hol

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ritic...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:29 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: FW: Report: Paul approved racist portions of newsletters Larry, I guess you would say that Ron Paul should be responsible for racists who "work" for him? At least in some fashion? Does this mea

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On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > Larry, > > I guess you would say that Ron Paul should be responsible for racists who > "work" for him?  At least in some fashion? > > > Does this mean that you hold President Obama responsible for Eric Holder? Oh, I'll take the bait! Yes,

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Larry, I guess you would say that Ron Paul should be responsible for racists who "work" for him? At least in some fashion? Does this mean that you hold President Obama responsible for Eric Holder? J - One of the sad signs of our times is that we have demonized those who produce, subsidized

FW: Report: Paul approved racist portions of newsletters

http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/01/report-paul-approved-racist-portions-of-newsletters-112566.html Report: Paul approved racist portions of newsletters By EMILY SCHULTHEIS | 1/27/12 12:30 PM EST The question of Ron Paul's newsletters, and the racially charged portions of them,