on the card
- Original Message -
From: Marlon Moyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: Is Michael D the sniper?!? (was RE: Pedophiliac book on
Amazon.com)
Yeah, I remember being a half-elf chaotic evil
, 2002 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: Is Michael D the sniper?!? (was RE: Pedophiliac book on
Amazon.com)
That would be Judith. I've got no problem writing God as it's not a divine
name in any respect. And anyway, I'd use something a lot different than a
tarot card. A puzzle, a poem, an historical taunt
: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
Maybe, Beth, but I wouldn't want him to profit from it, especially if I
thought that money was going to aid or abet pedophiles. I guess I'd go read
this book in the library but I wouldn't buy it.
Agreed
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Sent: 10 October 2002 11:13
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
Has anybody actually read this book? Only surely if not none of us are in a
position to judge it. I learnt a long time ago to form my own opinions about
things..
w
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From
to try and
understand how such a thing could happen.
w
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From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 October 2002 11:50
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
but if we know the book is about a man who advocates intimate relationships
Mark Smyth wrote:
but if we know the book is about a man who advocates intimate relationships
with young boys
Do we know that?
why do we really need to read it to form an opinion?
Since when is lack of knowledge a reason not to have an opinion about
something?
What ever arguments he
murder is murder
w
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From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 October 2002 23:48
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
How about murdering a pedophile?
At 05:22 PM 10/9/2002 -0400, you wrote:
Which is worse? Pedophilia or murder
-Community
Subject: Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
Mark Smyth wrote:
but if we know the book is about a man who advocates intimate
relationships
with young boys
Do we know that?
why do we really need to read it to form an opinion?
Since when is lack of knowledge a reason not to have
stop
-Original Message-
From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 October 2002 12:18
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
murder is murder
w
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From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 October 2002 23:48
To: CF
Mark Smyth wrote:
fact is, some people deserve to be murdered
Some people deserve to be killed. Nobody deserves to be murdered.
Jochem
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a chance of preventing paedophiles from being created.
w
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From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 October 2002 12:19
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
What ever arguments he gives in the book, how can he justify what he
preaches
2002 12:33
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
Mark Smyth wrote:
fact is, some people deserve to be murdered
Some people deserve to be killed. Nobody deserves to be murdered.
Jochem
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surely in this instance it depends on whether the law protects the young?
-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 October 2002 12:33
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
Mark Smyth wrote:
fact is, some people deserve
fair enough, but theres also the risk of it working the other way, with it
negatively influencing peoples behaviour
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From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 October 2002 12:35
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
I would agree
Mark Smyth wrote:
surely in this instance it depends on whether the law protects the young?
I am not sure I understand your point. Could you elaborate?
Jochem
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Subject: RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
fair enough, but theres also the risk of it working the other way, with it
negatively influencing peoples behaviour
-Original Message-
From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 October 2002 12:35
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE
2002 12:40
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
Mark Smyth wrote:
surely in this instance it depends on whether the law protects the young?
I am not sure I understand your point. Could you elaborate?
Jochem
Message-
From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 October 2002 12:32
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
surely in this instance it depends on whether the law protects the young?
-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: Is Michael D the sniper?!? (was RE: Pedophiliac book on
Amazon.com)
I've played American army and try as I may, I can't get into sniper school.
And from my record of being killed regularly in the game, I'll never have
military
Mark Smyth wrote:
you said some people deserve to be killed, not murdered.
I took your meaning to be that the killing had to be done within the law, so
it wasn't murder
That is correct.
If that is so i partially agree, but only if the laws in place protect the
child at risk. If the
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Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 6:47 AM
Subject: RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
the problem with this is that most cases of paedophilia occur within the
family. Predatory paedophiles, the sort that we hear about in the news all
too often
: Will Swain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 6:47 AM
Subject: RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
the problem with this is that most cases of paedophilia
occur within the
family. Predatory paedophiles, the sort that we hear about
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 October 2002 13:38
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
Let's sue the guy to give up all the profits of the book for this cause :)
I mean hey if I can sue McDonalds cause I ate a quarter pounder
if
that were the case. But pictures and books and groups like NAMBLA I think
cross the line and should be stopped.
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From: Larry Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 8:16 AM
Subject: RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
Yes
Hey guys, I saw this story on Oreilly fox news.
Apparently they are selling books buy this group or individual that is about
homosexual love with little boys. Here's quote..
The book says that men who sexually pursue young boys are not bad people,
but, loving human beings.
Amazon says that it
09, 2002 11:01 AM
Subject: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
Hey guys, I saw this story on Oreilly fox news.
Apparently they are selling books buy this group or individual that is
about
homosexual love with little boys. Here's quote..
The book says that men who sexually pursue young boys
This is ridiculous. They're saying that because Amazon links to the
publisher's site, which in turn links to (purportedly) pornagraphic images
of men and boys, that Amazon is legally liable? Then, I guess google.com is
legally liable, too, as I can certainly find pornography there.
Whatever.
? What if I wanted to learn about pedophiles? Wouldn't a book written
by one who thinks its jusitified be worthy of reading?
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From: Phoeun Pha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 8:01 AM
Subject: Pedophiliac book
already had the predispensation to do it in the first place.
~~
Stephenie
|-Original Message-
|From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:01 PM
|To: CF-Community
|Subject: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
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|Hey guys, I saw this story
But what about AMazon, the company who is selling the books and making
profit off of it??
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 11:37 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
I think the author
No Deanna, the thing is that they are selling that BOOK! Also, read the
customer reviews. Lots of em pedophiles. lol
-Original Message-
From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 11:42 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Pedophiliac book
Kevin said, I think the author of the book should be drug out into the
street and shot. Being drug out into the street and shot is not the
answer to this problem ...
He should be drug into the street, lit on fire, stoned, forced to what a
full season of the Tampa Bay Devil Rays and the St.
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Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
I saw this on some newsgroup and at first I was outraged. But then I
realized sometimes you read books to learn about something - not because
you agree with the content. For example, wouldn't a cop
: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 11:59 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
I saw this on some newsgroup and at first I was outraged. But then I
realized sometimes you read books to learn about something - not because
you agree with the content. For example, wouldn't a cop
could get it from Amazon of course ;)
-Original Message-
From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 October 2002 17:59
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
I saw this on some newsgroup and at first I was outraged.
But then I realized sometimes you
make me feel uneasy!
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From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 11:59 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
I saw this on some newsgroup and at first I was outraged. But then I
realized sometimes you read books
Maybe, Beth, but I wouldn't want him to profit from it, especially if I
thought that money was going to aid or abet pedophiles. I guess I'd go read
this book in the library but I wouldn't buy it.
Agreed.
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So what, Phoeun. Who cares if Amazon is selling the book. That's exactly
what I'm saying. Who cares if the people buying it are pedophiles. Yes,
pedophilia is against the law. A book on the topic is not against the law.
Yes, the behavior (pedophilia) is considered repugnant in our society.
the author into the street and shoot him.
Adam.
-Original Message-
From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:37 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
Beth, I agree. But what if the book tell other pedophiles
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Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:47 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
Also, how about books on How To Rape Women and Not Get
Caught...Cheating
Your Spouse 101 (there is a book like that, in fact), How to
Beat Your Wife
into Submission, Terrorist
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Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 9:46 AM
Subject: RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
Also, how about books on How To Rape Women and Not Get Caught...Cheating
Your Spouse 101 (there is a book like that, in fact), How to Beat Your
Wife
into Submission, Terrorist
a point.
See Beth, as much as I agree with you on Freedom of speech, these possible
book subjects make me feel uneasy!
-Original Message-
From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 11:59 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
I
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 11:59 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
I saw this on some newsgroup and at first I was outraged. But then I
realized sometimes you read books to learn about something - not because
you agree with the content
Jerry,
I'm not saying you have no say in it. I think refusing to purchase books
from them is EXACTLY the kind of say you should have. The point is - selling
the book isn't illegal. You're entitled to feel it's wrong. But your moral
stance has nothing to do with my rights.
-d
Deanna Schneider
Beth,
I guess it's hard to draw the line then.
-Original Message-
From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 2:04 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
It makes me uneasy as well. Criminal activity should be prevented
At 01:46 PM 10/9/02, Phoeun Pha wrote:
Sorry for being a little rough, but I was trying to make a point.
See Beth, as much as I agree with you on Freedom of speech, these possible
book subjects make me feel uneasy!
The most obscene act is censorship.
the car thief for a good long time.
Happy Hunting
- Original Message -
From: Beth F [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
It makes me uneasy as well. Criminal activity should
telling others how to do it?
-Original Message-
From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 11:35 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
So what, Phoeun. Who cares if Amazon is selling the book. That's exactly
what I'm
So we read a news storyon foxnews.com
~~
Stephenie
|-Original Message-
|From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 3:42 PM
|To: CF-Community
|Subject: Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
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|For everyone that's clicked on that link
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Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:36 PM
Subject: RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
Beth, I agree. But what if the book tell other pedophiles how to approach
little boys.
A Pedophile's guide to Kids 101, if you will.
Man, doesn't that make u
it was done, thereby telling others how to do it?
-Original Message-
From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 11:35 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
So what, Phoeun. Who cares if Amazon is selling the book. That's
Subject: RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
Also, how about books on How To Rape Women and Not Get Caught...Cheating
Your Spouse 101 (there is a book like that, in fact), How to Beat
Your Wife
into Submission, Terrorist Guide: How To Sneak Bombs Pass
Security and Blow
Up Very Large Buildings
Which is worse? Pedophilia or murder?
--
jon
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 1:20:26 PM, you wrote:
J Kevin said, I think the author of the book should be drug out into the
J street and shot. Being drug out into the street and shot is not the
J answer to this problem
12:47 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
Also, how about books on How To Rape Women and Not Get Caught...Cheating
Your Spouse 101 (there is a book like that, in fact), How to Beat
Your Wife
into Submission, Terrorist Guide: How To Sneak Bombs Pass
-Community
Subject: Is Michael D the sniper?!? (was RE: Pedophiliac book on
Amazon.com)
Just saw on the USA Today site this description of the D.C. area sniper:
'Robert Ressler, a retired FBI profiler, says the card could be a prank. But
if the sniper left the card, Ressler said, it could indicate
How about murdering a pedophile?
At 05:22 PM 10/9/2002 -0400, you wrote:
Which is worse? Pedophilia or murder?
--
jon
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 1:20:26 PM, you wrote:
J Kevin said, I think the author of the book should be drug out into the
J street and shot.
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Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 4:50 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Is Michael D the sniper?!? (was RE: Pedophiliac book on
Amazon.com)
I've played American army and try as I may, I can't get into
sniper school.
And from my record of being killed regularly in the game, I'll never
Retired FBI profiler. ;-)
Kevin Graeme
-Original Message-
From: Lon Lentz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 5:54 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Is Michael D the sniper?!? (was RE: Pedophiliac book on
Amazon.com)
...If he's into tarot cards, he's
, 2002 11:01 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Pedophiliac book on Amazon.com
Hey guys, I saw this story on Oreilly fox news.
Apparently they are selling books buy this group or individual
that is about
homosexual love with little boys. Here's quote..
The book says that men who sexually pursue
: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 4:50 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Is Michael D the sniper?!? (was RE: Pedophiliac book on
Amazon.com)
I've played American army and try as I may, I can't get into
sniper school.
And from my record of being killed regularly in the game, I'll never
have
Maybe I'm splitting hairs, but I the term pedophilia is a broad
term...just looked it up on dictionary.com, covering both act and
fantasy. Rape wasn't listed as a synonym in either case though, in
which case an eye for an eye approach sounds fine to me. Since the
term covers fantasy though we
To: CF-Community
Subject: Is Michael D the sniper?!? (was RE: Pedophiliac book on
Amazon.com)
Just saw on the USA Today site this description of the D.C. area sniper:
'Robert Ressler, a retired FBI profiler, says the card could be a prank. But
if the sniper left the card, Ressler said, it could
Jon Hall wrote:
I only skimmed the article, but the author sounds like on of those
NAMBLA idiots. As disgusting as they are, I'd rather the way these
people think be understood, because killing them all isn't going to
stop it, and would only drive them underground.
For god sakes, when is the
if it was mike d he would have written i am g-d on the card
- Original Message -
From: Marlon Moyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: Is Michael D the sniper?!? (was RE: Pedophiliac book on
Amazon.com)
Yeah, I
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