Perhaps, but likely no more than that naive fools on the other side who
were slobbering over Caribou Barbie.
Sure there were. That really goes without saying.
And there were others who actually liked her.
Who is Peggy Joseph, and why should I care what she says? I've never heard
of her,
You are conflating my posts with Larry's post. I did not say
I am not trying to merge you and Larry together. Just saving space.
You are nothing like Larry. While you might not agree with another side,
you at least try to contemplate it. Likewise, you refrain from making
sweeping
Of course, manufactured controversy is so much easier and more fun,
right?
Whatever. I really don't care about the statement in and of itself. Just
the double standard. That is, progressives get a pass while those who are
not get excoriated for things not even remotely as offensive as this.
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
Kind of like falling for Hope and Change.
The opposition would have a much better chance of defeating Obama if
they would stop quoting sound bites from the bobble-heads that put
forth the assumption that we are all naive
The opposition would have a much better chance of defeating Obama if they
would stop quoting sound bites from the bobble-heads that put
forth the assumption that we are all naive fools who fell for anything
resembling
Hope and Change and did an analysis of the real reasons he won
Of course
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
The opposition would have a much better chance of defeating Obama if they
would stop quoting sound bites from the bobble-heads that put
forth the assumption that we are all naive fools who fell for anything
resembling
: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 2:15 PM
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On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
The opposition would have a much better chance
, racist, anti-immigrant, anti-civil rights,
corporatist, Randian dystopian views
-Original Message-
From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 2:15 PM
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On Sat, Feb
yeah, and what happened in Mendocino County can't be described as
anything but harmful, I agree.
I actively despise what the Obama administration is doing to the
medical marijuana collectives out here, and while I might hold my nose
and vote for him simply because of that lack of better
Great story about it in this month's issue of Rolling Stone.
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote:
yeah, and what happened in Mendocino County can't be described as
anything but harmful, I agree.
I actively despise what the Obama administration is doing to the
yeah? I'll check it out.
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote:
Great story about it in this month's issue of Rolling Stone.
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote:
yeah, and what happened in Mendocino County can't be described as
So, back to the racism issue.
If Ron Paul is responsible for racist comments distributed by employee
approximately 20 years ago, is President Obama responsible for the racist
comments distributed by one his proxies 20 hours ago?
Jim Messina, who is helming the president's reelection effort,
False equivalence. What you are referring to was never sent out in
Obama's name unlike Ron Paul.
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
So, back to the racism issue.
If Ron Paul is responsible for racist comments distributed by employee
approximately 20
False equivalence. What you are referring to was never sent out in Obama's
name unlike Ron Paul.
I got it. Since it wasn't in Obama's name, it's okay for him to send out
racists messages. That is, it is okay for Obama to hire and work with
racists or people who propagate a racist messages.
I
Exactly how is that comment racist by any conventional definition of the word?
What exactly do the Republicans have to offer Hispanic voters? That
would seem to be the real question behind all the red herring nonsense
that is being bantered about.
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 5:51 AM, Jerry Barnes
Ron Paul was involved in the publication of the newsletter that went
out under his name. Obama did not. End of story.
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
False equivalence. What you are referring to was never sent out in Obama's
name unlike Ron Paul.
I
It's not really that clear cut. Jim Messina was hired by Obama to run
his reelection campaign. He, perhaps more than anyone else, speaks
for Obama the candidate. If he says something improper then Obama
needs to hold him responsible. But that tweet is a tempest in a
teapot - a thoughtless use
Exactly how is that comment racist by any conventional definition of the
word?
You don't believe it's racist?
How about changing the context just a little.
Chit'lins? It may be the only thing Republicans have left to offer Blacks,
Is that racist?
Maybe racism doesn't exist if it is directed
The bottom line, and you know it to be true, is that any Republican or
Republican proxy would be excoriated for this. That is not right.
Maureen, I found just such an example: http://minx.cc/?post=326726
Chimichanga?
Is anyone really
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
Exactly how is that comment racist by any conventional definition of the
word?
You don't believe it's racist?
Nope. Perhaps not politically correct, but not racist.
How about changing the context just a little.
Jerry, did you bother reading the Dana Milbank article that the tweet
was about? The Chimichanga reference is a quote from John McCain.
Here's the text from the article:
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) spoke about the wonders of his state. 'The
lettuce in your salad this month almost certainly came
In the context of the entire convo...no.
He was commenting on something McCain said...responding that is all they
have to offer Hispanics...
I also didn't see why the Taco comment by the mayor was racist either...
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
The
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: FW: Report: Paul approved racist portions of newsletters
So, back to the racism issue.
If Ron Paul is responsible for racist comments distributed by employee
approximately 20 years ago, is President Obama responsible for the racist
comments distributed by one his
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: FW: Report: Paul approved racist portions of newsletters
Ron Paul was involved in the publication of the newsletter that went out
under his name. Obama did not. End of story.
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
False equivalence
Even so, he's better than any of the options the Republicans have offered
in this election or the last
In your opinion.
And remember, I can't stand John McCain, Mitt Romney, or New Gingrich.
J
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Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation.
- Henry Kissinger
Actually, anyone, even Edwards would have been better. To put it another
way, we couldn't possibly have done worse. I thought that was obvious.
I'm not sure about Edwards. He would have been useful as comedy gold for
SNL.
Hillary probably would have been better. She definitely knows how to
Biden as president, now that would be comedy gold.
.
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
Actually, anyone, even Edwards would have been better. To put it another
way, we couldn't possibly have done worse. I thought that was obvious.
I'm not sure about
Biden as president, now that would be comedy gold.
He's comedy gold now.
Funny how he gets a pass from the media.
J
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I never thought this day would happen. . . . I wont have to work on
putting gas in my car. I wont have to work at paying my mortgage. You
know. If I help him, hes gonna
Actually, anyone, even Edwards would have been better. To put it
another way, we couldn't possibly have done worse. I thought that was
obvious.
..
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote:
Even so, he's better than any of the options the Republicans have
offered
He's following the rules laid down by the Supreme Court
(boneheaded decision if there ever was one) and that the Republicans are
playing by.
Does that make it okay? Didn't he run on the premise of being better than
the system. There seems to be a contradiction there (which is never a
problem
The Nazis were not socialists.
Yeah, the name National Socialist German Workers Party makes that clear.
Right?
They fit the definition of fascism more than socialism, ...
Fascism and Socialism are not mutually exclusive. Benito Mussolini started
off as a stalwart of the Socialist Party
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The Nazis were not socialists.
Yeah, the name National Socialist German Workers Party makes that clear.
Right?
They fit the definition of fascism more
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
All I am saying is that President Obama is no different from any other
modern day politician (probably a lot worse). Some of those who thought he
was, particularly the intellectuals, might be waking up.
Even so, he's
He's following the rules laid down by the Supreme Court (boneheaded
decision if there ever was one) and that the Republicans are playing by.
Hopefully this time he doesn't try to be bipartisan and hits the campaign
trail hard and aggressively. He's going up against extremists and there is
no
.
-Original Message-
From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:26 PM
To: cf-community
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funny how the reich wing keeps brining that case up.
Reich wing. Your'e killing me. Since
A typo maybe?
.
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Eric Roberts
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:
the Nazis we socialists.
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: Report: Paul approved racist portions of newsletters
A typo maybe?
.
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Eric Roberts
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:
the Nazis we socialists.
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Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now
to restate that...anyone that believes that the Nazis were socialists
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 8:38 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: FW: Report: Paul approved racist portions of newsletters
A typo maybe
: Thursday, February 09, 2012 8:38 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: FW: Report: Paul approved racist portions of newsletters
A typo maybe?
.
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Eric Roberts
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:
the Nazis we socialists
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote:
Nope doesn't sound like any form of socialism to me, classic, Fabian,
social democracy or otherwise. It would appear that the canard that
the Nazi's were socialist is just that an extreme right wing lie.
The only
Maybe not in the US but social democracy is pretty viable in both
Canada and in Scandinavia. By some definitions even the US could be
considered a social democratic system. Contemporary post WW2 social
democracy generally means support for regulation of the economy and
ameliorative measures to
Larry,
I guess you would say that Ron Paul should be responsible for racists who
work for him? At least in some fashion?
Does this mean that you hold President Obama responsible for Eric Holder?
J
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One of the sad signs of our times is that we have demonized those who
produce, subsidized
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
Larry,
I guess you would say that Ron Paul should be responsible for racists who
work for him? At least in some fashion?
Does this mean that you hold President Obama responsible for Eric Holder?
Oh, I'll take the
...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:29 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: FW: Report: Paul approved racist portions of newsletters
Larry,
I guess you would say that Ron Paul should be responsible for racists who
work for him? At least in some fashion?
Does this mean that you hold
: FW: Report: Paul approved racist portions of newsletters
Larry,
I guess you would say that Ron Paul should be responsible for racists who
work for him? At least in some fashion?
Does this mean that you hold President Obama responsible for Eric Holder?
J
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One of the sad signs of our
, February 08, 2012 11:29 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: FW: Report: Paul approved racist portions of newsletters
Larry,
I guess you would say that Ron Paul should be responsible for racists
who work for him? At least in some fashion?
Does this mean that you hold President Obama
Ron Paul is responsible for articles going out under his name and with
his approval. Or don't you believe in personal responsibility?
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
Larry,
I guess you would say that Ron Paul should be responsible for racists who
Oh, I'll take the bait!
Chomping at the bit.
Yes, Obama is Holder's boss, so he is responsible for his actions that happen
as part of his job (though it is a Senate-confirmed position, so things are
obviously slightly different but the same principle holds).
Good.
However, the two
Ron Paul is responsible for articles going out under his name and with his
approval. Or don't you believe in personal responsibility?
Fine. Barrack Obama is responsible for Eric Holder's racist decisions (not
to mention the other cover ups).
Now, how long does it take RP to be forgiven for
Robert Byrd repudiated his past and became a champion of the people and
civil rights. Lyndon Johnson championed the Civil Rights Act. Woodrow
Wilson? Seriously? Was Clinton ever found guilty of rape? I would love
to see the court docs... Ron Paul hasn't done any of that nor has he
claimed
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, Obama is Holder's boss, so he is responsible for his actions that happen
as part of his job (though it is a Senate-confirmed position, so things are
obviously slightly different but the same principle holds).
Good.
What has he (Holder) done that can be considered racist?
-Original Message-
From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:43 PM
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On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:50
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Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:43 PM
To: cf-community
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On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, Obama is Holder's boss, so he is responsible for his actions
that happen as part
Ron Paul's
voting record shows that he hasn't changed the viewpoints expressed in
these newsletters. Big difference.
Where can I find that info? I've been reading what Ron Paul's position is
on a few things and it seems pretty reasonable. The only thing that really
jumps out at me is the
Well, on just the government side of things he has proposed to
eliminate the Depts of Education, Housing and Urban Development,
Commerce, Interior, Education, Health and Human Services and the IRS.
From his 2012 plan on his own website:
Cuts $1 trillion in spending during the first year of Ron
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote:
err... *nothing* about that seems remotely reasonable. Missing a word there :)
Judah
Dunno about you but that seems remotely reasonable to me, all charges
of racism aside. I mean, I think his support of virulent
OooohLOL...I was wondering.
I had not seen all that.
It's impossible to reset the clock that far, and certainly not in a year.
I suppose there have been no independent analysis of what WOULD happen if
those departments were not there, and the slack was picked up in other
ways, though?
On 8
That's the thing though, he doesn't want the slack picked up (at least
not by the federal government) otherwise it wouldn't be shrinking the
size of government. He believes, and this is damn close to a direct
quote, that the federal government should be responsible for national
defense, a court
Just go to Thomas.gov and look at the bills he has introduced or
supported. His record speaks for itself.
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:
Ron Paul's
voting record shows that he hasn't changed the viewpoints expressed in
these newsletters. Big difference.
Here's a listing of all the bills he has sponsored...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_legislation_sponsored_by_Ron_Paul
-Original Message-
From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 4:50 PM
To: cf-community
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simple do a search for his name at
http://thomas.loc.gov/home/thomas.php it has a record of all bills
that have come before the house and senate.
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:
Ron Paul's
voting record shows that he hasn't changed the viewpoints expressed in
Your reasoning only holds with a postulate that I reject: namely that Holder
is racist and his actions are racist.
Fine.
Apparently you forgot all about the New Black Panthers, but hey whatever.
Dr Martin Luther King said Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice
everywhere. Eric Holder
funny how the reich wing keeps brining that case up. In the end there
was nothing, just a provocateur trying to do another fake Acorn hit.
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:
Your reasoning only holds with a postulate that I reject: namely that Holder
is
funny how the reich wing keeps brining that case up.
Reich wing. Your'e killing me. Since the third reich was a socialist
party, I guess this means the progressive statists. I might have to use
this one myself.
Anyway, speaking of Reich, what about Robert Reich: Obama Has Handed The
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