Re: electoral college

2004-10-27 Thread Howie Hamlin
Last election? Was that when Poutine beat out Toutons? - Original Message - From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:11 AM Subject: Re: electoral college > Growing up

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2004-10-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
ussel Madere > Webmaster > 504.832.9835 > SunShine Pages by EATEL > www.sunshinepages.com > > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:53 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: electoral college >

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2004-10-27 Thread Russel Madere
www.sunshinepages.com -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:53 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: electoral college I'm not, but I've never understood how many people do not understand why most of the world is pissed at us. Its been

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2004-10-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I'm not, but I've never understood how many people do not understand why most of the world is pissed at us. Its been painfully obvious for a very long time to anyone who even looks slightly beyond the US and local news. In other words I'm pissed that people refuse to take responsibility for their g

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2004-10-27 Thread G
Not really, but sometimes I wonder why you are :) > > And you wonder why the Iranians are pissed off at the US? > > larry. > > ~| Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF communi

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2004-10-26 Thread Larry C. Lyons
gt; wrote: > > > > You will have to forgive me but being from the UK > > > (and being only 6 in 1981) > > > > I don't know the circumstances surrounding that > > > hostage release, > > > > consequently I have no opinion on that subject. > > > &g

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2004-10-26 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Ah. Perhaps an exaggeration. -Original Message- From: dana tierney someone -- not you I think --- was calling Reagan a god among men here a while back Dana On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:31:20 -0500, Andy Ousterhout wrote: > Where did that come from? > > -Original Message- > From: da

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2004-10-26 Thread dana tierney
someone -- not you I think --- was calling Reagan a god among men here a while back Dana On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:31:20 -0500, Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Where did that come from? > > -Original Message- > From: dana tierney > > Reagan too, I hear :) > > On Tue, 26 Oct

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2004-10-26 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Where did that come from? -Original Message- From: dana tierney Reagan too, I hear :) On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:21:14 -0500, Andy Ousterhout wrote: > Not Bush. He is perfect in every way. > > -Original Message- > From: dana tierneylege > > he worked hard not smart. Yeah, it

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2004-10-26 Thread dana tierney
Reagan too, I hear :) On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:21:14 -0500, Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not Bush. He is perfect in every way. > > -Original Message- > From: dana tierneylege > > he worked hard not smart. Yeah, it was one of his flaws. Most > presidents have them, ya know

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2004-10-26 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Not Bush. He is perfect in every way. -Original Message- From: dana tierneylege he worked hard not smart. Yeah, it was one of his flaws. Most presidents have them, ya know. ~| Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macro

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2004-10-26 Thread dana tierney
to forgive me but being from the UK > > (and being only 6 in 1981) > > > I don't know the circumstances surrounding that > > hostage release, > > > consequently I have no opinion on that subject. > > > > > > -- > > > Jay > > > > >

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2004-10-26 Thread Sam Morris
> > > > -- > > Jay > > > > > -Original Message----- > > > From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: 26 October 2004 13:47 > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: electoral college > > > > > > Exactly m

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2004-10-26 Thread dana tierney
t hostage release, > consequently I have no opinion on that subject. > > -- > Jay > > > -Original Message- > > From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 26 October 2004 13:47 > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: electoral college > > >

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2004-10-26 Thread dana tierney
TED]> > >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:41 AM > >Subject: RE: electoral college > > > > > That would depend on the circumstances. In a simplistic world then no you > > couldn't but the real w

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2004-10-26 Thread dana tierney
t give Kerry credit for that, can you?". > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "dana tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 5:20 PM > >Subject: Re: elector

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2004-10-26 Thread dana tierney
I think that depends on whose numbers you use. I personally think the recession started aftre Bush started talking about what terrible shape the economy was in. On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 22:06:31 -0500, Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just as you can't blame Bush for the recession. > >

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2004-10-26 Thread dana tierney
he worked hard not smart. Yeah, it was one of his flaws. Most presidents have them, ya know. On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 22:05:38 -0500, Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I understand it, Carter's fundamental problem was that he was too smart > and wouldn't delegate. Things just basically

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2004-10-26 Thread Gruss Gott
> Brian wrote: > You really can't give Kerry credit for that, can you?". I think you'd have to credit Mr. Bush for 3 reasons: 1.) His lack of diplomatic skill. 2.) His failure to win the election. 3.) His provocative foreign policy. Mr. Kerry would be a spectator. This is the same as the hostag

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2004-10-26 Thread James Smith
ber 2004 13:47 > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: electoral college > > Exactly my point James. The argument is also too simplistic > when referring to the hostage release following Reagan's > inaugaration in 1981. > > >- Original Message - > >From: &q

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2004-10-26 Thread G
]> >Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:41 AM >Subject: RE: electoral college > > That would depend on the circumstances. In a simplistic world then no you > couldn't but the real world is a bit more complex. Imagine the following > situation > > The French and Germans

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2004-10-26 Thread James Smith
y for the extra International support even if he has only been in power for a couple of hours. -- Jay > -Original Message- > From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 26 October 2004 13:32 > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: electoral college > > Now THIS is an intere

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2004-10-26 Thread G
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 5:20 PM >Subject: Re: electoral college > > Screwed up, yes. But if the hostages were released *as* Reagan was > sworn in yo

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2004-10-25 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Just as you can't blame Bush for the recession. -Original Message- From: dana tierney Screwed up, yes. But if the hostages were released *as* Reagan was sworn in you really can't give Reagan credit for freeing them, can you? Dana ~~

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2004-10-25 Thread Andy Ousterhout
As I understand it, Carter's fundamental problem was that he was too smart and wouldn't delegate. Things just basically ground to a halt as he reviewed and approved everything. Andy -Original Message- From: dana tierney He had a recession and yeah, he had the Iran hostage thing. Reagan

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2004-10-25 Thread dana tierney
so? maybe this time there would not be a sandstorm. Point is, he took his best guess, guessed wrong, and was voted out of office. and the moral of the story is Dana On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:13:48 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Carter did not take responsibilty. > > He cl

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2004-10-25 Thread Sam Morris
Carter did not take responsibilty. He claims he'd still do the same. -sm --- dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yeah but starting from > > if Carter was in office he should take > responsibility (and did) > > where does that leave Bush? > > Dana > (just when you were starting to lik

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2004-10-25 Thread dana tierney
yeah but starting from if Carter was in office he should take responsibility (and did) where does that leave Bush? Dana (just when you were starting to like me) On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:26:42 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All right Dana! > Agreeing again. > > -sm > > -

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2004-10-25 Thread Sam Morris
All right Dana! Agreeing again. -sm --- dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I always thought that was spite on the Iranians' > part. But I from what > I remember of the Iran thing, you really can't say > Carter handled it > in the best possible manner. > > Dana ___

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2004-10-25 Thread dana tierney
based on "vote for me and things will be mistily better" is what it was. I recall no mention in those ads of military spending :) Dana On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:56:57 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Reagan ran a campaign called "A New Morning in > America" based on a more milit

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2004-10-25 Thread dana tierney
that was the Reagan spin at the time :P Dana On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:23:03 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You're so naïve. > > Iran knew Reagan wasn't going to sit around and wait > like Carter did. > They were terrified of Reagan. > > -sm > > --- Bill Wheatley <[EMAIL PR

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2004-10-25 Thread dana tierney
that's about the way I remember it On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:47:08 -0500, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bill wrote: > > What a bunch of knuckleheads. Listen and read sometimes you might > > figure things out. > > I was under the impression that Iran hated Mr. Carter and realized > that

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2004-10-25 Thread dana tierney
Screwed up, yes. But if the hostages were released *as* Reagan was sworn in you really can't give Reagan credit for freeing them, can you? Dana On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:30:49 -0500, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ken wrote: > > [Reagan] had more to do with the hostages coming home than an

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2004-10-25 Thread dana tierney
n chalked up. But I believe his presence had more to > do with the hostages coming home than anything Carter did. > > > -Original Message- > From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 9:32 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: R

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2004-10-25 Thread dana tierney
He had a recession and yeah, he had the Iran hostage thing. Reagan hung that around his neck like an albatross is why he was defeated. I am not sure the recession was his fault -- the Fed went to a monetary policy during his term. I always thought he got bad breaks, personally. Dana On Fri, 22 O

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2004-10-25 Thread dana tierney
No, the election after Carter's term wasn't anywhere near this nasty. Mind you, according to my morning paper, we have seen more political ads here in New Mexico (mostly negative) than anywhere else in the country except Miami. Dana On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 20:52:11 -0500, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTE

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2004-10-25 Thread Sam Morris
It's not worth arguing about. --- Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sam wrote: > > Reagan ran a campaign called "A New Morning in > > America" based on a more militarily aggressive > foreign > > policy and a restoration of the nation's military > > strength. > > No disagreement there, but

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2004-10-25 Thread Gruss Gott
Sam wrote: > Reagan ran a campaign called "A New Morning in > America" based on a more militarily aggressive foreign > policy and a restoration of the nation's military > strength. No disagreement there, but I don't think the fundamentalist Muslim Iranians really cared. Look at it this way - Mr.

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2004-10-25 Thread Sam Morris
Reagan ran a campaign called "A New Morning in America" based on a more militarily aggressive foreign policy and a restoration of the nation's military strength. -sm --- Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sam wrote: > > They were terrified of Reagan. > > I think that's going a bit far! >

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2004-10-25 Thread Won Lee
Gruss Gott wrote: > > I doubt the Iranians even knew Reagan and, if they did, they probably > weren't afraid of him. He was a B-movie actor and Governor of a > resort state. That CV doesn't exactly inspire fear. > That resort state would be the 13th largest economy in the world if it were to s

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2004-10-25 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > They were terrified of Reagan. I think that's going a bit far! I doubt the Iranians even knew Reagan and, if they did, they probably weren't afraid of him. He was a B-movie actor and Governor of a resort state. That CV doesn't exactly inspire fear. I think they just wanted to fl

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2004-10-25 Thread Sam Morris
You're so naïve. Iran knew Reagan wasn't going to sit around and wait like Carter did. They were terrified of Reagan. -sm --- Bill Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Carter did all the work people!! Getting released > the day reagan got > sworn on? Seriously how can anything think reagan >

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2004-10-25 Thread Gruss Gott
> Bill wrote: > What a bunch of knuckleheads. Listen and read sometimes you might > figure things out. I was under the impression that Iran hated Mr. Carter and realized that the hostages weren't scoring them any points so they had no reason to keep them except to spite Mr. Carter; which, for them

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2004-10-25 Thread Bill Wheatley
Carter did all the work people!! Getting released the day reagan got sworn on? Seriously how can anything think reagan did the leg work on it?? Come on 9/11 happens on the day bush gets sworn in its clintons fault. Hostages released the day reagan takes off its carters win. What a bunch of knuckle

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2004-10-22 Thread William Bowen
I think they were another group taken at the same time. Long time since I read the book, or saw the movie, though I do remember thinking at the time that Burt Lancaster was not really right to play H.Ross Perot... sort of like Gearge C. Scott playing Patton...not weasely looking enough... :-) --

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2004-10-22 Thread Gruss Gott
Ken wrote: > [Reagan] had more to do with the hostages coming home than anything Carter did. The way you and Sam have described it is the gist I have. From what I remember Mr. Carter really screwed up the whole hostages deal. BTW - which were the hostages that Ross Perot famously freed as descri

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2004-10-22 Thread Sam Morris
In case you can't tell, I don't like Carter:) http://www.nationalreview.com/flashback/flashback-nordlinger101102.asp Here are some snippets: Carter’s biographer and analyst: "The intifada exposed the injustice Palestinians suffered, just like Bull Connor’s mad dogs in Birmingham." At their firs

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2004-10-22 Thread Ken Ketsdever
d up. But I believe his presence had more to do with the hostages coming home than anything Carter did. -Original Message- From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 9:32 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: electoral college Carter released the hostages?

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2004-10-22 Thread Sam Morris
Carter released the hostages? I thought the Dems claimed Reagan bribed Iran not to release them? October surprise? For 444 days Carter did nothing. He even claims today if he could go back he'd do the same thing. He was told when to go in with the choppers and do the rescue and when not to becaus

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2004-10-22 Thread Bill Wheatley
bah On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 10:30:58 -0400, Harkins, Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > whew! long term of office! ;-) > > > >-Original Message- > > >What issues during the 1777-1981 administration can people blame on > >him that were as bad as bush? > > Outbound email scanned for virus

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2004-10-22 Thread Harkins, Patrick
lol >-Original Message- >From: Jerry Johnson > > >Naw, its just that everything that happened before Reagonomics >saved the country is the Democrats fault. > >Jerry Johnson > [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/22/04 10:30AM >>> >whew! long term of office! ;-) > > >>-Original Message- > >>W

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2004-10-22 Thread Jerry Johnson
Naw, its just that everything that happened before Reagonomics saved the country is the Democrats fault. Jerry Johnson >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/22/04 10:30AM >>> whew! long term of office! ;-) >-Original Message- >What issues during the 1777-1981 administration can people blame on >hi

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2004-10-22 Thread Harkins, Patrick
whew! long term of office! ;-) >-Original Message- >What issues during the 1777-1981 administration can people blame on >him that were as bad as bush? Outbound email scanned for viruses. (e230) ~| Purchase from Hous

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2004-10-22 Thread Bill Wheatley
Poor Jimmy Carter. Jimmy Carter was a peace maker not a warmonger like bush. I think the one similarity that people are pissed off during the bush administration and were pissed during carter doesn't mean they are similar. What issues during the 1777-1981 administration can people blame on him

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2004-10-22 Thread Gruss Gott
Bill wrote: > You must nto have done any research into what Jimmy Carter You're right. > He was more then just some knucklehead for the past 4 years. Why is that the greater perception then? I guess that's my point. Most people didn't like the Carter years. While you can technically talk him

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2004-10-22 Thread Bill Wheatley
You must nto have done any research into what Jimmy Carter did because he was responsible for the Iran Hostages being released. He was responsible for them not being hurt he told them point blank if you kill someone we'll invade and if you hurt one of them we'll make sure you never trade with the o

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2004-10-21 Thread Gruss Gott
> Robert wrote: > It could get very ugly before it is all said and done. I think it's been ugly since he got to office and I don't mean that as a partisan shot. I just mean that from day 1 Mr. Bush has been a divisive figure and things have gone downhill from there. Yes, we had 9/11, but after 9

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2004-10-21 Thread dana tierney
Amen. If they won't even get done counting the absentee ballots for a few days... it could all come down to the provisional ballots. On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:02:31 -0400, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >for sure > > > >> predictors are. This is really going to be a nail biter. > >

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2004-10-21 Thread Robert Munn
>for sure > >> predictors are. This is really going to be a nail biter. I think there is a 50-50 chance we will not know who won the election for days or even weeks. Like last time, only this time it looks like both camps are arming for a legal all-out battle royale over the results in any stat

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2004-10-21 Thread Robert Munn
>Once bush gets thrown out of the white house on his ear by the right >half of the population don't you mean the left half? ~| Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http

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2004-10-21 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Well, then I am double-cursed! And I am not rich -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott > Andy wrote: > All in all, like the Chinese curse: May you live in interesting times. And > we, folks, live in very interesting times. No doubt there. I think the rest of that curse is: may you mar

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2004-10-21 Thread Bill Wheatley
Once bush gets thrown out of the white house on his ear by the right half of the population (again) i suppose i will just a little miss the antics of his crazy administration. On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 23:14:05 -0500, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Andy wrote: > > All in all, like the Chines

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2004-10-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Andy wrote: > All in all, like the Chinese curse: May you live in interesting times. And > we, folks, live in very interesting times. No doubt there. I think the rest of that curse is: may you marry a beautiful woman, may you inherit a fortune. ~~

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2004-10-20 Thread Andy Ousterhout
True. And this election has a lot of unknowns. First, how and how many of will the newly register young vote. Second, there appears to be a movement of older blacks to the republican party. Meaning Bush may get 17-19 % versus 4-5. But for Kerry, this could be significant. All in all, like the

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2004-10-20 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Given the way the electoral college is structured, to me this sort of presentation i smore meaningful. The only drawback I've seen in this sort of poll is that in an individual state the sample size of any one poll may not be large enough to ensure any real reliability. larry On Wed, 20 Oct 2004

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2004-10-20 Thread dana tierney
for sure > predictors are. This is really going to be a nail biter. ~| The annual ColdFusion User Conference is being held Sat 6/26 - Sun 6/27/04 8am-5pm in the Washington DC Area. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm

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2004-10-20 Thread Andy Ousterhout
The site is very interesting. If you hover over a state, the actual percentages show. It will be interesting to see how accurate these types of predictors are. This is really going to be a nail biter. -Original Message- From: dana tierney so... that's good news right? grin, duck and r

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2004-10-20 Thread dana tierney
so... that's good news right? grin, duck and run... Dana On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:09:13 -0500, Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Same sight, updated. Yesterday it estimated Kerry at 281. > > Andy > > > > -Original Message- > From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >

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2004-10-20 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Same sight, updated. Yesterday it estimated Kerry at 281. Andy -Original Message- From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 7:05 PM To: CF-Community Subject: electoral college http://www.electoral-vote.com/ Who said New Mexico was barely Bush? Is t

Re: Electoral College/DNC

2004-07-29 Thread dana tierney
should have asked for a statewide recount Sounds like you agree with me on that? Dana - Original Message - From: Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 21:52:31 -0400 Subject: RE: Electoral College/DNC To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You are correct, I was

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2004-07-29 Thread Robert Munn
>I'm with G on this one. Just count the people, count the votes.. Enough with >the electoral college bullshit. Read the Federalist Papers for a little historical background on our Constitution and why our government is structured the way it is. More to the point, it would require an amendment to

Re: Electoral College

2004-07-28 Thread Kevin Graeme
Yeah, "Mom rule" is bad. Moving out early is always a good choice. -Kevin On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:05:23 -0400, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Electoral College was created to prevent changes in government for light > and transient causes, something the founding fathers were very con

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2004-07-28 Thread Nick McClure
tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:29 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Electoral College/DNC On the statute...thank you. But doesnt this "entire geographic jurisdiction" language apply to local elections? Actually, though, it doesn't matter, because that

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2004-07-28 Thread dana tierney
ion of the current language at some point too. Dana - Original Message - From: Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 21:12:46 -0400 Subject: RE: Electoral College/DNC To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OK, here is the state law: http://makeashorterlink.com/?K

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2004-07-28 Thread Nick McClure
better chance to get more votes.   _   From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 7:49 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Electoral College/DNC interesting. I have never seen this interpretation. You sure about that part about the partial recount not being allowed

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2004-07-28 Thread Doug White
Message -   From: dana tierney   To: CF-Community   Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 6:38 PM   Subject: Re: Electoral College/DNC   hehe.   I have often said that South San Antonio might was well be in Mexico   :) LOL. For those unfamiliar, that's about what, 175 miles long and 30   miles

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2004-07-28 Thread dana tierney
Jul 2004 19:39:34 -0400 Subject: RE: Electoral College/DNC To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> When the ballot is not clear you are allowing the ballot to be interpreted by people who may have an agenda. The laws in the state of Florida only allow for a full statewide recount, Gore didn

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2004-07-28 Thread dana tierney
hehe :) - Original Message - From: Doug White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:40:59 -0500 Subject: Re: Electoral College/DNC To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am sure he thinks so as well. :-)   - Original Message -   From: dana tierney   he

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2004-07-28 Thread Doug White
I am sure he thinks so as well. :-)   - Original Message -   From: dana tierney   he should have asked for a statewide recount. I agree. I think :)   Dana [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

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2004-07-28 Thread dana tierney
dont realize, Beaumont is an old Louisiana-type town in the far SE of the state. Amarillo is in the northwest in the panhandle and and is cattle country. Dana - Original Message - From: Doug White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:29:10 -0500 Subject: Re: Electoral College

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2004-07-28 Thread Nick McClure
s then the Electors for Governor Bush would have been   _   From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 5:49 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Electoral College/DNC All of the votes were not counted. If Democrats caused votes to not be counted, that is wrong. If R

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2004-07-28 Thread Doug White
the Band Plays on. We will probably see more of this in November if the election is close.   - Original Message -   From: dana tierney   To: CF-Community   Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 6:14 PM   Subject: Re: Electoral College/DNC   I remember the Texas gerrymandering :) weren't

Re: Electoral College/DNC

2004-07-28 Thread dana tierney
he should have asked for a statewide recount. I agree. I think :) Dana - Original Message - From: Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 19:22:57 -0400 Subject: RE: Electoral College/DNC To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Simple, when the standards for

RE: Electoral College/DNC

2004-07-28 Thread Nick McClure
thus the intent of the voters would not be judged equally.   _   From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 4:20 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Electoral College/DNC how can the intent of the voter not be constitutional? As I recall there was an issue about

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2004-07-28 Thread dana tierney
aud? Dana - Original Message - From: Doug White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:20:12 -0500 Subject: Re: Electoral College/DNC To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This year the gerrymandering took place in Texas and Colorado - spearheaded by Representative Ton DeLay, R

Re: Electoral College

2004-07-28 Thread dana tierney
-0400 Subject: RE: Electoral College To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To me all your (very valid reasons) are exactly why we need the concessions we have for state population in the Legislative branch (and why our legislative branch is so comparatively complex), but not (I think) in the Exec

Re: Electoral College/DNC

2004-07-28 Thread Doug White
This year the gerrymandering took place in Texas and Colorado - spearheaded by Representative Ton DeLay, R-TX There is a battle going on already on voter fraud in one of the few remaining Democratic districts. I believe we will see much more to come soon.   - Original Message -   From:

Re: Electoral College/DNC

2004-07-28 Thread dana tierney
-0500 Subject: RE: Electoral College/DNC To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nah, I've never heard of a clean campaign. No, I mean actually managing the voting properly.  Not busing in students from out of state, no multiple voting, no extending polling times when it looked like

RE: Electoral College/DNC

2004-07-28 Thread Andy Ousterhout
 does not stand up to scrutiny.   imho :)   Dana   - Original Message -   From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:46:28 -0500   Subject: RE: Electoral College/DNC   To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   Ok, wrong term(damn, I am suffering from Bus

RE: Electoral College/DNC

2004-07-28 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Andy   -Original Message-   From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 4:40 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: Electoral College/DNC    you mean in terms of a clean campaign? Probably not; it's a big   country. But what does that have to do with whether

Re: Electoral College/DNC

2004-07-28 Thread dana tierney
From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:46:28 -0500 Subject: RE: Electoral College/DNC To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ok, wrong term(damn, I am suffering from Bush-idis).  How about "funny business".  I believe that one or more of the democraticall

Re: Electoral College/DNC

2004-07-28 Thread dana tierney
ednesday, July 28, 2004 2:52 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: RE: Electoral College/DNC   Good to tangle with you again   Question:  Did the democrats across run a lily clean election?  Or, just focus   on Florida.  Wasn't there something about Military ballets, for example.   Andy    

Re: Electoral College/DNC

2004-07-28 Thread Sam Morris
Republicans in power down there? Not in the districts that had the problems. > > Dana > > > - Original Message - > From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:52:28 -0500 > Subject: RE: Electoral College/DNC > To: CF

RE: Electoral College/DNC

2004-07-28 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Wednesday, July 28, 2004 3:17 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: Electoral College/DNC   There was something about military ballots. I'd have to look it up,   but there was something. However, aren't you assuming that those votes   would have been republican? And uh... correct me i

Re: Electoral College/DNC

2004-07-28 Thread dana tierney
ida court > to review, it found that their reason for allowing the recounts was not > Constitutional and that they must issue a ruling that satisfied the > constitution. > > > >   _   > > From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 200

RE: Electoral College/DNC

2004-07-28 Thread Andy Ousterhout
EMAIL PROTECTED]     Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 2:27 PM     To: CF-Community     Subject: Re: Electoral College/DNC     stop the gerrymandering?     - Original Message -     From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>     Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:32:54 -0500     Subject: RE: Electoral

Re: Electoral College/DNC

2004-07-28 Thread dana tierney
licans in power down there? Dana - Original Message - From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:52:28 -0500 Subject: RE: Electoral College/DNC To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Good to tangle with you again Question:  Did the democrats across run

Re: Electoral College/DNC

2004-07-28 Thread Sam Morris
Message - > From: Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 06:52:28 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: RE: Electoral College/DNC > To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > --- Sandy Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >   > > Didn't

RE: Electoral College/DNC

2004-07-28 Thread Andy Ousterhout
ly 28, 2004 2:27 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: Electoral College/DNC   stop the gerrymandering?   - Original Message -   From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:32:54 -0500   Subject: RE: Electoral College/DNC   To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTE

RE: Electoral College/DNC

2004-07-28 Thread Nick McClure
not Constitutional and that they must issue a ruling that satisfied the constitution.   _   From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 3:25 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Electoral College/DNC Negative. Florida law, already established in a previous

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