On Wednesday, Oct 16, 2002, at 06:13 US/Pacific, S. Isaac Dealey wrote:
>> [horrific factorial implemented with try/catch snipped]
> Yech... I pitty your server. :P
My Mac laptop, you mean? :)
In answer to Kola's question about try-catch in CF5: try-catch
generally introduces an overhead in eve
>>> Sent: 15 October 2002 15:31
>>> To: CF-Talk
>>> Subject: RE: switch-case was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE
>>> implemented?)
>>>
>>> The try isn't too expensive, but the catch can be. However, running a
>>> bunch of trys with
02 15:31
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: switch-case was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE
>> implemented?)
>>
>> The try isn't too expensive, but the catch can be. However, running a
>> bunch of trys within a loop can also degrade performance.
>>
> On Tuesday, Oct 15, 2002, at 17:26 US/Pacific, S. Isaac
> Dealey wrote:
>> Isaac the Butcher of Fusion ... :)
> Careful, that might stick! :)
At least then I'd be assured a reputation. :)
> [horrific factorial implemented with try/catch snipped]
>> Of course not... For starters, there are exi
On Tuesday, Oct 15, 2002, at 17:26 US/Pacific, S. Isaac Dealey wrote:
> Isaac the Butcher of Fusion ... :)
Careful, that might stick! :)
[horrific factorial implemented with try/catch snipped]
> Of course not... For starters, there are existing UDF's on cflib.org to
> handle factorials. :P And I
>> There have been a handful ( maybe a half dozen )
>> situations where I found
>> the was extremely helpful in creating an easily
>> human read/writeable
>> codeblock where the only alternative I could think of
>> would have been a horrible mess of spaghetti code.
> Yes, that is true. There are
On Tuesday, Oct 15, 2002, at 07:51 US/Pacific, S. Isaac Dealey wrote:
> I suppose I should clarify by saying that I haven't simply disregarded
> the
> original intent of all-together. I do use it mostly for error
> handling, although much of it is for custom error handling, such as
> server
> s
>> From: Benjamin S. Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>
>> A way to minimize the problem would be for New Atlanta to use a
>> different namespace (so to speak) for their tags. I'm not talking
>> something as complicated as XML namespaces, but simply using a different
>> naming scheme, such as .
> From: Benjamin S. Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> A way to minimize the problem would be for New Atlanta to use a
> different namespace (so to speak) for their tags. I'm not talking
> something as complicated as XML namespaces, but simply using a different
> naming scheme, such as . Ostens
Thanks Vince. I know I debate hard but in truth the only thing I was worried
about was the possibility of a language split and the weakening of CF
because of it. Have you thought of placing some of the changes in BD into
custom tags (CFX, COM, Class, etc.) for distribution?
> Other than the part
ww.c4.net/
v.508.240.0051
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Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 9:36 AM
To: CF-Talk
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| From: Ken Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTE
M
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?)
Regarding the addition of tags to "non-Macromedia" implementations of
CFML-parsers/application-servers:
I can't see any problem at all, as long as there are new additions they
should just be seen as &quo
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From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 6:05 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?)
Other
]
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 4:33 AM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: switch-case was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is
>> CFMX J2EE implemented?)
>>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Sean, have I missed something, are you saying try and catch add a
>> signi
ry / catch for flow control.
hope that helps...
mike chambers
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> -Original Message-
> From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 4:33 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: switch-case was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is
om: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 9:22 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?)
>
>
> Vince Bonfanti wrote:
>
> a lot that I like
>
> > 3) Any CFML enhancements introduced
sons.
> Vince Bonfanti
> New Atlanta Communications, LLC
> http://www.newatlanta.com
>> -Original Message-
>> From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:48 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How
damn keyboard shortcuts...
>> I've used try catch for a number of non-error handling
>> items .. properly implemented, it works pretty well. Or at
>> least it has for me.
>
> Have you timed it? (I won't even start on the stylistic
> implications of this!)
I guess I probably should explicitely ti
| -Original Message-
| From: Ken Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Not exactly. Custom tags can be easily copied to another server. That
| can't be said for something that is integrated into the server itself.
| So any app that relies on that functionality breaks if it
| gets moved to
|
> On Monday, Oct 14, 2002, at 17:13 US/Pacific, S. Isaac
> Dealey wrote:
>> There is another way to simulate variables or ranges in a
>> case statement with a cftry and cfcatch blocks...
> try/catch is a pretty heavy operation - you should only
> use it for (unexpected) error cases, not normal op
Vince Bonfanti wrote:
a lot that I like
> 3) Any CFML enhancements introduced by BlueDragon are proprietary
> and are not part of the CFML standard, and will be clearly documented
> as such. Of course, we will be delighted if/when Macromedia adopts any
> of our enhancements as official part
>It is not much different than having a different set
>of custom-tags, on different servers.
Not exactly. Custom tags can be easily copied to another server. That
can't be said for something that is integrated into the server itself.
So any app that relies on that functionality breaks if it get
Regarding the addition of tags to "non-Macromedia" implementations of
CFML-parsers/application-servers:
I can't see any problem at all, as long as there are new additions they
should just be seen as "customtags implemented in the server". It is not
much different than having a different set of cu
uld not advocate that Macromedia turn CFML over to some third-party
standards body.
Cheers,
Vince Bonfanti
New Atlanta Communications, LLC
http://www.newatlanta.com
> -Original Message-
> From: Judith Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:51 PM
> 2. throw in cfscript
Just to be anal - this is trivial with a UDF in CFMX. Yes, it would be
nicer for it to be 'native', but it would be a pretty simple UDF. I'll
add it to cflib.org if it isn't there already. I'll also update my
include() udf to support includes JSP. This will make it like BDs
) for performance reasons.
Vince Bonfanti
New Atlanta Communications, LLC
http://www.newatlanta.com
> -Original Message-
> From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:48 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J
Michael Dinowitz wrote:
> I understand companies who have a fear of Macromedia and Microsoft
> going away so they want the languages to be standardized. But let me
> ask something really blunt. What standard do you mean? The MS
> standard? The Java standard?
I think Java would be a good examp
switch-case was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE
>> implemented?)
>>
>>
>> try/catch is a pretty heavy operation - you should only use it for
>> (unexpected) error cases, not normal operation...
>>
:)
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From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFML standardization (was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is
CFMX J2EE implemented?))
You know, to make Basic coders happy, how about:
And to make us C/C
l Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:26 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?)
>
> But only one Java.
>
>
> > I agree, whole-heartedly with all that!.
> >
> > However, I don.
was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is
CFMX
> J2EE implemented?))
>
> No, BD is a parser for the CFML language. It takes CFML and gives out
a
> result AS IF it was running on ColdFusion.
>
>
> > BlueDragon is not a copy of ColdFusion; it is an implementation of
CFML.
> &g
Monday, October 14, 2002 10:51 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?)
>
> I am all for healthy competition, but I'm wondering if introducing new
> tags into a different flavor of ColdFusion is a good idea. In the
current
> economy
But only one Java.
> I agree, whole-heartedly with all that!.
>
> However, I don.t think anyone can copyright a language, only the
> implementation of the language,
>
> For precedent, there are lots of CoBOLs, ForTrans, BASICs, out there.
>
> Dick
>
>
> On Monday, October 14, 2002, at 07:50 PM,
> Can you give a source for this? I'd like to know why CFML can't be
> copywrited.
>
I don't think CFML is copyrighted. I believe that CFML is simply a
syntax that is implemented by a copyrighted work. Thus, the
implementation is protected, but not the syntax. As it is, the full
syntax must be di
oftware.com/
> 888-408-0900 x901
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 9:26 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: CFML standardization (was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is
> CFM
On Monday, Oct 14, 2002, at 20:04 US/Pacific, Matt Liotta wrote:
> What happened to cffinally anyway? It was in the beta of Neo and then
> later taken out.
I guess there wasn't time before launch to finish and fully QA the
implementation of that tag? A lot of things changed between the beta
and
dardization (was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is
CFMX
> J2EE implemented?))
>
> And to this I have say, so what? MM has the say on what's part of CF
and
> what's not. Sun has a say on what's part of Java and what's not. MS
has a
> say on what's part of their
I hear you. I guess it was only time before we had another parser for CF. It is
(perversely) a sign of ColdFusion's acceptance in the marketplace.
Judith
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urrent economy, when we should be working to
> strengthen ColdFusion in the marketplace,
I think.. we are on the same page...
Joe
> -Original Message-
> From: Judith Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:51 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re:
2002 9:26 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CFML standardization (was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is
CFMX
> J2EE implemented?))
>
> Let me see if I follow your second argument here. I create a work.
Someone
> else copies the work. Because that someone else copied my work, I
shou
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> -Original Message-
> From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 9:14 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CFML standardization (was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is
CFMX
> J2EE implemented?))
>
>
On Monday, October 14, 2002, at 07:41 PM, Michael Dinowitz wrote:
>> If I understand correctly, the language, CFM, can not (or can no
>> longer) be copyrighted -- only implementations of the language. (I
>> don't necessarily agree with this, but apparently that's the way is
>> is).
> Can you
On Monday, Oct 14, 2002, at 19:30 US/Pacific, Dick Applebaum wrote:
> Rather than have the chaos of Babel, at some point, if there are lots
> of implementers of CFML, control of the (non-copyrighted) CFML language
> should be placed in the hands on an independent entity.
Well, we told Sun that ba
I agree, whole-heartedly with all that!.
However, I don.t think anyone can copyright a language, only the
implementation of the language,
For precedent, there are lots of CoBOLs, ForTrans, BASICs, out there.
Dick
On Monday, October 14, 2002, at 07:50 PM, Judith Dinowitz wrote:
> I am all
I am all for healthy competition, but I'm wondering if introducing new tags into a
different flavor of ColdFusion is a good idea. In the current economy, when we should
be working to strengthen ColdFusion in the marketplace, I think this will lead to more
confusion, a diversion of the marketsha
> If I understand correctly, the language, CFM, can not (or can no
> longer) be copyrighted -- only implementations of the language. (I
> don't necessarily agree with this, but apparently that's the way is is).
Can you give a source for this? I'd like to know why CFML can't be
copywrited.
> Wha
On Monday, October 14, 2002, at 06:42 PM, Miller, Kevin wrote:
> Let me see if I follow your second argument here. I create a work.
> Someone
> else copies the work. Because that someone else copied my work, I
> should
> give up control of it to a third person? The entire system of
> intellect
er 14, 2002 10:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFML standardization (was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is
CFMX J2EE implemented?))
Ben,
CFScript.. looks and adopts some good features of Java/C++.. why not
allow CFScript.. to have a strong language type? atleast as an optional
coding style...for thos
k
> Subject: Re: CFML standardization (was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is
> CFMX J2EE implemented?))
>
>
> On Monday, Oct 14, 2002, at 19:00 US/Pacific, Joe Eugene wrote:
> > Sean... there are alot of instances.. where we need strongly typed
> > language or code... we h
etermines that.
>
> Kevin
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:26 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CFML standardization (was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is
> CFMX J2EE implemented?))
>
>
On Monday, Oct 14, 2002, at 19:00 US/Pacific, Joe Eugene wrote:
> Sean... there are alot of instances.. where we need strongly typed
> language or code... we have proven this before...
No, no one has *proven* anything. In fact, other languages manage just
fine without strong types - which obviou
ctober 14, 2002 9:34 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CFML standardization (was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is
> CFMX J2EE implemented?))
>
>
> You know, to make Basic coders happy, how about:
>
>
> And to make us C/C++ coders happy, pre-processor directives:
>
>
ongly typed
language or code... we have proven this before...
Joe
> -Original Message-
> From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 9:14 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CFML standardization (was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is
> CFMX
Never! We want it ALL! CF will take over the WORLD!
;)
| -Original Message-
| From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:34 PM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: CFML standardization (was RE: BlueDragon (was
| RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented
s part of the CFML language. Right
now, MM is the only group that determines that.
Kevin
-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFML standardization (was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is
CFMX J2
RE: How is
CFMX J2EE implemented?))
On Monday, Oct 14, 2002, at 18:00 US/Pacific, Dick Applebaum wrote:
> I should probably stay out of this--- oh, what the hell.
Now look what you've started! :)
> BTW, Vince, I'd like typing of variables and Nulls in CFML :)
Hey Vince, ya wann
: How is
CFMX J2EE implemented?))
On Monday, October 14, 2002, at 06:14 PM, Sean A Corfield wrote:
> Now look what you've started! :)
>
>
Gotcha -- I knew you were there.
Seriously, I do think that without control and standardization of the
CFML language, all implementations (a
On Monday, October 14, 2002, at 06:14 PM, Sean A Corfield wrote:
> Now look what you've started! :)
>
>
Gotcha -- I knew you were there.
Seriously, I do think that without control and standardization of the
CFML language, all implementations (and users) will suffer!
Dick
Let me see if I follow your second argument here. I create a work. Someone
else copies the work. Because that someone else copied my work, I should
give up control of it to a third person? The entire system of intellectual
copywrite that exists at the moment would cause this to fail and rightfully
On Monday, Oct 14, 2002, at 18:00 US/Pacific, Dick Applebaum wrote:
> I should probably stay out of this--- oh, what the hell.
Now look what you've started! :)
> BTW, Vince, I'd like typing of variables and Nulls in CFML :)
Hey Vince, ya wanna see my feature wishlist? It's *really* long!!
In n
On Monday, Oct 14, 2002, at 17:13 US/Pacific, S. Isaac Dealey wrote:
> There is another way to simulate variables or ranges in a case
> statement
> with a cftry and cfcatch blocks...
try/catch is a pretty heavy operation - you should only use it for
(unexpected) error cases, not normal operatio
I should probably stay out of this--- oh, what the hell.
I think that a lot of excellent points have been made in this thread.
Here are my thoughts:
1) One entity should own and control the CFML language!
2) Any number of entities can/should offer competitive implementations
of the language!
The ability to spawn a function into multiple, concurrent threads to
complete a request in parallel?
Stace
-Original Message-
From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 5:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented
(was RE: How is CFMX J2EE
implemented?)
> Since we are on a wish list, I would rather just have the
> ability to use variables in a case statement. Then you
> could do a hack like
>
> myrange="";
> for(i=30; i lt 45; i=i+1){
> devnul
> Since we are on a wish list, I would rather just have the
> ability to use variables in a case statement. Then you
> could do a hack like
>
> myrange="";
> for(i=30; i lt 45; i=i+1){
> devnull = listAppend(myrange,i,",");l
> }
>
>
>
> ...
>
> there have been other insta
On Monday, Oct 14, 2002, at 16:06 US/Pacific, Mosh Teitelbaum wrote:
> Macromedia's perceived lack of response has been a fairly popular
> topic on
> this list. While I don't completely agree with the perception,
> anything
> that allows developers greater interaction with MM (such as a JCP-lik
> No, the ZIPs aren't common usage, but I've certainly had
> to deal with it a lot. Just used them to illustrate the
> point. Another issue with the same application was doing
> age ranges. Simple to type ''30 to 45'' and annoying to
> have to type out ''30,31,32,33...'' etc.
Yea, I'd probably
CTED]
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> -Original Message-
> From: Rob Rohan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:48 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: switch-case was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE
> implemented?)
>
>
> Since we are on
Jochem van Dieten wrote:
> How much does CF *really* need? Pseudocode:
>
>...blahblahblah...
> 93940, 93950,
> 94086 TO 95050")>
>...blahblahblah...
>
>...blahblahblah...
>
> You just have to write mySwitch() once and put that in
> your standard UDF includefile.
I'm n
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> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:01 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: CFML standardization (was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX
> J2EE implemented?))
>
&g
Jochem van Dieten wrote:
> How much does CF *really* need? Pseudocode:
>
> ...blahblahblah...
> 95050")>
> ...blahblahblah...
>
> ...blahblahblah...
>
> You just have to write mySwitch() once and put that in your standard UDF
> includefile.
Yes, I could write my ow
> From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Of course, the price of this ease of coding may be horrifying
> > performance for both CF and Blue Dragon... but you asked ;D
>
> I always believed the whole point of a switch statement was that only
> the switch side had to be evaluated as
ance were a variable in a case would have been a
life saver.
-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: switch-case was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE
implemented?)
No, the ZIPs aren'
; Joe
> -Original Message-
> From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 5:05 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE
> implemented?)
> Yep, understood. That's why we're also planning to
Matt Robertson wrote:
> 5 lines of code, total. While you could do this without *too* much
> more CF code, this is a very simple example. Doing U.S. ZIP code
> ranges, where you are selecting combinations of individual ZIPs and
> ranges - can be coded in a LOT fewer lines if you allow someth
---
From: Eugene, Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?)
Great... i think i am starting to like Blue Dragon, atleast they are
receptive
and want to listen to developers problems and issues
No, the ZIPs aren't common usage, but I've certainly had to deal with it a lot. Just
used them to illustrate the point. Another issue with the same application was doing
age ranges. Simple to type ''30 to 45'' and annoying to have to type out
''30,31,32,33...'' etc.
What I'm curious about i
October 14, 2002 5:05 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?)
>
>
> Yep, understood. That's why we're also planning to support the
> GetPageContext() function (though not in the service pack). We're
> hopeful that if
I should probably keep my nose out of this one. :)
> Ah... this is why competition is good.
> I don't have a new feature, per se, but I do have a pet
> peeve that came about from porting an app written in
> another language to an online CF version.
> The CFCASE portion of CFSWITCH is sorely lim
TED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 5:05 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?)
>
> Yep, understood. That's why we're also planning to support the
> GetPageContext() function (though not in the service pack). We're
> h
ttp://www.newatlanta.com
>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: Mosh Teitelbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:47 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?)
>>
>>
>> Not t
know what it
is and I'll see if we can get it implemented in BlueDragon."
Joe
-Original Message-
From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 5:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?)
Yep, understood. T
n.
Vince Bonfanti
New Atlanta Communications, LLC
http://www.newatlanta.com
> -Original Message-
> From: Mosh Teitelbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:47 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?)
>
>
>
using Struts; BlueDragon allows CFML pages
>> to participate very nicely as the presentation layer of a Struts-based
>> web application. (I'm trying to get the engineer who implemented it to
>> write a white paper on this; if I'm successful we'll post the white
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:24 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?)
>
>
> For what it
e engineer who implemented it to
write a white paper on this; if I'm successful we'll post the white
paper on our web site).
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:55 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: BlueDra
I've experimented with BlueDragon also. I looked at it just before they
released the new version. It's pretty easy to get up and running. I'm hoping
they get a version with MX functionality pretty soon but am still looking at
the V5 version. An application we are working on will need a CF back end
, 2002 2:11 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?
Great.. Learn somthing new everyday.. Now...
Has anybody deployed any CF applications on Blue Dragon..
How are they working? Any issues?
Joe
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From: "Chris Norloff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&
Has anybody deployed any CF applications on Blue Dragon..
>How are they working? Any issues?
>
>Joe
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Chris Norloff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 5:43 P
I thought I would change the subject to better reflect the topic of this
thread.
Joe asks...
> Has anybody deployed any CF applications on Blue Dragon..
> How are they working? Any issues?
I've played with BlueDragon only enough to know that is does work. We
are currently in the process of remov
October 13, 2002 5:43 PM
Subject: RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?
> I disagree. I like to hear about other ways to "do" CFML, particularly in
the J2EE arena.
>
> And Vince Bonfanti, of Blue Dragon fame, gave an excellent and informative
talk on CF & J2E
o so.
>
>Kind Regards - Mike Brunt, CTO
>Webapper
>http://www.webapper.com
>Downey CA Office
>562.243.6255
>AIM - webappermb
>
>"Webapper - Making the NET work"
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Fr
3 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?
>
> I think this post is VERY disrespectful on the CF Talk list. Most of
us
> are
> aware of Blue Dragon and should we wish to use will do so.
>
> Kind Regards - Mike Brunt, CTO
> Webapper
> http://www.weba
Mike Brunt wrote:
> I think this post is VERY disrespectful on the CF Talk list.
Why?
Jochem
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--Original Message-
From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 12:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?
Greg,
This isn't a direct answer to your questions, but you should be aware of
BlueDragon/J2EE, which offers the following
TECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 4:08 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?
>
> Boy Vince, you sure are pushing Blue Dragon. Oh wait, that's right,
you
> work for them! By the way, how do you keep from being sued by
Macromedia?
> Isn'
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To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 2:55 PM
Subject: RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?
> Greg,
>
> This isn't a direct answer to your questions, but you should be aware of
> BlueDragon/J2EE, which offers the following
atlanta.com/products/bluedragon/index.cfm
Regards,
Vince Bonfanti
New Atlanta Communications, LLC
http://www.newatlanta.com
> -Original Message-
> From: Greg McDaniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 3:08 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: How is CFMX J
> Can anyone answer or point me to a resource about the questions below?
>
Sure
> How does the CFMX for J2EE run on a J2EE platform?
>
CFMX is simply a J2EE application that is run by a J2EE application
server.
> Is there a CF stub that has to be installed in a
> J2EE Server that allows it to i
> How does the CFMX for J2EE run on a J2EE platform?
> Is there a CF stub that has to be installed in a
> J2EE Server that allows it to interpret CFMX or
> does CFMX produce compiled byte code that
> can run on the targeted hosting environment?
There's a CF "stub" that has to be installed on a J2
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