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CPUs, the J2EE server pricedper CPU.http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/product_info/features.cfmYves-Original Message-From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: September 26, 2003 10:41 AMTo: CF-TalkSubject: RE: Bluedragon Licensing et al.Yves -Any idea where I could get
Alright, thanks Daniel, I appreciate the help. M -Original Message- From: Daniel Ganter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 9:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Bluedragon Licensing et al. Mike, The license is for a server, with no restrictions on the number of cpus
Ah there is the answer.:-)Hey, my board supports multiple CPUs. might be an idea for us over hereeventually.- Yves --Original Message-From: Daniel Ganter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: September 26, 2003 10:54 AMTo: CF-TalkSubject: RE: Bluedragon Licensing et al.Mike,The license
On Tuesday 02 Sep 2003 16:02 pm, Jillian Carroll wrote:
Has anybody installed it successfully on this OS? What about later
versions of Apache (they recommend 1.3.27)
If it's only the Apache that is the sticking point, go get a copy of
ApacheTool box and roll your own (rpm) of Apache 1.3, as
Yes, BlueDragon 3.0.2 is supported on Red Hat 9 (though I'm not sure if the
web site has been updated to reflect this). Of course, when it's released
BlueDragon 3.1 will also run on Red Hat 9.
BlueDragon 3.1 will support Apache 2.0, as well as the older Apache 1.3.x
releases.
Vince Bonfanti
New
BD website states: Package portable CFML applications
within standard J2EE Web ARchive (WAR) and Enterprise
ARchive (EAR) files;
Is this feature available in all versions of BD? Or just
specific ones? I think as a developer, it would be amazing
to be able to whip up a self-installing
On Friday, Feb 28, 2003, at 11:26 US/Pacific, Jas Panesar wrote:
Thanks, I just slammed my head into my keyboard. What I meant to ask
about was the Compiled Binary Deployment feature.
BD apparently compiles all the code into one binary executable that can
be distributed.
I'm sure Vince will
Jas,
We have a pilot project under way with a select number of BlueDragon
customers to do exactly what you want to do. I'll contact you privately to
discuss the details.
Vince Bonfanti
New Atlanta Communications, LLC
http://www.newatlanta.com
-Original Message-
From: Jas Panesar
Contact Aaron Z. Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] about it.
Also, there's a seperate BlueDragon list on House of Fusion where BD specific
issues can be discussed. Hosting, install, admin and the like are perfect for
that list. In addition, there's a list on the DB site itself.
Howdy,
Is anyone hosting
Back to Perl, a Year or so ago when MS was showing
off .NET the said they had a Java and Perl CLR coming
down the line.
I think they have something called J#, which will let you compile your Java
source to MSIL. I wouldn't expect Microsoft to provide Perl.NET, but I
wouldn't be surprised if
BlueDragon for .NET is coded to the standard .NET Framework APIs (just as
BlueDragon for J2EE is coded to standard Java APIs). It's not a
re-implementation of the .NET Framework (which Microsoft's patents are
intended to prevent), but requires that the .NET Framework be installed in
order to use
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From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:55 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: BlueDragon for .NET (was: CF - PHP comparisons?)
BlueDragon for .NET is coded to the standard .NET Framework APIs (just
as
BlueDragon for J2EE is coded to standard Java APIs). It's
:32
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: BlueDragon for .NET (was: CF - PHP comparisons?)
Wow - I'm looking forward to seeing it. I would love to have some of
the classes I use in .NET available to CFML. Think about the ease of
report generation using Crystal Reports.NET with BD.NET. Easy report
generation
Adam,
Looks like you misread Vince's post. :)
The CF he was referring to (with full access to the .NET framework) wasn't
actually CF at all. It's a version of BlueDragon currently under development
by New Atlanta. Have a look at his CFDJ article:
Distance Education Division
-Original Message-
From: Chris Kief [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 12:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: BlueDragon for .NET (WAS CF - PHP comparisons?)
Adam,
Looks like you misread Vince's post. :)
The CF he was referring
Adam Wayne Lehman (aka Adrocknaphobia Jones) wrote:
So BlueDragon is really CF's only hope. (Although from what
I've seen I see no reason to belive BD won't deliver) So when
will BD.NET get into a phase where I can play with it? Is it
really being called BD.NET?
We'll put out a call
I'd ask them if they have examples of sites they know are using warez
software... :-)
At 03:48 PM 1/8/2003, you wrote:
At 6:39 PM 1/7/3, Vince Bonfanti wrote:
JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400/CPU = $4300/CPU
Tomcat + BlueDragon = Free + $1000/server = $1000/server
Hmm... how do you respond
Besides all that, I've often felt that I'd rather have
people steal my software than pay for my competitors. ;-)
Even stolen software is free advertising. :)
s. isaac dealey954-776-0046
new epoch http://www.turnkey.to
lead architect, tapestry cms
While our company is quite anal about licensing issues (in that every
instance is accounted for and all new software monitored/tracked) on a
personal level my belief is that pirated software has its placesome
may think that's a ridiculous statement but I truly think it can help
drive market
At 2:05 PM 1/9/3, Haggerty, Mike wrote:
That's not fair!
Please reread.
tx,
jd
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at great expense, and has worth in the
marketplace, what makes New Atlanta seem like a parasite?
I'm sure there is a better word...
M
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:52 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE
At 10:41 AM 1/9/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 3:48 PM 1/8/3, John Dowdell wrote:
At 6:39 PM 1/7/3, Vince Bonfanti wrote:
JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400/CPU = $4300/CPU
Tomcat + BlueDragon = Free + $1000/server = $1000/server
Hmm... how do you respond to
At 05:05 PM 1/9/2003, you wrote:
Despite the fact they are trying to undercut Macromedia's price, this
product was built over time at great expense, and has worth in the
marketplace, what makes New Atlanta seem like a parasite?
I'm sure he was talking about software pirates, not New Atlanta,
instance is accounted for and all new software monitored/tracked) on a
personal level my belief is that pirated software has its placesome
may think that's a ridiculous statement but I truly think it can help
drive market penetration and developer bases...
well when cf4 finally hit the
the higher road instead of taking a pot shot at a
competitor?
Benjamin S. Rogers
http://www.c4.net/
v.508.240.0051
f.508.240.0057
-Original Message-
From: John Dowdell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:52 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX
: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
At 10:41 AM 1/9/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 3:48 PM 1/8/3, John Dowdell wrote:
At 6:39 PM 1/7/3, Vince Bonfanti wrote:
JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400/CPU = $4300/CPU
Tomcat + BlueDragon = Free + $1000/server
That's not fair!
Please reread.
Uh, I've reread it, and I don't understand your original statement either.
At 6:39 PM 1/7/3, Vince Bonfanti wrote:
JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400/CPU = $4300/CPU
Tomcat + BlueDragon = Free + $1000/server = $1000/server
Hmm... how do you respond to
Come on Vince until you get up to the full library of CFML then its
worth paying for :-)
-Original Message-
From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2003 02:40
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400
-Talk
Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 20:24 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote:
One thing I will offer as a suggestion is to dumb-down the
installation proceedure for CFMXJ2EE on OSX. A lot of OSX users are
still getting comfortable with the Terminal
Quoting Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400/CPU = $4300/CPU
Tomcat + BlueDragon = Free + $1000/server = $1000/server
Well, as long as you can't buy 32 CPU Mac's ...
Jochem
--
Friends don't let friends use table-based layouts.
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 11:45 PM, Sean A Corfield wrote:
On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 20:24 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote:
One thing I will offer as a suggestion is to dumb-down the
installation
proceedure for CFMXJ2EE on OSX. A lot of OSX users are still getting
comfortable with
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 03:31 AM, Jochem van Dieten wrote:
Quoting Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400/CPU = $4300/CPU
Tomcat + BlueDragon = Free + $1000/server = $1000/server
Well, as long as you can't buy 32 CPU Mac's ...
Well, rumor has it
sales staff
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to get this pricing.
Vince Bonfanti
New Atlanta Communications, LLC
http://www.newatlanta.com/bluedragon
-Original Message-
From: Samuel Neff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE
:39 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
Come on Vince until you get up to the full library
of CFML then its worth paying for :-)
-Original Message-
From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 08 January 2003 02:40
To: CF-Talk
Flash Remoting?
-Original Message-
From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:08 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
Well, not according to our customers who have already paid for it. :-)
Seriously, the basic
He said things that CF5/MX can't do -- MX can do flash remoting. ;)
~Todd
At 10:11 AM 1/8/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Flash Remoting?
-Original Message-
From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:08 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE
: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:11 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
Flash Remoting?
-Original Message-
From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:08 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working
Having said all that, we're of course working towards full compliance with
CF5/MX.
Sorry should have been more specific.
-Original Message-
From: Todd Rafferty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:16 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working
to
implementing this function than ColdFusion's.
Matt Liotta
President CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901
-Original Message-
From: Todd Rafferty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:16 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: BlueDragon
Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:41 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 11:45 PM, Sean A Corfield wrote:
On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 20:24 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote:
One thing I
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-Original Message-
From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:41 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 11:45 PM, Sean A Corfield wrote:
On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 20:24
On Wednesday, Jan 8, 2003, at 07:07 US/Pacific, Vince Bonfanti wrote:
Seriously, the basic profile of our customers so far are people who are
migrating from ColdFusion to J2EE. That is, they have legacy CF 4.5
or 5.0
applications, but have made a strategic decision to do all future
On Wednesday, Jan 8, 2003, at 06:55 US/Pacific, Vince Bonfanti wrote:
Yes, BlueDragon allows you to create WAR files to deploy on any J2EE
server,
but you've got the licensing reversed. BlueDragon is free for
development
(like CFMX), so there's no cost for the development machines to create
Good points, all round. Thanx Dick! I've forwarded this to the product
team (and cc'd Christian of course).
On Wednesday, Jan 8, 2003, at 03:41 US/Pacific, Dick Applebaum wrote:
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 11:45 PM, Sean A Corfield wrote:
On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 20:24 US/Pacific,
On Wednesday, Jan 8, 2003, at 03:16 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote:
You're right, most Unix folks will want that kind of control. Frankly,
I
want that kind of control, I happen to like the command-line. However,
many, many Mac users are not hardcore Unix users - not yet anyway. A
lot
of
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
On Wednesday, Jan 8, 2003, at 06:55 US/Pacific, Vince Bonfanti wrote:
Yes, BlueDragon allows you to create WAR files to deploy on any J2EE
server,
but you've got the licensing reversed. BlueDragon is free for
development
(like
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Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 1:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
On Wednesday, Jan 8, 2003, at 03:16 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote:
You're right, most Unix folks will want that kind of control. Frankly,
I
want that kind of control, I happen
Our of curiosity, can you give us a rough breakdown of which
applications servers you're seeing people move to? Is it the free ones
like Tomcat and JBoss or is it the commercial ones? I ask because I
know you went to a lot of effort to support some of the commercial app
servers (BD's WAR
: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 2:55 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
Our of curiosity, can you give us a rough breakdown of which
applications servers you're seeing people move to? Is it the free
ones
like Tomcat and JBoss or is it the commercial ones? I
At 02:55 PM 1/8/2003, you wrote:
And look at the details -- let's say the price of the app you're selling is
$10k. $10k plus $799 for CF5 Pro on the dual proc production server and the
dual proc stage server is a nobrainer -- less that 15% of total. And it's
easy to manage CF -- the IT team
JavaOne conference You listening MM?!?
:)
Regards,
John Paul Ashenfelter
CTO/Transitionpoint
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From: Samuel R. Neff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working
Yes, good points, just one question. Isn't JBoss not a complete J2EE
server--excludes servlets and jsp, thus requiring another option for that
such as Tomcat but can be others? If that's the case, doesn't it make the
JBoss port that much harder to create an support...
/Jakarta/Apache a while back).
Regards,
John Paul Ashenfelter
CTO/Transitionpoint
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From: Samuel R. Neff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
Yes, good
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Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
JBoss is an EJB container and (usually) comes packaged with either
Jetty
or
Tomcat for the web container. With either one, it fills out the whole
stack
of J2EE components. Sort
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 12:59 PM, John Paul Ashenfelter wrote:
So anything that drops that J2EE price accelerates J2EE/CFMX hybrid
apps.
That's why I'd really love to see a JBoss version.
Which version of JBoss?
The JBoss site shows these versions:
Packages Size Date
On Wednesday, Jan 8, 2003, at 09:28 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote:
Another thing is that it's kind of annoying is that I have to manually
start Jrun ... I know, I know, shellscript, but that's Greek a lot of
Unix/OSX newbies. Starting Jrun/CFMX by default on bootup would be
nice.
Or at
.
Regards,
John Paul Ashenfelter
CTO/Transitionpoint
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From: Dick Applebaum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003
4:31 PM
Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
Those issues have been resolved and JBoss is on its way to being the
very first J2EE 1.4 certified application server.
Matt Liotta
President CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901
At 6:39 PM 1/7/3, Vince Bonfanti wrote:
JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400/CPU = $4300/CPU
Tomcat + BlueDragon = Free + $1000/server = $1000/server
Hmm... how do you respond to people who point out that they can get if for
free on a warez site...?
jd
John Dowdell, Macromedia Developer
http://treebeard.sourceforge.net
http://ruinworld.sourceforge.net
-Original Message-
From: John Dowdell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 3:49 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
At 6:39 PM 1/7/3, Vince Bonfanti wrote:
JRun 4 + CFMX
On Wednesday, Dec 11, 2002, at 07:11 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote:
If you're interested, just use the default Apache installation, then
download Tomcat from http://jakarta.apache.org, then download
BlueDragon
for J2EE from www.newatlanta.com and install them in order (Apache,
Tomcat,
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-Original Message-
From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
On Wednesday, Dec 11, 2002, at 07:11 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote:
If you're interested, just use the default
, 2003 1:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
On Wednesday, Dec 11, 2002, at 07:11 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote:
If you're interested, just use the default Apache
installation, then
download Tomcat from http://jakarta.apache.org, then download
On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 18:39 US/Pacific, Vince Bonfanti wrote:
JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400/CPU = $4300/CPU
FREE for development using the Developer Editions. CFMX for J2EE JRun
Mac OS X edition is not currently a supported production deployment
platform - only a development platform.
, 2003 1:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
On Wednesday, Dec 11, 2002, at 07:11 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote:
If you're interested, just use the default Apache
installation, then
download Tomcat from http://jakarta.apache.org, then download
BlueDragon
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-Original Message-
From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:51 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 18:39 US/Pacific, Vince Bonfanti wrote:
JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400/CPU = $4300/CPU
FREE
are you deploying on OS X? or do you plan to?
i would be interested in your input.
thanks...
mike chambers
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Joshua Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX
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From: Dick Applebaum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 06:39 PM, Vince Bonfanti wrote:
JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400/CPU = $4300/CPU
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-Original Message-
From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
are you deploying on OS X? or do you plan to?
i would be interested
-Original Message-
From: John Paul Ashenfelter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
I've got nothing against BlueDragon, but JRun for the extra
$3300 gives me little things like EJB
Isn't there a Bluedragon product that creates WAR files for deployment
on any J2EE server, whereby the only Bluedragon cost is for the
development machine used to create the WAR?
Perhaps I misread something...
A WAR file is fine unless you're actually taking advantage of J2EE
features
On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2003, at 20:24 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote:
One thing I will offer as a suggestion is to dumb-down the installation
proceedure for CFMXJ2EE on OSX. A lot of OSX users are still getting
comfortable with the Terminal and it's still scary for a lot of
developers who don't
On Wednesday, Dec 11, 2002, at 07:11 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote:
I know this is probably nothing special, but getting an easy-to-install
CFML engine on my Mac just made my day!
I just posted the following to the BACFUG list - after Vince's
presentation to the user group tonight.
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From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 10:22 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
I'm very interested...
are there any J2EE servers available for the MAC? If not why did you
choose the J2EE version?
Thanks
Kola
JBoss is written in Java, it should run on the Mac... Why not choose
the J2EE version if he is running Tomcat?
--
jon
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wednesday, December 11, 2002, 10:22:13 AM, you wrote:
KO I'm very interested...
KO are there any J2EE servers available for the MAC? If not why did
Matt
I'd like to play around with using EJBs and CFM. So this set up would
seem to support that.
Thanks.
-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 11 December 2002 15:30
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
Two points. First
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-Original Message-
From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 10:22 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
I'm very interested...
are there any J2EE servers available for the MAC? If not why did you
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Sent: 11 December 2002 15:30
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
Two points. First, JBoss is available for many platforms including OS
X.
Second, BlueDragon doesn't require a full J2EE server; it can run
with
just a servlet engine.
Matt Liotta
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-Original Message-
From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 10:49 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
JBoss is written in Java
Toys 'R' Us :O)
-Original Message-
From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 11 December 2002 16:17
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
Where can you get some EJB's to play with/
TIA
Dick
On Wednesday, December 11, 2002, at 07:52 AM, Kola Oyedeji
Tomcat is a J2EE server (not certified I don't think) - I did it this
way just because it was all free and easy to download and install. I'm
sure if someone makes a J2EE server for Mac that you could use something
other than Tomcat. Since NONE of the Macromedia products work on Mac
without a
At 05:49 PM 12/11/2002, you wrote:
Tomcat wasn't certified, because it didn't quite meet all the J2EE
requirements, but I believe it is fully J2EE certified/compliant etc.
Tomcat isn't certified J2EE?? I thought it was the reference
implementation of J2EE...
At 05:49 PM 12/11/2002, you wrote:
Tomcat wasn't certified, because it didn't quite meet all the J2EE
requirements, but I believe it is fully J2EE certified/compliant etc.
Tomcat isn't certified J2EE?? I thought it was the reference
implementation of J2EE...
whoops there was supposed
it immediately and
advise us by return e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-Original Message-
From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 12:50 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re
On Wednesday, December 11, 2002, at 10:03 AM, Samuel R. Neff wrote:
Tomcat isn't certified J2EE?? I thought it was the reference
implementation of J2EE...
If you go to Sun's site Tomcat is *Not* listed as a certified J2ee
server.
HTH
Dick
On Wednesday, December 11, 2002, at 09:49 AM, Stephen Moretti wrote:
I noticed in one of your other emails that you're using Tomcat and
Apache
together... We tried running an app with Tomcat and Apache. Damn
thing
kept trashing the server. Turns out there is known issue with the
There seems to be confusion on what J2EE compliant means
AFAIK
Tomcat _IS_ a J2EE compliant _Servlet_ container (and JSP)
Tomcat _IS_NOT_ a J2EE compliant _EJB_ container
Thats why you can get Jboss with Tomcat or JBoss with JBossWeb...
WG
Tomcat isn't certified J2EE?? I thought it was
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Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 11:08 AM
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Subject: RE: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
Tomcat is a J2EE server (not certified I don't think) - I did it this
way just because it was all free and easy to download and install. I'm
sure if someone makes a J2EE server for Mac
, December 11, 2002 12:50 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
Tomcat is a J2EE server (not certified I don't think) - I did it
this
way just because it was all free and easy to download and install.
I'm
sure if someone makes a J2EE server for Mac that you could
Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
At 05:49 PM 12/11/2002, you wrote:
Tomcat wasn't certified, because it didn't quite meet all the J2EE
requirements, but I believe it is fully J2EE certified/compliant etc.
Tomcat isn't certified J2EE?? I thought it was the reference
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-Original Message-
From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 1:12 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
At 05:49 PM 12/11/2002, you
On Wednesday, December 11, 2002, at 11:09 AM, Matt Liotta wrote:
Tomcat is NOT a J2EE server; it is a servlet engine. Tomcat does not
implement J2EE functionality like EJBs and JMS.
Does this mean that CFMXJ2ee won't work on Tomcat?
TIA
Dick
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Matt Liotta
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-Original Message-
From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 3:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working
Tomcat is not a support deployment server for CFMX for
J2EE nor is it even a J2EE application server. The
currently supported J2EE application servers are
Macromedia JRun, Sun One, and IBM WebSphere. I would
expect for Bea WebLogic to be supported soon and for
JBoss to be supported in
You think JBoss will be supported? Who'll pay for that integration
effort?
Yes, Macromedia of course. My understanding is that JBoss is quickly
becoming the 3rd most deployed J2EE application server after BEA and
IBM. Most people expect the deployments to substantially increase once
JBoss is
You are correct that JBoss relies generally on Tomcat for its servlet
engine.
-Matt
The (admitedly few) JBoss developers I know are very into the Jetty servlet
engine which is the other commonly bundled configuration of JBoss/web
container. The past couple versions (2.4.8+) of JBoss have
On Tuesday, Oct 15, 2002, at 17:26 US/Pacific, S. Isaac
Dealey wrote:
Isaac the Butcher of Fusion ... :)
Careful, that might stick! :)
At least then I'd be assured a reputation. :)
[horrific factorial implemented with try/catch snipped]
Of course not... For starters, there are existing
Subject: RE: switch-case was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE
implemented?)
The try isn't too expensive, but the catch can be. However, running a
bunch of trys within a loop can also degrade performance.
The catch generates significant overhead when an exception is thrown
because
was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE
implemented?)
The try isn't too expensive, but the catch can be. However, running a
bunch of trys within a loop can also degrade performance.
The catch generates significant overhead when an exception is thrown
because a copy of the stack has
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