From: "Owens, Howard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >Priority 0, errors that I find. (Not superseding the above list,
> >rather supersetting it.)
>
> Well, yeah ...
>
> But I've found that no matter how hard I try and plan and test,
> invariably a user thinks of some way to use an application that I
>>Priority 0, errors that I find. (Not superseding the above list,
rather
>>supersetting it.)
Well, yeah ...
But I've found that no matter how hard I try and plan and test,
invariably a user thinks of some way to use an application that I hadn't
anticipated. T
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From: Jeremy Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 16:10
To: CF-Talk
Subject:RE: CF 5.0 "Bug Vote" is Now Open!
See you are letting the software
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>
>1) Hiding code: I mean lets take a scenario like this! I have a serve
For future reference.
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> From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 06:17
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF 5.0 "Bug Vote" is Now Ope
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 October 2000 16:31
To: CF-Talk
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> 2) Com objects are dll's, so why can I be able to c
From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
.
>
> I'm going to turn this on it's head.
>
> You're right - there's a big difference between COM and CFX. If Allaire was
> going to expend resources on this issue, though, I'd much prefer them to
> extend their COM implementation, which frankly isn't too
well Dave!
regards
Andrew Scott
Senior Cold Fusion Application Developer
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From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 October 2000 16:17
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF 5.0 "Bug Vote" is Now Ope
> Correction:
>
> "I'm going to turn this on its head."
English Major in a previous life, eh? :)
> I know it's late when I make punctuation errors.
Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@ho
> 2) Com objects are dll's, so why can I be able to create a com
> object to use
> to do extra coding but I can't create a cfx which is also a dll.
> Your logic
> makes no sense. If I can decompile a cfx tag then I can decompile a com
> object! No!
I've decompiled programs before to reverse engin
Clocks help, too.
best, paul
At 01:17 AM 10/27/00 -0400, you wrote:
>I know it's late when I make punctuation errors.
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> I'm going to turn this on it's head.
Correction:
"I'm going to turn this on its head."
I know it's late when I make punctuation errors.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
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> 3) Com objects have no real interaction back to CF like the
> cfx tag allows it to be, so a com object is a short term
> solution to a large term problem. So this is why I am looking
> for this ability, it would make more sense for a MS house who
> already has VB skills to use these guys to
Com Objects and CFX Tags.
regards
Andrew Scott
Senior Cold Fusion Application Developer
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From: Jeremy Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 October 2000 15:06
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> On another issue CFX tags are becomming widely used for the
> safety of keeping code hidden from those who wish to decrypt.
> What I have been looking for since V3.1 is a way to create
> VBasic CFX tags, I know there is support for C/C++/Delphi but
> come on Delphi is not used much and its e
> Without starting a war, lets just allow us to create whatever we feel
> comfotable in creating these tags with, VBasci/Delphi/C++ or any other
> language people use.
go ahead. your allowed.
Archiv
able components in other places... :)
Jerem
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To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, October 26, 2000 11:30 PM
Subject: RE: CF 5.0 "Bug Vote" is Now Open!
>On another issue CFX tags are becomming
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From: Damon Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 October 2000 00:03
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF 5.0 "Bug Vote" is Now Open!
Cool. Again, of course we are striving towards the ultimate goal of zero
defects, but we have to
> > How many times have you referenced a Session variable or
> >called CFFILE without using CFLOCK?
>
> Using with is new to me. What is the reason
> for that?
Whenever you have a resource that can only be accessed by one request at a
time, you'll want to single-thread access to the resource
x27;ll take 'em as you send 'em.
Fire them at me please.
If you find a new reproducible crash, at least a t-shirt is in order :)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 16:12:10 -0700
From: "Jaime Garza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subj
Here is the breakdown at the company I work for:
P1 [Shiphold]: Any bug that causes ColdFusion, serious HTML, or script
error. Also includes issues with functionality that have no workaround.
P2 [Major]: Any bug that causes an error in functionality that has no
workaround or NN/IE compatibill
From: "Owens, Howard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Here's my priority list:
>
> Priority 1, errors the client finds;
> priority two, errors that can be easily reproduced;
> prority three, errors that a number of users are reporting;
> priority four, errors that only a few users are reporting,
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From: sebastian palmigiani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 26 October 2000 11:27
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF 5.0 "Bug Vote" is Now Open!
on 10/26/00 2:53 AM, Benjamin S. Rogers at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> How many times have you referenced
> a Session variable or called
ect: RE: CF 5.0 "Bug Vote" is Now Open!
Yea, I hear what you (and others) are saying, Gavin, and I understand it's
not a perfect world. Perhaps I overreacted and came across rudely, for
which I apologize (sorry Damon).
But frankly I'm so sick of dealing with buggy software
on 10/26/00 2:53 AM, Benjamin S. Rogers at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> How many times have you referenced
> a Session variable or called CFFILE without using CFLOCK?
Using with is new to me. What is the reason for that?
Sebastian
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Thanks Damon, it adds a touch of freshness to your organization. It also
adds certain passion and exposure, so beware!
I have not entered any bug in your DB, but I have been entering a group of
things in this forum with SP2 in the subject, hoping you or somebody from
Allaire would catch up. Wou
I heard that one in a lecture on software ethics. All they did was forget to
repopulate the dosage field after changing the type of radiation used.
I'm glad I don't have to deal with issues like that too.
Dave Watts wrote:
>
> > See you are letting the software train you...
> >
> > Tell that to
oblem in the first place.
Anyway just my $0.02 worth:-)
regards
Andrew Scott
Senior Cold Fusion Application Developer
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From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 26 October 2000 09:47
To: CF-Talk
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: CF 5.0 "B
> See you are letting the software train you...
>
> Tell that to the folks who depend on software to
> control the space shuttle that determines whether
> they live or die...
>
> Of course.. software is to complicated now a days
> guess we will have to tell the NASA people to go
> ahead and shut
mon Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 2:02 PM
Subject: RE: CF 5.0 "Bug Vote" is Now Open!
> My intention was to simply and directly involve the CF developer community
> in this, similar t
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> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 12:53 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF 5.0 "Bug Vote" is Now Open!
>
>
>
My guess would be you do your best to fix the errors that are
reported to
you and that you can verify and that how mu
It was my understanding that CF 5 wasn't going to be in Java... Personally I
think they should close all the bugs they can, bring that to production and
close everything with CF 4.6. I'd move everything over to a CF tag library
running on JRun before buying a half-assed CF point release.
But that
My intention was to simply and directly involve the CF developer community
in this, similar to what Sun has done with their Bug Parade Voting here:
http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/recently_closed.html
Bit of a "pilot project".
-
> See you are letting the software train you...
>
> Tell that to the folks who depend on software to
> control the space shuttle that determines whether
> they live or die...
>
> Of course.. software is to complicated now a days
> guess we will have to tell the NASA people to go
> ahead and shut
Yea, I hear what you (and others) are saying, Gavin, and I understand it's not a
perfect world. Perhaps I overreacted and came across rudely, for which I apologize
(sorry Damon).
But frankly I'm so sick of dealing with buggy software that when a company
representative comes out and implies
PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF 5.0 "Bug Vote" is Now Open!
> Well, as an Allaire customer, I say fix all the bugs.
>
> So you're saying some bugs will deliberately not be fixed in 5.0 unless
perhaps they win some popularity contest. Is that as absurd as it sounds or
is
i
Jim
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From: "Benjamin S. Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 1:53 AM
Subject: RE: CF 5.0 "Bug Vote" is Now
I far off?
Benjamin S. Rogers
Web Developer, c4.net
voice: (508) 240-0051
fax: (508) 240-0057
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From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 7:48 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF 5.0 "Bug Vote" is Now Open!
If you have known bugs
> Well, as an Allaire customer, I say fix all the bugs.
>
> So you're saying some bugs will deliberately not be fixed in 5.0 unless
perhaps they win some popularity contest. Is that as absurd as it sounds or is
it just me? Next time my client comes to me and says, hey, there are 10 bugs in
the p
Cc: Damon Cooper
Subject: Re: CF 5.0 "Bug Vote" is Now Open!
Well, as an Allaire customer, I say fix all the bugs.
So you're saying some bugs will deliberately not be fixed in 5.0 unless
perhaps they win some popularity contest. Is that as absurd as it sounds or
is it just me?
know much about this subject, so if i'm wrong i assume no
responsibility for property damage
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From: Max Paperno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 1:57 PM
To: CF-Talk
Cc: Damon Cooper
Subject: Re: CF 5.0 "Bug Vote" is Now Open!
Well
Well, as an Allaire customer, I say fix all the bugs.
So you're saying some bugs will deliberately not be fixed in 5.0 unless perhaps they
win some popularity contest. Is that as absurd as it sounds or is it just me? Next
time my client comes to me and says, hey, there are 10 bugs in the pro
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Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 10:39 AM
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> I want to make sure that you, our customers, have a major say in what goes
> into the release. We are reviewing all existing bug entries and will
&g
: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 17:48:20 -0600
From: "Jim McAtee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CF 5.0 "Bug Vote" is Now Open!
Message-ID: <06e001c03e14$e3da3390$062fa8ce@jimm>
If you have known bugs in CF 4.x (well, not *if*), why would you knowin
If you have known bugs in CF 4.x (well, not *if*), why would you knowingly
release the next major revision without correcting them Are you stating
that unless someone "votes" to remove a bug, we can expect to see it
perpetuated in the next release? Do bug fixes have that low of a priority
at
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