My company uses Perforce, which has a little learning curve but is a very cool
product that supports everything you are looking for and more. Well worth a
look, but unlike CVS/SVN, it is a commercial product.
What we are looking for is something that makes the release process
from server to
http://svnbook.red-bean.com/
On 11/11/05, Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
are there any straight forward how-to's out there on getting started with
CVS/Subversion? I am looking at setting it up for a tree of developers that
funnel into one trunk at a stable dev environment that then goes to
On 11/11/05, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://svnbook.red-bean.com/
The daily use guide in the TortoiseSVN help is extremely helpful with
the specifics for Tortoise. I'd also pick up a copy of Pragmatic
Version Control with Subversion from the Pragmatic Programmers
--
John Paul
Cameron Childress recently did a preso on SVN for the SDCFUG, you can get the
Powerpoint here:
http://www.sdcfug.org/downloads/CFSubversion.zip
are there any straight forward how-to's out there on getting started with
CVS/Subversion? I am looking at setting it up for a tree of developers that
CFEclipse's selling point isn't that it's better than DW or HS. I
don't think anyone (well, perhaps aside from a few zealots) will
disagree when I say that DW and HS are both better CFML editors that
CFEclipse. Markedly so. Ridiculously so.
However, what makes CFE the tool of choice for myriad
Prob an old topic on this list. But the archive didn't seem to contain
anything much except people saying, check the archive.
I need to setup proper source control on my dev server, something that is
friendly with both Dreamweaver MX and Homesite.
I know Visual Source Safe is, but I have heard
Depends on what you regard as bad reports, some have used VSS for years with
no worries.
Other than that...CVS and other derivatives.
-Original Message-
From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 November 2005 16:58
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Source control
Prob an old topic
Dude, switch to CFEclipse and you can use SubVersion, Perforce, VSS, CVS, or
practically any other SCM provider you want.
Prob an old topic on this list. But the archive didn't seem to contain
anything much except people saying, check the archive.
I need to setup proper source control on my dev
VSS.
Prob an old topic on this list. But the archive didn't seem to contain
anything much except people saying, check the archive.
I need to setup proper source control on my dev server, something that is
friendly with both Dreamweaver MX and Homesite.
I know Visual Source Safe is, but I have
Also, if you use Eclipse, it has it's own little version history
thingy. I'd still suggestion Subversion or CVS, but it's better than
nothing.
On 11/10/05, Robert Munn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dude, switch to CFEclipse and you can use SubVersion, Perforce, VSS, CVS, or
practically any other
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Sent: 10 November 2005 17:49
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Source control
Also, if you use Eclipse, it has it's own little version history thingy. I'd
still suggestion Subversion or CVS, but it's better than nothing.
On 11/10/05, Robert Munn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dude, switch
has a way to go before it replaces homesite.
Russ
-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 November 2005 17:49
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Source control
Also, if you use Eclipse, it has it's own little version history thingy. I'd
still suggestion
topic on this list. But the archive didn't seem to contain
anything much except people saying, check the archive.
I need to setup proper source control on my dev server, something that is
friendly with both Dreamweaver MX and Homesite.
I know Visual Source Safe is, but I have heard so many bad
I've settled into using Subversion with TortoiseSVN - the resulting
native integration with the desktop on Windows is fantastic. This
makes it easy to use any editor (Eclipse, DW, notepad).
On 11/11/05, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We're using CVS right now, but I've used VSS in the
are there any straight forward how-to's out there on getting started with
CVS/Subversion? I am looking at setting it up for a tree of developers that
funnel into one trunk at a stable dev environment that then goes to UAT,
staging and production. can cvs handle the entire progression?
Thanks
On
What does SVN give you that VSS does not?
-Original Message-
From: jonese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 October 2005 17:30
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SOT: Source Control Theory.
Hey all,
We recently moved from VSS to SVN (please quit with the applause) and while
we are using it we
On Thursday 27 October 2005 11:06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
What does SVN give you that VSS does not?
It works everywhere*.
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In what way? As in it is not Windows only? That is hardly a powerful
reason... (as I assume they are on Windows now.)
-Original Message-
From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 October 2005 11:21
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Source Control Theory.
On Thursday 27
What does SVN give you that VSS does not?
http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.1/ch02s02.html
VSS use Lock-Modify-Unlock, SVN can use both Copy-Modify-Merge and
Lock-Modify-Unlock. I very much prefer the Copy-Modify-Merge approach, but
it's a matter of personal preferences.
Multiple languages
We use CVS (which SVN is based on I believe). SVN fixes some weaknesses of
CVS and adds some nice features, but is fundamentaly the same.
As mentioned the main difference between VSS and CVS/SVN is that VSS locks
files being worked on and the other two by default do not.
This makes sense because
I have also had some very bad experiences with VSS.
Two specific problems that I've had:
A developer checked out some code and didn't check it back in before going
on holiday. This caused us a lot of headaches because we didn't have the
password for his machine and he'd checked out stuff that a
problem
their was?
Corrupt code, I have never had but I hear it can happen with certain file
types.
Hopefully VSS 7 will sort that out ;-)
-Original Message-
From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 October 2005 11:58
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Source Control Theory.
I have also
checkouts.
-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 October 2005 12:00
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Source Control Theory.
Well, logging in as Admin would have solved the first problem of checking in
a file checked out by another user (all
checkouts.
-Original Message-
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 October 2005 12:00
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Source Control Theory.
Well, logging in as Admin would have solved the first problem of checking
in
a file checked out by another user
understand is exactly what source control
is for. To think that it just keeps track of files being checked in and out
is one small piece of the pie. My experiences with VSS have been flaky at
best: corruptions, etc... however we are supposedly a MS shop therefore the
uppers will not even entertain
On Thursday 27 October 2005 11:11, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
In what way? As in it is not Windows only? That is hardly a powerful
reason... (as I assume they are on Windows now.)
For me it is a very powerful reason.
I shouldn't have my choice of platform and tool set dictated to by the
for us it was even a very simple reason.
We lost one developer, hired 2 devlopers and only had vss on one of the
machines. Couldn't get VSS to install on the newest developers machine so we
had to change process.
We had been talking about making the move for months, this was just the
straw which
we recently chose BUTT over ASS for our SCM solution. BUTT, or Brave
User Text Tracker, worked fine and had the same cardinality on the set
of issues experienced as ASS, or Applied Source Solutions. Both tools
possessed a rather large outflow of community support, unfortunately
ASS had that
One of the main reasons I use Eclipse and started on the CFEclipse project
is that Eclipse is bar none the best CVS client I've ever seen.
In my experience, no matter how I shuffle things around, rename files,
delete directories, whatever, it seems to seamlessly keep track of every
single change
Doug,
10 points for creativity - made me laugh.
-mk
-Original Message-
From: Douglas Knudsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Source Control Theory.
we recently chose BUTT over ASS for our SCM solution. BUTT, or Brave
there has a best practices guide, or better
yet can share your corporate policy on how source control is to be used in
your office. We are a small development shop (4 developers full time) and we
work on multiple sites at once. I'm not sure if the who merging and
branching is really for us but i'd
guide, or better
yet can share your corporate policy on how source control is to be used in
your office. We are a small development shop (4 developers full time) and we
work on multiple sites at once. I'm not sure if the who merging and
branching is really for us but i'd like to see how other
I'd highly recommend the SVN book (http://svnbook.red-bean.com), as
it's got some good foundation knowledge about SVN, as well as some
good examples.
Ditto.
And as a print companion, I'd get Pragmatic Version Control using
Subversion from the Pragmatic Programmers -- general theory and
On 10/26/05, John Paul Ashenfelter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd highly recommend the SVN book (http://svnbook.red-bean.com), as
it's got some good foundation knowledge about SVN, as well as some
good examples.
Ditto.
Which is the same thing everyone on the ACFUG email list said.
, the search box only does a google
search.
-Original Message-
From: Douglas Knudsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 September 2005 21:55
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Source Control
dittosource control seems to be the most repeated topic around here late
http://www.houseoffusion.com
many postings. The different threads provided me
with different perspectives, but my thirst to know more about Source
Control Systems has not been quenched.
Question:
I would like put into place a system that will allow developers to
work on a web application project using ColdFusion/Java
, but my thirst to know more about Source
Control Systems has not been quenched.
Question:
I would like put into place a system that will allow developers to
work on a web application project using ColdFusion/Java on the
Application Server and Oracle/PLSQL in the RDBMS. The system would
manage Source
.
-Original Message-
From: Douglas Knudsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 September 2005 21:55
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Source Control
dittosource control seems to be the most repeated topic around here late
http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4
DK
On 9/27/05
The problem is the search function does not work very well. For example when if
I try to search my name stan winchester so I can view my previous posts, only
3 records are returned. I know I've entered more than 3 records over the past
few years. I too have a subversion question which I am
it this way and if there are any gotchas, etc..
-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 12:44 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: source control setup
If I understand you correctly, you've got each developer with a copy
I was wondering what people use for Source Control.
Is there a product that a developer can use with Dreamweaver to
checkout source from a repository and then publish the source to one
or more ColdFusion Servers?
We are using Dreamweaver 8 and ColdFusion MX 7.
Thanks,
Troy
the arguments for Subversion, CVS, MS VSS... Sorry if I'm smackin' you
in the face here Troy; I don't want to be one of the list-traffic-nazis,
but damn...
-Ferg
Troy Simpson wrote:
I was wondering what people use for Source Control.
Is there a product that a developer can use with Dreamweaver
The only thing that I know of to work with Dreamweaver is MS Source
Safe and that's what I use at my job. However I will also recommend
Subversion.
HTH
On 9/27/05, Troy Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was wondering what people use for Source Control.
Is there a product that a developer
dittosource control seems to be the most repeated topic around here late
http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4
DK
On 9/27/05, Ken Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is it just me, or does it seem to anyone else like we're now having this
exact question asked every single
So how does one search the archive, the search box only does a google
search.
-Original Message-
From: Douglas Knudsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 September 2005 21:55
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Source Control
dittosource control seems to be the most repeated topic around here
, or never gets
approved to be deployed, then we have code sitting on development for a long
time and never being in source control. Sometimes ftp will screw up and
overwrite the file, and all the changes get lost.
I heard that it's possible to set up svn with webdav through apache
is run on the production server (which also has the production
tree checked out).
Now, if there is some code that is worked on for a long time, or never gets
approved to be deployed, then we have code sitting on development for a long
time and never being in source control. Sometimes ftp
Not a direct answer, but having implemented source control here recently and
considered all these matters, I would say your setup is not ideal.
A better structure is to have developers working on their own workstations.
Each PC/MAC is setup with its own web server and cf server running plus
to believe that it is, but I wanted to see if anyone is
using it this way and if there are any gotchas, etc..
-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 12:44 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: source control setup
If I understand you correctly
I'd really, really, really recommend you don't do what you propose.
By doing automatic commits (via webdav), you're going to be updating
your repository on every save, which means that every time you save a
file it's available to be synced to your production server. You
explicitly say you DON'T
repository and production repository at the same time.
Is this possible?
-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 4:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: source control setup
I'd really, really, really recommend you don't do what
That's impossible. With a webdav share, there isn't a filesystem.
You save to the share, the file is sent over the network to apache,
which hands it off to SVN, and then stores it in the repo. There
isn't a copy of the file on disk anywhere. That means you can't run
the code with CF (since CF
benefits deploy in moments, quickly create a bug
fix release, etc. If they buy in, then you can add the oh, the code
needs to be in source control and the problem can fix itself.
A similar approach is to put in continuous build tools (which it
sounds like you really need if that's how dev works
I was hoping to hear what the list thinks on an issue I have.
I'm trying to make a number of changes at the place I've been working
for a few months. The small group of programmers has a disorganized
development process. I'm trying to work in some standard source
control but until that point I
.
I'm trying to make a number of changes at the place I've been working
for a few months. The small group of programmers has a disorganized
development process. I'm trying to work in some standard source
control but until that point I want to at least be able to, when
tracking bugs, to find out
] wrote:
I was hoping to hear what the list thinks on an issue I have.
I'm trying to make a number of changes at the place I've been working
for a few months. The small group of programmers has a disorganized
development process. I'm trying to work in some standard source
control but until
a disorganized
development process. I'm trying to work in some standard source
control but until that point I want to at least be able to, when
tracking bugs, to find out what changes where made to a file and when.
Backups somewhat help but what would be really nice is, like source
control
to hear what the list thinks on an issue I have.
I'm trying to make a number of changes at the place I've been working
for a few months. The small group of programmers has a disorganized
development process. I'm trying to work in some standard source
control but until that point I want to at least
trying to work in some standard source
control but until that point I want to at least be able to, when
tracking bugs, to find out what changes where made to a file and when.
Backups somewhat help but what would be really nice is, like source
control, if I could look at the revision history
I whole heartedly go with Subversion and just force people to use it. Trust me
- people will use it if you catch them put in buggy untested code into
production. Offer a $100 gift certificate for the person with the lease amount
of demerit points after two months (use a public whiteboard or
.
Ahh okay... well that doesn't sound so bad... unfortunately I don't
have any say in the IDE or the source-control decisions... :-(
There's two more characteristics of most concurrent checkout systems
(e.g. CVS, Subversion, etc):
+ *frequent* checkins, which keeps merge conflicts to a minimum
.
Ahh okay... well that doesn't sound so bad...
unfortunately I don't
have any say in the IDE or the source-control
decisions... :-(
There's two more characteristics of most concurrent
checkout systems (e.g. CVS, Subversion, etc):
+ *frequent* checkins, which keeps merge conflicts
, but that's outside the scope
of the version control software.
Ahh okay... well that doesn't sound so bad...
unfortunately I don't
have any say in the IDE or the source-control
decisions... :-(
There's two more characteristics of most concurrent
checkout systems (e.g. CVS, Subversion
ability to access dw's
source-control features in the dw extension api.
+ small files, which means less contention for files to
checkout/merge
Isn't this a quality of the software, not of the
source-control system?
Right -- my real point was the approach doesn't work if
you've got lots
have very limited access to dw's
internal ftp engine ... actually it's virtually inaccessible...
virtually... you can sort of access it in an abstract way, but there's
very little control. There's probably even less ability to access dw's
source-control features in the dw extension api
Wasn't aware VSS had its own GUI... it didn't get installed on this
machine when VSS was installed -- or if it did, it didn't create an
intuitive start-menu shortcut. Might be a (just) passable solution...
sucks that I'd have to add yet another GUI to my desktop to manage
something that ought to
releases the new
team tools (including source control) that are bundled in the next
Visual Studio.
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We're using vss at the office where I work during the day and I'm
having some issues with the implementation of source control.
Specifically, I can't seem to find a way to view and/or check-in all
the files I have currently checked out. It would be really nice if I
could check them all
of source control.
Specifically, I can't seem to find a way to view and/or check-in all
the files I have currently checked out. It would be really nice if I
could check them all in automatically when I close dreamweaver...
Otherwise I seem to be losing track of what I have checked out and I'd
issues with the implementation of source control.
Specifically, I can't seem to find a way to view and/or check-in all
the files I have currently checked out. It would be really nice if I
could check them all in automatically when I close dreamweaver...
Otherwise I seem
,
barneyb
On 6/20/05, S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We're using vss at the office where I work during the day and I'm
having some issues with the implementation of source control.
Specifically, I can't seem to find a way to view and/or check-in all
the files I have currently checked out
vss at the office where I work during the day and I'm
having some issues with the implementation of source control.
Specifically, I can't seem to find a way to view and/or check-in all
the files I have currently checked out. It would be really nice if I
could check them all in automatically
Thanks Ian, I appreciate it... I'll give it a test tomorrow...
I am not 100% sure, never checked. But my memory says
when you check in all, it only checks in files you have
checked out and changed. It does not overwrite files you
did not check out and change. But a test is probably
You mean have everyone edit the files simultaneously and then what?
The last person to close it gets to merge everything? That sounds
hideous (if I'm making the right assumption anyway)... But no, I don't
have any say in the source-control decision.
Any chance of getting them to change
(un)fortunately I'm not allowed to choose my IDE at my day-job, so
switching to Eclipse is out of the question... Granted, the last time
I tried a version of Eclipse it went something like this
1. Create Project.
2. Wait for project to be created
3. Discover that directory structure and files for
On 6/20/05, S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You mean have everyone edit the files simultaneously and then what?
The last person to close it gets to merge everything? That sounds
hideous (if I'm making the right assumption anyway)... But no, I don't
have any say in the source-control
... unfortunately I don't
have any say in the IDE or the source-control decisions... :-(
s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080
new epoch : isn't it time for a change?
add features without fixtures with
the onTap open source framework
http://www.fusiontap.com
http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm
AFAIK, Dreameaver ONLY supports SourceSafe. It definitely does NOT support
Subversion (I think there is an extension, but when I looked at the CVS
extension from the same company, I didn't much care for it.).
I don't think the webdav support in DW is sufficient for interfacing with
source control
I'm pretty suprised no one's mentioned Ant and the many, many tools
around it for the deployment side of things. Regardless of the SCC
system, Ant is a nobrainer for automating deployment,
I was about to :)...here's my experience with ant:
1. Needed to set up a system to automate a complex
I'm pretty suprised no one's mentioned Ant and the many, many tools
around it for the deployment side of things. Regardless of the SCC
system, Ant is a nobrainer for automating deployment,
.
Thirty minutes of time just saved hours of hunting down problems.
As an aside, I'll be
but don't
see a way to label, get or rollback a whole tree to a previous state.
On 6/12/05, John Paul Ashenfelter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm jumping into this SCC/deployment discussion pretty late, but
wanted to echo the votes for Subversion for source control. On the
client side, TortoiseSVN
-Talk
Subject: Re: Source control PLUS Deployment control...
John, are you aware of a way to label a tree in Subversion? In VSS you
can apply a label to a whole project, and then if you need to you can
deploy a specific label, or roll back to a specific label
its own label (the version number). Just take note of which version
you want and checkout that version.
-Original Message-
From: Brian Kotek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 13 June 2005 11:48
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Source control PLUS Deployment control...
John, are you
http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.1/ch04.html
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committed change. Another way to think about it is
that revision N represents the state of the repository filesystem after
the Nth commit.
-Original Message-
From: Douglas Knudsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 13 June 2005 11:58
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Source control PLUS
change a file and want to update your server version, right
click its parent directory and COMMIT. Simple. If you want to use Homesite's
Project-thingy with its source control integration, you will have to install
something like Jalinidi Igloo which emulates SourceSafe's API (called SCC).
Hasn't
If you are running CF Enterprise, you can use the Archive and Deploy system
built into the CF Admin. I started using it when we went through Sarbanes-Oxley
remediation. I get a ticket for a change, I make the changes, they go through
production control processing, then I create an archive on my
with its source control integration, you will have to install
something like Jalinidi Igloo which emulates SourceSafe's API (called SCC).
Hasn't been worth it for me. SO, that's the client side
We have a development server, where all the changes are made and tested by
editing the files
I'm jumping into this SCC/deployment discussion pretty late, but
wanted to echo the votes for Subversion for source control. On the
client side, TortoiseSVN on the Windows client side is excellent and
Subclipse is there for Eclipse users.
(I haven't seen any Mac users chime in about how it works
On 6/8/05, Burns, John D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What does everyone use for source control?
CVS. All Macromedia IT code lives under CVS (free). All Macromedia
product team code lives under Perforce (not free).
FWIW, Eclipse has great CVS integration.
--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What does everyone use for source control?
CVS. All Macromedia IT code lives under CVS (free). All Macromedia
product team code lives under Perforce (not free).
FWIW, Eclipse has great CVS integration.
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...and our dept Manager is a Clearcase fan.
Adam H
On 6/9/05, Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/8/05, Burns, John D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What does everyone use for source control?
CVS. All Macromedia IT code lives under CVS (free). All Macromedia
product team code lives under
FWIW, Eclipse has great CVS integration.
I'm also a CVS person here though I've been investigating other
solutions as well.
Also, my Stumbler put me across this site:
http://better-scm.berlios.de/comparison/comparison.html
Not sure who sponsored it or how accurate it is but it's out there
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-Original Message-
From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 8:11 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Source control
We're and IBM shop so we use ClearCase but reacently
:
What does everyone use for source control?
CVS. All Macromedia IT code lives under CVS (free). All Macromedia
product team code lives under Perforce (not free).
FWIW, Eclipse has great CVS integration.
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-Original Message-
From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 8:11 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Source control
We're and IBM shop so we use ClearCase but reacently it was announced
: Source control
Moving from ClearCase to CVS? Now *that's* a step backwards. Go to
Subversion at the very least!
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Our company is making a big push for Open source tools, they are
mature enough now, so mostly its cost savings. I don't have the
specifics infront of me but i think the cost savings per developer
were somewhere in the upper thousands. I perfer the move anything is
better than the tools for
Just to backpedal for a second, didn't someone metion one that integrates with
Dreamweaver. I'm just discovering that I should've paid attention to this thread
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