RE: ACL VS Null Route [7:74267]

2003-08-23 Thread p b
In a straight comparison, doing the NULL route is handled more efficiently on the router as its just standard L3 forwarding. If you do an ACL instead, the router has to do additional processing on the packet. If you're running something like a GSR or 7609 and the right LC where ACLs are handled

RE: multiple ospf processes route insertion [7:73727]

2003-08-14 Thread p b
Yup, it is a traffic engineering (service specific routing) problem. MPLS TE might be one way to solve this.I've honestly not looked at what it would take to get MPLS to run in this environment.However, enabling MPLS on the network would be a major undertaking so I've been looking at

multiple ospf processes route insertion [7:73727]

2003-08-14 Thread p b
I'm considering a routing architecture where devices in the network would run ~3 OSPF routing processes. I think each routing process will be handling the routing of non-overlapping address blocks and thus the routes they give to the forwarding table should be disjoint. However, I'd like to

RE: multiple ospf processes route insertion [7:73727]

2003-08-14 Thread p b
feel free to point out why these wouldn't work in your case. Thanks, Zsombor p b wrote: Using multiple processes might provide a way to implement policy at the link level. Typically, when one thinks of policy, one thinks of BGP. But what if your policy requires the ability

RE: multiple ospf processes route insertion [7:73727]

2003-08-14 Thread p b
at the other options, I am not sure this is the worst one... :) Thanks, Zsombor p b wrote: Here's some more detail. Yes, assume the destination address (networks) represent the corresponding service. This is an existing production network where OSPF and iBGP are already in use

RE: multiple ospf processes route insertion [7:73727]

2003-08-11 Thread p b
feel free to point out why these wouldn't work in your case. Thanks, Zsombor p b wrote: Using multiple processes might provide a way to implement policy at the link level. Typically, when one thinks of policy, one thinks of BGP. But what if your policy requires the ability

RE: multiple ospf processes route insertion [7:73727]

2003-08-11 Thread p b
feel free to point out why these wouldn't work in your case. Thanks, Zsombor p b wrote: Using multiple processes might provide a way to implement policy at the link level. Typically, when one thinks of policy, one thinks of BGP. But what if your policy requires the ability

Re: IPv6 in the Enterprise Network [7:73667]

2003-08-10 Thread p b
Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: Significant interest in Asia. Selected industries: HDTV, 3G wireless, new generation air traffic control HDTV? Do you have any thoughts or pointers as to why HDTV would be looking at v6? Thanks Message Posted at:

RE: multiple ospf processes route insertion [7:73727]

2003-08-09 Thread p b
p b wrote: I'm considering a routing architecture where devices in the network would run ~3 OSPF routing processes. I think each routing process will be handling the routing of non-overlapping address blocks and thus the routes they give to the forwarding table should be disjoint

RE: Can block DHCP traffic at layer 2 switch? [7:73489]

2003-08-05 Thread p b
Not sure what filtering capabilities you have on the switch, but you might be able to set all of the subscriber facing ports to block the forwarding out of DHCP DISCOVERs and REBINDS requests. I forget the details, but you can determine the directionality of the DHCP requests (DISCOVERs/REBINDs

RE: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-08-01 Thread p b
terminate iBGP sessions on Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=73339t=73305 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL

RE: igmpv2 sparse mode [7:73158]

2003-07-29 Thread p b
The answer given seems a little thin. Here's how I understand this to work. When a router wants to join (*, G), it either needs to know the IP of the rendezvous point (RP) or a source generating the mulitcast traffic. Until the tree to the RP is built, the router only knows about the RP IP

Re: RFC 2547 vs. RFC 2764 VPNs [7:73048]

2003-07-26 Thread p b
dre wrote: I, personally, do not want to get heavily into it. It's not mature technology, and it's all bad, IMO. There are a few solid technologies...and they are mostly the ones that were implemented first. Sure, MPLS-VPN with 2547 is great, but it scales horribly and is difficult to

RE: Per-destination load balancing [7:72944]

2003-07-25 Thread p b
Here's some text from CCO regarding CEF and using source and destination IPs to map a packet to one of a set of load sharing links: Configuring Per-Destination Load Balancing Per-destination load balancing is enabled by default when you enable CEF. To use per-destination load balancing, you do

source specific m-cast error [7:72724]

2003-07-21 Thread p b
I'm testing a setup using source specific multicast. On the RPF interface for the target source IP (192.168.25.25) I've configured the following command: ip igmp static-group 232.232.232.232 source 192.168.25.25 This seems to get the right messages forwarded up towards the source in order to

OT: new CCIE requirement/step [7:72475]

2003-07-17 Thread p b
Heard there's a new requirement between the CCIE written and lab. One now has to sing the following song on a street corner on Tasman Drive. Passing score is 740. http://puck.nether.net/~jared/gigflapping.mp3 Message Posted at:

info on feature sets [7:72236]

2003-07-14 Thread p b
Anyone have a pointer to a page which details what features are in each feature set. For instance, what are feature differences between the IP, IP Plus, and Service provider feature sets? Thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72236t=72236

was CEF and per packet load sharing [7:72258]

2003-07-14 Thread p b
Consider two routers which have 3 GEs between them (no L2 device between them). Is it better to configure each of these GEs as a standalone L3 connection or to combine them GEs into an etherchannel (802.1ae?) bundle? My $0.02 would be to keep them at L3 and not run another protocol underneath

RE: policy based routing and backup [7:71482]

2003-06-27 Thread p b
I'm not sure I understand completely why you want to do this, and it's been a while since I've dinked with PBR, but here's some thoughts on one might get this to work. I've done something similar, but not exactly what's below, so YMMV. Note, VRFs might fit better and I've listed some details on a

RE: policy based routing and backup [7:71482]

2003-06-27 Thread p b
) -Original Message- From: p b [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 2:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: policy based routing and backup [7:71482] I'm not sure I understand completely why you want to do this, and it's been a while since I've dinked with PBR, but here's

serial interface and pinging [7:71391]

2003-06-25 Thread p b
Found this a bit unusual... have a feel for why it works this way, but figured I'd float this to the list for thoughts... Got two routers connected via a serial interface. R1 is assigned 192.168.2.1/30 on its serial R2 is assigned 192.168.2.2/30 on its serial On R1, do a debug ip icmp And

Re: bgp network sending subnet and more spec [7:71073]

2003-06-24 Thread p b
Thanks. Yea, this is a real design. Can't do the /25 statics to the entity that IGP advertises the /24 as there are dual links and multiple hops and certain failure scenarios will cause traffic to get blackholed. Someone sent me a pointer off list (thanks Rob) that pointed me to the bgp

bgp network sending subnet and more specifics [7:71073]

2003-06-21 Thread p b
Suppose I have a router which has a subnet x.x.x.0/24 defined on some interface. Over one iBGP session I'd like to advertise the x.x.x.0/24 subnet. Over another iBGP session, I'd like to advertise x.x.x.0/25 and x.x.x.128/25. When I config three network statements for these subnets in BGP,

bgp regexp [7:64872]

2003-03-09 Thread p b
Using BGP regexp, what's the show ip bgp regexp ... command to show all routes which did not last come through AS NNN? For example, if there are BGP routes with the following AS_PATHs: 10 22 30 20 30 20 52 10 11 20 10 10 the command should return 10 22 30 and 10. Thanks PB

Re: Who likes BGP? [7:64123]

2003-03-01 Thread p b
Isn't it standard practice for two entities, when setting up a peering, transit, or partial transit relationship, to agree on what routes will be sent over the links and then develop route filters on each side accordingly? If this is done properly, then a misconfiguration on one side should not

RE: BGP help needed., [7:62736]

2003-02-10 Thread p b
Don't have any gear to test this on, but what if you put a network 1.1.1.1 mask 255.255.255.255 in your AS 200--AS300 eBGP peer? The route received from AS100 will populate the routing table and thus cause AS200's network statement to be satisfied and thus advertised. This may make 1.1.1.1 to

basic bgp questions [7:62334]

2003-02-02 Thread p b
Some question I had as I've been reading Doyle V2. 1) Question about next-hop-self. Suppose the router is purely an iBGP router-- it does not have any eBGP connections and is there is no redist into BGP. Does setting this command on a iBGP neighbor have any affect? If this router is a

bgp received-routes [7:62335]

2003-02-02 Thread p b
I'm seeing what looks like inconsistent information being reported by a route reflector client (192.168.100.14). Below are two lines of output from debug ip bgp events and debug ip bgp updates: *Mar 3 09:06:26.265 UTC: BGP: 192.168.100.10 rcv UPDATE about 26.0.0.0/24 -- denied *Mar 3

Re: Secondary IP Addresses [7:58498]

2002-12-04 Thread p b
Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: p b wrote: Actually using secondaries and DHCP should be a non issue with any reasonable DHCP server platform. As you mention, in many versions of IOS the interface's primary IP address is used as the DHCP giaddr. If an interface has multiple secondaries

Re: Secondary IP Addresses [7:58498]

2002-12-04 Thread p b
Argh. Tab and return doesn't work well in when posting through the web page Let me revise the last part of my message: If the interface (or sub-interface) looks like: int ethernet 4/0.42 ip address 10.0.1.1 255.255.255.0 ip address 10.0.2.1 255.255.255.0 sec ip address 10.0.3.1

Re: Secondary IP Addresses [7:58498]

2002-12-04 Thread p b
Oppenheimer wrote: Thanks for all the info p b. It's very helpful. Regarding the first situation, where the DHCP server is on another segment and we're using a helper address to get the requests over to the server: We have established that if you use secondaries, the router puts its

OSPF E1 or E2 [7:58454]

2002-12-03 Thread p b
One of the cisco press books indicates one should use type 1 externals when the route is being advertised by 1 ASBR and type 2 externals when there's a single ASBR. Are there any issues if one uses type 1 external even when the route is being advertised by a single ASBR? It would seem useful,

Re: OSPF E1 or E2 [7:58454]

2002-12-03 Thread p b
Comments inline: Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: At 5:00 PM + 12/3/02, p b wrote: One of the cisco press books indicates one should use type 1 externals when the route is being advertised by 1 ASBR and type 2 externals when there's a single ASBR. This is just plain wrong. The reason you

Re: OSPF E1 or E2 [7:58454]

2002-12-03 Thread p b
planning to use E1s in this situation but wanted to float this out to the list to see if there might be unexpected consequencies. From the feedback so far, there doesn't seem to be. Thanks Peter van Oene wrote: Some thoughts below On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 13:26, p b wrote: Comments inline

Re: Secondary IP Addresses [7:58498]

2002-12-03 Thread p b
Actually using secondaries and DHCP should be a non issue with any reasonable DHCP server platform. As you mention, in many versions of IOS the interface's primary IP address is used as the DHCP giaddr. If an interface has multiple secondaries, one just needs to configure the DHCP server to be

OSPF forwarding address and route servers [7:58510]

2002-12-03 Thread p b
Reading (yawn) RFC 2328 and there's mention of two uses of the forwarding address in external LSAs (section 2.3). The second use is where one makes an OSPF router a route server and it generates external LSAs with the forwarding address in each LSA set to the proper AS exit point IP. I guess

Re: mutliple RIP processes [7:58392]

2002-12-02 Thread p b
Thanks. I had expected that router bgp ABC and router bgp XYZ did in fact start two processes. I hadn't tried applying a second router bgp XYZ to a config to confirm this worked. But as you point out, this isn't allowed (supported) and the router reports the error: router(config)#router bgp

Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]

2002-12-01 Thread p b
as described above. Again, not in your simple topology as far as I can tell. Thanks for the thoughts so far. Be interested in more feedback on the above analysis. Peter van Oene wrote: On Sun, 2002-11-24 at 21:56, p b wrote: Consider

Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]

2002-11-30 Thread p b
-24 at 21:56, p b wrote: Consider this a question around the theory behind why OSPF did things a certain way. Somewhere along the way, Moy et. al. decided that there was an issue with an ABR processing a summary LSA. Based on that, they decided to make a design decision

Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]

2002-11-27 Thread p b
ABR2 instead of the originating router's RID. So, I (still) don't see an issue if the ABR behaved as described above. Thanks for the thoughts so far. Be interested in more feedback on the above analysis. Peter van Oene wrote: On Sun, 2002-11-24 at 21:56, p b wrote: Consider

OSPF ABR question [7:57990]

2002-11-24 Thread p b
Consider the following topology: area_0---ABR_1area_1-ABR_2area_0 There are two area 0's. ABR_1 and ABR_2 will generate type 3 summary LSAs for the respective area 0s and flood the information into area_1. An internal router in area 1 will see the summary LSAs from ABR_1 and

Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]

2002-11-24 Thread p b
://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ospf-abr-alt-05.txt) Thanks The Long and Winding Road wrote: p b wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Consider the following topology: area_0---ABR_1area_1-ABR_2area_0 There are two area 0'

Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]

2002-11-24 Thread p b
: p b wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Thanks. But this doesn't really answer my question. I realize that area 0 is partitioned. I'm not looking for an answer to is there a rule that prevents this, but instead, what breaks if ABR_1 were to

somewhat OT: using link distance for ospf cost [7:57744]

2002-11-19 Thread p b
Wondering if anyone has set their OSPF link costs based on link distance instead of based on interface bandwidth. As link speeds increase, corresponding serialization delay decreases. So another possible value one might use for link cost is the distance of the link instead of based on interface

iBGF and failures (with some new info) [7:57548]

2002-11-16 Thread p b
I had posted earlier in the week regarding some questions about iBGP, the routing table, and convergence. Have some more information and some more detailed questions. In terms of the design, the network consists of many routers all running iBGP in a direct mesh or through route reflectors. OSPF