Sunday here was- Sunny, 80F, SE 10-15 clocking to SW. Went for nice sail on
the river- no problem except for all the snowbirds from Canada motoring
about. (they seem to like to fly a Canadian courtesy flag. Guess it is a
courtesy to warn others ;-)
Reality sets in today as front comes through and
That's the Canadian Armed Forces on patrol. If you give them beer, they won't
bother you.
Rich
On Jan 6, 2014, at 8:33, Kim Brown kimcbr...@comcast.net wrote:
Sunday here was- Sunny, 80F, SE 10-15 clocking to SW. Went for nice sail on
the river- no problem except for all the snowbirds
I like the price. But I have a good boat. Mama will not lit me keep 2. : (
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:52 AM, Peter Fell prf...@gmail.com wrote:
Looks interesting:
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Regarding the CNC Photo Album site, I've tried several times clicking in
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To: andrew rothweiler;
Try right-clicking on the button and ‘open in new tab’'. Takes a long time to
open but it did for me. Ads (all 3 of them!) have quite a delay on them too.
From: Curtis
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 5:22 AM
To: andrew rothweiler ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List (no subject)
Its
My family has been around the Westport area since the 1600s, so I know a lot
about it. It has a lot of nice features for sure, but “cheap living” wouldn’t
be on the list anywhere.
Joe Della Barba Coquina
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Sent:
On Dwight's CC 27 during Chester Race Week, we had a 'big audience' on
the dock watch us sail up to the dock to let a crew member off I was
the 'crew' that stepped off.
The big audience was so impressed with what we did that day that we got
an applause.we looked like we actually knew
I've seen them in Bacon's. Never was willing to spend $100 + on it. Can
you use it to drop a line over a piling?
Joel
Annapolis
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Robert Abbott robertabb...@eastlink.cawrote:
On Dwight's CC 27 during Chester Race Week, we had a 'big audience' on
the dock
Not much to brag about, but I think we might take the cake for today’s weather:
- -5 C and freezing rain from midnight till 7:00
- +5 C and rain at 9:00
- dropping down (quickly) to –25 C tonight (it is already –5 C at 11:30)
I don’t even want to think about my driveway. There was about 10 mm of
Excellent.
Bill Coleman
CC 39 animated_favicon1
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Thanks Harry. Great story for a winter day.
Rich
Hi Keith
Thanks so much for the input and agree totally.
I'm thinking in heavy air , noise etc these would be a good option.
The price is outrageous $179.00 ea.
I was just thinking you 'boys' might have chatted about this at some point.
Thanks again!
Liz
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On Jan 6, 2014,
Liz
On Alianna, communications between the boys is fine, it's when the gals
get involved that I could use something in my ears (a translator maybe).that
said, my wife has learned to drive the boat very well through most maneuvers
where my skills and strength dictate what are my jobs and what
If they are Bluetooth, I question the 900 m range. BT is usually 10 m (30 ft)
(Personal Area Network (PAN)) – and it should not reach further – it would
cause interference with other devices. It can be a tad better on a boat (no
interference, line of sight), but you might be right at the limit
Russ, that's what we do on my boat and with boats that I captain
professionally. Even with new crew members, a few simple hand signals are
easy to work out. The only time I'll go to headsets for communication is
when the boat is so big that I can't see the other crewmembers.
Andy
CC 40
Peregrine
So I'm as some of you know in the process of moving to the next step in my
training. I'm in the planing stages of my first over-night near shore
passage. I will leave early am: 4:00 with a full moon to help and head out
to the R 4 F1 R4s @ 32-05,901N 080-35,099W this is the channel into
Port
Curtis,
You need to look into the offshore currents. Garmin, OpenCPN and other nav
software will show them.
Sounds like a great trip!
Joel
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
So I'm as some of you know in the process of moving to the next step in my
training.
Did you referance a tides and current book? It will tell you the speed and
direction of the current which you can add or subtract as a vector to your
course and speed. You have to compensate the tide and cutrent to your
specific location which adds even more difficulty.
I kinda feel like it is
Curtis, are you planning on doing this in the near future? If so, are you
prepared for some rather cold hours at sea?
Best,
Dave
1982 CC 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
On Jan 6, 2014, at 1:22 PM, Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
So I'm as some of you know in the process of moving to
Yes Like I said I have the tide tables for my area. I will leave with the
tide and return with the tide. What my question is how bad they effect is
off shore? I understand the river and have sailed them 45 times in the last
2 years. Just need some advise for the off shore tide conditions. I see
It was 60 degrees here yesterday. and will be in the teens tonight. I will
pick a warmer window. I will not be cold. Will not much or I will not go.I
hate cold, However I do have a sense of ergency.
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Dave Godwin dave.god...@me.com wrote:
Curtis, are you planning
Really what you're going to feel most ten miles out is the effects of the
Gulf Stream. usually in that area there's a back eddy that runs south along
the coast, but there can also be a back eddy on the back eddy as you get
farther and nearer. And it depends a lot on what the breeze has been doing
Overdress for the weather. And don't mess with the weather. If the forecast
is iffy, don't go. It can be really snotty in that area. I never take
chances there. I suggest you be part of a delivery crew a few times before
going offshore by yourself.
Andy
CC 40
Peregrine
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at
I have sailed this area for the last 2 years. I know the sound very well. I
have crossed the sound 4 or 5 times in foul weather. I have no intention of
challenging the weather YET. I only want to start the training offshore.
Straight out and back again. maybe 5 or 6 times going a little further
So, it’s winter and I’m getting back to refitting (restoration is probably a
better word now after letting her go so long) Ronin and am working on
shed/inside type jobs. I bought a Lewmar Pro-Series 1000 horizontal windlass.
Right now I’ve taken a bunch of measurements and I am doing some rough
On 2014/01/06 12:03 PM, Joel Aronson wrote:
I've seen them in Bacon's. Never was willing to spend $100 +
on it. Can you use it to drop a line over a piling?
Simple answer is yes...but if you have a regular 'boat hook', and many
of us do, you can drop a line over a piling with that to! Then
On 2014/01/06 12:03 PM, Joel Aronson wrote:
I've seen them in Bacon's. Never was willing to spend $100 + on it.
Can you use it to drop a line over a piling?
Simple answer is yes...but if you have a regular 'boat hook', and many
of us do, you can drop a line over a piling with that to!
Our
On 2014/01/06 12:03 PM, Joel Aronson wrote:
I've seen them in Bacon's. Never was willing to spend $100 + on it.
Can you use it to drop a line over a piling?
Joel
Annapolis
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Robert Abbott
robertabb...@eastlink.ca mailto:robertabb...@eastlink.ca wrote:
On 2014/01/06 12:03 PM, Joel Aronson wrote:
I've seen them in Bacon's. Never was willing to spend $100 + on
it. Can you use it to drop a line over a piling?
Can't see any reason why not, but a simple 'boat hook' and half the
price can do the same thing'drop a line over a piling'.
The
Curtis
Count on taking more time…averaging about 6 in a CC 30 may be wishful…are
you steaming all the way or sailing…Hope your motor is reliable and
strong…if you get your first big trip figured out that good before hand I
would say you have a career ahead in sailing…will this be alone or with
Curtis
Remember, the ocean deserves a very healthy level of respect. I grew up in
a fishing town, Lunenburg, Nova Scotia. The hundresd of names of family
members lost at sea and now carved in stone serve to remind me. Those were
good men and experienced sailors we lost.
I have read your posts
I will have a capable sailor with me But i will insist right up till point
of peril to do it singled handed including the leg work and learning as
with all these questions.
my wind is most always out of the south so I will steam out with the out
going tide under flat conditions I get 6 knots at
I mounted mine like that, I've got a Lewmar V2. It works well. You may
want to mock it up in cheap plywood first, I had to cant my windlass up
to best match up with the bow roller, and it let me get it raised as far
as possible without hitting the locker lid.
The one thing you might
I have a newly installed engine in the boat. I installed it my self. Its a
2gm20F
Runs like a top. it was no easy task, I learned a lot through the process.
I don't want to do it ever a gain. However it gave me a classroom
environment to learn the systems on my boat like none other. Almost no
Mario at G-Captain has a slightly different view of it, which I agree
with - I'm not on the ocean a fraction of the hours a fisherman is, yet
I am willing to purchase and wear safety gear - why would a fisherman
not be willing to carry an epirb? A handheld VHF?
Pierre, thanks for that. If you do have a picture handy I would love to give it
a look.
Best,
Dave
1982 CC 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
On Jan 6, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Pierre Tremblay tremblay.pie...@yahoo.ca wrote:
This is exactly what the PO did on my CC 38-3. I will look if I have
Curtis
What is your plan if you lose steering, say because of a broken cable, or
worse if you lose the rudder altogether…what would you do if the prop got
snagged in fishing gear…what if a through hull started to leak fast or your
engine exhaust pipes broke and water started to flood the engine
Dave
I did this shortly after I purchased Persuasion. I installed a vertical
windlass and had to cut a hole in the anchor locker cover but the base
installation could be the same for you. I didn't secure the mounting
bracket to the bulkhead although it is against the bulkhead. Here is what
Rich
On Jan 6, 2014, at 18:06, dwight veinot dwight...@gmail.com wrote:
Curtis
What is your plan if you lose steering, say because of a broken cable, or
worse if you lose the rudder altogether…what would you do if the prop got
snagged in fishing gear…what if a through hull
Curtis,Tide and current are different - get a set of current charts.
It’s that time of year again. Is anybody going to the TO boat show?
Mike
S/V Persuasion
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Tape a bikini over the holes?
Sorry, Edd. Couldn't help myself. :)
Dennis C.
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Sent: Monday, January 6, 2014 4:22 PM
Subject: Stus-List Instrument Panel Advice
Listers,
The previous owner
I'm there next Saturday.
Graham Collins
Secret Plans
CC 35-III #11
On 2014-01-06 6:29 PM, Persuasion wrote:
It's that time of year again. Is anybody going to the TO boat show?
Mike
S/V Persuasion
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Did I read your initial post correctly, that you’re leaving at 4am and
returning the same afternoon? A good long sail, but I’m not sure it’s really
an “overnight.”
And I agree with the earlier post: when I had my 30mkI, I figured on 5 knots as
a best estimate of speed under good conditions.
Hello Edd,
If your instrument panels are the black plastic ones you could have three
black anodised aluminium (or plastic) panels made to cover the entire area
and make new cut-outs for your instruments. I think CC did this with some
37+'s from the factory. Here is a link to 4 different 37+'s
I used a fairly large panel of ½ teak plywood, edged with teak strips to
hide the laminated edges, over the holes left by an old radio and the old
Loran. I have since mounted the new VHF radio,, the stereo, and an older GPS
(to provide position information to the DSC radio) into new openings cut
Rob,
Sounds like something I could make this winter. Can you possibly send a
picture?
Chuck
Resolute
1990 CC 34R
Atlantic City, NJ
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From: Robert Abbott robertabb...@eastlink.ca
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Monday, January 6, 2014 10:01:12 AM
Subject:
I used white 1/4 inch Starboard to cover a speaker hole in the bulkhead after I
discovered my new VHF didn't have a provision for a remote speaker. got it
cheap, though! Beveled the edges and it looks good. Going to do the same with
the stereo speakers, they seem to get banged by the crew
Whoa, Dwight. Lighten up.
I realize Curtis is less experienced than some others on the list. I've
already suggested he take a Power Squadron course or two to increase his
knowledge, and others have suggested he sign on to help with a few offshore
and/or ICW deliveries to gain experience. I
Agreed But July is nice.
John
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On Jan 6, 2014, at 6:41 PM, Rick Brass rickbr...@earthlink.net wrote:
Whoa, Dwight. Lighten up.
I realize Curtis is less experienced than some others on the list. I’ve
already suggested he take a Power Squadron course or two to
John,
Remember where he lives. Port Royal Sound is adjacent to Hilton Head, and
almost to the Georgia state line. The current offshore water temperature at the
buoy nearest Port Royal Sound is 54 degrees – warmer than Lake Superior ever
gets. By the 1st of March, air temperatures will be
Well Rick, you have some answers to those questions but I was interested in
what Curtis would do because I got a feeling that he has nowhere close to
your level of experience.
Get the man thinking about the what ifs so he considers the low
probability stuff and has a good all round plan
I would probably be there. Now is a good time to have an impromptu get together
of the Great Lakes owners group. We could meet at the show or afterwards for a
few pints if anyone is interested
Sent from Joe Bognar
On Jan 6, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Graham Collins cnclistforw...@hotmail.com wrote:
You make it sound like a backyard swimming pool.I thought that area might
get heavily used by all sorts of other mariners
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Brass
Sent: January 6, 2014 8:18 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List
+1
On Jan 6, 2014 6:41 PM, Rick Brass rickbr...@earthlink.net wrote:
Whoa, Dwight. Lighten up.
I realize Curtis is less experienced than some others on the list. I’ve
already suggested he take a Power Squadron course or two to increase his
knowledge, and others have suggested he sign on to
Thanks Ed, Thats what I do now. I watch the Can and Nun markers to help
keep me in tune with the the tide.
You are right about the time flexibility as well. I 'm not ridge and can
very well adapt to a different time or schedule. I have a real sense of
urgency and can not keep putting it off. I
What would anybody do? I would first cry out OH GOD OH GOD Then I would
calm my self. I have a cable driven edson Wheel. I also have an emergency
fitting in the cockpit floor were a tiller can be attached. I have the
emergency tiller in the forward birth. If I lost the rudder I would heave
too and
What would anybody do? I would first cry out OH GOD OH GOD Then I would
calm my self. I have a cable driven edson Wheel. I also have an emergency
fitting in the cockpit floor were a tiller can be attached. I have the
emergency tiller in the forward birth. If I lost the rudder I would heave
too and
I'm sorry, I still vote for July. It's not temperature, it's time to plan
things properly. As you say, you're close to land most of the time. Then you
go on to talk about backup GPS, communications, etc. Your priorities are
wrong. Why not take a month or two longer and learn about current
Thanks Rick, That's what I need! Cautionary encouragement. I only studied a
short while this afternoon on the route. I wanted to stay insight of all
the markers going out. Then at the last one head east then south then west
then back north to the mark back in I go. Its just a square loop. I will
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From: Robert Abbott robertabb...@eastlink.ca
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Subject: Re: Stus-List
Not sure if I mentioned that I have been sailing Port Royal Sound for 2
years. Like 24 to 27 trips.
In fact here is a small clip of Joe Waters Water Sails Charleston
SCBirthday Cake where we took first place in the 2014 The JEAN RIBAUT
CUP which will be held on Saturday, April 6, 2013 .
So I
The lady asked for some advice about headsets, probably regarding racing where
it may be especially effective with helm to bow communication. Between spin
hoists and jib drops it can be noisy. I don't think she was asking about
dropping anchor.
Barbara Hickson Fellers
On Jan 6, 2014, at
Josh
I am not sure what this +1 post means.does it mean that's your vote too.you
think I was too heavy, right.
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18 here in Baton Rouge tonight. Crap, I was warmer in Colorado last week.
Got gas fireplace going and watching the BCS championship game. War Eagle! Go,
Auburn!
Dennis C.
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On Jan 6, 2014, at 6:18 PM, Rick Brass rickbr...@earthlink.net wrote:
John,
Remember where
Don't let your crayfish freeze... :^)
Frederick G Street -- Minneapolis (currently -18F...)
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- currently on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
On Jan 6, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Dennis C. capt...@yahoo.com wrote:
18 here in Baton Rouge tonight. Crap, I was warmer in
Nothing said here was offensive to me Folks. I would prefer cold hard
truth. I thank you for your candor.I respect each and every one of your
input. I always expect for there to be liberal and conservative thought
process in this topic. I mean How did any of you get experiance? I am at
least
Curtis,
Here are a few tips, based on the assumption that you checked the boat and the
whether before leaving.
- On the ocean, running non-stop 24 hours a day on a CC 30, with no tide to
take into account, my best day ever was 152 miles. A little over 6,25 knots
average, which meant running at
There are lots of choices for water resistant FRS/GMRS radios which can be VOX
operated (hands free) with head sets. I did a
search for head sets with the radios built in and didn't find any, but I
suspect that they do exist. Motorcyclists use helmet
headsets with FRS/GMRS radios. The original
Great advice, thankyou.
I will p below.
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Antoine Rose antoine.r...@videotron.cawrote:
Curtis,
Here are a few tips, based on the assumption that you checked the boat and
the whether before leaving.
- On the ocean, running non-stop 24 hours a day on a CC 30,
We are in the process of setting a bareboat charter in the BVI for April.7
Days. I hope we are ready for that. We are going with a couple that the
husband sailed from the hamptons to Bermuda twice and went to some sailing
school in Annapolis. Great people should be fun I hope to learn a lot from
I will have a capable sailor with me But i will insist right up till point of
peril to do it singled handed including the leg work and learning as with all
these questions.
That sounds really smart, Curtis. It sounds like you're going about this the
right way.
Andy
CC 40
Peregrine
Couldn't have said it better myself, Rick.
Andy
CC 40
Peregrine
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On Jan 6, 2014, at 18:41, Rick Brass rickbr...@earthlink.net wrote:
Whoa, Dwight. Lighten up.
I
Thank you Andy,
I really want to do it safely
II will take all necessary training and equipment it takes to make
me competent. I think i am ready for the next steps.Baby steps. Thanks for
your vote.It helps me cary on.
Cheers
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Andrew Burton
Don't stand on the rail to pee overboard at night. The number of drown guys
found with their pants open is significant. Take the time to go down inside.
;-)
Antoine, I can't tell you the number of times I've said that! That is probably
the best advice for anyone heading offshore for the first
Yup. A boat lost a guy in the 2012 Gulfport to Pensacola race. 4-6 foot seas,
20+ knots. Came up to pee, fell overboard. No PFD. Fortunately, it was a
clear night and one of the watch standers was an experienced pilot. He looked
astern at the sky and stars and was able to guide the boat
Curtis. Maybe you should get your own website.
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Thanks Rick, That's what I need! Cautionary encouragement. I only studied a
short
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OK, guys and girls, time to fess up and let Curtis know he's not alone.
A few months after I bought Steinlocker, an Oday 27, my buddy and I decided
to take a cruise. I wasn't nearly as prepared as Curtis already seems to be.
We left Mandeville early afternoon and headed east towards The
I don’t know. I think some of you guys are so sailing-starved that your
imaginations have run wild on a cold wintry night.
Sixty miles is just a long day sail.
Curtis, it sounds like you have a good boat. Study your charts, pick a nice day
and go have fun. Ocean sailing on a good day is the
If I started 'fessing, i'd tie things up a bit, so I won't:) I had a look at
Curtis' blog. The impression I came away with is that the boat is in excellent
shape and well looked after, Curtis is way ahead of where I think many of us
think he might be, and, if he's half as sensible as I think he
While I admit that I tend to be a little casual with the potential risks, I
agree that sometimes you need to just get out and do it.
I bought my little Mirage 24 2 yrs ago and basically rigged it up based on my
old memories from dinghy sailing and headed out into the harbor. Last 2 yrs
have
You’re right, Dennis. This weather sucks.
Almost 70 all weekend, but no wind and then rain.
Tonight will be 16 degrees with a chill factor below 10. Tomorrow’s high will
be 22-24, and the low will be 14.
By Saturday it will be in the mid-70s. But guess what – rain again.
Crap.
I would like to see the installation also, thanks
Richard
1985 37
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To: Pierre Tremblay tremblay.pie...@yahoo.ca; cnc-list
Dwight,
Sorry for the confusion. As much as I encourage preparation and safety
the +1 was for Rich Brass's response to you...maybe a bit harsh. Though,
to your point Curtis does need to remember that even though he is taking an
expierienced sailor with him he is responsible for both lives and
Here's mine...a couple of changes ago. Knees glassed into hull just above
balsa line, windlass shelf bolted onto knees. I later added a Starboard
clatter pad in front of the anchor locker.
http://members.shaw.ca/parmesanshift/images/IMG_0953.jpg
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