Stus-List Running Rigging Diagram

Hi all -  Thanks in part to the great advice everybody gave on this thread I think I’ve got a solution for the running rigging on S.V. Safari. See here for my entirely too detailed diagram and description: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3H_qPPkESLKcHpHZVJhVzQ1TDQ Ideally I’d like to do 2B,

Re: Stus-List Mounting new head in 29-2 - bolt pattern mismatch

They are definitely hangar bolts and they are lagged into 3/4" plywood under the glass. I managed to cram a Raritan PHII in there, but it was a tight squeeze. Make sure you seal the old holes with epoxy, otherwise the base will rot out and you will one day catapult out of the bog with the toilet at

Re: Stus-List Timbers Beneath Mast Step

Thanks Peter. I looked again tonight at the "gap" between bulkhead and floor pan on my boat. There's actually no gap, except at the lower inboard corners of the bulkhead where the door to the head is cut out of the bulkhead. In those corners there's a gap about a half-inch high and a half inch w

Re: Stus-List Timbers Beneath Mast Step

The 35 MK I shares this flaw. It was a lot of time on my belly chiseling out rotten old wood to fix it. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com Coquina C&C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edward Levert via CnC-List Se

Re: Stus-List Routing of mast cabling from the mast to the inside of the boat

Chris, Hey neighbor! I’m right down the road in Hayes. My cables exit the mast near the coach roof and are hidden by a removable panel. It wouldn’t be hard to cover your cables with some covers of some sort. I launch on Wednesday at York River Yacht Haven. Jake Jake Broder

Re: Stus-List Routing of mast cabling from the mast to the inside of the boat

Chris, All Touche's wiring and cables exit the mast at the base under the bilge plate and the small plate forward of the mast. They are combo steaming/foredeck light, anchor light, Windex light, RG8 VHF coax and wind instrument. They run into the forward dinette storage and then aft to the navig

Re: Stus-List Timbers Beneath Mast Step

Randy: We were delivering the boat back to New Orleans after purchase. I knew of the potential flaw but the surveyor was not able to see the support structure. Had boat itch to replace my C&C 27 lost in Katrina. I took a chance. Close hauled with main and a 110 in 15 kts wind, 30 minutes into the

Re: Stus-List Orcas on Puget Sound

Very cool, nice treat, especially close to home. Thanks for sharing. Brad Crawford Dora Pearl 81’ C&C 36 Elliott Bay From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Means via CnC-List Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 11:05 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Andrew M

Stus-List Routing of mast cabling from the mast to the inside of the boat

We are getting ready to do some major mast maintenance on CIRCE our Red Wing 35/ C&C 35 MKI. The question that I have for the List is how are your electrical cables routed from your mast to the interior of the boat? On CIRCE we have 6 electrical/instrumentation cables routed through 6 separat

Re: Stus-List Timbers Beneath Mast Step

Forgot to include the list in the ‘to’ From: Peter Fell Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 4:43 PM To: randy.staff...@comcast.net Subject: Re: Stus-List Timbers Beneath Mast Step That was about 4 years ago and I don’t recall all the fine details of all the discussions I had on the subject. There’s p

Re: Stus-List Timbers Beneath Mast Step

Thanks Peter. Does a gap between the bulkhead and cabin sole pan necessarily represent a problem? On my boat there's a gap of < 1/2" on each side. There's also some creaking noise from the sole pan in the head / V-berth area when I walk on it which makes me think the fiberglass of the sole pan h

Re: Stus-List Gate Valves

Thanks Joe, that's good news on both counts. On my boat the PO re-bedded all valved through hulls four years ago, but left the gate valves on the cockpit drains. The through hull for the vanity sink drain / head water intake, and the through hull for the engine cooling water intake, already have

Re: Stus-List Timbers Beneath Mast Step

Thanks Ed. The story at http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/doityourself/maststep/maststep.htm is informative. Someone who owned the boat before me had already cut a rectangular hole in the cabin sole next to forward port dinette bench, and fashioned a thick wood block to fill the hole and span the tw

Re: Stus-List Mounting new head in 29-2 - bolt pattern mismatch

Thanks guys. Based on your knowledge I am now pretty certain that the existing bolts are hanger bolts bedded into fiberglass/plywood. I will shop around here for SS versions of those and/or lag bolts. Thanks Ed for the heads up on the seat lifting/opening. I will make sure to check that befo

Re: Stus-List Timbers Beneath Mast Step

Randy: Check the "Do it yourself" section of the Photo Album for a description and a photograph of the repair. My C&C 30 Mk 1, Hull 19(?) had the step fail on the 1st sail. I was in Mobile Bay at the time of failure and had the step rebuilt by a professional who was the Boatwright for the US Olymp

Re: Stus-List for Bev Parslow and Jib Sheet Question

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Re: Stus-List Gate Valves

Hi Randy, I replaced the old gate valves on my 30-1 this winter. While trying to unscrew them, I ended up spinning the actual thru-hull so I replaced those as well. I had a devil of a time finding the replacements since on my boat #305, they were flush to the hull. I found some flush thru hulls

Re: Stus-List Swivel pod for Chartplotter tip

David, That's the factory supplied mount for the Standard Horizon CP190i GPS. It's a two axis mount, rotating on the base and tilting at the head. Dennis C. On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 2:32 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hi Dennis- My GPS is already on a platform wh

Re: Stus-List Swivel pod for Chartplotter tip

That looks nice and the price is right, but this is the one I am going to look at when I get to Defender: http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1%7C344%7C2028704%7C2028919&id=2418297 It can be tilted anywhere (as opposed to 20 or 40° on the Navpod) and 360 swivel so I think that sitting or st

Re: Stus-List head hoses

For all the information on head maintenance and hose replacement look up the Sailboats Owners forum and look for Peggy Hall’s special forum. If you can’t find the information there, it does not exist (or you don’t need it). Alternatively buy her book. I bet it is worth every penny. Marek From:

Re: Stus-List head hoses

From what I read (no personal experience, thanks God), the most flexible is Raritan Flex sanitation hose (about $12-$15/ft.). The most used one is the Trident 101 or 102 (I think about half that price). Defender has them at 2/3 cost of WM. Marek From: Fred Hazzard via CnC-List Sent: Monday,

Re: Stus-List Mounting new head in 29-2 - bolt pattern mismatch

Bruce: I recently replaced the original head on my 1981 C&C 34. The original "bolts" were not bolts at all but were what I think are called hanger bolts - part screw and part bolt. The screw part was into the pan on which the head sits. The head was held down by cap nuts. Remove the head and back

Re: Stus-List Swivel pod for Chartplotter tip

Hi Dennis- My GPS is already on a platform which is why I am looking for a swivel base. What kind of swivel base is that? Does it tilt as well as swivel? Dave Aries 1990 C&C 34+ New London, CT > On Apr 11, 2016, at 10:56 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List > wrote: > > I built a small platform u

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Re: Stus-List Mounting new head in 29-2 - bolt pattern mismatch

https://www.boltdepot.com/Hanger_bolts.aspx?nv=l Joel On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Stainless lag bolts work on most of our old C&C's. I'm guessing there's a > piece of plywood under there. > > If not, you can use a stainless toggle bo

Re: Stus-List Mounting new head in 29-2 - bolt pattern mismatch

Stainless lag bolts work on most of our old C&C's. I'm guessing there's a piece of plywood under there. If not, you can use a stainless toggle bolt. http://www.garelick.com/Toggler-Brand-Stainless-Steel-Toggle-Bolt-Anchors Dennis C. On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Bruce Pope via CnC-List < c

Re: Stus-List Western Lake Superior CnC Rendezvous

perhaps next summer for a round Superior trip from Huron North Channel! Don Viking 34 Life www.ncyc.ca > On Apr 11, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Tom Lynch via CnC-List > wrote: > > Count me in. I'd love to meet you guys in Bayfield for a beer or two. > > Tom Lynch > Escape (to be renamed) C&C 3

Re: Stus-List Timbers Beneath Mast Step

Thanks Gary. I had read about this issue in http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/reviews/review30mk1.htm before I bought my boat. But I didn't know for certain whether it affected my particular boat until I was able to remove the mast step and inspect. When I surveyed the boat, the rig was up, so I cou

Re: Stus-List Timbers Beneath Mast Step

Check the whole area of the bulkhead. We had a 30-1 surveyed that turned out to have a sinking mast step and also potentially other issues so that the bulkhead had pulled up out of the cabin sole pan (or the pan had dropped / distorted) by about 1-inch on the port side and to a lesser extend on

Re: Stus-List Gate Valves

I bit the bullet and replaced all my through hulls and replaced the gate valves with proper seacocks. The forty year old (at the time) plumbing just didn't inspire confidence. Rick Bushie Anchovy, 1971, 30-1 Tolchester, MD ___ This list is supported by

Re: Stus-List Orcas on Puget Sound

If my wife sees this she’ll make me move – she loves whales. VERY nice! Speaking of which, up near Lubec, Maine we saw finbacks that are up to 90 feet long! It makes you feel very small to be on the bow of a 30 foot powerboat and see a 90 foot whale go by about 10 feet under the boat. One of the

Re: Stus-List Orcas on Puget Sound

body{font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px} Very cool. Knew I should have gone sailing yesterday instead of going to work.  Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA. -- Original message--From: Andrew Means via CnC-List Date: Mon, Apr 11, 2016 11:05To:

Re: Stus-List Head Hoses

Fred: I used sanitation hose from Premier Rubber on Vancouver Way for a long run (holding tank to deck pump-out). Very expensive, but might be too stiff for you. The rest of my sanitation hoses are from West Marine. White, 1 1/2" sanitation hose. Still pretty stiff, but softens up a bit if soa

Stus-List Orcas on Puget Sound

Yesterday we sailed to Bainbridge for lunch and, after running aground in Eagle Harbor (our depth sounder is on the fritz & I got careless), and dinner at the Harbor Island Pub we headed back into Puget Sound and were treated to this pod of Orca Whales. They came and checked us out and we sailed

Stus-List Mounting new head in 29-2 - bolt pattern mismatch

Hello. I pulled the existing Brydon head from my 29-2 and am installing a new Jabsco. The existing bolts appear to be bedded into the fiberglass pan that the head sits on and of course the bolt pattern for the new head does not match these. There is no access to the underside of the pan.

Re: Stus-List Timbers Beneath Mast Step

Randy, you have stumbled onto the major flaw in the construction on the 30-1. There have been many discussions on this site about the mast step. Some owners have filled this low part of the sump with fiberglass, others (me and….) have strengthened or replaced those cross supports. The big flaw i

Re: Stus-List head hoses

Really good advice guys. Thanks Fred On Apr 11, 2016 10:32 AM, "svpegasu...@gmail.com" wrote: > Being a live-aboard I battle this all the time. When tied to the dock I > flush with fresh water and salt water when out cruising. And every couple > of months I poor vinegar in the head flush into ho

Re: Stus-List head hoses

Being a live-aboard I battle this all the time. When tied to the dock I flush with fresh water and salt water when out cruising. And every couple of months I poor vinegar in the head flush into hose and let sit over night or longer if possible. Doesn't stop the build up, but sufficient

Re: Stus-List head hoses

I'm just in the process of replacing all the hoses for the head and fuel fill due to permeation. I've got some of that old boat smell happening and I'm attacking whatever might be involved. I used the Trident 101 & 102 hose (only difference is one is white and one is black). It is pretty stif

Re: Stus-List Gate Valves

Gate Valves are no longer approved by ABYC. Bill Bina On 4/11/2016 12:51 PM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List wrote: Listers- My 30-1 has gate valves at the cockpit drain through-hulls. Don Casey writes that gat

Stus-List Timbers Beneath Mast Step

Listers- Since the mast is down on my early (hull #7) 30-1, I removed the mast step to inspect beneath. The aluminum step is screwed onto a heavily sealed wood block ~12"x6"x2", which is in turn screwed onto two short timbers running athwartship which I'm sure are intended to take the load of

Re: Stus-List Gate Valves

Gate valves should not be used ( despite their use by Benne, Jennaeu and others). Thread types should not be mixed. Joel 35/3 Hylas 44 Annapolis On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > As I recall, the reason they shouldn't be mixed is that

Re: Stus-List Gate Valves

I had a gate valve failure on my previous boat. The shaft corroded in the gate. The handle and shaft spun freely but the gate did not move. I had no way to know if the gate was open or closed. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Randy Stafford via CnC-L

Re: Stus-List Gate Valves

As I recall, the reason they shouldn't be mixed is that Marelon fittings have straight (non-tapered threads) while most bronze fittings have tapered threads. If these are mixed the softest material of the two will have deformed threads. I have been careful not to mix them for this reason. B

Re: Stus-List head hoses

Raritan makes the most flexible sanitary hose I have seen. Joel On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:53 PM, David Platt via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > The stuff you took out is probably exhaust hose. C&C seemed to use it > everywhere back in the day. You local marine supply store can se

Re: Stus-List head hoses

The stuff you took out is probably exhaust hose. C&C seemed to use it everywhere back in the day. You local marine supply store can sell you an appropriate sanitary hose that will be mush easier to work with and that will be impermeable to odours - assuming you tighten the clamps properly. B

Re: Stus-List head hoses

To avoid this in the future, flush a head full of vinegar through every couple of months ;) Joe Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Fred Hazzard via CnC-List Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 12:47 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Fred Hazzard Subject: Stus-List he

Stus-List Gate Valves

Listers- My 30-1 has gate valves at the cockpit drain through-hulls. Don Casey writes that gate valves are inherently unsafe and must not be substituted for seacocks. Any opinions on this issue? While I'm at it, Casey also writes that plastic (Marelon) through-hulls should not be mixed with

Re: Stus-List Western Lake Superior CnC Rendezvous

Count me in. I'd love to meet you guys in Bayfield for a beer or two. Tom Lynch Escape (to be renamed) C&C 33II On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Don’t forget Nate Flesness. Any others out there? > > As far as the recent weathe

Stus-List head hoses

Recently I had to remove the discharge hose from the head to clear it out. It had developed a crystalline growth that had clogged up with other stuff. After I literally beat the crap out of it to clear it, I was unable to get it back up behind the toilet as it was to stiff and difficult to work b

Re: Stus-List Swivel pod for Chartplotter tip

I was just screwing off and came across this Pro Pod for $90 I have no affiliation with boatersland. They do have some great pricing though!! Seems like great price is the opening will work... Danny -- Original Message -- From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" To: CnClist Cc: "Dennis

Re: Stus-List Swivel pod for Chartplotter tip

I built a small platform using an Edson bracket. My GPS came with a swivel mount. It can be seen here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsRjJHbmFuQ3dieGc Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 8:34 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wro

Re: Stus-List Automatic Charging --> alternator field

I have a "Zap-Stopper", which is a $2 15 volt zener diode that used to sell for about $20 back in the day. It connects across the alternator and shorts out temporary transient high voltage spikes. I think there are no longer sold because a permanent over-voltage condition will cause them to melt

Re: Stus-List GPS

I have found that there are apps that appear to share this data according to users so it may be possible (Gaia GPS/Mudmap). Dave Aries 1990 C&C 34+ New London, CT > On Apr 10, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Tim Goodyear via CnC-List > wrote: > > You do not have to enable WiFi to share a personal hotsp

Re: Stus-List Swivel pod for Chartplotter

If you really need one-handed adjustment, you can put a bit less friction on the balls (I know that it does not read that well) – it is adjustable on the arm - and you could move the device around. On the other hand, you should never be that busy on the boat that you could not spare a moment to

Re: Stus-List Swivel pod for Chartplotter tip

Another option is to build a shelf: http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/plotter_mount_edson You could put a small swivel mount on the shelf. On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 7:35 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List wrote: > Hi David, > Nice swivel pod. > Just had a thought. You may want to develope a habit of tur

Re: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments

Josh Your idea for single line reef is pretty much the stock setup on the c&c 115. On the 115 it runs inside the boom though to a shiv on the end. I believe there may be some mechanical advantage inside the boom as well but of course cannot see. What we have noted is that there is a lot of fr