Rayban Carbon Frame Aviators. Why pay extra for Carbon? They are light /
very stiff / don't lose their adjustment and stay on your face.
First pair of sunglasses I've ever owned that doesn't try to slide off my
face constantly after a year or 2 of use.
Given the fact that they are entrusted to
Hi David,
It does sound like it's running lean on the high end. The solution is
likely to be related to a fuel flow problem like a clogged carburetor jet
or obstruction / air leak / weak point in the fuel delivery system such as
a clogged filter / fuel pickup / regulator / missing gasket / dried
Hi David,
How about your boat's deck self-bleaching / cleaning every time it rains?
That's pretty much where mine is these days. I give it a bleach / Woody's
wax in the spring and another one in the fall. Beyond that I rinse the
deck once a month or two and clean the black streaks every month
Hi,
I hope you mopped the diesel up and cleaned with soap as much as you could
as quickly as possible. I've read about horror stories of diesel eating
the gelcoat / getting into the substrate and causing much worse damage...
-Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA
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well actually. And there is a seat in the shower stall too,
> as Edd pointed out.
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> Ken H.
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Hi Joe,
Both the 34+ (34/36) and the 37+ (37/40) have separate shower stalls. Both
have curtain and all. Amazingly enough even the one in the 34+ is normal
human size / comfortable to take a decent shower / store stuff / house a
free standing A/C unit.
Also, they have a separate shower sump wit
Hi Kevin
I didn't see anything to worry about either. Ours is the wing keel version
and we love it. To Steve's comment: It's fast as heck. On our lake, (No
wave surfing) I've seen sustained 8+ knots many times with bouts in the low
9's. I saw 9 momentarily in just 14 knots wind last fall with o
Hi Matt,
You might want to move from the ball and socket design and go simple with a
loop on the car and regular trigger jaw setup.
The car was originally missing on our 34+ and my rigger told me about the
simpler (And very popular) setup. It's cheap, super rugged, and easy to
use.
Here are some
I meant to say Wind shifts / tide / currents should NOT be issues...
Merry Christmas!
-Francois
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Hi John,
I would definitely consider it / most likely get it. I use a combination
of Sail Racer app on my phone and the layline function / Tack "A" vs tack
"B" on my (still killer) B&G Zeus2 Touch charplotter. Sail Racer is really
cool to have for starting line tactics and the B&G does give you n
Hi Rod,
I did mine using Petit Perfection (Now called Interlux Perfection) and
after 6 coats on one side and 5 on the other it came out: Perfect. After 5
years, it's still perfect and the only maintenance it has received is the
occasional wipe down using lake water while we're swimming.
Pictur
I wish there was a secret formula on that beyond who you already know,
luck, time, and lots of patience..
This year I decided to up our game and go spinnaker class only to be
reminded (Too many times) why I didn't do it in the past.
Main reason for staying JAM before: crew.
Main challenges this y
Hi Bill,
I'm familiar with gear pumps and I saw what I was fearing might be an
issue: Grease / gear material shavings.
The "Don't use the pump for this use case" list includes "Foodstuff
Liquids" in the possible dangers list it says 'Foodstuff Liquid
contamination'
I wouldn't use that as a fresh
I have agreed upon value with Allstate. Straight-up agreed-upon value
coverage, 35-40% cheaper than Boat US and Geico. (Geico's been insuring my
cars since the 90's but they wouldn't / couldn't compete with Allstate.)
I'm on an inland lake / that most likely makes a difference.
Your actual mile
Hi David,
I have the same system which I have improved with a better block system but
there is not even a hint of over-stressing the transom. Of note: As per
one of the prior comments I always set the adjustment back to loose before
leaving the boat.
I use it / pull it all the way down pretty mu
Sounds like fun!
I would make every effort to drive over. I've toyed with going up to the
Northeast events a few times including this year but the extended trips
required didn't work with my schedule..
-Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA
Personally, I'd leave it alone / no filter is necessary or beneficial if it
didn't have one from the factory.
The Yanmar guys have sold hundreds of thousands of those engines.. The
engineers know what they're doing. How much dust is in suspension in your
enclosed / damp engine room?
If you intro
I second the Biobor JF !
It's got to be good if it's Biobor Jean-Francois (JF) Lol
All kidding aside, I've used it religiously and my fuel looks like
green-ish maple syrup. Nice and clear. Not only in the Racor but It's
been checked by shining a flashlight in the fuel tank inspection port,
cle
Dave's math is right.
These guys may know their stuff on software but they don't apparently don't
know much about racing a sailboat. To win you have to work ALL the
details. Completely dismissing any of the components is professing
ignorance.
The racing software helps.. to a point. I've used t
Hi Bill,
There are a few ways to skin that cat. I'm also an IT guy, we live for
workarounds :-)
Skin the cat #1 To Navico's point: It would probably be somewhat of a feat
to get the Zeus2 to recognize a 20 + year old WP 30 as a bonafide NMEA2000
modern day autopilot. Someone could spend months
Good am all,
I'm finally about to replace my old broken Navico wheel pilot with a
similar one I found used cheap.
I would like to network it with my B&G Zeus2 charplotter to allow the
"Steer to wind" feature.
- The Wheel pilot needs the old NMEA 0183 network connection and
fortunately the Zeus2
ruiser and carry various
petroleum products I would recommend running the blower. Also my coast
guards friends to the south asked me in a had a blower and requested I turn
it on when I was boarded for an inspection
Mike
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Hi Matthew,
If you have any diesel smell in the cabin you should probably take a look
at your exhaust system.
I used to have an ever slight smell in mine then it got to the point where
one day, my wife felt sick from being in the cabin while we were motoring
for a while.
The problem was a plugge
When to run a blower with a Diesel?
Never. That's part of the whole point of having a diesel in the first
place.
Best Regards,
-Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA
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A couple more points.
First I want to mention that what ultimately helped me get through
the ordeal was Chuck Scheafer and this list.
I knew from having actually motored on Chuck's boat and that the Max Prop
would work well. I went for the Flex O fold mostly because it was over
$1,000 cheaper an
Hi Edd,
I know this one's been already extensively covered. But.
David Mocny whom also posts (Used to?) on this list also installed A/C on
his 37+ some years ago.
He went with 2 units: A 16,000 BTU (If I remember right) in the back and a
smaller unit for the v-birth / salon area. I'm certain
Hi Gary,
You're right the 34+, 34/36, 34 R's came with a variety of engines and
transmissions. They had me submit both my engine serial # and a picture of
the transmission placard. (Yanmar 3GM30F / Kanzaki 2.6:1 Ratio) and they
said: "Your engine is the most popular out there, we know what we're
Last June, I took the opportunity to remove my old tired Martec prop and
send it to the factory for a rebuild while my boat was on the hard for a
new bottom paint,
Sounded like a great idea except that the post office lost the prop.
Upon realizing that the prop was gone for good, I did much rese
Hi Shawn,
For what it's worth, my cabin top handrails were varnished and looking
pretty bad. I sanded them . and they look new. It was pretty easy to sand,
it should work out well for you.
Good Luck with the project.
regards,
Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA
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Hi Fred,
I just pour some of Starbrite's cleaner in my sump. Works well. I tend
to mostly use Starbrite stuff for cleaning these days. I found that their
products typically perform much better than brand X and are often cheaper.
It's on sale 40% off at West right now.
https://www.westmarine.c
Hi Dennis,
I replaced mine about 4 years ago, it's still running 24/7 * 12 months a
year.
I also replaced the NiMH battery at the same time, I used an Eneloop "C"
size, don't think those are still available. They sell a "C" adapter for
their AA battery or you can just buy a regular NiMH "C" or su
Hi Russ,
I had alternator issues (Diodes) I looked into having refurbed and found
it wasn't worth fooling with. I found a shiny, brand new, genuine Hitachi
(Yanmar's OEM) alternator for about $75.00- 80.00 shipped on eBay. I just
put it in myself, it was a plug and play 30-45 minutes install.
I would call Sirius and ask.
I've had Sirius XM in my cars since 2008 and any kind of obstruction
absolutely blocks the signal. Even tree leaves which are not contiguous
block the signal.
Same for home receivers, heck they loose signal when obstructed by thick
clouds from a storm
Unless there's
Good afternoon all.
I need some help figuring out on the thread castle nut used to hold the
prop on my 34+ . It's a 1 1/8 stainless steel shaft with a tapered end. I
know the thread is not 3/4 - 10 because I bought replacement castle nut
with that thread and they did not work, it looked small .
Hi Chuck,
I used Perfection on my cove stripe 5 years ago, I just looked at it in the
yard today after pulling it out of the water for the first time in 5 years
and I still have... Perfection.
When I applied it 5 years ago like you, I picked the wrong time of day /
got direct sunlight and I had
Like Chuck,
I'm guilty of bragging about the competition crushing speed of my 34+ and
her 40 footer like accommodations but I also came close to making an offer
on a Hunter 37.5.
If you google it a bit, you'll find a guy who's circumnavigated a few times
over on a Hunter 37.5.
I also have a (Wea
Hi,
I use 1/2 inch Sta. Easy on the hands, best bang for the buck. No need
for any shackle just use a "Luggage Tag Hitch " or "Girth Hitch" knot.
There are enough opportunities for this thing to snag during tacks as it
is.
I've been using the luggage tag hitch on all my foresail uses for
severa
Hi Marek,
We don't worry about it. The pink stuff is the backup for the backup...
I run 2 "True North" heaters with one set at the lowest "No Freeze" setting
in case the main one fails. The Pink stuff is in case both stop because of
extended power failure that could caused by a bad spell of fre
Hi All,
Pretty straightforward here:
Emptying the tanks:
I Just run the tanks dry by running the water thorough the faucets normally
then clean / dry the tanks using paper towels through the access ports.
Adding the pink stuff:
There's a "T" fitting after the pump (Alleviates having to run alcoh
Hi Dave,
I just use the regular cheapo yellow plastic 5 gal Jerry can I bought at
Advance Auto parts..
When I first saw it I didn't care for the "over engineered" spout system
now mandated by the feds but it turns-out to work really well. It does
not allow the fuel to flow until you press the s
Just a quick note as a lifetime R/C planes guy with a fair amount of
experience experimenting with battery chemistry..
The "Lithium" batteries referred to by Joel are NOT the same as the
exploding laptop / phone batteries you hear about on the news.
The batteries in Laptops / Phones / Electric ca
Hi Rob,
Very cool to "see" you on the list. I have the privilege to own a 1990 34+
and 5 years into owning it I'm still amazed at how far ahead of its time
this boat was.
My boat was originally a NY great lake boat, then moved to Florida, and
eventually Lake Lanier (Near Atlanta). I believe I'm
Hi Richard,
I was in the middle of extended negotiations when you came down to look at
the boat. The broker told me about you guys coming (Hoping it would
motivate me) / I held firm hoping you wouldn't put a competing offer
forward.
I'm glad it all worked out well.
Nice to "Meet you"
-Francoi
https://photos.app.goo.gl/4xyU67zgySwT1zkSA
Sailing on Flo's coattails Saturday. Steady 12-15 knots winds with bouts in
the mid 20's, pretty sporty joyride :-)
-Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
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Hi Jim / Chuck
I would absolutely look at the elbow. I replaced pretty much everything on
my 3GM30F's cooling system except the heat exchanger chasing cooling issues
and the main culprit was the elbow, which eventually was 100% obstructed.
The added pressure in the system caused my aging hoses to
Hi James,
I would remove some of the deck hardware around the mast and double check.
I don't believe that the coachwork area is cored and where you see the
issues it's than likely just compression damage on the Coromat. I.E I'm
fairly confident that there's no rot and you could more than likely e
Hey, Nothing that about $200,000.00 and 2+ years of solid work wouldn't
fix..
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1982/C%26C--3232551/Deale/MD/United-States?
refSource=standard%20listing#.W1ZvV7gnaUk
-Francois
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA
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Than
Hi Tom,
Holland Marine (http://www.hollandmarine.com/) in Toronto has the original
C&C stars and diamond pattern to add the finished factory look to your
stripe.
I used those on my boat when I re-did the strip 4 years ago, I used a
Bayliner blue stripe (From https://greatlakesskipper.com ) that
Hi Dave,
I'm truly sorry.. It happens, most of us can confess to bottoming out. I
my 5 years I've run aground twice here on the lake in much less challenging
situations. I was fortunate the bottom here is mostly mud.
I know how stuffs gets a bit crazy as you cross the finish line in less
than id
Hi John,
I had the same symptoms on mine, at first I just made sure my batteries
were on "All" at least at the beginning of the weekend and that bought me a
couple years..
Then I replaced the button switch as there's no relay and it takes the
brunt of the current. That bought me another year.
I
Hi Bruce,
You don't want the Edson idler plate anyway because they are made out of
mild steel which is not suited for the application and why they corrode
into oblivion. (We have the same issues on the 34+ , 34/36, 36+, and 34R
variants
If your's is still decent you can send it to Garhauer
https:
If you're looking at blue smoke it's not as likely to be the injectors.
Injectors usually get linked to black smoke / an overly rich mixture.
Blue smoke is more likely compression related or somehow the lube oil blows
by the rings and burns (It seals-up as the metal expands upon warming up)
But it
I would have a Nordac 3Di as my 135 Genoa and probably as a main if North
didn't try to extort money from me..
Last october, I put in an order fro the 3Di Nordac 135% genoa complete with
a 50% deposit.
A month later, instead of an update on the progress of the order, my local
loft got a ransom no
Thanks for sharing, it's a well written and poignant story.
I think it's easy to find faults from a distance. I'm also of the opinion
that younger / tougher sailors would have sailed home as the mast was still
up, the sails there, the boat wasn't taking on water, and the inoperable
pumps sounded
Hi Dennis,
You could also call Rick Zern 850.261.4129 (http://zernrigging.com)
Great guy, he's definitely Navtec certified some say he's the best Navtec
guy in the Southeast.
He's in Pensacola, your neck of the woods. Heck, you could drive your
adjuster over in a pinch...
Good luck on the proje
Our Typical beercan races were 2.6 - 2.8 nm so it's 198-102= We owe them 96
sec per mile X 2.6 - 2.8 = 4:30 to 4:48 or close to 5 minutes for us LOL.
We were Typically less then 30 seconds ahead in corrected time so always a
nail biter on both sides (A tribute to how well the PHRF systems works wh
Yep I hear you on that.
There's a few Catalina 27's on my lake too with phrfs ranging from 198
-213. The 198 phrf boat is said to be an ex national champion with the
hull's gelcoat ground-off to save weight..
He's good sailor (British chap), had fresh sails, was a tough nut to
crack, especially
Hi Mike,
I have this Johnson pump (
https://www.westmarine.com/buy/johnson-pump--cartridge-bilge-pumps--P011_330_001_541?recordNum=17)
in mine in conjunction with a Water Wich. The pump is the small / cheap
one as my sump space is extremely limited. It's been in there 4 years / so
far it's been f
Thanks guys,
I'll double check the wiring next time. I do have 2 banks consisting of
3 batteries: 1 smaller unit (Still "Marine Deep cycle" ) as a starting
battery and 2 larger ones connected in parallel as house.
I also have a "smart" Xantrex Truecharge2 charger. Since we sometimes
can't mak
Do you guys know if the alternator charges all the batteries all the time?
I was under the impression that the selector switch effectively directed
all the current from the battery banks including charging from the
alternator and I usually run on "both" to make sure all the batteries get
exercised
Hi Bruce,
Mine is all Sta Set on our 34+ it's directly connected to the sail via a
shackle and a simple bowline knot. It works perfectly. The boat is much
the same as the 37+ as it was Rob Ball's 37+ version 2.0 / a few feet
shorter.
-Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA
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On a 36? Unless you have a carbon pole / The Incredible Hulk / or both on
your foredeck: You gotta use Dip Pole and in anything more than a light
breeze a full complement of fore / after guys
As you know my boat is really a 36 footer and my spin is over 800 sq / ft.
In addition to having specifi
That's a great setup Josh.
Ours is a bear for similar reasons with even less leverage on the cabin-top
traveler.
So far we just grinned and beared it. I'll put something similar on the to
do list :-)
-Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, Georgia
My boat came setup from the PO with
Hi Kevin,
The only way I know of is to use another tach... That doesn't have to be
expensive or complicated. I used my R/C airplanes optical tach to validate
mine and it worked fine. You paint a sliver or white stripe on the shaft /
shine a flashlight on it / point the tach at it.
They are abo
Hi Kevin,
In addition to making sure the transmission is fully engaged (We had that
issue too, for me, it was solved with a simple cable adjustment), it sounds
like you should jump in the water and take a good look at your prop. What
you need to do is grab the blades and wiggle them against the fo
We had the same problem a couple years ago, it was the elbow.
Many "Experts" told me not to waste time with the elbow on a freshwater
boat. Wrong.
Duly following the "expert" advice I fixed / replaced everything else and
reamed all the tubes in the heat exchanger using wood dowels. It was not an
Hi Thomas,
Below is what I know about the layup schedule on the 34 / 37 + boats. I got
this off a forum somewhere (Not this one) a few years ago.
Topsides (total thickness 1.19")
1. Gelcoat
2. 1.5 oz. Chop
3. 1.5 oz. Mat
4. C72K/100 Kevlar Fabmat
5. 1” Balsa Core
6. C72K/100 Kevlar Fabmat
Bottom
Hi Chuck,
I looked at those as well. They did not have the Strobe at the time, to
get the strobe you had to go DIY. It has nice features. The main
difference in price is the certification and the machined aluminum case.
The MarineBeam and most of the units in that price range "meet or exceed"
t
I understand.
Another thing I forgot to mention is the built-in Windex light. If you
sail at night it's really nice to have.
Decisions, Decisions...
I hope it works out to your liking!
-Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA
On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 1:34 PM, Matthew Schlanger
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Hi Matt,
When I took my mast down I took a good look at the brittle dried-up
housing, crazed plastic lens, and iffy led conversion on the existing unit
and threw it in the trash. I replaced it with the SignalMate tricolor (
https://signalmate.com/navigation-light-models/combination-tri-color-with
Hi James,
I have a 34/36 and I did replace the sensor twice.. Once with the mast off
and once "in-situ"/
My mast did have a conduit and I used the old wire as a messenger line as
mentioned before. Really straightforward / no issues.
The harder part is that I had to fabricate a custom aluminum b
Hi Bruce,
I have a Martec folder on my boat (34+ also called 34/36) which is your
boat's little sister.
We've been using it for 3 seasons and it's world of difference in sailing
speed compared to a fixed 3 blades. It's measurably better in all
conditions.
What you need to get it going:
- Marte
I have seen little "spouts" you can buy to keep the water away from the
hull.
Here's the easiest way to keep the black streaks at bay: Keep your deck
clean. Especially on the 1st couple inches near the toe rail where the
crud accumulates.
Doing that regularly has reduced my black streaks to almo
hout crew, no arguments, no worries, I love the
>> experiences without any negatives. I haven't won anything but I'm having
>> fun doing the distance races to Baltimore or Annapolis out and back.
>>
>>
>> You should consider sailing solo or even two handed. J
I sail a 34+, not a 29 but here's what I was told by my sail maker who was
the guy beat in the phrf cruiser class for many years on the lake.
For what it's worth:
For racing in light wind conditions (10 and under) , especially beer can
racing the 150 - 155 gennies are gold, you get great power ac
rk fine for about 100
Very confusing
I looked it up and there is something about running A stronger wire to the
starter
Maybe that's the problem?
I'd like to know myself
Dan
1970 Cv hull 148
Ipswich
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Mastry (www.mastry.com) does it again! I just replaced the starter on Take
Five this weekend and got a sweet deal on a re-man Hitachi unit: US $128.44
+ shipping. Mastry's the best! They always have the best price, they even
beat eBay and the shipping is super fast.
That's for a real deal Yanmar /
I just replaced mine about 5 months ago. I luckily ran into an NOS one for
half price at the marina swap meet about 2 years ago. I finally put it in
this year when we re-did my fuel system.
Mine had not actually failed, it was just a bit leaky, weeping some when
underway. I figured it couldn't h
Hi,
You should take a look at the lines and check for cracks in the Racor
housing.. My engine developed loss of power / stalling issues last year
and it was related to an air leak, once we started looking at the fuel
system in details we found issues everywhere.
I'm not kidding. My lift pump was
Loved it. This guy makes me look like a saint. I showed it to my whole
crew errr I mean family :-)
-Francois
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA
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Sorry, the other comment was sent out prematurely when I accidentally hit a
shortcut key.
Anyway..
Our stipulations:
Except for a few exceptions: Your start and finish time are on the honor
system as the commodore / RC are racing too (My best sailing buddy and
nemesis :-) )
$5.00 entry fee to c
We do 'em all the time.
We use the aforementioned spreadsheets to determine start times according
to course length and phrf.
We do add a few details:
- We have 2 classes / fleets:
Performance: Any boat flying a spinnaker and sport boats / Racer
Cruisers (No Spin)
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I agree with Tom:
"The black smoke may indicate excessive carbon buildup. If you don't have
three hours to run it is, next time you bring her in while the engine is
still running out it in neutral and run it up to 90% of max RPM for about 5
minutes.
Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera"
The combination of
In our club you get a 1 score, same as 1 st place, for doing RC..
It's usually reasonably well attended.
-François Rivard
34+ "Take Five'
Lake Lanier, GA
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