lps,
Gary
St. Michaels
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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 9:32 PM
Subject: Stus-List Handicap Review
Several weeks ago I asked a question on the forum and there were several
responses, basically no one really knows the an
You bad.
G
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Yes, my favorites were, Under the Boardwalk, and Up on the Roof.
Bill Coleman
C&C 39
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Yes, my favorites were, Under the Boardwalk, and Up on the Roof.
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g/winning in a competitive
fully crewed fleet? Nope.
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Maybe the PHRF rating people see an asso much like a 150+% genny.
I know when I stretch back Calypsos 25 year o
DeYoung wrote:
From: Martin DeYoung
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
Date: Wednesday, February 13, 2013, 7:17 PM
IIRC correctly bloopers prefer better than light air to be effective. I would
guess 10 TWS and up may be successful. While I
is C.
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap Review
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
Date: Thursday, February 14, 2013, 8:29 AM
Proposed and approved at last handicap committee meeting, GYA (Gulf Yachting
Association) PHRF rules allow a non-sprit boat to add a sprit up to 2.5 feet
and an asym
Not sure if that's true everywhere about the increased chute size not being
penalized.
I think most places would adjust 6sec/mi for each 10% of chute increase.
Ron
Wild Cheri
C&C 30
STL
--- On Wed, 2/13/13, Rick Brass wrote:
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap Revie
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In our area, we have a 3sec/mi penalty for each 10% a sprit end point
would be over the J. That's the basic recommendation from PHRF. Since
stations are independent, there are variations.
Ron
Wild Cheri
C&C 30
STL
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ect: Stus-List Handicap Review
To: "C&C Forum"
Date: Wednesday, February 13, 2013, 8:32 PM
Several weeks ago I asked a question on the forum and there were several
responses, basically no one really knows the answer. My question was, what
penalty would I incur by adding a bow s
ENT
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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 9:32 PM
Subject: Stus-List Handicap Review
Several weeks ago I asked a question on the forum and there were several
responses, basically no one really knows the answer. My question was, what
penalty would I incur by adding a bow
by case review.
Dennis C.
>
> From: Rick Brass
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 9:50 PM
>Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap Review
>
>
>Tom;
>
>I thought that one of the Chessie sailors had indicated
dard pole would hurt his rating? Is he mounting the pole further forward? I think there is more to this.ChuckResolute1990 C&C 34RAtlantic City, NJFrom: "Gary Nylander" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.comSent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 4:27:22 PMSubject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
9:32 PM
To: C&C Forum
Subject: Stus-List Handicap Review
Several weeks ago I asked a question on the forum and there were several
responses, basically no one really knows the answer. My question was, what
penalty would I incur by adding a bow sprit to my foredeck for flying the
asymmetric
Tom, I'd like to see a photo of that sail!
Richard
1987 33-II
Richard N. Bush Law Offices
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From: TOM VINCENT
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Sent: Wed, Feb 13, 2013 9:32 pm
Subject: Stus-List
t;To: C&C Forum
>Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 8:32 PM
>Subject: Stus-List Handicap Review
>
>
>
>Several weeks ago I asked a question on the forum and there were several
>responses, basically no one really knows the answer. My question was, what
>penalty woul
ss
Hampton VA
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Subject: Stus-List Handicap Review
Several weeks ago I asked a question on the forum and there were several
responses, basically no on
Tom,
WHy was the sock ineffective? I'm thinking of getting one, mostly for
cruising.
You are right. There will likely be a penalty, but no one knows what it
will be. I suspect the longer the pole the greater the penalty. I've done
inside and outside gybes without a pole. The outside is easie
Several weeks ago I asked a question on the forum and there were several
responses, basically no one really knows the answer. My question was, what
penalty would I incur by adding a bow sprit to my foredeck for flying the
asymmetrical spinnaker. I had purchased a Forespar sprit at the Annapolis
Blooper - the only sail you trim with the halyard. Guess I'm old.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
>
> From: Andrew Burton
>To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
>Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 6:58 PM
>Subject: Re
haped spinnaker that
collapses every few minutes.
Martin
Calypso
1970 C&C 43
Seattle
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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 4:18 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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gt; To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
>
> I remember more than one Swiftsure when the conditions were too light for the
> drifter so we shifted to the Dazy staysail and started passing boats.
>
> Andrew Burton
> 61 W Narragansett
> Newport,
had one in the late
>> '60's (friend's boat) that was about 180%. If you flattened that out and
>> made it with a bit more of a luff/leech consideration, you would have an
>> asym.
>>
>> Gary
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Mart
13, 2013 4:48 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
I remember more than one Swiftsure when the conditions were too light for the
drifter so we shifted to the Dazy staysail and started passing boats.
Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI
USA0
WS.
>
> Martin
> Calypso
> 1970 C&C 43
> Seattle
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> Nylander
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 2:51 PM
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>
> A
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We have a 1/2 oz Drifter on Corsair that was made in 1971 that is always on
the boat. I can make a knot of boat spe
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Maybe the PHRF rating people see an asso much like a 150+% g
>
> He's hoping that ChesBay PHRF will re-think their policy.
>
> Gary Nylander
> St. Michaels MD
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Jake Brodersen
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Sent:* Monday, February 11, 2013 9:12 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Handi
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
Any of you old enough to remember the 'drifters'? We had one in the late '60's
(friend&#x
Martin DeYoung
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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
Maybe the PHRF rating people see an asso much like a 150+% genny.
I know when I stretch back Calypso's 25 year old ¾ oz spinny on a tight reach
the
much guesswork.
Gary
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From: Chuck S
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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
I appreciate the analysis of when each sail is preferred, reaching vs
running, but isn't an asym
ailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson
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I'm a little surprised too. We are assuming the pole = J. I don't know if
asyms are necessarily smaller. There are
; He's hoping that ChesBay PHRF will re-think their policy.
>
> Gary Nylander
> St. Michaels MD
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Jake Brodersen
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Sent:* Monday, February 11, 2013 9:12 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Handica
unting the pole further forward? I think there is more to this.ChuckResolute1990 C&C 34RAtlantic City, NJFrom: "Gary Nylander" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.comSent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 4:27:22 PMSubject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
I checked with my expert - Cal 40 with both
t@cnc-list.com
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Bill,
I really appreciate the info. About 90% of our racing is all W-L courses.
The symmetrical chutes run deep real well. We have one J-105 with an asym. He
races all by himself. It doesn&#x
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
Bill,
I really appreciate the info. About 90% of our racing is all W-L courses.
The symmetrical chutes run deep real well. We have one J-105 with an asym. He
races all by himself. It doesn't lo
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
Jake,
I don't think I am usually as aggressive as you, I am guessing, but - (these
are on distance races) I normally start out with an A sail on a headsail
tack shackle- if the wind comes back, and I believe it will stay back, I
will p
:40 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
Joel,
That's an excellent idea. Of those who have them for racing, are they
tacked to the bow, to a pole laid on deck, or a custom sprit?
Jake
Jake Brodersen
C&C 35 Mk-III
Midnight Mistress
Hampton
ss
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 10:50 AM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review - Now A-sail
Jake,
Based on my experience with both my 25 and my 38, I would tell you not to
bother with an A-sail for racing on your boat.
The benefit to the A-sail vs. a symmetric s
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BTW I have priced spinnaker socks. The cheapest are from North Sails
Direct. About 7.50 a foot vs. 12 for a
m
*Sent:* Sunday, February 10, 2013 8:39 AM
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Handicap review
Joel,
That’s an excellent idea. Of those who have them for racing, are they
tacked to the bow, to a pole laid on deck, or a custom sprit?
Jake
*Jake Brodersen*
*C&C 35 Mk-III*
*Midnight Mistress*
*
ugh to see how low the tack was.
Gary
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From: Jake Brodersen
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
Joel,
That's an excellent idea. Of those who have them for racing, are they
ich sail to fly.
Rick Brass
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Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 8:40 AM
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Joel,
That's an excellent idea. Of those who have th
Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
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Jake,
Its cheaper th
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Jake
Might be time to switch to an asym.
Joel
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Dwight,
I’m not looking to trade her in. She is, after all, the owner. She makes
the boat payments and I lov
bject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
Dwight,
I'm not looking to trade her in. She is, after all, the owner. She makes
the boat payments and I love her. I am in the market for a new bow person.
Preferably I can find a nice 20-something that weighs about 100#, can bench
press 220,
y and the afterguy.
Jake
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Some women are just high maintenance!!! You're doing the smart thing,
013 2:13 PM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
Thanks for the kind mention Gary. Right now the 35 is doing major damage to
my checking account as I do winter upgrades and maintenance.
Currently debating the spin/non-spin options for sailing this year.
Currently loo
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It still depends a bit on where you are sailing. My 30-1 gets three(!) seconds
a mile from a J-24 and in medium to light air and the flat water we sail in,
they clobber me (to the point that we have moved them into the A fleet, the
res
d Schillay
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
Dwight,
That might have been the intention, but that's not what it became. And, when
you have an area where there is one or two of same-model boats, it's a gues
Gary Nylander wrote:
Were they the shallow draft models? Our PHRF has the SD models at 87.
Gary
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From: Edd Schillay
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
The brain trust at the YRALIS PHRF Board h
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Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
True, but I keep spilling my beer at the jibe mark in my Laser
Kirk Sneddon
C&C 29 Mk II
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Were they the shallow draft models? Our PHRF has the SD models at 87.
Gary
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From: Edd Schillay
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
The brain trust at the YRALIS PHRF Board had them at
2
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From: Indigo
To: cnc-list
Sent: Sat, Feb 9, 2013 9:56 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
This explains the popularity of one-design racing - especially those classes
with sensible class rules.
--
Jonathan
Trade Show Services
Cell:
True, but I keep spilling my beer at the jibe mark in my Laser
Kirk Sneddon
C&C 29 Mk II
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Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 9:56 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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This expl
not
> C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd
> Schillay
> Sent: February 8, 2013 8:54 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
>
> Dwight,
Surprising anyone races at all.
Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
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Sent: February 8, 2013 8:54 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handic
Margaret's Bay, NS
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Sent: February 8, 2013 5:19 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
All,
Here's my 3 cents (increased for inflation) on PHRF. In the past,
I'v
Edd, it's a performance based system.
Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
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Sent: February 8, 2013 5:19 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List H
lassic is when my friend took the inboard diesel,
> strut, prop, etc. out of his Andrews 26 and got a handicap increase from
> 138 to 141 never could understand the logic behind that.
>
> What does your group have for the J105?
>
> Gary
> Chesbay
>
> - Original Mes
hat does your group have for the J105?
Gary
Chesbay
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From: Edd Schillay
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
All,
)
Here's my 3 cents (increased for inflation) on PHRF. In the past, I've found
the PHRF
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
All,
)
Here's my 3 cents (increased for inflation) on PHRF. In the past, I've found
the PHRF Board from the YRA of LIS to be the most corrupt and
ethically-challenged group in existence. To
I think what you're asking for is a measurement rule, Edd. And if we can get
some foreigners interested in it, we can call it an international rule... For
offshore boats. Yeah, the International Offshore Rule, IOR for short. Oh wait...
Seriously, the human factor is what makes PHRF a better rule
All,
Here's my 3 cents (increased for inflation) on PHRF. In the past, I've
found the PHRF Board from the YRA of LIS to be the most corrupt and
ethically-challenged group in existence. To quote a famous movie, "You will
never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy."
No
My C&C 29 Mk 2 has a 174 rating for Spinnaker and 195 for White Sail.
In fairness I should get another 2 points for the extra weight just for my
stereo speakers, 3 for the excess weight for my stores of rum, 3 for the
fact that 20% of the time we go to the wrong mark.
Fair is fair!
Ron Ander
E.Y
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Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:15 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
Sucks only if you're not in with the handicap committee. If you've got
contacts on the rating committee and you own a boat that
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
Dennis
> C.
> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:15 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
>
> Sucks only if you're not in with the ha
dwight wrote:
...you appear to write more effectively than I do.I also have some
trophies, mostly plastic keepers ...
Yeah. Most of my trophies are latex, and I usually toss them
overboard. The 'keepers' tend to clog up the pumps.
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ed to be happy with only
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Subject: Re:
t; 6.3
>>
>> 0
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> 99. These are our ratings up on the frozen north.I imagine at least
>> 2 of these are not around anymore, all these 4 ratings have modifications,
>> from keels to spars.
>>
>> I am probab
s
>> > laps around a C&C 43 in light air. I do get even with the sporty boats
>> when
>> > in a low speed close crossing/mark rounding situation I inform the
>> > sporty
>> > boat that they will need a liferaft before a protest flag if they stick
>> > their bow into tha
Gary Nylander
1980 30-1 #593
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From: "Curtis"
To:
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
So where can I find the rating for 1981 C&C 30 MK1 All Hank on sails,
folding 2 blade prop with asy sail. PHRF?
On 2/8
rty
> > boat that they will need a liferaft before a protest flag if they stick
> > their bow into that closing space.
> >
> > Martin
> > Calypso
> > 1970 C&C 43
> > Seattle
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> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis
> C.
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
>
> Sucks only if you're not in with the
artin
Calypso
1970 C&C 43
Seattle
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Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:15 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
Sucks only if you're not in with the
>> 46
>>
>> 14.1
>>
>> 39.5
>>
>> 31.7
>>
>> 11.5
>>
>> 6.3
>>
>> 0
>>
>>
>>
>> 99. These are our ratings up on the frozen north. I imagine at least 2
>> of these are not ar
om keels to spars.
>
> I am probably the cus3, I got docked 6 seconds for adding a foot to my
> boom and a Roach Which, I might add was worth it.
>
> ** **
>
> BTW, that 16000 should be 21000. Which would probably bring these ratings
> to 110.
>
> ** **
>
> Bill Coleman
day, February 06, 2013 6:34 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
Bill
What number are the Clubs in your area using for rating your 39 under PHRF?
Brgds
Jack
HONEY
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Self policing sport:
We have been racing in non-spinnaker class, and we always have new pe
mast. Can’t
be held by a person.
Bill Coleman
C&C 39
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck S
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 5:00 PM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
Self policing sport:
We have been racin
Bay, NS
_
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Nylander
Sent: February 6, 2013 6:49 PM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
Chuck, I went through the same thought process some years back. The PHRF
rules around here (ChesBay) are tha
: "Michael Cotton" , cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 4:49:12 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
If your regulations limit the pole to J and someone breaks that, then they
should be protested. If you think it is ignorance on their part you can
polit
bject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
Self policing sport:
We have been racing in non-spinnaker class, and we always have new people
aboard learning. And I'm still learning myself.
In a very short race, with drifter light winds, my crew tried to use a boat
hook to hold out the genoa c
nduct. Cheating, period. The last boat I
had with a adjustable pole had a cable swedged between the eyes so it could not
be extended beyound "J".
michael Cotton
From: "Hoyt, Mike" < mike.h...@impgroup.com >
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Wednesday, F
tween the eyes so it
> could not be extended beyound "J".
> michael Cotton
>
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> *From:* "Hoyt, Mike"
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 6, 2013 10:02 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: St
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>Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
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>This is cheating. No different than skipping a mark or
breaking any other rule. I hoe the violators are
protested
>
>In PHRFNS whisdker pole and spinnaker are
...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Goodyear
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 10:43 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
PHRF New England is the same; whisker pole length <= J, but many boats
with the telescoping poles are getting away with an unfair handicap
advant
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim
> Goodyear
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 05, 2013 9:43 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Handicap review
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> PHRF New England is the
boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Goodyear
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 9:43 PM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
PHRF New England is the same; whisker pole length <= J, but many boats with
the telescoping poles are getting away with an unfair h
f *Eric
> Baumes
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 05, 2013 7:27 PM
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> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Handicap review
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> Some YRAs have moved to giving separate spin/nspin ratings because boats
> with a fractional rig and blade jib
idnight Mistress
Hampton VA
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Eric
Baumes
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 7:27 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
Some YRAs have moved to giving separate spin/nspin ratings because boats
Eric,
This is interesting.
Thought spin pole length had to be
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 7:26:53 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
Some YRAs have moved to giving separate spin/nspin ratings because boats with a
fractional rig and blade jib (usually
iver - smooth water off the Chesapeake
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Gary Nylander
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 29, 2013 11:23 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Handicap review
>
> What Ches Bay has done is assign a non-spin rating for boa
dard pole) and 78 without.
Gary
- Original Message -
From: Hoyt, Mike
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
Explain how non spin and spin ratings are
hout.
Gary
- Original Message -
From: Hoyt, Mike
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
Explain how non spin and spin ratings are the
leets, but it sure is simple!
Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
36 XL/kcb
Greenville, NC
cenel...@aol.com
-Original Message-
From: Joel Aronson
To: cnc-list
Sent: Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:06 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
I agree, but when is the last time you saw a J30 in a non-
om] *On Behalf Of *Joel
> Aronson
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 29, 2013 9:48 AM
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> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Handicap review
>
> PHRF Chesapeake gives a single rating. Races are either spin or
> non-spin. I guess they assume that use of a chute be
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