You have to use the SourceResolver. Each sitemap component (action,
generator, transformer) gets this object either in the act() method
or in the setup() method.
if you pass a relative path into the SOurcerResolver it's resolved
relative to the current sitemap.
HTH
Carsten
-Original
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Any Action can be re-written as a Matcher in 10-15 seconds (only
exception is this redirect mentioned above... shall we remove
redirector from action interface? ;-) ). Thus, I totally miss the
point why actions should be disallowed.
because actions
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Any Action can be re-written as a Matcher in 10-15 seconds (only
exception is this redirect mentioned above... shall we remove
redirector from action interface? ;-) ). Thus, I totally miss the
point why actions should be disallowed.
Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
Dave Brondsema wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, Dave Brondsema wrote:
We at Forrest are seeing more JCS log messages than we want. I tried
setting up a log4j.properties file to control it, but that didn't
seem to
work. At any rate, it looks like they're using commons
Jean-Claude == Jean-Claude Moissinac [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jean-Claude I'm searching from more than two hours for a mean to
Jean-Claude know the absolute path to the current sitemap in my
Jean-Claude action code. If I use ... Context context =
Jean-Claude
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
On which level can we forbid it? Do we have to change the
Action interface or can we forbid redirects of actions that
are used in VPCs only?
We can just pass an exception throwing redirector into an
action that is inside a VPCs; so no need for a change to the
-Original Message- From: Jean-Claude Moissinac
Many samples which seams to use such an information are hard
coded and become false if there are moved See, for exemple, the
samples: /samples/modules/realpath.html
/samples/sources/xsp/file ... and how they works.
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Ugo Cei wrote:
Il giorno 12/lug/04, alle 18:23, Marc Portier ha scritto:
think so too, just needs more wild thinking and somebody doing :-)
Since I'm getting more and more bored with my daytime job, I ended up
doing something:
Colin Paul Adams wrote:
But this is only a solution when a Source object is what you want.
This is not the case for me. I need this information from
WITHIN a Source object, as I need to pass an absolute
directory path to a Berkeley DB XML API.
I tried using context.getRealPath (
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
I think it will be a question of doing it.
:)
If Ugo presents a
functional prototyp of Spring that supports Real Blocks and
which can be made backwards compatible to 2.1 sitemaps and
flowscripts I wouldn't have arguments against it :-)
Yepp.
Is anyone else
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
I think it will be a question of doing it.
:)
If Ugo presents a
functional prototyp of Spring that supports Real Blocks and
which can be made backwards compatible to 2.1 sitemaps and
flowscripts I wouldn't have arguments against it :-)
snip
Ugo,
tests help but don't really buy us anything: have a community that is
strong and diverse enough to do the regression testing for us.
In a commercial world this would sound like :
Have enough customers that are willing to put up with the bugs we could
(might) have caught with better
Jorg Heymans wrote:
snip
Ugo,
tests help but don't really buy us anything: have a community that is
strong and diverse enough to do the regression testing for us.
In a commercial world this would sound like :
Have enough customers that are willing to put up with the bugs we
could (might) have
Il giorno 22/lug/04, alle 01:18, Stefano Mazzocchi ha scritto:
Ugo Cei wrote:
Agreed, but even if we cannot prove that code is correct with unit
tests alone, we can at least hope that - statistically - code that
has 100% test coverage will have less bugs than code that has 10%
test coverage.
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Ugo Cei wrote:
Il giorno 12/lug/04, alle 18:23, Marc Portier ha scritto:
think so too, just needs more wild thinking and somebody doing :-)
Since I'm getting more and more bored with my daytime job, I ended up
doing something:
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
...
Result, I'm -1 on Spring because we can't control it and -0.5 on
Merlin/Fortress/Geronimo because they are other communities with other
interests.
I agree but...
I say we write our stuff and be done with it once and forever.
... if he wants to try Spring, why stop
Carsten == Carsten Ziegeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Carsten Colin Paul Adams wrote:
But this is only a solution when a Source object is what you
want. This is not the case for me. I need this information
from WITHIN a Source object, as I need to pass an absolute
Il giorno 22/lug/04, alle 01:28, Stefano Mazzocchi ha scritto:
I say we write our stuff and be done with it once and forever.
I agree with you on one thing here. Depending on an external community
for our foundations is a BIG risk. But I also want to balance risks
against benefits. Spring is
Il giorno 22/lug/04, alle 03:10, peter royal ha scritto:
have you considered picocontainer at all? i would *LOVE* to see the
core shuffled about. i want to be able to nest the containment of
cocoon's core objects in order to share them between multiple cocoon
instances, and being built upon an
Ugo Cei wrote:
(Note to self: rewrite unit tests so that they don't depend on
BeanFactory).
yes and no:
I've seen myself do both: have tests that go on detail level and just
wire beans themselves in the setup()
but also: have tests that use the beanfactory to do so (using a stupid
base class
Il giorno 22/lug/04, alle 08:30, Reinhard Poetz ha scritto:
I think it will be a question of doing it. If Ugo presents a
functional prototyp of Spring that supports Real Blocks and which can
be made backwards compatible to 2.1 sitemaps and flowscripts I
wouldn't have arguments against it :-)
My
Il giorno 22/lug/04, alle 10:34, Marc Portier ha scritto:
still have to get into your actual code sample though, by the way:
could we arrange having a cvs somewhere?
How about cocoondev.org? Is the migration over? I asked Steven some
time ago about hosting the SpringPetstore block and he askde
I know, that this subject is slightly off-topic for this mail list, but ...
I wrote a how-to document, which will be good (if you agree with me) to be
published on Cocoon web pages (Documentation - HOW-TO section).
I have not found any obvious way, how to post my small contribution.
Nevertheless I
Ugo Cei wrote:
Il giorno 22/lug/04, alle 10:34, Marc Portier ha scritto:
still have to get into your actual code sample though, by the way:
could we arrange having a cvs somewhere?
How about cocoondev.org? Is the migration over? I asked Steven some time
ago about hosting the SpringPetstore
Pavel.Vrecion wrote:
I know, that this subject is slightly off-topic for this mail list, but ...
No! It is right on topic, on either dev or user list.
Bear in mind that most devs also participate on the
user list.
I wrote a how-to document, which will be good (if you agree with me) to be
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Hi,
how can I access the ServiceManager when I only have Request as an entry
point?
Regards,
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no you cannot ... please state what and where you need it for (flow,
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Ralph Goers wrote:
Let's not mix concerns: cocoon has few tests, agreed, but this has
nothing to do with the architecture.
It does in the sense that you can't prove that you haven't broken it.
Avalon is not the reason why people didn't write tests for cocoon. This
is an open source project and a
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Any Action can be re-written as a Matcher in 10-15 seconds (only
exception is this redirect mentioned above... shall we remove
redirector from action interface? ;-) ). Thus, I totally miss the
point why actions should be disallowed.
because
Jorg Heymans wrote:
snip
Ugo,
tests help but don't really buy us anything: have a community that is
strong and diverse enough to do the regression testing for us.
In a commercial world this would sound like :
Have enough customers that are willing to put up with the bugs we could
(might) have
Marc Portier wrote:
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
For sure it doesn't save us energy, we already have that container build.
Cost of building is a fraction of the cost of maintaining?
dude, have you ever tried to change anything in the avalon framework?
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my wrists hurt *very* bad from too much f*g typing about f***ing
fixing f***ing communities that don't have a grip on reality and that
are hurting us.
therefore my oneliner emails, so if you get pissed because you feel I'm
being dismissive, get over it.
now, people want to move from a
Il giorno 22/lug/04, alle 12:20, Stefano Mazzocchi ha scritto:
Avalon is not the reason why people didn't write tests for cocoon.
This is an open source project and a do-ocracy: if you think tests are
important, write them and contribute them. We never said no, go away
with your stupid tests.
Marc Portier wrote:
I've been largely skimreading this list last couple of weeks so maybe
I missed an important update on the svn switch for cocoon?
Yep.
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-devm=109043692326007
Vadim
Il giorno 22/lug/04, alle 12:30, Stefano Mazzocchi ha scritto:
this is all I will say on the subject.
As far as I'm concerned, I'll be more than happy if, at the end of this
discussion, we throw away all the code I have written (which didn't
take me more than a few hours) and decide to do our
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
On which level can we forbid it? Do we have to change the
Action interface or can we forbid redirects of actions that
are used in VPCs only?
We can just pass an exception throwing redirector into an
action that is inside a VPCs; so no need
tests help but don't really buy us anything: have a community that is
strong and diverse enough to do the regression testing for us.
In a commercial world this would sound like :
Have enough customers that are willing to put up with the bugs we
could (might) have caught with better unit-test
this is all I will say on the subject.
Which is a pity, because you sent the first email and not the second.
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=avalon-devm=102448949805295w=2
Matthew
On Jul 21, 2004, at 7:54 PM, Bruno Dumon wrote:
On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 18:23, Gianugo Rabellino wrote:
I'm currently working on a more-than-average sized cforms
applications. We
have quite a few usecases where validation is kind of a PITA,
requiring
quite a few of business logic to be performed.
I need it in a JXPath expression, where the JX context ist created by
cocoon (cform's binding manager), and this context does not contain the
service manager.
Regards,
Jochen
Leszek Gawron [EMAIL PROTECTED]
22.07.2004 12:13
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On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 06:30:48 -0400, Stefano Mazzocchi
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my wrists hurt *very* bad from too much f*g typing about f***ing
fixing f***ing communities that don't have a grip on reality and that
are hurting us.
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:28:57 -0400, Stefano Mazzocchi
[EMAIL
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Upayavira wrote:
Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
Dave Brondsema wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, Dave Brondsema wrote:
We at Forrest are seeing more JCS log messages than we want. I tried
setting up a log4j.properties file to control it, but that didn't
seem to
work.
Jochen Kuhnle wrote:
I need it in a JXPath expression, where the JX context ist created by
cocoon (cform's binding manager), and this context does not contain the
service manager.
are you talking about custom binding? if so you can implement it in
javascript and you do not need a service
Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
If you declare system variable:
org.apache.commons.logging.Log=org.apache.commons.logging.impl.LogKitLogger
commons logging will use LogKit. See web.xml, force-property parameter.
LogKit is set up by CocoonServlet.
Why isn't this a default setting (at least for
Ugo Cei wrote:
Il giorno 22/lug/04, alle 10:34, Marc Portier ha scritto:
still have to get into your actual code sample though, by the way:
could we arrange having a cvs somewhere?
How about cocoondev.org? Is the migration over? I asked Steven some time
ago about hosting the SpringPetstore block
On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 01:27:55PM +0200, Gianugo Rabellino wrote:
On Jul 21, 2004, at 7:54 PM, Bruno Dumon wrote:
Maybe you could refactor some of that code into java classes that you
call from the javascript. Or you can also write the validators directly
in Java (which doesn't require
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
What about a mailing list?
We're having an unpleasant discussion about creating mailing lists on
the community list... ugh
IMO the right thing is to ask a vote for it, and then ask infra to set
it up as per the Cocoon PMC decision.
I don't want to see another
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Ralph Goers wrote:
Let's not mix concerns: cocoon has few tests, agreed, but this has
nothing to do with the architecture.
It does in the sense that you can't prove that you haven't broken it.
Avalon is not the reason why people didn't write tests for cocoon. This
is
Is anybody else recieving -- what I can only assume are -- viruses from
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being posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If they actually are going by via
the mailing list, can mail from this address be blocked?
Thanks,
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quote source=JSR 170 expert group author=David Nuescheler
dear experts,
as you might have already seen the jsr-170-browser at
http://jsr170tools.day.com is now online and downloadable in
its third version (v0.3)
of course the underlying reference implementation is
constantly checked in to the
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Any Action can be re-written as a Matcher in 10-15 seconds (only
exception is this redirect mentioned above... shall we remove
redirector from action interface? ;-) ). Thus, I totally miss the
point why actions should be disallowed.
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
IMO, we really need the context:/ (single slash) we talked
about some time ago, that resolves relatively to the
currently executing sitemap (i.e. the one defining the VPC).
Relative sources (with no protocol) must always be resolved
relative to
Matthew Langham wrote:
this is all I will say on the subject.
Which is a pity, because you sent the first email and not the second.
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=avalon-devm=102448949805295w=2
Matthew
matthew, I can't type!
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Leo Sutic wrote:
Stefano, who has much better things to do to damage his physical and
mental health.
You forgot the than between the do and to, but I guess that just
made the quote somewhat more profound.
no, didn't forget anything
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Dave Brondsema wrote:
Upayavira wrote:
The CLI way would be to add a property tag into the cli.xconf. Now, this
would be a pretty trivial fix to one Cocoon class. Is this what would be
needed?
Sounds like it to me. Can we try it?
Don't have time to do _any_ testing on this (shouldn't
Leszek Gawron wrote:
Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
If you declare system variable:
org.apache.commons.logging.Log=org.apache.commons.logging.impl.LogKitLogger
commons logging will use LogKit. See web.xml, force-property
parameter. LogKit is set up by CocoonServlet.
Why isn't this a default setting
Ugo Cei wrote:
I'll try to reword the manifesto to cover the possibility of building
our own container, as long as it adheres to some basic design principles.
Not completely OT, but does / can / will Fortress support constructor /
setter dependency injection?
Vadim
Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
Ugo Cei wrote:
I'll try to reword the manifesto to cover the possibility of building
our own container, as long as it adheres to some basic design principles.
Not completely OT, but does / can / will Fortress support constructor /
setter dependency injection?
Fortress
Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
Ugo Cei wrote:
I'll try to reword the manifesto to cover the possibility
of building
our own container, as long as it adheres to some basic
design principles.
Not completely OT, but does / can / will Fortress support
constructor / setter dependency
Sylvain Wallez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
snip discussion on what should or should not be allowed in VPCs/snip
So let's recap what's allowed where:
- in virtual generators, transfomers, serializers
(SAX-oriented VPCs):
match, select, act but no redirect. redirect-to and call are
Andrew Thornton wrote:
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the mailing list, can mail from this address be blocked?
yep .. I
Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
Leszek Gawron wrote:
Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
If you declare system variable:
org.apache.commons.logging.Log=org.apache.commons.logging.impl.LogKitLogger
commons logging will use LogKit. See web.xml, force-property
parameter. LogKit is set up by CocoonServlet.
Why
Gianugo Rabellino [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
snipmore discussion on xReporter/snip
I hear you, I'm concerned as well. Let me see if I can make you an
example: some of our forms require that a given requested
operation has
to be performed with some date constraints (i.e.: same day, not
Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
Not completely OT, but does / can / will Fortress support constructor
/ setter dependency injection?
It already supports setter injection through a lifecycle extension.
Then why do we need Spring than. I'd go with
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
So let's recap what's allowed where:
- in virtual generators, transfomers, serializers
(SAX-oriented VPCs):
match, select, act but no redirect. redirect-to and call are
forbidden.
Yepp.
- in virtual readers: everything is allowed.
Is that ok?
What is the
On Jul 22, 2004, at 5:11 PM, Hunsberger, Peter wrote:
Hmm, maybe I should have included what I assumed to be a more-or-less
obvious point in my previous post about Schematron: you can always use
an XSL engine that supports extensions to call your Java functions and
use Schematron as a way to
I have trained SpamBayes to mark them as SPAM.
Andreas
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Andrew Thornton wrote:
Is anybody else recieving -- what I
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
So the question is: is it necessary to expose VPCs as regular
components. Furthermore, although possible, is it legal to
lookup sitemap components from somewhere else than in the
sitemap engine?
I would say, yes. It is possible now and it sometimes makes sense,
e.g.
As soon as I try to use the resolver like this:
path = resolver.resolveURI(.);
or
path = resolver.resolveURI(sitemap.xmap);
I get this error at compile time:
Error: line (36) cannot access org.apache.excalibur.source.SourceResolver
file
I am working on a ExtendedFormManager which groups a form, several
bindings and data models together. The use case is to specify e.g. a form
which initializes from a database model with binding A and upon submit
stores itself into the database model with binding B and additionally
into a
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
therefore my oneliner emails, so if you get pissed because you feel I'm
being dismissive, get over it.
Speaking of one liners I heard this, and it's great:
Build a bridge... and get over it
:)
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Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to
Gianugo Rabellino [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Jul 22, 2004, at 5:11 PM, Hunsberger, Peter wrote:
Hmm, maybe I should have included what I assumed to be a
more-or-less
obvious point in my previous post about Schematron: you can
always use
an XSL engine that supports extensions to
Hello
It's a question of implementation 'philosophy' within Cocoon:
how to use some helper applications from Cocoon;
(there is a world outside Cocoon)
And the detailed use case:
I'm using a lot of XML format -IMS, MPEG-4 XMT, MPEG-21 IDL, SVG,
SMIL...- and Coccon seems to be a great framework to
Hi Andrew,
On 22 Jul 2004, at 14:50, Andrew Thornton wrote:
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Hi,
I am simply trying to create a javascript array in flowscript, Cocoon
2.1.5. The standard javascript syntax doesn't seem to work:
var array = [one,two,three];
Or:
var array = new Array(3);
array[0] = blah;
For me, this throws a:
Tony Collen wrote:
Hey all,
I've noticed that the 'bin' directory doesn't actually get cleaned out
when doing either a 'build clean' or a 'build clean-dist' ... is this
something that should be happening?
Tony
Nevermind, cruft from Eclipse. ;)
Tony
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Upayavira wrote:
Dave Brondsema wrote:
Upayavira wrote:
The CLI way would be to add a property tag into the cli.xconf. Now, this
would be a pretty trivial fix to one Cocoon class. Is this what would be
needed?
Sounds like it to me. Can we try it?
Don't
Hello dev,
mhelper is type InputModuleHelper
This code obtains value from InputModule:
Object value = (Object) mhelper.getAttribute(pobjectModel,
cfg,module,name, null);
It work's but I want to pass 'run-time' Configuration to IM:
DefaultConfiguration cfg = new DefaultConfiguration();
Ok, I did more testing, and this array creation works in normal samples
(cocoon 2.1.5.1). So I did something to my current script that causes
this behavior. Has anyone seen this before? I can't find anything in
the archives about it.
I guess I'll try to see what causes it.
Greg Weinger
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Ok, now I feel stupid. A previous script in our project was importing
java.lang.reflect.Array. :p
List-searchers beware, importing this class will break your javascript!!!
Sorry for the frivolous post.
Greg Weinger wrote:
Ok, I did more testing, and this array creation works in normal samples
Il giorno 22/lug/04, alle 15:17, Nicola Ken Barozzi ha scritto:
As I tried to explain, as a Cocoon committer you should be able to
experiment in a branch. As soon as the SVN conversion is over, you can
create a butterfly branch and all Cocooon committers can work there if
they want to.
Pardon
Jochen Kuhnle wrote:
I am working on a ExtendedFormManager which groups a form, several
bindings and data models together. The use case is to specify e.g. a form
which initializes from a database model with binding A and upon submit
stores itself into the database model with binding B and
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Ugo Cei wrote:
Il giorno 22/lug/04, alle 15:17, Nicola Ken Barozzi ha scritto:
As I tried to explain, as a Cocoon committer you should be able to
experiment in a branch. As soon as the SVN conversion is over, you can
create a butterfly branch and all Cocooon
Ugo Cei wrote:
Il giorno 22/lug/04, alle 15:17, Nicola Ken Barozzi ha scritto:
As I tried to explain, as a Cocoon committer you should be able to
experiment in a branch. As soon as the SVN conversion is over, you can
create a butterfly branch and all Cocooon committers can work there if
they
before people get scared, here is my pov on butterfly:
I like action.
Ugo can feel free to do and show us whatever he wants in his private
directory in SVN and to talk about it (just like it happened for many
other people that wondered off on their own)
My only concern is: careful about
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Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
snip/
Result, I'm -1 on Spring because we can't control it and -0.5 on
Merlin/Fortress/Geronimo because they are other communities with other
interests.
I say we write our stuff and be done with it once and forever.
My opinion is that what refrains us to move is that
Il giorno 22/lug/04, alle 21:33, Stefano Mazzocchi ha scritto:
Ugo can feel free to do and show us whatever he wants in his private
directory in SVN and to talk about it (just like it happened for many
other people that wondered off on their own)
I think I need to read something about SVN ASAP
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Joerg Heinicke joerg.heinicke at gmx.de writes:
A question, though: how have you found all this? Do you have special
settings on your IDE (Eclipse?)
Yes, Eclipse shows them and I can fix them easily mostly using Quick
Fix. I can post the useful compiler settings on Tuesday.
A bit
Nicola Ken Barozzi dijo:
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
...
Result, I'm -1 on Spring because we can't control it and -0.5 on
Merlin/Fortress/Geronimo because they are other communities with other
interests.
I agree but...
I say we write our stuff and be done with it once and forever.
... if
Upayavira dijo:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
What about a mailing list?
We're having an unpleasant discussion about creating mailing lists on
the community list... ugh
IMO the right thing is to ask a vote for it, and then ask infra to set
it up as per the Cocoon PMC decision.
I don't
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Pavel.Vrecion wrote:
Thanx for help.
It is clear, now.
It took me some time to understand that in Bugzilla attachments can be added
only after bug is submitted, and not as a part of submitting bug process.
Steps for posting a new documentation are a little bit complex (for the
first time),
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