Re: The Butterfly Manifesto (was Re: [RT] Spring+JMX == Real Blocks?)

Ugo, tests help but don't really buy us anything: have a community that is strong and diverse enough to do the regression testing for us. In a commercial world this would sound like : "Have enough customers that are willing to put up with the bugs we could (might) have caught with better unit-te

Re: The Butterfly Manifesto (was Re: [RT] Spring+JMX == Real Blocks?)

Jorg Heymans wrote: Ugo, tests help but don't really buy us anything: have a community that is strong and diverse enough to do the regression testing for us. In a commercial world this would sound like : "Have enough customers that are willing to put up with the bugs we could (might) have caugh

Tests (was Re: The Butterfly Manifesto (was Re: [RT] Spring+JMX == Real Blocks?))

Il giorno 22/lug/04, alle 01:18, Stefano Mazzocchi ha scritto: Ugo Cei wrote: Agreed, but even if we cannot prove that code is correct with unit tests alone, we can at least hope that - statistically - code that has 100% test coverage will have less bugs than code that has 10% test coverage. Unf

Re: The Butterfly Manifesto (was Re: [RT] Spring+JMX == Real Blocks?)

Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Ugo Cei wrote: Il giorno 12/lug/04, alle 18:23, Marc Portier ha scritto: think so too, just needs more wild thinking and somebody doing :-) Since I'm getting more and more bored with my daytime job, I ended up doing something: http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/ButterflyMani

Re: The Butterfly Manifesto (was Re: [RT] Spring+JMX == Real Blocks?)

Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: ... Result, I'm -1 on Spring because we can't control it and -0.5 on Merlin/Fortress/Geronimo because they are other communities with other interests. I agree but... I say we write our stuff and be done with it once and forever. ... if he wants to try Spring, why stop him

Re: current sitemap directory path

> "Carsten" == Carsten Ziegeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Carsten> Colin Paul Adams wrote: >> But this is only a solution when a Source object is what you >> want. This is not the case for me. I need this information >> from WITHIN a Source object, as I need to pass an abso

Re: The Butterfly Manifesto (was Re: [RT] Spring+JMX == Real Blocks?)

Il giorno 22/lug/04, alle 01:28, Stefano Mazzocchi ha scritto: I say we write our stuff and be done with it once and forever. I agree with you on one thing here. Depending on an external community for our foundations is a BIG risk. But I also want to balance risks against benefits. Spring is acti

Re: The Butterfly Manifesto (was Re: [RT] Spring+JMX == Real Blocks?)

Il giorno 22/lug/04, alle 03:10, peter royal ha scritto: have you considered picocontainer at all? i would *LOVE* to see the core shuffled about. i want to be able to nest the containment of cocoon's core objects in order to share them between multiple cocoon instances, and being built upon an o

[butterfly] spring dependant tests (was Re: The Butterfly Manifesto (was Re: [RT] Spring+JMX == Real Blocks?))

Ugo Cei wrote: (Note to self: rewrite unit tests so that they don't depend on BeanFactory). yes and no: I've seen myself do both: have tests that go on detail level and just wire beans themselves in the setup() but also: have tests that use the beanfactory to do so (using a stupid base class t

Re: The Butterfly Manifesto (was Re: [RT] Spring+JMX == Real Blocks?)

Il giorno 22/lug/04, alle 08:30, Reinhard Poetz ha scritto: I think it will be a question of doing it. If Ugo presents a functional prototyp of Spring that supports Real Blocks and which can be made backwards compatible to 2.1 sitemaps and flowscripts I wouldn't have arguments against it :-) My

Re: [butterfly] spring dependant tests (was Re: The Butterfly Manifesto (was Re: [RT] Spring+JMX == Real Blocks?))

Il giorno 22/lug/04, alle 10:34, Marc Portier ha scritto: still have to get into your actual code sample though, by the way: could we arrange having a cvs somewhere? How about cocoondev.org? Is the migration over? I asked Steven some time ago about hosting the SpringPetstore block and he askde me

How to document - need help with publishing

I know, that this subject is slightly off-topic for this mail list, but ... I wrote a how-to document, which will be good (if you agree with me) to be published on Cocoon web pages (Documentation - HOW-TO section). I have not found any obvious way, how to post my small contribution. Nevertheless I

Re: [butterfly] spring dependant tests (was Re: The Butterfly Manifesto (was Re: [RT] Spring+JMX == Real Blocks?))

Ugo Cei wrote: Il giorno 22/lug/04, alle 10:34, Marc Portier ha scritto: still have to get into your actual code sample though, by the way: could we arrange having a cvs somewhere? How about cocoondev.org? Is the migration over? I asked Steven some time ago about hosting the SpringPetstore bloc

Re: How to document - need help with publishing

Pavel.Vrecion wrote: > I know, that this subject is slightly off-topic for this mail list, but ... No! It is right on topic, on either dev or user list. Bear in mind that most devs also participate on the user list. > I wrote a how-to document, which will be good (if you agree with me) to be > p

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Getting the ServiceManager from Request?

Hi, how can I access the ServiceManager when I only have Request as an entry point? Regards, Jochen

Re: Getting the ServiceManager from Request?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, how can I access the ServiceManager when I only have Request as an entry point? Regards, Jochen no you cannot ... please state what and where you need it for (flow, actions, components) -- Leszek Gawron [EMAIL PROTECTED] Project

Re: The Butterfly Manifesto (was Re: [RT] Spring+JMX == Real Blocks?)

Ralph Goers wrote: Let's not mix concerns: cocoon has few tests, agreed, but this has nothing to do with the architecture. It does in the sense that you can't prove that you haven't "broken" it. Avalon is not the reason why people didn't write tests for cocoon. This is an open source project and

Re: [RT] Virtual Sitemap Components

Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Any Action can be re-written as a Matcher in 10-15 seconds (only exception is this redirect mentioned above... shall we remove redirector from action interface? ;-) ). Thus, I totally miss the point why actions should be disallowed. because actio

Re: The Butterfly Manifesto (was Re: [RT] Spring+JMX == Real Blocks?)

Jorg Heymans wrote: Ugo, tests help but don't really buy us anything: have a community that is strong and diverse enough to do the regression testing for us. In a commercial world this would sound like : "Have enough customers that are willing to put up with the bugs we could (might) have caugh

Re: The Butterfly Manifesto (was Re: [RT] Spring+JMX == Real Blocks?)

Marc Portier wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: For sure it doesn't save us energy, we already have that container build. Cost of building is a fraction of the cost of maintaining? dude, have you ever tried to change anything in the avalon framework? -- Stefano. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptog

[fyi] one liners from me

my wrists hurt *very* bad from too much f*g typing about f***ing fixing f***ing communities that don't have a grip on reality and that are hurting us. therefore my oneliner emails, so if you get pissed because you feel I'm being dismissive, get over it. now, people want to move from a comm

Re: The Butterfly Manifesto (was Re: [RT] Spring+JMX == Real Blocks?)

Il giorno 22/lug/04, alle 12:20, Stefano Mazzocchi ha scritto: Avalon is not the reason why people didn't write tests for cocoon. This is an open source project and a do-ocracy: if you think tests are important, write them and contribute them. We never said "no, go away with your stupid tests".

Re: [butterfly] spring dependant tests (was Re: The Butterfly Manifesto (was Re: [RT] Spring+JMX == Real Blocks?))

Marc Portier wrote: I've been largely skimreading this list last couple of weeks so maybe I missed an important update on the svn switch for cocoon? Yep. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=109043692326007 Vadim

RE: How to document - need help with publishing

Thanx for help. It is clear, now. It took me some time to understand that in Bugzilla attachments can be added only after bug is submitted, and not as a part of submitting bug process. Steps for posting a new documentation are a little bit complex (for the first time), but on the other hand they a

Re: [fyi] one liners from me

Il giorno 22/lug/04, alle 12:30, Stefano Mazzocchi ha scritto: this is all I will say on the subject. As far as I'm concerned, I'll be more than happy if, at the end of this discussion, we throw away all the code I have written (which didn't take me more than a few hours) and decide to do our own

Re: [RT] Virtual Sitemap Components

Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Reinhard Poetz wrote: On which level can we forbid it? Do we have to change the Action interface or can we forbid redirects of actions that are used in VPCs only? We can just pass an "exception throwing redirector" into an action that is inside a VPCs; so no need

Re: The Butterfly Manifesto (was Re: [RT] Spring+JMX == Real Blocks?)

tests help but don't really buy us anything: have a community that is strong and diverse enough to do the regression testing for us. In a commercial world this would sound like : "Have enough customers that are willing to put up with the bugs we could (might) have caught with better unit-test co

RE: [fyi] one liners from me

> > this is all I will say on the subject. > Which is a pity, because you sent the first email and not the second. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=avalon-dev&m=102448949805295&w=2 Matthew

Re: [cforms] xreporter expressions on (Avalon) steroids

On Jul 21, 2004, at 7:54 PM, Bruno Dumon wrote: On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 18:23, Gianugo Rabellino wrote: I'm currently working on a more-than-average sized cforms applications. We have quite a few usecases where validation is kind of a PITA, requiring quite a few of business logic to be performed. N

Re: Getting the ServiceManager from Request?

I need it in a JXPath expression, where the JX context ist created by cocoon (cform's binding manager), and this context does not contain the service manager. Regards, Jochen Leszek Gawron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 22.07.2004 12:13 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Su

Re: [fyi] one liners from me

On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 06:30:48 -0400, Stefano Mazzocchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > my wrists hurt *very* bad from too much f*g typing about f***ing > fixing f***ing communities that don't have a grip on reality and that > are hurting us. On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:28:57 -0400, Stefano Mazzocchi <[

Re: JCS logging

On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Upayavira wrote: > Vadim Gritsenko wrote: > > > Dave Brondsema wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, Dave Brondsema wrote: > >> > >> > >>> We at Forrest are seeing more JCS log messages than we want. I tried > >>> setting up a log4j.properties file to control it, but that didn

Re: Getting the ServiceManager from Request?

Jochen Kuhnle wrote: I need it in a JXPath expression, where the JX context ist created by cocoon (cform's binding manager), and this context does not contain the service manager. are you talking about custom binding? if so you can implement it in javascript and you do not need a service manager

Re: JCS logging

Vadim Gritsenko wrote: If you declare system variable: org.apache.commons.logging.Log=org.apache.commons.logging.impl.LogKitLogger commons logging will use LogKit. See web.xml, force-property parameter. LogKit is set up by CocoonServlet. Why isn't this a default setting (at least for cocoon.b

Re: [butterfly] spring dependant tests (was Re: The Butterfly Manifesto (was Re: [RT] Spring+JMX == Real Blocks?))

Ugo Cei wrote: Il giorno 22/lug/04, alle 10:34, Marc Portier ha scritto: still have to get into your actual code sample though, by the way: could we arrange having a cvs somewhere? How about cocoondev.org? Is the migration over? I asked Steven some time ago about hosting the SpringPetstore block

Re: [cforms] xreporter expressions on (Avalon) steroids

On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 01:27:55PM +0200, Gianugo Rabellino wrote: > On Jul 21, 2004, at 7:54 PM, Bruno Dumon wrote: > >Maybe you could refactor some of that code into java classes that you > >call from the javascript. Or you can also write the validators directly > >in Java (which doesn't require

Re: [butterfly] spring dependant tests (was Re: The Butterfly Manifesto (was Re: [RT] Spring+JMX == Real Blocks?))

Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: What about a mailing list? We're having an unpleasant discussion about creating mailing lists on the community list... ugh IMO the right thing is to ask a vote for it, and then ask infra to set it up as per the Cocoon PMC decision. I don't want to see another mailing

Re: The Butterfly Manifesto (was Re: [RT] Spring+JMX == Real Blocks?)

Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Ralph Goers wrote: Let's not mix concerns: cocoon has few tests, agreed, but this has nothing to do with the architecture. It does in the sense that you can't prove that you haven't "broken" it. Avalon is not the reason why people didn't write tests for cocoon. This is

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[FYI] JSR 170-based webdav repository

dear experts, as you might have already seen the jsr-170-browser at http://jsr170tools.day.com is now online and downloadable in its third version (v0.3) of course the underlying reference implementation is constantly checked in to the jakarta cvs. that CVS is jakarta-slide/proposals/jcrri it now

Re: [RT] Virtual Sitemap Components

Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Any Action can be re-written as a Matcher in 10-15 seconds (only exception is this redirect mentioned above... shall we remove redirector from action interface? ;-) ). Thus, I totally miss the point why actions should be disallowed. beca

Re: Source Resolving in Virtual Pipeline Components (was Re: [RT] VirtualSitemap Components)

Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Sylvain Wallez wrote: IMO, we really need the "context:/" (single slash) we talked about some time ago, that resolves relatively to the currently executing sitemap (i.e. the one defining the VPC). Relative sources (with no protocol) must always be resolved relative to

Re: [fyi] one liners from me

Matthew Langham wrote: this is all I will say on the subject. Which is a pity, because you sent the first email and not the second. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=avalon-dev&m=102448949805295&w=2 Matthew matthew, I can't type! -- Stefano. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: [fyi] one liners from me

Leo Sutic wrote: Stefano, who has much better things to do to damage his physical and mental health. You forgot the "than" between the "do" and "to", but I guess that just made the quote somewhat more profound. no, didn't forget anything -- Stefano. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Sig

Re: JCS logging

Dave Brondsema wrote: Upayavira wrote: The CLI way would be to add a property tag into the cli.xconf. Now, this would be a pretty trivial fix to one Cocoon class. Is this what would be needed? Sounds like it to me. Can we try it? Don't have time to do _any_ testing on this (shouldn't reall

Re: JCS logging

Leszek Gawron wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: If you declare system variable: org.apache.commons.logging.Log=org.apache.commons.logging.impl.LogKitLogger commons logging will use LogKit. See web.xml, force-property parameter. LogKit is set up by CocoonServlet. Why isn't this a default setting

Re: [fyi] one liners from me

Ugo Cei wrote: I'll try to reword the manifesto to cover the possibility of building our own container, as long as it adheres to some basic design principles. Not completely OT, but does / can / will Fortress support constructor / setter dependency injection? Vadim

Re: [fyi] one liners from me

Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Ugo Cei wrote: I'll try to reword the manifesto to cover the possibility of building our own container, as long as it adheres to some basic design principles. Not completely OT, but does / can / will Fortress support constructor / setter dependency injection? Fortress *can

RE: [fyi] one liners from me

Vadim Gritsenko wrote: > > Ugo Cei wrote: > > > I'll try to reword the manifesto to cover the possibility > of building > > our own container, as long as it adheres to some basic > design principles. > > > Not completely OT, but does / can / will Fortress support > constructor / setter de

RE: [RT] Virtual Sitemap Components

Sylvain Wallez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: discussion on what should or should not be allowed in VPCs > So let's recap what's allowed where: > - in virtual generators, transfomers, serializers > (SAX-oriented VPCs): > match, select, act but no redirect. redirect-to and call are > forbidden.

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Re: JCS logging

Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Leszek Gawron wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: If you declare system variable: org.apache.commons.logging.Log=org.apache.commons.logging.impl.LogKitLogger commons logging will use LogKit. See web.xml, force-property parameter. LogKit is set up by CocoonServlet. Why isn't

RE: [cforms] xreporter expressions on (Avalon) steroids

Gianugo Rabellino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: more discussion on xReporter > > I hear you, I'm concerned as well. Let me see if I can make you an > example: some of our forms require that a given requested > operation has > to be performed with some date constraints (i.e.: "same day", "not >

Re: [fyi] one liners from me

Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Not completely OT, but does / can / will Fortress support constructor / setter dependency injection? It already supports setter injection through a lifecycle extension. Then why do we need Spring than. I'd go with Fortress (provided that f

Re: [fyi] one liners from me

Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Not completely OT, but does / can / will Fortress support constructor / setter dependency injection? It already supports setter injection through a lifecycle extension. Then why do we need Spring than. I'd go with Fortr

RE: [RT] Virtual Sitemap Components

Sylvain Wallez wrote: > So let's recap what's allowed where: > - in virtual generators, transfomers, serializers > (SAX-oriented VPCs): > match, select, act but no redirect. redirect-to and call are > forbidden. Yepp. > - in virtual readers: everything is allowed. > > Is that ok? > What is t

Re: [cforms] xreporter expressions on (Avalon) steroids

On Jul 22, 2004, at 5:11 PM, Hunsberger, Peter wrote: Hmm, maybe I should have included what I assumed to be a more-or-less obvious point in my previous post about Schematron: you can always use an XSL engine that supports extensions to call your Java functions and use Schematron as a way to compos

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RE: [RT] Virtual Sitemap Components

Sylvain Wallez wrote: > So the question is: is it necessary to expose VPCs as regular > components. Furthermore, although possible, is it "legal" to > lookup sitemap components from somewhere else than in the > sitemap engine? > I would say, yes. It is possible now and it sometimes makes sense

Re: current sitemap directory path

As soon as I try to use the resolver like this: path = resolver.resolveURI("."); or path = resolver.resolveURI("sitemap.xmap"); I get this error at compile time: " Error: line (36) cannot access org.apache.excalibur.source.SourceResolver file org\apache\excalibu

Re: Getting the ServiceManager from Request?

I am working on a "ExtendedFormManager" which groups a form, several bindings and data models together. The use case is to specify e.g. a form which initializes from a "database model" with binding A and upon submit stores itself into the "database model" with binding B and additionally into a

Re: [fyi] one liners from me

Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: therefore my oneliner emails, so if you get pissed because you feel I'm being dismissive, get over it. Speaking of one liners I heard this, and it's great: "Build a bridge... and get over it" :) -- "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to b

RE: [cforms] xreporter expressions on (Avalon) steroids

Gianugo Rabellino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Jul 22, 2004, at 5:11 PM, Hunsberger, Peter wrote: > > Hmm, maybe I should have included what I assumed to be a > more-or-less > > obvious point in my previous post about Schematron: you can > always use > > an XSL engine that supports e

Cocoon use case

Hello It's a question of implementation 'philosophy' within Cocoon: how to use some helper applications from Cocoon; (there is a world outside Cocoon) And the detailed use case: I'm using a lot of XML format -IMS, MPEG-4 XMT, MPEG-21 IDL, SVG, SMIL...- and Coccon seems to be a great framework to p

Re: spam/viruses from andrew@luminas.co.uk

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flowscript array question

Hi, I am simply trying to create a javascript array in flowscript, Cocoon 2.1.5. The standard javascript syntax doesn't seem to work: var array = ["one","two","three"]; Or: var array = new Array(3); array[0] = "blah"; For me, this throws a: ---

'build clean' not really cleaning?

Hey all, I've noticed that the 'bin' directory doesn't actually get cleaned out when doing either a 'build clean' or a 'build clean-dist' ... is this something that should be happening? Tony

Re: 'build clean' not really cleaning?

Tony Collen wrote: Hey all, I've noticed that the 'bin' directory doesn't actually get cleaned out when doing either a 'build clean' or a 'build clean-dist' ... is this something that should be happening? Tony Nevermind, cruft from Eclipse. ;) Tony

Re: JCS logging

On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Upayavira wrote: > Dave Brondsema wrote: > > > Upayavira wrote: > > > >>The CLI way would be to add a property tag into the cli.xconf. Now, this > >>would be a pretty trivial fix to one Cocoon class. Is this what would be > >>needed? > >> > >> > >Sounds like it to me. Can we

InputModule and creating Configuration object for it

Hello dev, mhelper is type InputModuleHelper This code obtains value from InputModule: Object value = (Object) mhelper.getAttribute(pobjectModel, cfg,module,name, null); It work's but I want to pass 'run-time' Configuration to IM: DefaultConfiguration cfg = new DefaultConfiguration(""); Defaul

Re: flowscript array question

Ok, I did more testing, and this array creation works in normal samples (cocoon 2.1.5.1). So I did something to my current script that causes this behavior. Has anyone seen this before? I can't find anything in the archives about it. I guess I'll try to see what causes it. Greg Weinger wrote

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Re: flowscript array question

Ok, now I feel stupid. A previous script in our project was importing java.lang.reflect.Array. :p List-searchers beware, importing this class will break your javascript!!! Sorry for the frivolous post. Greg Weinger wrote: Ok, I did more testing, and this array creation works in normal samples

Re: [butterfly] spring dependant tests (was Re: The Butterfly Manifesto (was Re: [RT] Spring+JMX == Real Blocks?))

Il giorno 22/lug/04, alle 15:17, Nicola Ken Barozzi ha scritto: As I tried to explain, as a Cocoon committer you should be able to experiment in a branch. As soon as the SVN conversion is over, you can create a butterfly branch and all Cocooon committers can work there if they want to. Pardon my

Re: Getting the ServiceManager from Request?

Jochen Kuhnle wrote: I am working on a "ExtendedFormManager" which groups a form, several bindings and data models together. The use case is to specify e.g. a form which initializes from a "database model" with binding A and upon submit stores itself into the "database model" with binding B and

Re: [butterfly] spring dependant tests (was Re: The Butterfly Manifesto (was Re: [RT] Spring+JMX == Real Blocks?))

On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Ugo Cei wrote: > Il giorno 22/lug/04, alle 15:17, Nicola Ken Barozzi ha scritto: > > > As I tried to explain, as a Cocoon committer you should be able to > > experiment in a branch. As soon as the SVN conversion is over, you can > > create a butterfly branch and all Cocooon co

Re: [butterfly] spring dependant tests (was Re: The Butterfly Manifesto (was Re: [RT] Spring+JMX == Real Blocks?))

Ugo Cei wrote: Il giorno 22/lug/04, alle 15:17, Nicola Ken Barozzi ha scritto: As I tried to explain, as a Cocoon committer you should be able to experiment in a branch. As soon as the SVN conversion is over, you can create a butterfly branch and all Cocooon committers can work there if they wan

[brief] my pov

before people get scared, here is my pov on butterfly: I like action. Ugo can feel free to do and show us whatever he wants in his private directory in SVN and to talk about it (just like it happened for many other people that wondered off on their own) My only concern is: careful about building

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Re: The Butterfly Manifesto (was Re: [RT] Spring+JMX == Real Blocks?)

Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Result, I'm -1 on Spring because we can't control it and -0.5 on Merlin/Fortress/Geronimo because they are other communities with other interests. I say we write our stuff and be done with it once and forever. My opinion is that what refrains us to move is that the con

Re: [brief] my pov

Il giorno 22/lug/04, alle 21:33, Stefano Mazzocchi ha scritto: Ugo can feel free to do and show us whatever he wants in his private directory in SVN and to talk about it (just like it happened for many other people that wondered off on their own) I think I need to read something about SVN ASAP :-

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 30253] - [PATCH] new docu: How to create XML hierarchical structure using ESQL nested queries

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Eclipse compiler settings (was: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/pipeline/impl CachingPointProcessingPipeline.java)

Joerg Heinicke gmx.de> writes: > > A question, though: how have you found all this? Do you have special > > settings on your IDE (Eclipse?) > > Yes, Eclipse shows them and I can fix them easily mostly using "Quick > Fix". I can post the useful compiler settings on Tuesday. A bit later, but he

Re: The Butterfly Manifesto (was Re: [RT] Spring+JMX == Real Blocks?)

Nicola Ken Barozzi dijo: > Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > ... >> Result, I'm -1 on Spring because we can't control it and -0.5 on >> Merlin/Fortress/Geronimo because they are other communities with other >> interests. > > I agree but... > >> I say we write our stuff and be done with it once and forever

Re: [butterfly] spring dependant tests (was Re: The Butterfly Manifesto (was Re: [RT] Spring+JMX == Real Blocks?))

Upayavira dijo: > Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > >> >>> What about a mailing list? >> >> >> We're having an unpleasant discussion about creating mailing lists on >> the community list... ugh >> >> IMO the right thing is to ask a vote for it, and then ask infra to set >> it up as per the Cocoon PMC dec

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 30280] New: - the documentation about contribution needs clarification

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RE: How to document - need help with publishing

Pavel.Vrecion wrote: > Thanx for help. > It is clear, now. > > It took me some time to understand that in Bugzilla attachments can be added > only after bug is submitted, and not as a part of submitting bug process. > Steps for posting a new documentation are a little bit complex (for the > first

[Bug] tools\bin\appendcp.bat is missing

Hi I just updated from CVS and it seems that tools\bin\appendcp.bat is now missing which creates some error messages during build (on windows of course). Is this file missing or has the script to be updated? Carsten