bpa wrote:
>
>
> I think consolidating info from a number of different sources could
> result in many duplicates as returned station names or URLs for the same
> station may not be entered exactly the same (e.g. Irish national
> broadcaster RTE vs RTÉ )
If I might chime in with some thoughts~
mherger wrote:
> Anybody ever looked into https://www.radio-browser.info/
> (https://api.radio-browser.info/)?
I looked at it a few years ago and then I found the tagging to be very
uneven and some categories to be very patchy.
It may have improved in the meantime.
I think consolidating info f
mherger wrote:
> > This is why I suggested a few months ago that It would help if LMS
> > allowed more than one provider of radio stations search/browse
> function.
>
> I never thought of fully replacing the Radio menu implementation. But it
>
> could actually make sense. Would you imagine an
mherger wrote:
> Anybody ever looked into https://www.radio-browser.info/
> (https://api.radio-browser.info/)?
That looks like a very interesting resource indeed ...
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I've just disabled the default "Radio" plugin and enabled bpa's
"Radio.Net" plugin instead. Countries -> All -> France results in over
60 pages of radio stations, which is much more like what I was
expecting. At the moment I'm getting used to the change of interface,
but my initial feeling is tha
Anybody ever looked into https://www.radio-browser.info/
(https://api.radio-browser.info/)?
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This is why I suggested a few months ago that It would help if LMS
allowed more than one provider of radio stations search/browse function.
I never thought of fully replacing the Radio menu implementation. But it
could actually make sense. Would you imagine an all different menu, or
rather a s
Since it is the MySqueezebox server (which in the past weren't in the
UK) that makes the requests to Tune-in - I wonder how does Tune-in know
the user is in the UK ?
Most services require/accept the "x-forwarded-for" header
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Forwarded-For) to know about the actua
Didn't think it was as bad as not even showing "France".
Since it is the MySqueezebox server (which in the past weren't in the
UK) that makes the requests to Tune-in - I wonder how does Tune-in know
the user is in the UK ?
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This is why I suggested a few months ago that It would help if LMS
allowed more than one provider of radio stations search/browse function.
Paul Webster
author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc),
planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc
austral
bpa wrote:
> Something wrong in your setup.
> I just checked Radio Menu>World>Europe>France - I then get 69 cities -
> each of which have many entries.(e.g. Paris has 99 entries)
>
> Are you signed into mysqueezebox.com ?You aren't in the UK though. I don't
> see France. TuneIn is not worth
u
SixedUp wrote:
> I did. No option to select "France", unfortunately. Its as though there
> are no stations being reported for France. But, it seems it may be that
> as I'm in the UK, its just that TuneIn are not supplying that data
> anymore; keep reading!
>
Something wrong in your setup.
I ju
Thanks everyone - I think you have identified the problem, and some
solutions for me to try:
mherger wrote:
> How are you navigating? Would searching by name find French speaking
> stations (eg. "couleur 3")? What country are you living in?
It doesn't seem to make any difference. It's as thoug
If you are in UK then this could explain your problems ... TuneIn has
significantly reduced the number of stations that they make available to
UK listeners following a court case.
bpa's RadioNet plugin will give you thousands of stations from around
the world.
Paul Webster
author of \"now play
SixedUp wrote:
> I've not used the radio plugin in a long time, but I'm currently
> learning French, and I remembered that it used to provide a huge number
> of radio stations from all over the world. But when I looked today there
> was almost nothing; just a handful of stations in 3 or 4 Englis
How are you navigating? Would searching by name find French speaking
stations (eg. "couleur 3")? What country are you living in?
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verycd wrote:
> Thanks. Posted on third-party software.It isn't third party software though.
> It is more likely to be LMS.
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slartibartfast wrote:
> I would start a new thread.
> I have seen similar but mostly when playing a playlist containing local
> tracks mixed with Spotify tracks. If my hard drive sleeps during a
> Spotify track then generally the following track shows the artwork and
> track info of the previous
verycd wrote:
> I have to repost this question. Please let me know if I should start a
> new thread somewhere else to get attention from some developers. The LMS
> material skin app and my Touch player display the information and cover
> art of the previous track, not the current one. I did a fe
I have to repost this question. Please let me know if I should start a
new thread somewhere else to get attention from some developers. The LMS
material skin app and my Touch player display the information and cover
art of the previous track, not the current one. I did a few experiements
and foun
verycd wrote:
> Oh I see. I saw one rarely-used 3B+ called 'Abox'
> (https://the-gadgeteer.com/2018/10/05/abox-raspberry-pi-3b-starter-kit-review/)
> (16G version) for 50 CAD online, not cheap. The RAM size is small for
> scanning large library. One need to download on another machine and
> tra
slartibartfast wrote:
> You don't need to worry about the player specific settings when using
> Material Skin, just make sure settings/interface/My Music is correct.
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
Not sure what I did wrong but the music folder disappeared again. Just
set it in setti
Redrum wrote:
> Maybe my response was a bit misleading. I mentioned that I am no pi
> hardware expert, and my comments were based largely on reading the heat
> aspect of the 4 vs 3b+ discussed in the forum -> good case, or heat sink
> it, not an issue.
>
> My observation is not scientific at al
verycd wrote:
> You mentioned there was no noticeable difference in heat and performance
> between Pi3B+ and Pi4. Do the two units of yours have the same amount of
> RAM? I assume that may affect performance somehow? What is the optimal
> amount of RAM needed for LMS?
Maybe my response was a bi
verycd wrote:
> I will make sure I go to each player and set it. Just wondering if it is
> more useful to make browse modes library-specific rather than
> player-specific.You don't need to worry about the player specific settings
> when using
Material Skin, just make sure settings/interface/My
cpd73 wrote:
> Yes, and no. It ignores the selection of which modes are enabled - as
> these are per-player, and Material covers all players. But, any new
> modes added, or modes removed, will be reflected in Material's
> selection.
>
> (This is one of my pet hates about other control points -
verycd wrote:
> You mentioned there was no noticeable difference in heat and performance
> between Pi3B+ and Pi4. Do the two units of yours have the same amount of
> RAM? I assume that may affect performance somehow? What is the optimal
> amount of RAM needed for LMS?
A Pi4 with a decent case i
slartibartfast wrote:
> I am pretty sure Material Skin ignores "Additional Browse Modes".
Yes, and no. It ignores the selection of which modes are enabled - as
these are per-player, and Material covers all players. But, any new
modes added, or modes removed, will be reflected in Material's
sele
verycd wrote:
> How come my LMS version is : 8.1.1 - 1610364019 while yours is 8.2.0?
> The new Touch firmware I just got is 8.0.1r-16855.
8.0.1r-16855 is the latest Touch firmware regardless of LMS version.
LMS 8.2 is the development branch.
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/index.php
kidstypike wrote:
> Agree with Redrum, just browsing to "My Music" should get you connected
> back to LMS.
>
> Regarding firmware, did you check the box at LMS > Settings > Advanced
> tab > "Community firmware for touch/radio/controller"?
>
> 35342
How come my LMS version is : 8.1.1 - 1610364
Redrum wrote:
> You need to use what works for you. Whatever you are most comfortable
> with. It seems your preference is toward your solution, so that's great!
> I think we just offered you an alternative that allot of us use.
>
> I am not a pi hardware expert, I just use 'em, but many here ar
verycd wrote:
> Yes, I checked the "community firmware" under advanced. Can't wait to
> experience the newest firmware.
>
> Yes, the LMS switch is under my music, which I didn't know. Thank you.
>
> I checked the music folder under player>extra settings and
> interface>extra settings last nigh
Yes, I checked the "community firmware" under advanced. Can't wait to
experience the newest firmware.
Yes, the LMS switch is under my music, which I didn't know. Thank you.
I checked the music folder under player>extra settings and
interface>extra settings last night but the music folder option
verycd wrote:
> Thank you, kidstypike, startibartfast, d6jg and redrum! Now I can see
> "music folder" which is the only way I can navigate through my library.
> Not sure why but "album" shows one track as an album. Folder groups
> items together.
>
> This app could move the Touch from mysqueez
verycd wrote:
> Thank you, kidstypike, startibartfast, d6jg and redrum! Now I can see
> "music folder" which is the only way I can navigate through my library.
> Not sure why but "album" shows one track as an album. Folder groups
> items together.
>
> This app could move the Touch from mysqueez
verycd wrote:
> On the Touch itself, I can shift from LMS to mysqueezebox.com if I
> reboot the unit but once it is shifted to mysqueezebox.com, the LMS
> option disappeared. It is not under network, not under other libraries.
> Nowhere to be found unless I move it to LMS with the online interfa
Thank you, kidstypike, startibartfast, d6jg and redrum! Now I can see
"music folder" which is the only way I can navigate through my library.
Not sure why but "album" shows one track as an album. Folder groups
items together.
This app could move the Touch from mysqueezebox.com back to LMS, which
And mine?
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?114874-Radio-stations-don-t-get-updated&p=1028664&viewfull=1#post1028664
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*Lou
verycd wrote:
> It's supposed to be under "my music" but it is not. Not on the web
> interface, nor on the mobile app.
>
> 35338Did you see my post directly before yours?
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=1028671
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verycd wrote:
> It's supposed to be under "my music" but it is not. Not on the web
> interface, nor on the mobile app.
>
>
Do you have the LMS "Additional Browse Modes" plugin installed?
*Server - LMS 8.2.0 *Pi4B 4GB/Argon one case/pCP 8.0.0 - 75K library,
playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntf
Just to report on WOL.
After trying all possible combinations of settings, suspected it was
router ports not open but couldn't open them on the loggon page. Got 9
and 9000 opened by calling internet service provider. Both work on
different Android WOL apps but not on the Squeezer app somehow. D
d6jg wrote:
> Music Folder should be under My Music
It's supposed to be under "my music" but it is not. Not on the web
interface, nor on the mobile app.
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verycd wrote:
> Thank you for directing me to F-droid and LMS app. It indeed works
> beautifully.
>
> 1) Is there a way to make material skin show "music folder", which is
> available in default and classic? Both the webpage and the app lack
> "music folder" directory.
> 2) The App occasionall
d6jg wrote:
> If your musical taste is rock, pop and or jazz as opposed to classical
> then another plugin (that works brilliantly with Material) is Music &
> Artist Information. After install youll find an (i) at top right ish in
> Material
>
> It does also work with classical but not as accur
If your musical taste is rock, pop and or jazz as opposed to classical
then another plugin (that works brilliantly with Material) is Music &
Artist Information. After install youll find an (i) at top right ish in
Material
It does also work with classical but not as accurate.
VB2.4[/B] STORAGE
d6jg wrote:
> Music Folder should be under My Music
also, in the app, there are "view select" at the bottom - "browse" is
where you find my music, "now playing" and "queue" is your playlist.
It's different than the skin which used multiple pane/windows.
There is a thread for "all things mater
verycd wrote:
> Thank you for directing me to F-droid and LMS app. It indeed works
> beautifully.
>
> 1) Is there a way to make material skin show "music folder", which is
> available in default and classic? Both the webpage and the app lack
> "music folder" directory.
> 2) The App occasionall
verycd wrote:
> Thank you for directing me to F-droid and LMS app. It indeed works
> beautifully.
>
> 1) Is there a way to make material skin show "music folder", which is
> available in default and classic? Both the webpage and the app lack
> "music folder" directory.
> 2) The App occasionally
d6jg wrote:
> Couple of things to note following install of Material
>
> http://server:9000/default
> and
> http://server:9000/material
>
> Will both work on a PC and bring up the two different interfaces.
> Sometimes the default is easier to use for changing Settings although
> they are acces
Couple of things to note following install of Material
http://server:9000/default
and
http://server:9000/material
Will both work on a PC and bring up the two different interfaces.
Sometimes the default is easier to use for changing Settings although
they are accessible inside Material
Now try
verycd wrote:
> I mean the interface that takes the settings, the "control panel" as in
> windows, where one can click open the webpage control page. I know it is
> installed but don't know where to find it. When I searched media server,
> only the installation package came up. I guess there is
Redrum wrote:
> oops! I am an EE and never heard of "arms" for amps RMS. Maybe an
> international thing? Agree that it's just for testing, but pretty cool.
> More of a "how much is that extra refrigerator/freezer costing us?".
>
> I've got a SB radio sitting here I am going to plug into ito
d6jg wrote:
> What do you mean by controller?
> You will find LMS at http://linuxpcip:9000 or possibly 9001
> Try the material skin plugin
I mean the interface that takes the settings, the "control panel". I
know it is installed but don't know where to find it. When I searched
media server, onl
slartibartfast wrote:
> Seems accurate enough. "Arms" is OK for current (Amps RMS). The best
> part of the spec is the power consumption of the device itself at 10W
> max. You wouldn't want to leave it plugged in if you were trying to save
> power.
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
oops
verycd wrote:
> t.
>
> I can't see why it is much less convenient than a dedicated
> constantly-running server ...
>
> Some online reviews on the Pi 4 say it has heat management problem too
> while the Pi 400 is better in that because there is a large piece of
> aluminum plate covering the en
verycd wrote:
> I installed the LMS on my linux PC as well. I know it is working because
> squeezer app found it but, as a new user of Linux, I don't even know
> where the LMS controller is :rolleyes::rolleyes:
What do you mean by controller?
You will find LMS at http://linuxpcip:9000 or possib
coyrls wrote:
> The comparison was between a laptop in sleep state and a running Pi, so
> not really a like for like comparison and without WOL working, a sleep
> state laptop isn't going to be a user friendly solution and, speaking
> from experience with a Linux server, even with WOL working, i
I figured out it was not the LMS that prevented the notebook from going
to sleep. It is spooler. Not sure how the service got started because I
didn't print anything from the notebook for months. After stopping the
service and deleted all the "unfinished print job files" in a file
folder, The not
verycd wrote:
> You can buy a 'smart plug '
> (https://www.primecables.ca/p-36-lvs-s31us-y-s31-wifi-smart-socket-yellow-smart-phone-app-online-controllable-livingwise#sku373365)for
> 10 dollars cadadian, maybe even less. it can see the real time power
> consumption, be scheduled as a timer o
Redrum wrote:
> not sure but I imagine that the longer the averaged reading the better.
> Maybe I'll try pulling mine out and putting it on my pcp server.
>
> Here's from their manual. Interesting that the accuracy for current is
> measured in "arms". Darn proof reader! :) Not very helpful in t
slartibartfast wrote:
> Are they accurate at low power? Amazon seem to sell a few but they all
> look like they came from the same Chinese factory with a different name
> on the front.
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
not sure but I imagine that the longer the averaged reading the bett
slartibartfast wrote:
> How did you measure the power consumption of the laptop? I sometimes
> have an urge to measure the consumption of various things but don't have
> any equipment to measure it. I used to have access to a number of Power
> Analysers through work but never thought to take one
Redrum wrote:
> not the guy you are asking, but I have a "kill a watt" they are pretty
> cool, and not that much $ (under $30USD) -
> http://www.p3international.com/products/P4400.html
>
> I like that you can take immediate readings, and readings over time, say
> a week or month (for something
bpa wrote:
>
> It looks like partly to convert a secure https URL to a non secure one -
> change https to http AND take off leading digit 1 from port (e.g. 18027
> -> 8027 , 18039 -> 8039)
This is quite common.
Some others add 5 or 10 to the port number.
In this case, they added a massive numbe
slartibartfast wrote:
> How did you measure the power consumption of the laptop? I sometimes
> have an urge to measure the consumption of various things but don't have
> any equipment to measure it. I used to have access to a number of Power
> Analysers through work but never thought to take one
vinnielo wrote:
> The non-secure (HTTP) stream for Yoga Chill is at
> http://radio4.vip-radios.fm:8027/secure-128mp3-YogaChill
> You should be able to use mysqueezebox.com for this.
Interesting
Yoga Chill
non-secure http://radio4.vip-radios.fm:8027/secure-128mp3-YogaChill
secure https://radio4
verycd wrote:
> Good summery, Jim. I am very gradteful too that the volunteers/fans
> spend time keeping the abandoned line alive. I have learned to purchase
> products that have large ethusiastic and capable followers.
>
> I don't feel anyone tried to help me here was pushy in any ways :-) I
You're welcome, -verycd-.
*RadioFeeds UK & Ireland..* an up-to-date radio directory for your
Squeezebox/Transporter/UE Smart Radio.. available from the
mysqueezebox.com App Gallery.
Bonus: our RadioFeeds LMS plugin also lists AAC *and the BBC's
high-quality HLS streams* on top of what's availa
verycd wrote:
> Good summery, Jim. I am very gradteful too that the volunteers/fans
> spend time keeping the abandoned line alive. I have learned to purchase
> products that have large ethusiastic and capable followers.
>
> I don't feel anyone tried to help me here was pushy in any ways :-) I
P Nelson wrote:
> Interesting observation that the Pi may not be the most energy efficient
> solution. I have wondered the same thing because even when the Pcp/LMS
> is not playing any music the cpu temp for my 3B+ always is about 58C. I
> saw in the tweaks there is a cpu governor option of pow
verycd wrote:
> I measured the power consumtion of an old laptop running LMS. 9-10W
> while running LMS alone and 0.2W at sleep. I guess, based on my
> listening time (maxium 100Hs a month), if I don't run it 24/7 as a
> dedicated server, the cost of playing music is $0.5 CAN . Running a Pi
> 400
Redrum wrote:
> Your original post reflected disappointment that the touch stand alone
> operation (mysb.com) was not maintained like other devices, like phones.
> It would not update/play old radio station urls as radio urls migrate
> from http to https. Sometimes the old http streams are alive
d6jg wrote:
> If that is indeed the case he will need to switch it on - usually via a
> bios setting - if the laptop hardware supports it.
Yes, bios is set properly and the ethernet adaptor supports it and
configured according to online tutorials. The notebook is on LAN not
WLAN. The manufactue
Redrum wrote:
> I think he is trying to WOL his laptop running LMS from squeezer on his
> phone. Pi is mentioned as a suggested route, but he is trying to get his
> current config working.
>
> Jim
If that is indeed the case he will need to switch it on - usually via a
bios setting - if the lap
bpa wrote:
> IIRC Pi don't support WOL (maybe more to do with s/w rather than h/w)
> maybe because power usage is considered to be low. Often users who want
> to remotely turn/off Pi use wifi / Zigbee controlled socket and use
> on/off control from phone/tablet - suits users already with some H
verycd wrote:
> The only pain is I still couldn't figure out how to make the Wake On LAN
> (from squeezer app on the phone) work after 10 hours of trying. Guess I
> will settle for the ritualistic walking and pressing the button now. An
> older version of the Squeeze Player app works well on an
verycd wrote:
> I measured the power consumtion of an old laptop running LMS. 9-10W
> while running LMS alone and 0.2W at sleep. I guess, based on my
> listening time (maxium 100Hs a month), if I don't run it 24/7 as a
> dedicated server, the cost of playing music is $0.5 CAN . Running a Pi
> 40
Redrum wrote:
> There are multiple lengthy discussions on "getting started" and "how to"
> that we can give you thread links to if you want. There are also alot of
> "which one is best"
>
> Having said that, I have two LMS only servers, one on a 3b+ and one on a
> 4. The 3b+ is fine, the 4 is f
verycd wrote:
> Which budget version of rastberry pi works best with picoreplayer?
There are multiple lengthy discussions on "getting started" and "how to"
that we can give you thread links to if you want. There are also alot of
"which one is best"
Having said that, I have two LMS only servers
verycd wrote:
> Thank you for the Radionomy and ShoutCast suggestion. I will definitely
> explore the possibilities with these apps. Another cretiria for my
> choosing stations is there must not be any ads. Otherwise I'd rather
> play music in my storage. It is sad to see Adore Jazz started to pl
The non-secure (HTTP) stream for Yoga Chill is at
http://radio4.vip-radios.fm:8027/secure-128mp3-YogaChill
You should be able to use mysqueezebox.com for this.
*RadioFeeds UK & Ireland..* an up-to-date radio directory for your
Squeezebox/Transporter/UE Smart Radio.. available from the
mysqueez
Redrum wrote:
> you have been given good advice from the senior "go to" :) members here,
> but perhaps I can fill a couple gaps. In my mind "mysqueezebox.com" was
> developed for "out of the box" operation of the sb devices. However, the
> functionality is dwarfed by LMS, even early on. When log
bpa wrote:
> That makes sense.
> The "secure" streams comes from the aggregators such as Tune-in and
> Radionet and so additional revenue from audio ads.
>
> The "stream" streams are from the browser page (and possibly Apps) and
> so ads can be visual.
Good tip. I will try to find out if it i
Redrum wrote:
> So, my experience (US) - "secure" starts with commercials, "stream" does
> not. For what it's worth...
That makes sense.
The "secure" streams comes from the aggregators such as Tune-in and
Radionet and so additional revenue from audio ads.
The "stream" streams are from the bro
bpa wrote:
> If you're curious, it would be interesting to see what response you get
> the to the following URL - you can enter in a browser such as Chrome or
> Firefox. It shows the URL a browser will use for station 94 - Yoga
> Chill .
> https://www.vip-radios.fm/wp-admin/admin-ajax.php?actio
bpa wrote:
> If you're curious, it would be interesting to see what response you get
> the to the following URL - you can enter in a browser such as Chrome or
> Firefox. It shows the URL a browser will use for station 94 - Yoga
> Chill .
> https://www.vip-radios.fm/wp-admin/admin-ajax.php?actio
Thank you for the Radionomy and ShoutCast suggestion. I will definitely
explore the possibilities with these apps. Another cretiria for my
choosing stations is there must not be any ads. Otherwise I'd rather
play music in my storage. It is sad to see Adore Jazz started to play
localized ads recen
verycd wrote:
> Interesting. The https stream I extracted from the radio website has
> "stream" instead of "secure" in it. The http link is the same just
> without the "s". My stream never plays commercials while I click your
> Yoga Chill links, I hear ads.
If you're curious, it would be intere
verycd wrote:
> Interesting. The https stream I extracted from the radio website has
> "stream" instead of "secure" in it. The http link is the same just
> without the "s". My stream never plays commercials while I click your
> Yoga Chill links, I hear ads.
vip-radio.fm URL naming does not follo
bpa wrote:
> A pi or a similar is the way to go - all over a better service.
>
>
> Strange.
> Changing https to http is the first thing I tried and the http URLs
> didn't play for me. There can be other factors in the mix which can
> affect http/https support such as country and CDN.
>
> I
toby10 wrote:
> Like you I mostly just stream stations via MySB.com. Sadly MySB.com
> lacking https support means diminishing returns for playable streams,
> but there are still many streams available with no LMS or computer. Try
> out the Radionomy and ShoutCast apps on MySB.com which deliver
verycd wrote:
> Thank you everyone for the help. Since https is not support, guess there
> is no way to achieve the origial purpose of the device (for me), which
> is to play internet radio stations without keeping a computer on. What a
> pity. Indeed, for my use, a retired phone on a stand pro
verycd wrote:
> Thank you for all the valuable suggestions to take advantage of the
> squeezebox. I have been thinking about the raspberry pi.
A pi or a similar is the way to go - all over a better service.
> I emailed the radio station (vip-radios.fm) and asked if there was a
> http url link
P Nelson wrote:
> I use mysqueezbox.com as the server for my SB Radio at my office. I am
> currently streaming: https://18423.live.streamtheworld.com/KCBSFM.mp3.
> I have no idea why it works since mySB.com is not supposed to support
> https. I find some with https radio stations work and ot
Thank you for all the valuable suggestions to take advantage of the
squeezebox. I have been thinking about the raspberry pi.
I emailed the radio station (vip-radios.fm) and asked if there was a
http url link that I could use. It turns out simply dropping the "s" is
the solution. I assume other r
bpa wrote:
> The Touch is about 10 years old and Logitech stopped development for
> Squeezboxes about 10 years ago as well.
> Logitech maintains the mysqueezbox.com server as a service to existing
> users.
> The https protocols required by the station are not implemented by the
> Touch because
verycd wrote:
> Thank you everyone for the help. Since https is not support, guess there
> is no way to achieve the origial purpose of the device (for me), which
> is to play internet radio stations without keeping a computer on. What a
> pity. Indeed, for my use, a retired phone on a stand pro
verycd wrote:
> Thank you everyone for the help. Since https is not support, guess there
> is no way to achieve the origial purpose of the device (for me), which
> is to play internet radio stations without keeping a computer on. What a
> pity. Indeed, for my use, a retired phone on a stand pro
verycd wrote:
> Thank you everyone for the help. Since https is not support, guess there
> is no way to achieve the origial purpose of the device (for me), which
> is to play internet radio stations without keeping a computer on. What a
> pity. Indeed, for my use, a retired phone on a stand pro
Thank you everyone for the help. Since https is not support, guess there
is no way to achieve the origial purpose of the device (for me), which
is to play internet radio stations without keeping a computer on. What a
pity. Indeed, for my use, a retired phone on a stand probably serves
better bec
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