For the 91AD, you have two options --
1. Get the RS-91 software with OPC-1529 data cable ($50 + S/H from Universal
Radio). If you loose the cable, an exact replacement is the Nikon SC-EW2 cable
for $13 at http://www.dcables.net/nikon-sc-ew2-compatible-serial-cable.aspx --
this software lets
Nate and Charles --
This is a fascinating and educational thread. Lots of interesting and useful
info from people with plenty of experience. Thanks for sharing with the rest
of us.
Jim - K6JM
- Original Message -
From: Charles Scott
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
While the AMBE codec chip is relatively cheap, someone would have to develop
the firmware to support D-Star. It will happen eventually.
There are strong rumors that an increasingly popular but not yet major brand is
planning to bring out a D-Star radio. I'm assuming it will be mobile,
That's good news. I've noticed Steve Ford has written small updates about news
in the D-Star world from time to time, including references to node adapters,
hotspots, etc.
I can see they are running D-Star Monitor, but I don't see evidence of DPlus.
Am I missing something?
Jim - K6JM
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Fran, W1FJM
On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 12:37 PM, J. Moen j...@jwmoen.com wrote:
That's good news. I've noticed Steve Ford has written small updates about
news in the D-Star world from time to time, including references to node
adapters, hotspots, etc.
I can see
I won't live long enough to see it, but I fully expect digital voice radio of
various forms to mostly replace analog, much as SSB mostly replaced AM.
Imagine hams communicating by voice in 50 years. Yes, there will be AM, SSB
and analog FM. D-Star may or may not survive. If it does, it will
Jozef,
I appreciate where you are coming from. I must say that while I enjoy D-Star
and my internet-connected HotSpot, probably my favoriate activity is to take a
small case with my Yaesu FT-817ND and my NUE-PSK PSK modem, along with a small,
light 12v battery and a small portable vertical
There is a lot of room in our hobby for many niche interests and points of
view. I became a Ham in the late 1950s and while I started out on AM, I
switched to SSB fairly soon after. I have always liked communications quality
audio for voice communications. When I discovered a whole
The good news is it's really easy to get a HotSpot up and running. I purchased
an assembled board (NQSMHS) from Mark Phillips G7LTT/NI2O in New Jersey, US. I
was lazy so bought the radio cable from him, though I later made one up quite
easily for another HotSpot. I hooked this up to a spare
I'm using Mark's NQSMHS board with a TM-D700A. Works very well. Here are the
D700A settings I'm using, which were passed onto me from Fred PA4YBR:
Settings in firmware:TX Invert = OFF, RX Invert = OFF
Settings in radio:
MENU 1-9-6 (Radio - AUX - Data Speed) : 9600bps (default 1200)
Congratulations on getting into D-Star, and for asking about linking etiquette.
Steve and Ted pretty much nailed it in their responses. I'll try to add a
some additional info. I hope this isn't all old info for you.
As you probably know, the D-Star design and ICOM's implementation is to do
If you haven't already, I'd recommend you consider the non-ICOM approach, which
will allow you to save significant money. This would be using a gmsk modem or
Node Adapter board to interface between the server and an analog radio. The
boards are in the US $100 - $150 range.
For initial
could mod them without too much trouble but I probably don't have
to do that unless I get moved to a narrow pair assignment. Has anyone used a
VXR5000 for this?
Chuck - N8DNX
On 8/26/2010 3:42 PM, J. Moen wrote:
If you haven't already, I'd recommend you consider the non-ICOM approach
I wonder what percentage of USTrust repeaters allow anyone to issue DPlus
unlink and link commands. All the repeaters I have access to in the San
Francisco Bay Area allow that.
I typically do linking from a module that normally is not linked, and I unlink
afterwards. We all try to leave it
Rick,
You've already gotten some excellent advice. Let me just add this. Since you
live near Boston, you should be able to hear and talk to a D-Star repeater. So
first off, program your new radio to do that. Steve's note outlines the basics.
If you only set up MyCall, UrCall = CQCQCQ, the
Click on the Visit Your Group link at the bottom of these notes, then Log In
and go to the Files section of that website, where we can upload files to be
share with others who subscribe to this list.
Jim - K6JM
- Original Message -
From: bosshardss
To:
I completely agree with Joe W8SS about the value of DPlus to DStar users
worldwide except in Japan, where I understand DPlus is normally not added to
ICOM DStar repeaters.
Clearly a newbie can get up to speed and enjoy DStar faster when they
concentrate on DPlus linking and unlinking, versus
I pretty much agree with all that. Purpose for this note is Tony's final tag
Horses for courses.
From the context I guessed what it means, but I looked it up to verify.
usingenglish.com says Horses for courses means that what is suitable for one
person or situation might be unsuitable for
Fred Van Kempen, PA4YBR, also maintains the latest copy of DVAR Hot Spot
software by Mark McGregor, KB9KHM. That site also sells firmware that will run
on Fred's boards, Mark Phillips G7LTT/NI2O's boards, as well as Satoshi's
boards, for 10 Euros. You can also download the tools that help
Mike,
Sorry the documentation is confusing. Node extension naming is not a big deal,
and you can easily change yours later on. I'd recommend just picking something
-- N is fine -- and get on the air.
The confusion comes from there being no naming standards for node extensions,
and the fact
True about how much there appears to be to learn at the start.
But for people living near or wanting to link to DPlus-enabled repeaters (I
realize in Japan they generally don't use DPlus), DPlus linking is what most of
us use most of the time.
So I've found (based on my own initial experience
There is another option besides the ICOM software and cable -- RT Systems sells
their WCSD880 software for use with a cable that plugs into the speaker jack
and supports cloning mode. If you have the cable already, the software can be
downloaded for US $25. As Ted W1GRI points out, you can
Chris,
Satoshi's node adapter or hotspot board was the first, but the boards from the
other two most common suppliers (Mark Phillips G7LTT/NI2O at
http://www.gmskhotspot.com and Fred van Kempen PA4YBR at
http://www.dutch-star.eu are also popular, and all three work with the DVAR Hot
Spot
I would guess the data cables from Yaesu will not be compatible with an ICOM
radio. However, if all you want is to set memories using cloning mode,
generally the standard cloning cable works across most of the radios.
For example, years ago I had a Yaesu VX-5R HT and got a cloning cable from
I agree with Donald. There are now some great non-ICOM ways to put up a
repeater.
And according to http://g4ulf.blogspot.com/ G4ULF's work to provide us with a
fully G2 compatible repeater gateway will be released relatively soon. When
connected into the US Trust network, it looks the same
@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:22 PM
Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Easy way to set up a D-Star Hotspot
I happen to own two D-700s.. Here we go!
Tim, AF1G
From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of J. Moen
Sent: Thursday
I guess I'm an older ham, in that I think of the old term DX as applying to RF
only communications.
But I don't think hamming is about DX, it's about communicating. And from the
earliest days of amateur radio, it's been about experimenting and using new
technology to communicate with
. The point is that they did it. It works great (according
to them) and it didn't cost $10,000.
73
David, AC7DS
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From: J. Moen j...@jwmoen.com
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 7:47:15
You probably know all this, but when preparing to visit a new area, you can
find out about the US Trust registered D-Star repeaters at
http://www.dstarusers.org/repeaters.php?repeatersort=5
W7AES is interesting. I notice Daniel reports W7AES does not work at this
time. And when you go to
Will,
Even though the DVAP and the HotSpot approaches are architecturally similar,
they target different situations. The DVAP is really quick to set up, doesn't
take much space in the shack and it is perfect for travel. Imagine checking
into a hotel with internet access, and within a minute
Will,
Not much to linking. Check out http://www.k6mdd.org/k6mdd/dpluslinking.html
You may find after reading that page, you can skip the rest of this note.
DPlus is an app that most repeater owners outside Japan add to their repeater
software. It allows authorized users (typically everyone,
Will,
Welcome to D-Star. I'm in the SF Bay Area, mostly on K6MDD C. I expect we'll
talk to each other.
The DVAP requires a D-Star radio, typically an HT. You are right -- people get
it to access repeaters and reflectors on the D-Star network, usually when their
D-Star radio can't reliably
I agree with all your points.
Your point about the need for money to help spur change was certainly true of
D-Star in the beginning, but we are just on the verge of being able to bring up
very inexpensive D-Star repeaters using non-ICOM solutions. A ham near me is
setting up a Node Adapter
Donald (no call given) wrote: I'd love to hear and learn more about getting
governments grant(s) for D-Star.
I've heard a lot about how the coordinated approach being done in Georgia. See
the article titled Georgia D-STAR Receives Grant to Cover State! at
I have to agree with you about the current cost of D-Star radios. But there
are some ways around this. People can have a lot of fun with the DV Dongle,
connecting in via DPlus to a huge variety of D-Star repeaters and reflectors.
The Dongle, as I recall is about US $200. Next, there are
Eric VK3EJP/K5EJP wrote: some of my favourite works are French... like
'Sandwich...'
Sandwich, as in Earl Of?
I almost became fluent in Spanish in high school (had QSOs in Spanish, but I
wish I'd gone to live in a Spanish-speaking country for a year), and German in
college (got to the
There's little chance of D-Star repeaters replacing analog repeaters in
northern California, and I suspect that's true in many places in the US. The
voting members of our frequency coordination organization are people who have
coordinated repeaters, and of course virtually all of those are
for over a
year then they should lose their co-ordination. This is something that
should also be put in a form of a Docket for FCC ruling.
73 de K1EG
Mike
J. Moen wrote:
There's little chance of D-Star repeaters replacing analog repeaters
in northern California, and I suspect
When talking about DV hardware approaches, I have no problem with D-STAR's use
of the proprietary AMBE coded that sells for about $20 per chip in small
quantities. It was chosen because it was the best codec available. Most other
DV systems use AMBE chips too.
But when talking about DV
Nate WY0X wrote: The guy asked if you could run D-STAR Gateways on wimpy
computers.
No, N9HSM's question was simply I got a question How [far] can you be be from
the Dstar repeater before you drop out? or How close the Dstar has to be before
you can get into.
I do agree with Nate's point that
I have not read any studies comparing analog FM vs. D-STAR performance under
weak signal conditions. My own experience is that unless there is multipath,
D-STAR tends to work better. Here's an unscientific example -- I have worked a
D-STAR repeater with very tall antenna from over 40 miles
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DSTAR newcomer FINISH
On 5/24/2010 11:19 AM, J. Moen wrote:
Yes, the simplest part of setting up a new D-STAR compatible repeater is
the D-STAR part. The real work
Yes, the simplest part of setting up a new D-STAR compatible repeater is the
D-STAR part. The real work is the traditional stuff -- site, analog radios,
duplexers, antennas etc.
Don't forget to get a club call -- things get confusing when a D-STAR repeater
has the same call as an individual.
I had a spare analog FM radio in the closet, as well as a laptop sitting idle,
and for less than US $150, I put up a HotSpot so I can access the dPlus D-STAR
network from within 5-10 miles around my house. For that same amount, someone
could convert an existing analog repeater to a
My experience with D-Star repeaters is they give me a bit more range than
analog FM, as long as there's no multipath. I can work a D-Star repeater on
top of Mt. Diablo in northern California from Dixon with my 91AD running less
than 5 watts with an HT -- this is over 40 miles. In the greater
Interesting function. Thanks for posting.
Jim - K6JM
- Original Message -
From: n3...@aol.com
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 6:54 AM
Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] RE: Problems
This system accesses a hourly replicated dstar gateway
milkman wrote: It seems to me that D-Star could just be a huge money pit at
this time.
It depends on how you go about it. I bought a 91AD at Dayton, just to get my
feet wet. It cost about the same as my favorite QRP radio (FT-817ND) or about
half of my inexpensive HF QRO radio.
Turns out
Don't retire to northern California. 2 meters is full. PAVE PAWS radar is
knocking 70cm repeaters on hills and mountains off the air. No off the shelf
D-Star radios on 220. 1.2 gHz is good for some things, but more expensive at
this point. All the while, there are 2 meter frequency pairs
e_l_green KI6WBX wrote: Which brings up the question of why 144/440 is all
that's commercially available for D-STAR use, given the crowding...
I've read that since Japan amateurs don't have access to the 220 mHz band,
Japanese radio manufacturers are less inclined to design for that band. Too
ARRL could and probably should provide more leadership regarding digital voice
modes in general, but Part 97 is clear about regional frequency coordinator
groups having the power to coordinate. Certainly on 2 meters, which in some
regions is full up with active FM analog repeaters, plus some
Jay K5ZC wrote: There's no way to force repeaters off the air, coordinated or
uncoordinated. Coordination bodies don't have that power. Only the FCC can
do it, and they're not about to.
Regarding the US -- since the coordinating bodies do give out coordinations,
and Part 97 says any
It's fun to read about these various far-reaching repeaters. I'm not sure it
matters whose repeater has greater coverage, but it does show a lot of people
have put up some great repeaters at excellent locations.
I've been a user of the W6CX FM repeater atop Mt. Diablo in Northern
California.
Nate,
I agree with most everything in your note, but I'd like to extend it a little.
Main message -- hopefully coordinators are interested in the needs and ideas of
repeater users.
I'm not a repeater owner or trustee, just a user. And I've come to
appreciate how difficult the coordination
Where US FCC rules apply, yes, the internet can be used to control a remote
station. A control link using ... another telecommunication service is
considered wireline:
§ 97.213 Telecommand of an amateur station.
An amateur station on or within 50 km of the Earth's surface may be under
James KD0AJZ wrote: My problem is that D-Star is not all that far from me but
I cannot talk on it while I am at my home. However I can walk yes, walk less
than a block and talk all day on it.
Sounds like a problem I've had with a nearby repeater. That repeater's signal
strength is good at my
The IC-80AD HT and the ID-880H are still pretty new.
The DVAP is great for easily setting up an access point in your shack or hotel
room while travelling.
I opted for a Hotspot -- two of the three major Node Adapter/Mini Hotspot
boards can be purchased either as kits or built/tested. I got
I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, in the East Bay near Mt Diablo. We have
several DStar repeaters in the area, but my location is low and the closest
one, K6MDD, has a great signal but my house happens to be in just the wrong
place for multipath, R2D2, etc.
So I got the NQSMHS board from
I'd love to see a poll on whether anyone cares whether DV to DV Dongle is
amateur radio.
I happen to agree that a QSO -- or Ham Radio as has been stated here - must
involve RF. I was born in 1944, and in back in the 50s, everything we Hams did
involved RF.
So if I use my DStar HT to talk
A couple of years ago, I talked to a Kenwood manager who discussed Kenwood's
approach to DStar.
Short term, there are some tactical issues. Right now, some agencies (e.g.
Emergency Centers that want some Ham gear in there) with government grants are
required to follow federal procurement
: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Customers
On Jan 19, 2010, at 7:28 PM, J. Moen wrote:
The use of the word customer has begun to move away from the former
financial definition to refer to the consumer of services from a service
provider. The point is that any service provider, including volunteers
I don't think what Mark Phillips G7LTT/NI2O and Fred van Kempen PA4YBR are
doing with their Satoshi clone boards is shady, though their customers may
end up with questionable practices.
Mark Phillips wrote this on another reflector --
Satoshi's original design (from which mine is derived) is
I have no problem with my homeowner association restrictions, since I
voluntarily signed the CCRs when I purchased the house. I have no one to
blame but myself.
But I do think Hams in the US should lobby to ask the FCC to extend PRB-1 to
apply to Ham antennas. For television antennas, for
-
From: Nate Duehr
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: New guy
On 1/18/2010 2:08 AM, J. Moen wrote:
Imagine a USB Dongle with a 10 milliwatt FM transceiver built into it. It
plugs into your PC
The use of the word customer has begun to move away from the former financial
definition to refer to the consumer of services from a service provider. The
point is that any service provider, including volunteers in non-profit
activities, can improve by focusing on customer satisfaction as an
Earl wrote: So, if I purchase a new D Star dual-bander, what will it allow me
to do that I can't do now??? And how long will it take me to figure out how to
make it go?
The short answer is you'll start to learn about something new in Ham radio.
Analog repeaters are using 60 year old
Imagine a USB Dongle with a 10 milliwatt FM transceiver built into it. It
plugs into your PC that runs dongle software to allow connection into the
D-Star network of repeaters and reflectors. D-Star radios, most likely HTs,
that are nearby, can use this DV Access Point to connect in.
I see
Earl,
It's great you are curious about this new use of Ham Radio. There's a lot of
info on the internet. I've included a few links below, and I'm sure others
will post some good links too.
I got my novice license in 1959, and when I upgraded the next year, my first
phone mode was AM. Oh, I
The ARRL sells a CD-ROM called TravelPlus For Repeaters. You can define a trip
(from x to y) and it will generate a list of repeaters you'll find along the
way. You can then export that list to software that will update your radio. I
used to do that when I travelled more, and it sure beats
Typically ARRL gets their data from regional frequency coordinators, and
unfortunately, in many areas, DStar repeaters have been unable to get
coordinations yet. So they monitor various frequencies and when they find a
pair that is not being used, they set up there while waiting for an
Would the speaker/mic accessory help? I tend to use those with HTs when I'm in
a noisy environment anyway, since if necessary I can move it closer to my ear.
Jim - K6XZ
- Original Message -
From: skoone1
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:40
the audio quality improvement is amazing. The 80 GPS mic
appears to have the same head as the 92 and just a different connector, so I
would expect similarly improved performance over the built in mic on that radio
as well.
-Mike
J. Moen wrote:
Would the speaker/mic accessory help? I
Interesting question. I see a lot of interest in rig control on HF, but not so
much in the VHF/UHF world, and less for D-Star radios.
I have a 91AD, and ICOM's RS-91 software (comes with cable for the data jack)
can both program the settings and memories, and can do remote control of this
Nate WY0X wrote: what's this DR mode? Will it be useful to anyone right now?
I don't have the 880 (do have an 800), but from scanning some of the email
lists, it appears the 80 and 880's DR mode has created some conflict with DPlus
and routing, as if ICOM's designers ignored the steep growth
Nate WY0X wrote: having an IP Gateway up WAY up high at the super wide area
Digi site is going to change the Denver APRS landscape a bit, but I'll
leave that to the Digi owner to discuss with folks, etc... should be a GOOD
thing...
In the APRS world, Bruninga has recommended that the APRS
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