RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] UVD1 price watch and DSTAR

2010-09-06 Thread Tony Langdon
At 02:33 AM 9/7/2010, you wrote: The KG-UVD1 has been upgraded to the KG-UVD1P CE FCC approved.(FCC ID:WVTWOUXUN04) Looks approved to me. I have two of their analog HT's (2M/70cm and 2M/1 1/4M) and have stunned at how well they work. Good receive, good audio and respectable battery life.

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] IC-91AD programming and software

2010-09-06 Thread Tony Langdon
At 02:40 PM 9/7/2010, you wrote: Hi Folks! I was just wondering if anyone has had any experience programming an IC-91AD for D-Star either manually or with software? I have an IC-80AD and it is ok with the freebie ICOM software, but I don't know my options for the IC-91AD and would like to

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-01 Thread Tony Langdon
At 05:05 AM 9/2/2010, you wrote: John, Try plugging a better quality speaker into the radio. I personally find this does wonders to increase fidelity. Icom should be ashamed of the speakers in the D-Star HT's. A better quality speaker certainly works, as anyone who's listened to a DV Dongle

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-01 Thread Tony Langdon
At 08:43 AM 9/2/2010, you wrote: I guess I just can not live with the robotic sound. This is unacceptable in this world of technology. I am trying to find away around this before I dump the whole D-Star thing. As stated, fidelity is not the point of D-STAR. It's voice/data communications using

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Bit Rate?

2010-09-01 Thread Tony Langdon
At 10:16 AM 9/2/2010, you wrote: And for the HF DV experimenter it looks like DVSI now has a chip to do 1200 or 1800 bps (no FEC) AMBE. Hmm, maybe room for a HF dongle for experimenters. :) Of course, a pure software vocoder has its advantages, but there's room to try different approaches.

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] questions about architecture and reflectors

2010-08-13 Thread Tony Langdon
At 06:13 AM 8/14/2010, you wrote: Hi all, I'm busy scraping together money for a D-STAR radio. Someone has loaned me a dongle, and I've been playing around with that. I'm reading up on D-STAR as much as I can. I have a couple questions: I've read about the various Trust Servers, and I'm

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: linked reflector + traditional callsign routing

2010-08-11 Thread Tony Langdon
At 02:35 AM 8/12/2010, you wrote: One of the shortcomings of the linking arrangement - the near station has no idea whether the far end station is linked or not unless the near station has internet access. The near station cannot interfere with a contact on the far end or transmit over the

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: linked reflector + traditional callsign routing

2010-08-11 Thread Tony Langdon
At 07:47 AM 8/12/2010, you wrote: hand the breaking station knows what repeater or ham call he is trying to reach with call sign routing. (and if by a pc on the internet looking at http://dstarusers.orgdstarusers.org know who is occupying what repeater). Assuming they have Internet

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Please help me support D-Star ...

2010-07-30 Thread Tony Langdon
At 05:41 PM 7/30/2010, you wrote: As well as the options already pointed out, there are also a lot of open source systems out there. There is an open source experimentally minded D-Star network out there called the multi-trust which has its own reflectors based on a system called DExtra. It's

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Please help me support D-Star ...

2010-07-30 Thread Tony Langdon
At 10:15 PM 7/30/2010, you wrote: There is an exception with trust servers, that being the patch between the JA trusted server and the K5TIT trusted server. I wonder if 'other' such patches could happen ? Would be nice if it could be done, to unite the global D-STAR networks. 73 de VK3JED /

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Please help me support D-Star ...

2010-07-29 Thread Tony Langdon
At 10:05 PM 7/29/2010, you wrote: Greetings to the group, My name is Donald ~ N2VU, and I'm in Warren County New York ... the first to have D-Star in the area. I was on the fence about D-Star for quite a while until 2 weeks ago and boy do I wish I got into it sooner. I love it! There's

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Registering a Node Adapter

2010-07-29 Thread Tony Langdon
At 04:41 AM 7/30/2010, you wrote: You said you are setting up a simplex hotspot, but what if we trade emails and we agree to talk over D-Star. Yes, we could meet on some repeater or reflector, and tie that up while we talk, but it would be simpler if I just link my hotspot to yours directly.

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Registering a Node Adapter

2010-07-29 Thread Tony Langdon
At 06:16 AM 7/30/2010, you wrote:  True about how much there appears to be to learn at the start. But for people living near or wanting to link to DPlus-enabled repeaters (I realize in Japan they generally don't use DPlus), DPlus linking is what most of us use most of the time. True, and

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Please help me support D-Star ...

2010-07-29 Thread Tony Langdon
At 08:11 AM 7/30/2010, you wrote: Thank you, I appreciate the reply, all that I receive will be incorporated into my presentation. Like I've said, I need to arm myself for the naysayers who are quick to shoot and I need to have the amo to squelch their assumptions! One assumption that gets

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] AZ commited to D-star!

2010-07-23 Thread Tony Langdon
At 08:14 AM 7/23/2010, you wrote: Donald, Maybe you don't need a repeater right away. Try simplex with your fellow Dstar hams. I've been working to promote simplex activity by having a simplex 'event' the second sunday of each month. We plan to kick this off on Aug 8,2010. D-StAR got off to

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: The Next New Guy with Questions

2010-07-14 Thread Tony Langdon
Thanks for the detailed response. I read it twice to make sure I did not miss anything. Too bad the DVAP does not have the AMBE technology. I would think a DVAP + DV-Dongle type product would be real usefull. Something that would allow a ham to use a VHF/UHF radio they already have as a

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: The Next New Guy with Questions

2010-07-14 Thread Tony Langdon
At 02:56 AM 7/15/2010, you wrote: There are some folks who are using the DVDONGLE in combination with an FM radio to get on D-STAR and I guess you could build such a beast (as long as you handled the ID requirements - every radio must ID on its transmission frequency). Play with native

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?

2010-07-12 Thread Tony Langdon
At 07:18 AM 7/13/2010, you wrote: My two Cents on the D-star Drama. The problem here is not the technology itself. The problem with Dstar is that radios are so expensive. On one hand you have ham clubs that can dishout the money to That's a matter of opinion. I considered the D-STAR radios

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?

2010-07-11 Thread Tony Langdon
At 03:59 AM 7/12/2010, you wrote: Personally I think on the hand of VOIP and Dstar I think the add more capabilities to ham radio do I think analog will be replaced by digital no now it might take away some of the experimental band set by arrl which is where it should be at this early stage

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?

2010-07-11 Thread Tony Langdon
At 05:36 AM 7/12/2010, you wrote: Bottom line -- in this area at least, coordinations will not be pulled from existing analog repeaters any time soon, no matter how little utilized they are. It's just the nature of the Bylaws of the frequency coordination organization about who gets to vote,

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: CONNECTING TO RELECTORorREPEATERS

2010-07-10 Thread Tony Langdon
At 05:35 PM 7/10/2010, you wrote: Hello. One question: If I (on my local repeater) link to a reflector using REF001CL and then later forget to unlink, can someone else unlink from the reflector using U (at the 8 digit) ? I heard someone say that only the one that set up a link can unlink it

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: CONNECTING TO RELECTORorREPEATERS

2010-07-10 Thread Tony Langdon
At 06:04 PM 7/10/2010, you wrote: Hello. Thank you for the reply. I will try to get hold of another operator to test this on our repeater. It might be as you say an administrator configuration option for this. Make sure you use a valid and registered callsign in MY, as I'm pretty sure

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Proposal for a DStar experiment.

2010-07-01 Thread Tony Langdon
Here in Australia, there are a number of people interested in doing some mountaintopping on D-STAR. There's also a CB group that have been doing long distance (without the aid of skywave) message relaying between mountain tops on the HF and UHF CB bands. Distances achieved from end to end are

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Proposal for a DStar experiment.

2010-07-01 Thread Tony Langdon
Take a leaf out of the CB guys book here. State your objective, and call for interested people and their likely mountain tops. That will help determine the message path. Sent from my iPhone On 02/07/2010, at 6:58 AM, Gary Miller k4...@ymail.com wrote: I think that is a great idea. The

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] D-STAR Situation in France / European Parliament Petition

2010-06-28 Thread Tony Langdon
At 04:57 AM 6/29/2010, you wrote: You should take a look at this : http://draf.asso.fr/index.php?post/2010/06/28/D-STAR-situation-in-France Looks like a Government agency that doesn't really understand D-STAR or other newer digital modes. I'm sure that if someone can sit the officials down and

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: D-STAR Situation in France / European Parliament Petition

2010-06-28 Thread Tony Langdon
At 07:22 AM 6/29/2010, you wrote: We've done this tree time, by showing and explaining how d-star works and why it's ok with french regulation. But there is one guy ... who simply doesn't want, because he dont want that amateur have access to new technology. This guy is an old hamradio ... and

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: [D-STAR_23cm] D-STAR Activity at Friedrichshafen Hamfest?

2010-06-28 Thread Tony Langdon
At 09:35 AM 6/29/2010, you wrote: PS. There was also some news announced about the D-Star ICC. Here are some pictures from the presentations and of some of the homebrew D-Star hardware: So, what was the news about the ICC, for those of us who couldn't make it? 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: [D-STAR_23cm] D-STAR Activity at Friedrichshafen Hamfest?

2010-06-28 Thread Tony Langdon
At 09:54 AM 6/29/2010, you wrote: Loosely translated: Coming soon... Hehe, fair enough. :) 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL http://vkradio.com

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: In hindsight... [daydream]

2010-06-27 Thread Tony Langdon
At 06:58 AM 6/28/2010, you wrote: If G4ULF and KB9HKM supported this mode; if AA4RC modified his reflectors to create a data mode reflector; and if the node-adapter folks would add such a data mode (serial in/out at 4800 bps), you could do this with non-DStar radios over much of the existing

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] A new add-on-tool for DStar gateways announced at Hamradio event

2010-06-27 Thread Tony Langdon
At 10:38 AM 6/28/2010, you wrote: http://db0fhn.efi.fh-nuernberg.de/doku.php?id=projects:dstar:ircddb There's chatter about this on the gateway group, and it seems to be public knowledge. Apparantly I believe it was unveiled publicly at Hamburg (I think) this weekend just past. I was

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: D-Star air interface authentication

2010-06-24 Thread Tony Langdon
At 06:36 AM 6/25/2010, you wrote: All, thanks for your replies and arguments. Authentication subject has been raised in connection with negative examples in analog repeater networks and AMPR in the past. Until then while the repeater works locally - security is a problem of repeater's owner. I

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: D-Star air interface authentication

2010-06-24 Thread Tony Langdon
At 02:50 PM 6/25/2010, you wrote: I don't see any need for authentication/security protocols for D-star beyond what's already in place. What ever in the world for? We've done just fine for many years without it on analouge V/UHF repeaters, Echolink and etc. We don't need it anymore than we

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] D Star Contest

2010-06-23 Thread Tony Langdon
At 06:26 AM 6/24/2010, you wrote: There is a D Star Contest taking place over this week but I have heard no one and no one has replied to calls. I don't want to go on to 001C in case the bazookas from across the Atlantic are lined up on me!! So any suggestions please for finding

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] D Star Contest

2010-06-23 Thread Tony Langdon
At 06:39 AM 6/24/2010, you wrote: You will have to find a repeater that does not run the DPlus software as that is prohibited by Icom. Not correct, but you do have to use callsign routing, not DPlus to make the contact. Callsign routing is supported by all gateways. It doesn't matter that

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] D Star Contest

2010-06-23 Thread Tony Langdon
At 06:54 AM 6/24/2010, you wrote: Forget reflectors and repeaters, Watch last heard and place a target callsign in your urcall to callsign route, with a 20 character message like Contest pls 1 touch¨ That's not a bad tactic to use, I like it! :) Probably 1 out of 20 receiving your call will

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] G2 32 bits vs 64 bits

2010-06-20 Thread Tony Langdon
At 09:37 AM 6/21/2010, you wrote: Then I remembered my own problems experimenting in the past, and this looks like the same error I had gotten. I wonder if there is anyway to save this, or if the sensible thing is to do a 32 bit Centos install and go through the steps again? TIA. I'd be

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: G2 32 bits vs 64 bits

2010-06-20 Thread Tony Langdon
At 12:16 PM 6/21/2010, you wrote: G2, dstarmon, dprs, and dplus all seem to be running just fine. Maybe something will show downstream, but for now it seems that 64-bit Centos will with the fix above. While my experience with 34 bit software on a 64 bit system suggests you're right in that

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Codec2 development - open source vocoder

2010-06-14 Thread Tony Langdon
At 01:02 AM 6/15/2010, you wrote: Free?? TANSTAAFL or in this case installing a laptop in my car is not free. For me it needs to be a hardware implementation. I do not mind outboard modems or adapters hooked to the 9600 baud port on my mobile radios. In my case, it depends. For some

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Codec2 development - open source vocoder

2010-06-11 Thread Tony Langdon
If any of you speak the C language he could use your hand! At the very least, getting Codec2 to a Unfortunately, I don't. :( beta-testing stage would be exciting to say the least! However, it won't happen without community support. Well, when it gets to the point that some beta testing is

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Codec2 development - open source vocoder

2010-06-11 Thread Tony Langdon
At 11:56 PM 6/11/2010, you wrote: The answer to why there's a push for 6.25 KHz, could best be answered during a chat with G4TSN, who will fill you in on how hard it is to get new kit on the air on VHF, especially near conurbations. This problem exists across much of Europe and the US, it's

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Codec2 development - open source vocoder

2010-06-10 Thread Tony Langdon
At 01:14 PM 6/11/2010, you wrote: I think most of us are in total agreement with Jim on these points. We would love to see open source and unencumbered DV Vocoders. The push back is only when someone wants to use it to break Agree on all counts guys. D-STAR, which has an installed base and

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Codec2 development - open source vocoder

2010-06-09 Thread Tony Langdon
At 02:33 AM 6/10/2010, you wrote: Of course we could come up with better network protocols (security, no #...@$# pre-registration of radios -- the callsign is the registration, strong authentication for network connected devices, better discovery and update, classes of traffic with full admin

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Codec2 development - open source vocoder

2010-06-08 Thread Tony Langdon
At 06:06 PM 6/8/2010, you wrote: I would also like to see a move away from 4800 Bd GMSK and maybe go to 9600 Bd and using the G3RUH modem, most of our radios would be able to handle it, it'd be easy to distinguish on air, and there'd be extra bits available to add some FEC to the slow data.

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Codec2 development - open source vocoder

2010-06-08 Thread Tony Langdon
At 11:34 PM 6/8/2010, you wrote: So my question is, how long has the G3RUH modem and other CODECs been around that could make a VHF/UHF communications system like D-STAR. From my knowledge, the solution has been available for probably 5+, if not 10+ years. But yet the glorious Amateur Radio

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Codec2 development - open source vocoder

2010-06-07 Thread Tony Langdon
At 05:34 PM 6/7/2010, you wrote: And that D-STAR protocol definition is defined by the JARL... How much of a prospect is it the JARL would be willing to update the DSTAR protocol with an open source vocoder if it were competitive to AMBE? Assuming the JARL were open (pun not intended!) to the

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Codec2 development - open source vocoder

2010-06-07 Thread Tony Langdon
At 11:25 PM 6/7/2010, you wrote: I'm not sure if the person who wrote the Codec2 page fully understands D-Star. Several times they refer to D-Star as 9600 baud, it's actually 4800 for DV. 2400 w/ 1200 bps FEC for the voice part. However, the link that was given is definitely focusing on a

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Codec2 development - open source vocoder

2010-06-07 Thread Tony Langdon
At 12:40 AM 6/8/2010, you wrote: Not to mention, any manufacturer who wanted to implement Codec2 *wouldn't need* a pre-manufactured vocoder chip. They'd implement the vocoder algorithm into their existing firmware on the onboard processor I doubt the onboard processor would be up to the

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Codec2 development - open source vocoder

2010-06-07 Thread Tony Langdon
At 01:43 AM 6/8/2010, you wrote: OK, but there's nothing wrong with extending the current protocol and calling it D*Star+ or just D*Star Compatible or whatever. 2 words: backwards compatibility. There would have to be a LOT of money spent to make this work. Heck, there are already some

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Codec2 development - open source vocoder

2010-06-07 Thread Tony Langdon
At 05:07 AM 6/8/2010, you wrote: I thought that reverse enginering ambe would be illigal... You misread, the proposal was about transcoding, which is not illegal (it still uses an AMBE chip on the AMBE end), and is commonplace in the telco world. However, I did raise other serious issues

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Dstar

2010-06-02 Thread Tony Langdon
At 07:41 PM 6/2/2010, you wrote: In business, the decision maker frequently cannot get quality engineering data to help make a decision, and is forced to figure out what experts feel is the answer based in their own experience. We are kind of in that postion here. I don't think we'll steer

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] D-STAR use in emergency comms

2010-05-28 Thread Tony Langdon
I've been invited by the local D-STAR community here to give a presentation on the use of D-STAR in emergency communications in 3 weeks time. As so far, no one in VK has used (to my knowledge) D-STAR in an emergency communications role, and the fact that I have participated in the SE WX Net,

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Honest questions .....

2010-05-17 Thread Tony Langdon
At 03:57 AM 5/18/2010, Woodrick, Ed wrote: And while you indicate that the G2 and DPlus protocols aren't open source, they definitely have been reversed engineered and we have third party solutions talking to them now. This also has precedent. The exact same thing happened with Echolink,

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Honest questions .....

2010-05-17 Thread Tony Langdon
At 05:22 AM 5/18/2010, you wrote: But if you would do a little legwork and reading, you'll find that indeed, the hotspots access the DPlus network and that the G4ULF repeater is accessing the G2 network. I think Nate is asking for the results of the reverse engineering, not (closed)

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] DSTAR newcomer FINISH

2010-05-15 Thread Tony Langdon
At 12:23 PM 5/16/2010, you wrote: But D-STAR certainly is useful, usable and fun without an Internet connection, and even without a repeater - it works fine simplex. In fact, simplex is preferred for using the DV data mode and using D-RATS. I'm glad that I came up on D-STAR before the first

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know???

2010-05-08 Thread Tony Langdon
At 06:37 AM 5/9/2010, you wrote: I agree. If you're not interested in D-Star, why waste the time of those who are? Just go and do something else. Exactly. There's so much to do in ham radio that if D-STAR is not your thing, there's a lot of other things to choose from. Personally, I enjoy

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: I Want To Know???

2010-05-08 Thread Tony Langdon
At 09:58 AM 5/9/2010, you wrote: I can also hit FM repeaters 100 miles, but there are also FM repeaters 15 miles away that I can't hit. There's a lot of variability in how individual repeaters operate. Also, I had no idea what type of equipment that you have, mobile, handheld, or fixed. So,

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] D-Star commercial radios

2010-05-05 Thread Tony Langdon
At 07:12 AM 5/6/2010, you wrote: e_l_green KI6WBX wrote: Which brings up the question of why 144/440 is all that's commercially available for D-STAR use, given the crowding... I've read that since Japan amateurs don't have access to the 220 mHz band, Japanese radio manufacturers are less

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: ARRL Field Day Rules - 145.67 simplex

2010-04-21 Thread Tony Langdon
At 03:30 PM 4/21/2010, you wrote: WOW- I sure poked an ant bed here, didn't I My point is DSTAR can operate SIMPLEX, as that is what I thought the point was for field day. Now assuming we're talking about SIMPLEX, one could SHARE a SIMPLEX frequency with all the other hams out there. Not

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: ARRL Field Day Rules - 145.67 simplex

2010-04-21 Thread Tony Langdon
At 08:06 PM 4/21/2010, you wrote: Morning Tony That was MY point keep d-star and digital OFF the standard simplex frequencies. NOW we all know that can be a problem SO Why not get the ARRL to hold a vote of WHICH frequencies are most used by FM ? Well, D-STAR needs to go somewhere, and

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Repeater stack

2010-04-20 Thread Tony Langdon
At 12:34 AM 4/21/2010, you wrote: what is the lightning like in your area? If it is anything like it is here in Florida... go with a commercial grade antenna... otherwise your putting up a toothpick maker If on a site where any weather extremes are possible - wind, snow, ice, lightning,

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: ARRL Field Day Rules - 145.67 simplex

2010-04-20 Thread Tony Langdon
Actually, our only dual-mode P25 repeater around here went by the wayside, because the digital users got tired of the non-CTCSS understanding analog users keying up in analog in the middle of a QSO to ask What's wrong with the repeater?!... That's the problem I see with dual mode. Dual

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-09 Thread Tony Langdon
I don't think so, I fully agree with Ed, I have seen many user´s drop off dstar, due to callsign routing technique not satisfying their desire to listen in on a qso first before joining in. Good point. Hams love listening. It's part and parcel of the hobby, whether people like it or not.

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-08 Thread Tony Langdon
At 05:59 AM 4/9/2010, you wrote: This is more a sign of really poor integration of the regular features vs. the add-on features, than anything. If the two were aware of each other in any way, a message could be sent back to the user who is barging in saying the remote system is linked

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] DSTAR communication

2010-04-07 Thread Tony Langdon
At 03:56 PM 4/7/2010, you wrote: Makes since. Thanks.. WOw. have I been educated tonight. But isn't that what this is suppose to be all about? Helping each other with these sort of things. I appreciate your help in how this stuff works. This makes since because I think some of the ones around

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] DSTAR communication

2010-04-07 Thread Tony Langdon
At 04:18 PM 4/7/2010, you wrote: Some repeater owners/operators over here still don't allow users to control the links. I find it silly, but it's sometimes how they're set up. You can't tell some people. It's actually not so bad if someone's always around to push the buttons (like used to

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] DSTAR communication

2010-04-07 Thread Tony Langdon
At 11:47 PM 4/7/2010, you wrote: As to hitting the repeater, as someone else mentioned, it's just RF. VHF/UHF frequencies are notorious for moving the radio 3 inches and going from full quieting to no signal at all. Remember, the repeater is probably running at least 20 watts out of an antenna

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] DSTAR communication

2010-04-07 Thread Tony Langdon
At 06:38 AM 4/8/2010, you wrote: James KD0AJZ wrote: My problem is that D-Star is not all that far from me but I cannot talk on it while I am at my home. However I can walk yes, walk less than a block and talk all day on it. Sounds like a problem I've had with a nearby repeater. That

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-07 Thread Tony Langdon
At 08:40 AM 4/8/2010, you wrote: I may be asking a question that has already been answered. What is the difference between Linking (UR: KJ4MMCCL) and Source Routing (UR: /KJ4OXTC)? This is something I have yet to figure out. Linking uses the DPlus addon. It behaves (in concept) like IRLP and

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] DSTAR communication

2010-04-07 Thread Tony Langdon
At 01:55 PM 4/8/2010, you wrote: I don't know if this coordination problem is only in the USA. Here, it seems some regions are finding solutions and others aren't. As a fan of DStar, and knowing that some regions have slowly and diplomatically refarmed portions of 2 meters, then taken

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Emergency comms poll.

2010-04-03 Thread Tony Langdon
At 03:00 AM 4/4/2010, you wrote: o Yes, even with loss of internet connectivity, D-Star will perform better than analog., D-Star will perform better than analog. o Yes, but only without loss of internet connectivity, D-Star will perform better than analog. o No, D-Star will perform

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Emergency comms poll.

2010-04-03 Thread Tony Langdon
At 07:52 AM 4/4/2010, you wrote: After considerable experience on D-Star nets, both via dplus links and Icom's multiplex facility, and in callsign routed QSO's, I am of the distinct opinion that D-Star communciations are fairly unreliable. Dropped streams are frequent. Folks double on each

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DV dongle QSO ham radio?

2010-03-27 Thread Tony Langdon
At 12:03 AM 3/28/2010, you wrote: The important question to me: is Internet use good or bad for ham radio (IRLP, Echolink, WIRES, DVDongle/DVAP, remote HF control, etc.) My answer is Yes. Exactly Gary, you've pretty much covered the issues. We do need RF capability - lots of it - just to

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] DV dongle QSO ham radio?

2010-03-27 Thread Tony Langdon
At 05:35 AM 3/28/2010, you wrote: Here is what I feel like are valid dongle uses. 1) Traveling in hotel. 2) No D-Star repeater in range at home. 3) Link to a specific reflector and not use local repeater. All of these are common uses for the dongle, though my preference would be to use a DVAP,

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] DV dongle QSO ham radio? (was: New poll for dstar_digital)

2010-03-25 Thread Tony Langdon
At 02:09 PM 3/26/2010, you wrote: Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the dstar_digital group: Three folks with amateur radio callsigns chat over the internet, each using a dv dongle. o This is an example of a round table amateur radio QSO. o This is an example of an

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment

2010-03-18 Thread Tony Langdon
At 10:53 PM 3/18/2010, you wrote: The ID-1 has remote capabilities via USB, the buggy software is included with it. BTW, anyone know if they ever updated it? Can't seem to find it on Icom's site. The IC91AD can also be remotely controlled, using the RS-91 software and the appropriate serial

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment

2010-03-17 Thread Tony Langdon
At 06:40 AM 3/18/2010, you wrote: The one thing I hate is using memories to do everything. Go to a new area and you've got to program new memories. Ever see one of Mark's , KJ4VO, files? He has everything in there. I get confused just looking at one. I think the way memories currently work

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Alternative D-STAR Equipment (Was: Looking for DSTAR MAP)

2010-03-17 Thread Tony Langdon
At 10:11 AM 3/18/2010, you wrote: It is a question of the G2 network at this point, there is a lot of politics going on about who and what can connect, but the technology exists. Maybe that's what I was trying to say. :) Politics is definitely a bigger barrier than technology at this point

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Random Thoughts on an Open D-STAR Architecture [Was: Home Rptr is MIA, What do I do???]

2010-03-09 Thread Tony Langdon
At 06:59 AM 3/10/2010, you wrote: I have been doing a lot of thinking about a new D-STAR Architecture (and hope to provide some more concrete material at some point), but this discussion brings up some basic ideas that have been percolating in my ruminations. Icom started from a different

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Random Thoughts on an Open D-STAR Architecture [Was: Home Rptr is MIA, What do I do???]

2010-03-09 Thread Tony Langdon
At 08:26 AM 3/10/2010, you wrote: 1. Use a VPN network with multiple (failover) servers to connect to, linked together, geographically spread out. This enables us to create a private network on top of the internet or any other network medium that can encapsulate the VPN. We think about using

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Random Thoughts on an Open D-STAR Architecture [Was: Home Rptr is MIA, What do I do???]

2010-03-09 Thread Tony Langdon
At 10:12 AM 3/10/2010, you wrote: And indeed, back to my initial statement. It's pretty obvious how hard it is to reach any consensus and how many different opinions that exist. Take a look at the more popular Amateur Radio programs, how many of them are Open Source? Not many, but the

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] D-STAR Info Newsletter

2010-02-16 Thread Tony Langdon
At 02:52 PM 2/17/2010, you wrote: Something new has just been introduced into the world of D-STAR. The DV Access Point Dongle, released in January by Internet Labs, provides a way to connect to the International D-STAR Network. Like their current product, the DV Dongle, the DV Access Point

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] 2200H vs 880

2010-02-13 Thread Tony Langdon
At 02:23 AM 2/14/2010, you wrote: My current thoughts are to get the 2200 now and the digital board later when funds are available. I'll add my voice to the chorus, and I concur with the general consensus. Of the two radios mentioned, definitely put down the extra money and go for the 880.

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Purchasing a Node Adapter

2010-01-20 Thread Tony Langdon
At 03:53 AM 1/21/2010, you wrote: Is there anyone else developing an adapter that is not dependant on Satoshi's firmware? There is new firmware being developed for the node adapter/mini hotspot hardware that is not based on Satoshi's firmware. Stay tuned to the various groups. 73 de VK3JED

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Has anyone tried using the node adapter in the simplex mode as a link on ...

2010-01-20 Thread Tony Langdon
At 08:00 AM 1/21/2010, you wrote: analog connected to DSTAR!! NO THANK YOU! I've used a system with a very functional analog interconnect. There's always some passionate rhetoric when this topic comes up, a lot like node adapters. Everyone is certainly entitled to an opinion.

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: New guy

2010-01-20 Thread Tony Langdon
At 08:28 AM 1/21/2010, you wrote: What many of us do is to utilize every means possible to provide communications. There are times when atmospheric conditions make it impossible to use HF. There are times when any repeater will go off the air for some reason. What makes Amateur Radio reliable

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Purchasing a Node Adapter

2010-01-19 Thread Tony Langdon
At 10:48 AM 1/20/2010, you wrote: New non-Satoshi firmware will be available very soon. And the Hot Spot application already works with this new firmware and drivers. Fred's new drivers also get around the Win7 (x64) issue that plagues the old LibUSB drivers. Look forward to this. :) 73 de

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Dec 2009 QST p 50

2009-12-19 Thread Tony Langdon
At 02:10 AM 12/20/2009, you wrote: See Gary Pearce' ID880H Product Review - plus some heresy about switching from AM to squawky (1950 equivalent of R2D2) SSB. 73 nu5d I've got a bit behind in reading QST lately. I'll have to check it out. :) Yep, it'll take time for people to make the

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DstarUses org.

2009-12-13 Thread Tony Langdon
At 07:57 AM 12/14/2009, you wrote: Hi Alan, apparently you need a DeLorean travelling at 88.8 MPH before you can work any of the stations on that repeater - HI HI. A TARDIS should do the trick too. ;) 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL http://vkradio.com

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Rookie Questions

2009-12-05 Thread Tony Langdon
At 02:03 PM 12/6/2009, you wrote: I am trying to understand the features and limitations of D-STAR. I have viewed every D-STAR video on YouTube (Especially good were KN4AQ Gary Pearce's videos) plus I have read the articles/manuals on the Icom site and DSTARusers.org. How can D-STAR radios

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] MB6AM: UK's First G2 Connected Simplex D-Star Node

2009-11-20 Thread Tony Langdon
At 10:00 AM 11/21/2009, you wrote: MB6AM, 2m D-Star Simplex Node: Tring, Herts. After several weeks in testing, MB6AM went live this afternoon, sharing the same mast as the 70cm GB3TU repeater. MB6AM is located in Tring, North West of London and is well appointed to provide Digital Voice

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Internet Via ID-800H

2009-11-03 Thread Tony Langdon
At 07:39 AM 11/4/2009, you wrote: Yeah, you can tell it not to process the queue (the Outbox) automatically (it's the default, of course). Then you can just prune bits from there until it's clean and then process the queue manually. It's all still quite a bit in flux at the moment, but we're

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Information request.

2009-10-26 Thread Tony Langdon
At 05:45 AM 10/27/2009, you wrote: John, I'm not sure why you indicate that the DVDongle is an *extremely* expensive alternative to connect to D-STAR. The DVDongle is $200USD and should be half the price of the IC-E92D. The DVDongle does require a terrestrial (low latency) Internet

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Cable for ic91 a/d

2009-10-20 Thread Tony Langdon
At 11:27 AM 10/21/2009, you wrote: You can make a rs-232 to IC-91 cable, but I think a USB will be a bit of a problem. Make the RS232-USB cable, then add a USB to serial adapter, and it should work fine. 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL http://vkradio.com

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] newbe ?

2009-10-19 Thread Tony Langdon
At 01:05 PM 10/20/2009, you wrote: I'm new to D-Star and have not yet been able to register for gateway use. I've asked a couple of hams in my area about registering and was sent a link which didn't work for some reason. Because I drive longhaul trucks for a living I'm not home long enough to

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] newbe ?

2009-10-19 Thread Tony Langdon
At 02:11 PM 10/20/2009, you wrote: This is true. I'm registered to K5CTX where I used to live, but now I use VK3RWN. Never bothered changing the registration. Yep, that would work. This is who I don't like the decentralised approach, it makes it hard for dongle users to know where to

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Beeps

2009-10-16 Thread Tony Langdon
At 07:20 AM 10/17/2009, you wrote: That is not what I read in previous discussions by folks who were actually doing protocol-level work, but if you insist that the headers are encapsulated inside the portion of the stream that's covered by FEC, I can't really refute it technically. My

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re:callsign routing

2009-10-16 Thread Tony Langdon
At 10:31 PM 10/16/2009, you wrote: A few questions I've used Callsign Routing as well as most of the other methods available on the system. All have been both successful and at other times not so much. Here are the questions as well as my thoughts to date which are subject to correction.

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Beeps

2009-10-14 Thread Tony Langdon
At 01:00 AM 10/15/2009, you wrote: I think you will find the bleeps are from your radio. The receiver bleeps to notify you a DV signal has dropped, not the repeater. Try a simplex QSO, this will confirm this for you. They are from the radio. You can turn them off in the menus (at least on

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] REF023 A available for JOTA

2009-10-13 Thread Tony Langdon
As I advised several weeks ago, REF023 A is available for JOTA stations to use all weekend. Feel free to use it for JOTA as needed. I probably won't get to monitor too often, but if there are any problems, please feel free to drop me an email. 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL http://vkradio.com

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] DV Dongle/Operating Systems

2009-10-11 Thread Tony Langdon
At 09:47 AM 10/12/2009, you wrote: Can someone tell me if the DV dongle will work with Vista64 bit or the Apple Snow Leopard operating systems? I'm using it on Vista 64 bit, no worries. Both the Java version, and the new binary betas of DVTool work for me. 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL

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