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Subject:
In Praise of Bastiat
Date:
Thu, 5 Jul 2001 06:41:30 -0400
From:
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Greed is a terrible thing, Graham. Pity.
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Jeffrey,
Who charges 3 1/2 weeks?
Eric
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- Original Message -
From: Jeffrey Knapton
On Wed, 4 Jul 2001, Graham Kelly wrote:
Ian,
I tend to agree, but I learned a long time ago, that people who undercut
a service fee-wise, are generally not around a while later... so I've
[snip]
Not always true.
There is zero risk in outexchanging E-Gold and you have to get it from
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I've started seeing advertising for non E-Gold
related traffic tools and stuff like that on this
list. Can we keep it E-Gold orientated? I'm
sure we all have a few hundred affiliate links
that we could shamelessly promote as well ...
On a different note, I am starting an E-Gold
newsletter.
Now more than ever Outexchange transactions need to have as much (if
not
MORE) Due Diligence completed as Inexchange transactions. Completing
outexchanges for people can sometimes drop their dirty laundry right on
top of your unsuspecting head.
Do you know of any e-gold transactions
Craig,
Do you know of any e-gold transactions that have been reversed? Did they
reverse any e-gold sent to you?
Reversed? No. As I stated in my posting, they are non-reputiable
(non-reversible).
Any particular reason you are asking?
Thanks,
Eric Gaither, President
Gaithmans
Now more than ever Outexchange transactions need to have as much (if not
MORE) Due Diligence completed as Inexchange transactions. Completing
outexchanges for people can sometimes drop their dirty laundry right on
top of your unsuspecting head.
Wait a minute... Are you suggesting that
Eric,
I agree fully with you. It would be rather nice if we
could check out a new outexchange client, perhaps then
we could stop them from getting at their ill gotten
gains, that would certainly slow down the amount of
fraud.
Obviously this requires assistance from the providor's
to do, can we
Eric,
I agree fully with you. It would be rather nice if we
could check out a new outexchange client, perhaps then
we could stop them from getting at their ill gotten
gains, that would certainly slow down the amount of
fraud.
Obviously this requires assistance from the providor's
to do, can we
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Do you know of any e-gold transactions that have been reversed? Did they
reverse any e-gold sent to you?
Reversed? No. As I stated in my posting, they are non-reputiable
(non-reversible).
Any particular reason you are asking?
I thought your message was implying that e-gold
Eric,
There is zero risk in outexchanging E-Gold and you have to get it from
somewhere.
I must disagree with you on this point. Technically, there is no
*immediate* risk on outexchanges because the transaction is non-reputiable,
agreed. However, due to the large numbers of scammers
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Subject: [e-gold-list] RE: E-Gold to Paypal
Now more than ever Outexchange transactions need to have as much (if
not
MORE) Due Diligence completed as
I agree that $2.50 is too expensive, but I don't think this is a copy of
the eBay site. It is similar only to the extent that it is following
commonly used user interface elements or concepts. Just look at how many
search engine and directory sites look like Yahoo! (even having all the same
It would be rather nice if we could check out a new outexchange client,
Why can't you? If you can check out an inexchange client, what is stopping
you from checking out an outexchange client?
perhaps then we could stop them from getting at their ill gotten
gains, that would certainly slow
CCS,
Thanks for pointing out a few things:
You are confusing several different and unrelated things.
1. You received a wire not e-gold.
2. Dealing with a known crook is risky
Neither of these risks is associated with an e-gold outexchange.
1. I did, in fact, receive a bank wire
Just wondered how you would go about deciding which outexchanges were ill
gotten gains? Eric said he did verify ID, address, etc., what more would
you need to assure yourself that it was clean money? Do you really want
to start a serious know your customer thing like the banks?
Gary
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Happy birthday Bastiat!
http://bastiat.org/en/
Our political leaders (and the voters too!) will do well to learn the
lessons intended by Bastiat's witty satires, particularly his petition to
the French parliament on behalf of candlemakers and related industries
seeking relief from ruinous
b. Why is a KNOWN crook (your words) allowed to outexchange e-gold?
(Again, probably your answer will be the User Agreement. Realistically this
is more of an ethics vs. morals issue.)
Are known crooks allowed to have a bank account?
My point to all of this is that if you
Just wondered how you would go about deciding which outexchanges were ill
gotten gains? Eric said he did verify ID, address, etc., what more would
you need to assure yourself that it was clean money? Do you really want
to start a serious know your customer thing like the banks?
Definitely
i just saw a copy of _Gold Magazine_
containing an article about online gold currencies.
the cover blurb:
e-gold: interactive currency of the future?
for more info, try this PDF link:
http://www.gold.org/Gra/Pr/Gold_website_ad.pdf
jay w.
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Eric,
Most of the things you have said are true but you are still confusing
different things.
My point to all of this is that if you honestly believe that there is
ZERO risk associated with outexchanges, you are wrong. There ARE risks
associated with outexchanges. Not the risk of having
Just wondered how you would go about deciding which outexchanges were ill
gotten gains? Eric said he did verify ID, address, etc., what more would
you need to assure yourself that it was clean money? ...
One key thing is to only accept money from the person with whom you are
conducting the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i just saw a copy of _Gold Magazine_
containing an article about online gold currencies.
the cover blurb:
e-gold: interactive currency of the future?
for more info, try this PDF link:
http://www.gold.org/Gra/Pr/Gold_website_ad.pdf
jay w.
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but I don't think this is a
copy of
the eBay site. It is similar only to the extent that it is following
commonly used user interface elements or concepts. Just look at
how many
search engine and directory sites look like Yahoo! (even having
all the same
categories) or indeed, how your
Hear, hear!
The best source for Bastitat books -- Joe Moorman's
http://www.planetgold.com/books/ site!
Subject:
In Praise of Bastiat
Date:
Thu, 5 Jul 2001 06:41:30 -0400
From:
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To:
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e-gold because e-gold is unfortunately turning out to be a crook
magnet.
Sad...but true. I must agree with you.
Crooks are using e-gold for the exact same reason that legitimate user do.
The ability to do world-wide commerce without fear of the transaction
being cancelled. Legitimate
Any payment system, not just electronic ones, that allows non-repudiable
payments will be fraught with scams and crooks until it goes mainstream. A
payment system going mainstream doesn't reduce the number of scams
crooks using it. It actually dramatically increases the number. What
decreases is
Sounds like a fabulous idea .. .I'm in!
On a different note, I am starting an E-Gold
newsletter. I am aiming for a subscriber base
of about 2000, by the end of this month.
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In celebration of the first year of business as of today, Gold Today
is reducing it's service fee for transactions up to 1500USD by over 20%
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The service fee for ALL transactions is now just 7%. This includes all
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In celebration of the first year of business as of today, Gold Today
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The service fee for ALL transactions is now just 7%. This includes all
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We could always do what the post office does and create a program of
reporting suspicious out exchanges.
Anyone who outexchanges $3,000 should automatically become suspect.
Everyone knows that honest folks don't ever need to convert that much
E-Gold to cash.
Of course if someone does 2,999.99
Any payment system, not just electronic ones, that allows non-repudiable
payments will be fraught with scams and crooks until it goes mainstream. A
payment system going mainstream doesn't reduce the number of scams
crooks using it. It actually dramatically increases the number. What
decreases
and turn all Mms into kindergarten Cops.
What a joke!
MM
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Eric,
For market makers to try to become thought police does not do this.
Agreed. Unfortunately, Law Enforcement does not view it this way. The
act of completing an exchange for a criminal (even if you do not KNOW it
is a criminal) can be used against your business by Law Enforcement.
Viking Coder wrote:
Crooks are using e-gold for the exact same reason that legitimate user do.
The ability to do world-wide commerce without fear of the transaction
being cancelled. Legitimate users don't want to deal with fraudulent or
boucing payments while crooks don't want to deal with
We could always do what the post office does and create a program of
reporting suspicious out exchanges.
I will only accept your modest proposal if we can boil up irish babies for
dinner.
Viking Coder
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We could always do what the post office does and create a program of
reporting suspicious out exchanges.
I will only accept your modest proposal if we can boil up irish babies for
dinner.
a nice literary reference on the egold list!
Viking Coder
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Very cogent analysis. So, in view of this, what can be done to
differentiate
the crooks from the honest people? The difficulty arises because both
are
using the system in the same ways for superficially similar
purposes.
The
crooks hide in this ambiguity. But fundamentally there is
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Fantastic!
I had put my next order in already, does that qualify?
Cheers
Chuck.
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Date: Friday, July 6, 2001 10:30 am
Subject: [e-gold-list] Gold Today Reduces it's Fees!
In celebration of the first year of business
SnowDog wrote:
Very cogent analysis. So, in view of this, what can be done to
differentiate the crooks from the honest people? The difficulty
arises because both are using the system in the same ways for
superficially similar purposes. The crooks hide in this
ambiguity. But
Are there any market makers that accept Evocash? http://www.evocash.com/
I've had a couple of customer inquiries for marketmakes who take Evocash.
Thanks,
Ken
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Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 00:05:58 -0500 (CDT)
From: Bananagold Robot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Paul Ewing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: I placed my first order
Dear Paul Ewing,
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On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Paul Ewing wrote:
I just placed my first order ref #
A wire transfer fee to withdraw funds from Evocash is 20 USD within the
US and 42.50. international Excessive for a Market Maker.
Also it mentions an Internal Paritate Transfer. Is this associated
with the Paritate bank I wonder?
transferring between accounts is 1.8%. also excessive
Michael Moore wrote:
this has been an ongoing problem in commerce and banking and part of
the answer (not the right one perhaps) has been to introduce the 'know
your customer' policy. Unfortunately this also tends to cut across the
rights of the individual. So the problem is where do you
The problem:
a) If you do business with unidentified people, you can be dragged into
their crimes, you can be swindled, and you can help crime in general
prosper.
b) If you force identity and audit trail of all people, you leave people
no way to bypass pseudocrimes such as being unwilling to be
Certain slapheads on this list seem to be missing the main reason
that MMs will never be able to tell where e-gold originated from. It
is 100% instantly transferrable. If I set up an e-gold account and
swindle an old lady in Ohio while pretending to be a door-to-door
weather-vane salesman, I
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