the process is accelerating. Could we then label the USA federal,
state and
local governments as communist? If it walks like a duck
A lot of politicians here are closet Communists (they'd never admit it
publicly). Most are more socialist. I'd say the overall system here in
America is
Yes, but it seems so weird. Why is our XXI century life is still warlike?
Check out www.chaostan.com. I love this guy's worldview.
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Did you know that the new e-gold
Do you think that encouraging of buying gold is bad? I think gold is
better than dollar.
No it isn't bad!!! It's excellent! It is just very surprising given the
ideology behind the two countries.
It's not surprising at all.
Here's the plan:
They'll encourage citizens to buy gold. Gold
An interesting side note. On one of the tower computers that was
returned, I was locked out of the CMOS (apparently, they changed the
password
And of course, they somehow couldn't simply tell you what they changed it
to.
Petty stuff like this really underscores how childish and pathetic
Definition of upgrade: It worked before, and now it doesn't work.
Thanks, Hushmail.
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so called 'insider trading' is a consensual crime: like drug use,
there is no reason for it to be illegal.
I agree, but with one qualification: Sometimes insider trader involves the
breach of confidentiality in a situation where confidentiality is
contractually required. In those cases it is
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/brucebartlett/bb20010707.shtml
I think it was Johnathan Swift who said that a lot of really awful policies
stem from the belief the we need to do something.
How about returning to the gold standard and letting monetary policy sort
itself out with market
They get it by borrowing (assuming the exchange rates don't change
much).
In the short run they can do that, but if that were their long-term solution
it would be impossible to pay back those loans because, in the model I
presented--which is the model the protectionists accept--borrowing is
How would the general merchant feel if his customers are being showed
advertising while completing the spend process for his/her site?
In particular, how would he feel about his shopping cart containing an ad
for a direct competitor? Coke could advertise on Pepsi's shopping cart.
If the NRA
In particular, how would he feel about his shopping cart containing an ad
for a direct competitor? Coke could advertise on Pepsi's shopping cart.
This precisely and exactly happens right now.
(1) in a supermarket, the rolling-baskets have ads on them for Pepsi
-- even though Coke may be
Here's what I perceive to be the fundamental problem with this idea:
I order some widgets from Bob's Kickass Discount Widgets. Bob has paid for
the development and maintenance of his web site, and maybe he paid for some
television ads (very expensive) that got my attention and brought me to his
but he wouldn't have done that; he would have used banner ads on the
e-gold page, or, this mailing list.
that would have been a stupid business decision! :)
Lots of web sites use television advertising.
Is it because he runs a more efficient
business?
Yes - exactly! His
The spend confirmation page, because of the
way the SCI works, becomes an integral part of the merchant's
shopping cart,
NO --- A is A, the SCI is owned by Douglas Jackson's mind. It is
From a legal and software point of view, that's true. You and I think of
them as separate entities
Eventually they will all end up on the Jerry Springer show.
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Yours faithfully,
Chief Obi Williams
Imagine, scammers who are Star Wars fans !!!
You don't need to see my identification...
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Okay, true confession time. Who here has written a program that checks COMEX
against e-gold's price every sixty seconds and automatically buys/sells the
appropriate contract?
If no one has yet, I guarantee it's only a matter of time.
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Did Microsoft
save any money
by squashing Netscape? No, they both ended up giving away their browsers.
Millions of dollars in software development went down the drain with no
return, and the Justice Department broke up Microsoft to boot.
IE and other free (mwwwhahahahaha) software
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BTW, I have had no trouble normally withdrawing (lots, kilos) of gold
in and out of MS - although I have had to write to Erich each time.
If I'm not mistaken he's basically shutting down that service.
I did
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Subject: Charles Evans
I just heard about your lawsuit against Charles Evans. I have
been an enthusiastic supporter of e-gold since very nearly
I am quite possibly going to brand myself a pariah on this list by standing
up in favor of fractional reserve banking, though certainly not its current
incarnation.
There is nothing wrong with fractional reserves per se. The problem is the
incestuous relationship between the checking and the
You also don't have to worry about the merchant doing multiple spends, or
a spend greater than what you authorized, out of your account. You also
don't have to worry about somebody getting your card# and going wild with
it. This somebody could be the waiter at some restaurant or some random
I think the article is here
http://www.skolnicksreport.com/hoodwink.html
it's the 2nd last paragraph.
Everybody be sure to read (or at least skim) the rest of his web site. The
only thing missing are UFO abductions, black helicopters and credible
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I'm not exactly sure what you mean there. Someone had said AH HA!
there is no SPECIFIC! MEDIUM! to reach people who use US Dollars.
That statement is incorrect, since, 100% of people use US Dollars,
so, any medium works.
100% of people do *not* use US Dollars. Furthermore, in order to
To reach people who have US Dollars:
(i) advertise anywhere, on any medium.
Whatever and wherever the ad was, it would reach only _some_ users and be
unseen by most. It would suffer from the same weakness as an ad on a
market-maker's page.
Tried it extensively, more than anyone. A good
I read it, and found it shocking! Especially the part where they train /
indoctrinate their employees with an *angel* wanting to report
everyone, and
a *devil* wishing to give the benefit of the doubt! Surely the Christian
thing to do is to give a person the benefit of the doubt. To
think
As I recall, Jim Ray said a couple of years back that he thought the Seven
Deadly Sins (all of them vices, IMO) might be the key to promoting
e-gold--sloth, lust, greed, vanity, and so on. Wrath is one of them, and the
more e-gold grows, the more the banking system will feel my wrath.
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I'm still personally interested in somehow harnessing sloth. :^)
JMR
I have a few ideas on that front, but I'm too lazy to implement them.
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Won't it be great if there really is a hell?
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You should get the Landmark Legal Foundation involved in this. Even if you
don't need their help on the legal matter--and it sounds like you
don't--this is the kind of thing they should be aware of and that they
should write about on their web site. Landmark Legal reaches a lot of people
and has
Having just read all this stuff on the eCTA I am absolutely amazed how
many people just 'read into with deep significance' something other
than what is written.
What an amazingly hypocritical statement in light of the rest of your
hysterical ranting over absolutely nothing.
And Cult? I
The Ford Motor Corporation passively embraces running over and killing
small children by selling automobiles to people who might drive them while
extremely intoxicated!
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Here's a front-page headline I'd like to see in the Washington Post, NY
Times or other liberal propaganda sheet:
Allowing Private Citizens to Carry Dollar Bills Leads to Money-Laundering
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Kind of a strange quote since the act of laundering money is to
take 'dirty'
money and attempt to make it look like 'clean' money.
No. Money laundering means the unsupervised use of money.
Any ordinary citizen, completely uninvolved in any wrongdoing, can be
prosecuted for money laundering
Kind of a strange quote since the act of laundering money is to
take 'dirty'
money and attempt to make it look like 'clean' money. Since dirty money is
defined as money raised through illegal activity, then by saying
that money
laundering is a fundamental human right is to say that illegal
Yeah, yeah, I know, but this really sticks in my craw, and I'm not even sure
where exactly one's craw is.
http://www.insightmag.com/archive/200107033.shtml
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currency. E-gold's poor customer service policies make no difference to
the efficacy of the eCTA.
Oh, please!
I'm inclined to agree with what someone wrote earlier about e-gold probably
just wanting to have nothing to do with anything associated with OSGold.
Nonetheless, I feel kind of bad
Yep!
When Dubya was running for office I had a strong feeling that he would take
a sharp turn to the left once elected. I even told one of his gushing
supporters, Read my lips: Like father, like son.
It sucks to be right all the time.
Just wait until he raises the top marginal income tax rate
If so it has not generated the kind of account creation spikes
such things
have in the past;
Which means that the scammees didn't learn their lesson the first few
times around.
Fans of _The Simpsons_ may be reminded of the episode where Lisa does a
science fair experiment called Is My
1. I promise to operate in an honest and ethical manner.
Such as refusing to promote guaranteed high-yield investment programs?
6. I promise to support my fellow members in adversity to the best of my
ability
That's mighty nebulous!
7. I promise to maintain my allegiance to the
You are 100% right with e-mail. The problem is how do we get the
uninformed of the world to not be so dumb as to answer this
official (at least looking) notice? There was a case in NYC
area where somebody put a sign up on the ATM that is was out of
order, and to place your deposits in
| Like I said, you have to open an attachment or voluntarily run
an executable
| in order to get a trojan. No one can just push one onto your
machine. So
...unless there's a buffer overrun that can be exploited, in your
web browser,
FTP application, telnet, ICQ etc.
If this is true and
Just heard on the news. On averege
*ONE PERCENT*
of the recommendations made by Wall St. analysts is correct in direction.
I'm always highly skeptical of reports like that. Who arrived at that
statistic and how?
In an efficient market like the stock market it is impossible to beat
I was a little surprised to see you write this.
Why stop at E-Gold sites? Lots of people use the same passphrase (password
in many sad cases) for all their e-mail accounts, their work login, their
online bank accounts, and so on and so forth. Should my regular ISP's e-mail
server try to log in
Try the first two test on this page. I am not sure if they are
evidence. But you will get something on your system without
opening an attachement...
http://www.finjan.com/mcrc/test.cfm
Both tests asked me if I wanted to install and run some executable code on
my machine. We software
We are all adults. I
think the exact analogy in the real world is a restaurant or similar
which puts up signs stating things like
Bag snatchers operate in this area. Please do not leave your bag
unattended
or
Please be careful of your valuables while in this shop, as thefts do
occur!
e-gold
is like gold. It's apolitical stuff, just a currency!
I respectfully disagree.
Currency is about as political as one can get. Manipulating the currency
system is a purely political process, every move made for political, not
economic, reasons.
An apolitical currency is kind of like
I think the way to win over socialists is to have them look
closely at what
banks bank-alternatives like check-cashing places charge poor people.
Of course, then we're still dealing with trying to get them to understand
market economics, which is back to the original problem..
I come
The key word here is willing. If technology produces
convenience at the
expense of liberty, then the average joe is *willing* to sacrifice a
little liberty for a little convenience.
the two things are mutually exclusive and not related.
Technology, ie human invention, never reduces
I trust in God and the universe to
make things right.
You'll think otherwise when you're older.
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The US legal system throws more people in jail than in any other
country of the world, yet the US crime rates are some of the
highest too. So harsh punishments don't work.
As has been pointed out, most of them are there for victimless crimes.
As to whether harsh punishments work to deter
You can only obtain info on this software if you send them a request on
your agency letterhead. The only reason this is lawful is that they are
selling it to the people who make the laws.
Just make up an agency. I bet they'll never know the difference.
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I'd love to move to Singapore, but my wife won't have it.
For one thing, they know how to treat vandals there.
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It takes up no
system resources, i.e. undetectable from a software viewpoint,
_No_ system resources? Nice work if you can get it. How is this possible?
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This is utter, total bullshit.
What a heap of shit.
There is no question that heap of gold (what a fucking name), were
a bunch of fucking sloppy losers.
It's appalling that anyone who is such a pile of slop could dare to
say they are in business, far less exchanging money for gold.
I've held my tongue on this one long enough and can't stand it any more!
A non-reputable currency is a currency that is untrustworthy. A
non-repudiable currency is one for which transactions cannot be reversed.
repudiable \Re*pudi*a*ble\ (r?-p?d?-?-b'l), a. [See Repudiate.] Admitting
of
No one expects the phone company to connect you in 5 minutes.
Similarly, customers expectations should not run to minutes or hours
to sell shit credit card money for gold money.
If my local phone company were not a government-created monopoly I most
certainly _would_ expect them to be able
Is a gram of e-gold worth less or more than a
goldgrams because the titles to the grams are held by the trust
instead of the user? or because e-gold servers are in the USA
instead of being offshore ?
That has always bothered me too. I wouldn't park an expensive car in a
neighborhood ruled by
Yeah, but if a trojan is written to send everything back to the thief, it
will certainly be noticed. The user's computer will only run HALF as fast
and the thief will be overloaded with data.
If I were to turn to the dark side, I'd write a Trojan horse that just logs
the stuff locally and
Got a question for those running businesses, most especially those running
E-Gold-only businesses. How are you handling the capital gains tax? Has
anyone written any kind of specialized software to help with cap-gain
recordkeeping in the E-Gold system? It seems to me capital gains
calculations
Treat e-gold like a foreign currency. With each transaction is an exchange
rate. You can use the amount of gold, and the exchange rate to get a US
dollar equivalent for each transaction in your accounting system.
That's how I'd love to do it, but I'm not sure the IRS would approve.
Suppose,
Yep, I bought _How to Steal Food from the Supermarket_, the book that
promises to teach you how to purloin some sirloin, how to poach eggs.
Okay, not very libertarian, but highly entertaining.
one person has already gotten $50 worth of free stuff -- TWO MORE
FREE ORDERS TO GO.
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I don't see what the problem is unless you can't figure out the
tax code.
According to the General Accounting Office, the IRS can't figure out the tax
code!
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Saying log in number! is no different from saying password!.
It's just A LONGER PASSWORD.
It means absolutely nothing.
Are we learning yet?
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I WAS HIT BY A TROJAN VIRUS
is equivalent to saying
I UNFORTUNATELY KNOW NEXT-TO-NOTHING ABOUT COMPUTERS
Everybody go back and reread that about twenty times.
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1) A 10-digit number assigned by CompuBank, which was NOT your account
number, and which only the customer knew.
2) A Password of the customer's choosing.
3) A Secret Code, (another Password)
4) A wire code, (another Password)
5) An accurate answer to a
A Trojan Horse can be implemented in your system without
your opening any attachment. It can be installed as a result
of accessing a malicious website.
I'm tempted to say Poppycock, but I suppose there could be some remaining
bug in the Windoze Explorer that will let it happen. I'll believe
I am not aguing that it's not possible, but it's not likely, and every
change makes it more difficult for a scammer. Ideally, a system
designed to
allow the user to select his security methods would be best of
all, because
then the scammers would not be able to trick users into revealing
My question was aimed to towards an offline POS module. It would be like
the card swiping terminals you see at the grocery store, gas station,
etc... Is anybody working on something like that?
There's the WAP interface, but that has obvious limitations.
It seems to me that one of the
It seems to me that one of the problems with a POS machine is
that the payer
would have to type his password into a machine belonging to
someone else.
It wouldn't be any different than accessing your account from somewhere
other than your personal, at-home computer.
It depends. Using
Unbelievable!
As a public service to all the potential scam victims out there, I can
provide a service that will tell you if your password has been compromised.
Just e-mail me your account number and password, and I'll tell you if your
account has been compromised.
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Enemy of my enemy,
and don't look gift horses in the mouth. For the moment at least.
Agreed. Dubya is at least good enough for government work, as my dad used
to say.
Every year hundreds of people hurt themselves tripping over shoelaces that
aren't properly tied. If Algore had been elected
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You don't need to prove identity
to create an e-gold account. However, Omnipay has decided that before they
will exchange large amounts of gold for fiat cash they will know who you
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Does this mean that if I want to redeem a 400 oz. bar of gold (if I have
that much in my e-gold account) I don't need to prove identity?
You don't do redemptions through Omnipay.
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Esguerra
So let's all be careful to compare only apples to apples when
talking about
what's a realistic ROI for HYIPs. One where you just send the
money and
get a fantastic return
I wish them luck. They'll need it.
On the tax front, I have no hope that Americans will ever again pay less
than 50% of our income to the government (when you figure _all_ the taxes
you pay, not just income tax). That, however, does not mean that I am
pessimistic--I still hold out hope that
In a past life I was a Registered Rep, i.e. a stockbroker, and it was
_illegal_ for me to use the G-word in reference to an investment.
Ordinarily I'm against government regulation of the securities industry, but
I do think a legitimate function of government is to protect people against
theft,
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Oh, but Sam! You're missing a point about High-Yield Investments. HYIPs on
the internet, these days, pay 18% per MONTH.
Oh, you cynic! Next you'll be telling me there's no Easter Bunny.
Some so-called HYIPs I've seen require the investor to sell stuff, and
some of them sound like a lot of hard work. In light of that, if %50 percent
return on the investment in a month sound ludicrous, consider my
investment of about $10 a week that I paid in automobile expenses when I
got my
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Don't take my word. Check it out. I set up Turbodollars and now I
am using
the G word in reference.
Just skimming the FAQ raises a few alarming red flags.
Most notably,
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A smart idea, but, you would never in a thousand trillion years be
able to insure a group of customers against incompetently having
their passwords stolen.
The premiums would be
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PayPal has all of their accounts covered for up to $100,000 for breech of
security. The insurance company is listed on their website.
PayPal also freezes accounts arbitrarily--making its
You're talking about creating a fraud investigation deptartment within
E-Gold to protect those who are careless with their passwords.
TANSTAAFL.
If E-Gold creates an investigative arm, who will pay for the additional
cost? Those of us who are _not_ careless with our passwords, that's who.
If
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I would have expected a modicum
of critical discernment from the Economist.
I once subscribed to _The Economist_ but did not renew my subscription when
it ran out. I expected it to be
What? I can't subscribe to _Swank_ there? ;p
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On another subject, it may be a good idea for e-gold to establish two
different types of account number for a single account. One (probably our
current account numbers) public number for people to make payments to, and
another independently derived private account number that we tell nobody,
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This has to be taken with a grain of salt: if you sell some stock
to pay for a house addition, the stock sale is not counted as
income, by the US government, but the house addition is counted as
spending.
It depends on which government
I try to avoid reading these postings but couldn't resist skimming the
latest thread and hit upon a comment about E-Gold somehow being responsible
for scams. I'd just like to ask one rhetorical question directed at no one
in particular.
If E-Gold is in any way responsible for any scam that uses
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Hettinga
At 9:05 AM -0400 on 4/29/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Someone describe me the situation.
The Secret Service confiscated their computers.
Ask *them* for your money?
:-/.
Cheers,
Does anybody here have domains registered at domains.jhcloos.com? It seems
to have been down for a long time, and when I send the guy e-mail I get no
response.
This was one of the best e-gold services out there, and I'd really like to
see it up and running again.
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"Sidd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What if when you went to the bank there was NO people for you to talk
to,
for problem resolution ?
What if the bank personnel were discourtious, unfriendly, gruff,
unconcerned ?
hmmm, this sounds like my bank
Are you sure you didn't walk into
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