Re: [Emc-users] New Tajectory Planner

2014-05-14 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Tue, 13 May 2014 22:24:35 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: For me the important part would be the line line paths when using 4 axis. Any code I have that uses arcs is much simpler and runs fine with the old planner. The old planner is rubbish on arc to line and line to arc transitions. Don't know if

Re: [Emc-users] I have the shaft extension for the x screw 1/2 done.

2014-05-14 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Tue, 13 May 2014 15:14:53 -0400, you wrote: As I need every mm of that screw I can salvage, I am thinking of boring a pocket in the inside end of the bearing boss end that fits the OD of the screw, close enough I might have to drive it in. Then turning a pipe taper thread on the OD for a

Re: [Emc-users] Start program with external button

2014-05-14 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2014-05-14 0:57 GMT+03:00 Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net: Hmm. Didn't know you could net more than one per line. You can do it in one line or break it up (for me breaking up is easier to understand, when I need to go through HAL file few months later), for example, net run-file

Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] New Tajectory Planner

2014-05-14 Thread andy pugh
On 14 May 2014 02:04, Robert Ellenberg rwe...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't done much with blending over the ABC / UVW axes since I last looked at it. The method I had planned to use would work well for line-line blends, but not blends involving arcs. This isn't currently a problem unless you

Re: [Emc-users] OT: need some advice

2014-05-14 Thread andy pugh
On 14 May 2014 02:12, Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosow...@gmail.com wrote: His point is that you are making this complicated by trying to cut both sides at once Maybe, but it will be more efficient to make two narrow saw cuts than to turn all the excess into chippings. The waste material might

Re: [Emc-users] OT: need some advice

2014-05-14 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2014-05-14 2:20 GMT+03:00 Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com: Instead of driving the boards on their edges, drive on the broad surface with rollers like a surface planer. Well, they already are driven on the board surfaces with rollers like a surface planer, because my machine will actually

Re: [Emc-users] I have the shaft extension for the x screw 1/2 done.

2014-05-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 14 May 2014 02:46:26 Steve Blackmore did opine And Gene did reply: On Tue, 13 May 2014 15:14:53 -0400, you wrote: As I need every mm of that screw I can salvage, I am thinking of boring a pocket in the inside end of the bearing boss end that fits the OD of the screw, close enough

Re: [Emc-users] I have the shaft extension for the x screw 1/2 done.

2014-05-14 Thread Mark Wendt
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 4:59 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: A simple sleeve glued on will work for a ball screw extension. It will hold FAR greater than what a wimpy stepper is ever going to achieve to break it. Just use correct glue. BTW - super glue is wrong

Re: [Emc-users] I have the shaft extension for the x screw 1/2 done.

2014-05-14 Thread andy pugh
On 14 May 2014 09:59, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Ok, so name the Right Stuff(TM). Loctite 640 sounds about right: http://www.henkelna.com/product-search-1554.htm?nodeid=8797924524033 -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto

Re: [Emc-users] 5i24?

2014-05-14 Thread Viesturs Lācis
I finally received 5i24 board, but I am stucj at getting LinuxCNC to cooperate with it. I have 2.7.0-pre0.43... and I am getting an error: Debug file information: ... insmod: error inserting '/usr/realtime-2.6.32-122-rtai/modules/linuxcnc/hm2_pci.ko': -1 No such device hm2-servo.hal:58: exit

Re: [Emc-users] Start program with external button

2014-05-14 Thread Erik Friesen
I have found myself wishing I could insert c snippets somehow, to me it is would be way easier that manually figuring out the logic. It gets very hard to follow three or more logic items that work together. For example, it takes quite a few to make a run/resume switch. On Wed, May 14, 2014 at

Re: [Emc-users] I have the shaft extension for the x screw 1/2 done.

2014-05-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 14 May 2014 05:54:01 Mark Wendt did opine And Gene did reply: On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 4:59 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: A simple sleeve glued on will work for a ball screw extension. It will hold FAR greater than what a wimpy stepper is ever going to achieve to

Re: [Emc-users] I have the shaft extension for the x screw 1/2 done.

2014-05-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 14 May 2014 06:09:00 andy pugh did opine And Gene did reply: On 14 May 2014 09:59, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Ok, so name the Right Stuff(TM). Loctite 640 sounds about right: http://www.henkelna.com/product-search-1554.htm?nodeid=8797924524033 That reads pretty

Re: [Emc-users] I have the shaft extension for the x screw 1/2 done.

2014-05-14 Thread Mark Wendt
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: There's a Loc-Tite designed just for that kinda stuff. I forget which number it is, but it's in the 600 series. Depends on the fit of the parts, whether loose or tight. Mark I'll go trolling thru their site see

Re: [Emc-users] Start program with external button

2014-05-14 Thread andy pugh
On 14 May 2014 13:10, Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net wrote: I have found myself wishing I could insert c snippets somehow, to me it is would be way easier that manually figuring out the logic. You can write user-defined components in C. The problem with C-snippets is that you would be

Re: [Emc-users] Start program with external button

2014-05-14 Thread Kip Shaffer
Erik, While not exactly what you are looking for, you can use C snippets to create brand new HAL components. I created a couple myself, one to bring 16 inputs and 16 outputs to a set of external shift registers for expanded IO capabilities, and one to generate blink codes for a status LED. I

Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] New Tajectory Planner

2014-05-14 Thread Todd Zuercher
Since I don't really know the math involved, I guess I don't really understand the problem. I definitely don't have any grasp of the programming difficulties. But from the surface to me I don't see why the blending of movements from X-Y should be any different than U-V, U-Y, or X-V and I

Re: [Emc-users] 5i24?

2014-05-14 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 14 May 2014, Viesturs L?cis wrote: Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 06:54:46 -0400 From: [UTF-8] Viesturs L?cis viesturs.la...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-users] Start program with external button

2014-05-14 Thread John Alexander Stewart
I know it's not perfect, but as I have run out of inputs on my mill, I have an Arduino in the mail that will allow me to send keyboard commands with button presses - I have to be running Axis, but from there, I think I can control my mill with this Arduino. Most arduinos do not allow keyboard

Re: [Emc-users] OT: need some advice

2014-05-14 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 4:47 AM, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: Current 3D model looks like this: http://picpaste.com/model-XeiYl0y4.PNG I do not really agree that cutting both sides at once is more complicated. Having 2 jointers and then feeder system for both of them and

Re: [Emc-users] Feed control

2014-05-14 Thread a k
Hi about that link http://www.ebay.com/itm/12mm-Rotary-Encoder-Switch-Flat-Top-Knob-NEW-/201087207672?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2ed1bb48f8 it show encoders. we talk about board THCAD-10 to convert 0 =5 V into signal that will be connected to A signal of encoder on emc2. why do i need encoder?

Re: [Emc-users] Start program with external button

2014-05-14 Thread andy pugh
On 14 May 2014 17:54, John Alexander Stewart ivatt...@gmail.com wrote: know it's not perfect, but as I have run out of inputs on my mill, You could matrix-wire the buttons, would that help? They don't have to be physically in a matrix, just logically.

Re: [Emc-users] Feed control

2014-05-14 Thread andy pugh
On 14 May 2014 20:00, a k pccncmach...@gmail.com wrote: we talk about board THCAD-10 to convert 0 =5 V into signal that will be connected to A signal of encoder on emc2. why do i need encoder? If you want an adjustable knob as an input to LinuxCNC then an encoder is easier. You haven't said

Re: [Emc-users] Feed control

2014-05-14 Thread a k
Hi right now i want to solve problem to connect THCAD-10 to EMC2 and all HAL code. what is source of 0+5V dc - it will be generated by current or welding MIG type of machine. I want to build CNC operated welding machine. example my welder has 200amp max so 0 amp --= 100% feed and 200 amp --= 0%

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle-at-speed, etc

2014-05-14 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 05/10/2014 07:46 PM, Erik Friesen wrote: I would like my machine to not only wait for the spindle to come up to speed, but have it stop if the vfd has an error. I am reading the analog output from the vfd. I have looked at using Spindle-at-speed, but it only appears to check at the start

[Emc-users] axes definition

2014-05-14 Thread rayj
Greetings, Can anyone point me to a good diagram or description of the 9 axes and their typical uses? I get x,y,z,and a, but from there I can't find any clear diagrams. I'm guessing they would be defined 1 way in a CNC center and differently in controlling the motion of a robotic arm. Just

Re: [Emc-users] axes definition

2014-05-14 Thread Stuart Stevenson
A verbal description may help. the axis labels are just that labels you may name them anything you want the most usual is as follows XYZ The three linear axes orthogonal (square) to one another ABC The A axis rotates around the X axis The B axis rotates around the Y axis The C

Re: [Emc-users] axes definition

2014-05-14 Thread sam sokolik
UVW Secondary XYZ axes usually pointing in the direction of the tool...Lets say you have a drill on the end of a robot arm.. You have it in some odd orientation.How do you figure out how to drill the hole? The kinematics can be setup so that uvw are along the tool. Drill a hole?

[Emc-users] Progress, sorta

2014-05-14 Thread Gene Heskett
I have the extension with its imitation pipe thread all made except for the boring of a 13mm deep 9.25mm hole in the end for the screw to be inserted into. And of coarse its not slit yet, tomorrows project. I also have a round nut made, using the same thread taper, which will screw onto the

Re: [Emc-users] axes definition

2014-05-14 Thread rayj
Thanks, that makes it clear in the machining environment. Is there a similar standard in the control of robotic arms? Raymond Julian Kettle River, MN The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our

Re: [Emc-users] axes definition

2014-05-14 Thread andy pugh
On 15 May 2014 00:17, rayj raymo...@frontiernet.net wrote: Is there a similar standard in the control of robotic arms? It is the same there. (Or it can be). XYZ is end-effector point in space (room coordinates). ABC are end-effector angles UVW (could) be ways to define moves in end-effector

Re: [Emc-users] axes definition

2014-05-14 Thread rayj
Raymond Julian Kettle River, MN The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system. And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness, egotism and self-interest are the traits

Re: [Emc-users] axes definition

2014-05-14 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Joint space is the physical movement of the machine components. Cartesian space perfect theoretical XYZ space sitting on the machine table It is the desired path of the tool (end effector). With a robot you can move the joints but a single joint movement likely would not give you the tool motion

Re: [Emc-users] axes definition

2014-05-14 Thread rayj
I understand Cartesian and Polar coordinate systems. I'm looking for the actual method of deriving the commands that need to be sent to the motor (assuming the motor shaft is the axis of rotation for the arm segment under discussion). Example: you want to move the tip of the mill in a

Re: [Emc-users] Progress, sorta

2014-05-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 14 May 2014 18:59:15 Gene Heskett did opine And Gene did reply: I have the extension with its imitation pipe thread all made except for the boring of a 13mm deep 9.25mm hole in the end for the screw to be inserted into. And of coarse its not slit yet, tomorrows project(s). I

Re: [Emc-users] axes definition

2014-05-14 Thread rayj
On 05/14/2014 09:43 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 8:31 PM, rayj raymo...@frontiernet.net wrote: I understand Cartesian and Polar coordinate systems. I'm looking for the actual method of deriving the commands that need to be sent to the motor (assuming the motor shaft

Re: [Emc-users] axes definition

2014-05-14 Thread Ralph Stirling
G-code *is* how you specify your Cartesian motion. Kinematics converts that to motions of each joint or axis. -- Ralph rayj raymo...@frontiernet.net wrote: On 05/14/2014 09:43 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 8:31 PM, rayj raymo...@frontiernet.net wrote: I understand

Re: [Emc-users] axes definition

2014-05-14 Thread rayj
Raymond Julian Kettle River, MN The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system. And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness, egotism and self-interest are the traits

Re: [Emc-users] axes definition

2014-05-14 Thread Ralph Stirling
Ray, I think it would be best for you to spend some time reading through LinuxCNC documentation. There are quite a few excellent manuals on the entire set of software, from G-code interpreter all the way to axis movement. Here are some suggested starting points: kinematics:

Re: [Emc-users] axes definition

2014-05-14 Thread rayj
On 05/14/2014 10:59 PM, Ralph Stirling wrote: Ray, I think it would be best for you to spend some time reading through LinuxCNC documentation. There are quite a few excellent manuals on the entire set of software, from G-code interpreter all the way to axis movement. Here are some

Re: [Emc-users] axes definition

2014-05-14 Thread TJoseph Powderly
On 05/14/2014 04:48 PM, rayj wrote: Greetings, Can anyone point me to a good diagram or description of the 9 axes and their typical uses? I get x,y,z,and a, but from there I can't find any clear diagrams. I'm guessing they would be defined 1 way in a CNC center and differently in