Re: [Emc-users] New Spindle working.

2020-07-16 Thread John Dammeyer
> > And that makes sense in a weird way. If you don't want motion until > > the spindle is stopped completely then green when requested speed is > > zero is technically correct. > > > And here I have been plotting how to make it red when stopped. But you > are right. Green means its safe too. I

Re: [Emc-users] New Spindle working.

2020-07-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 17 July 2020 02:14:20 John Dammeyer wrote: > > Just to be PC about it, I'd edit the xml so that the > > spindle-at-speed was green when good. Red when not. > > > > Yah, I know, picky picky. ;-) > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > Actually you could almost call that a spelling mistake. It'

Re: [Emc-users] New Spindle working.

2020-07-16 Thread John Dammeyer
> > Just to be PC about it, I'd edit the xml so that the spindle-at-speed was > green when good. Red when not. > > Yah, I know, picky picky. ;-) > > Cheers, Gene Heskett Actually you could almost call that a spelling mistake. It's green when up to speed. Red when not. And of course since t

Re: [Emc-users] New Spindle working.

2020-07-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 17 July 2020 00:06:25 John Dammeyer wrote: > Quick addendum to this subject. I found the parameter for the > Bergerda AC Servo that dictates acceleration with the 0V-10V input. > I've changed it so it takes 1.8 seconds to go from 3000 RPM to 0 RPM. > Now with an S3000 M3 and then an

Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate?

2020-07-16 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
That's a point in favor for discreet components and standard ICs over special/custom ICs. Very little worry about having to alter a design or things becoming unfixable due to a fancy chip being discontinued. I forget how many $K I was quoted from a manufacturer to pop out one new late 90's vint

[Emc-users] Business closings Re: Retrofit Candidate?

2020-07-16 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
It's really put a pinch on the barbecue restaurant I'd like to go to again if I ever get back to the southeast. Sticky Fingers Ribhouse had been up to 11 or 12 locations but after the 2009 recession and now COVID-19 they're down to three. Any of y'all near Chattanooga, Greenville, or Charleston,

Re: [Emc-users] Because the hardware store was 4 miles away...

2020-07-16 Thread Sam Sokolik
some close up-ish with slow mo... https://youtu.be/_S_bGAuTN0s On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 3:13 AM andy pugh wrote: > (Off topic, but interesting) > > On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 at 02:11, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users > wrote: > > > > Used to be mechanical drive attachments for some lathes to move the >

Re: [Emc-users] New Spindle working.

2020-07-16 Thread John Dammeyer
Quick addendum to this subject. I found the parameter for the Bergerda AC Servo that dictates acceleration with the 0V-10V input. I've changed it so it takes 1.8 seconds to go from 3000 RPM to 0 RPM. Now with an S3000 M3 and then an M5 it slows down much better. And at the other end for ac

Re: [Emc-users] question on tooth size vs 3d pulleys

2020-07-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 16 July 2020 23:17:00 Thaddeus Waldner wrote: > It is unlikely to be nylon simply because it would be a poor choice > for a “first print.” > > Nylon is highly hygroscopic and needs to be be dried before printing. > In some environments it will absorb enough moisture in a day to make >

Re: [Emc-users] question on tooth size vs 3d pulleys

2020-07-16 Thread Thaddeus Waldner
It is unlikely to be nylon simply because it would be a poor choice for a “first print.” Nylon is highly hygroscopic and needs to be be dried before printing. In some environments it will absorb enough moisture in a day to make it unprintable. It also has a thermal expansion coefficient that is

Re: [Emc-users] New Spindle working.

2020-07-16 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 02:44, John Dammeyer wrote: > > > The stuff that uses the limit2 was cut and pasted from a web page. I > > never expected it to work first time. > ... > > net spindle-cmd <= motion.spindle-speed-out => spindle-ramp.in > ...

Re: [Emc-users] question on tooth size vs 3d pulleys

2020-07-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 16 July 2020 20:25:40 Frank Tkalcevic wrote: > It took me a while to find the right settings for my printer - in fact > it was more about finding a decent priced, decent quality filament. > (eSun seems to be the best in my neck of the woods). > Not seen any eSun here. I bought two kg's

Re: [Emc-users] question on tooth size vs 3d pulleys

2020-07-16 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
It took me a while to find the right settings for my printer - in fact it was more about finding a decent priced, decent quality filament. (eSun seems to be the best in my neck of the woods). Hair can be removed with a quick blast with a gas torch, although I'm surprised this is an issue as the

Re: [Emc-users] question on tooth size vs 3d pulleys

2020-07-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 16 July 2020 18:21:28 Frank Tkalcevic wrote: > > So what I'm asking is, has anyone printed a pulley > > that fits & works with these smaller, finer toothed belts? > > I use GT 2mm, 20 and 40 tooth pulleys on my robot arm. Printed on a > Prusa i3 Mk2.5, 0.4mm nozzle, PLA. PLA is fine

Re: [Emc-users] usb lpt with anti-jitter

2020-07-16 Thread N
PWM timers in Micro controller trigger interrupt and write value from shadow registers periodically. With this method there may be jitter from higher priority interrupts, maybe a similar technique could be used? > On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 15:44, Thomas J Powderly wrote: > > > they say they addre

Re: [Emc-users] question on tooth size vs 3d pulleys

2020-07-16 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
> So what I'm asking is, has anyone printed a pulley > that fits & works with these smaller, finer toothed belts? I use GT 2mm, 20 and 40 tooth pulleys on my robot arm. Printed on a Prusa i3 Mk2.5, 0.4mm nozzle, PLA. PLA is fine - other plastics may have shrinkage problems.

Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate?

2020-07-16 Thread Scott Harwell via Emc-users
I don't know why the link didn't come through. See "samcoinc" YouTube or this sight. Scott On Thursday, July 16, 2020, 2:54:52 PM CDT, Stuart Stevenson wrote: The blue Cincinnati at MPM with LinuxCNC had a nameplate electric requirement of 125 amps @ 480. We measured it frequently for

Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate?

2020-07-16 Thread Stuart Stevenson
The blue Cincinnati at MPM with LinuxCNC had a nameplate electric requirement of 125 amps @ 480. We measured it frequently for a while after we first got it. I never saw it draw more than 15 amps. Just because the plate says it has to have X amount of electric service doesn't mean it will pull that

Re: [Emc-users] question on tooth size vs 3d pulleys

2020-07-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 16 July 2020 09:55:36 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 16 July 2020 08:19:26 Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greets all; > > > > How fine a tooth pattern have you managed to use as pulleys, made by > > a 3d printer? > > > > I've got some of the motors that were used in the early 5.25" floppy

Re: [Emc-users] usb lpt with anti-jitter

2020-07-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 16 July 2020 12:04:49 John Dammeyer wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Thomas J Powderly [mailto:tjt...@gmail.com] > > Sent: July-16-20 7:42 AM > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: [Emc-users] usb lpt with anti-jitter > > > > theres a group in poland that h

Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate?

2020-07-16 Thread Scott Harwell via Emc-users
This is the same control the Yaskawa drives may be newer. Matsuura linuxcnc conversion.. axis moving, spindle hooked up | | | | | | | | | | | Matsuura linuxcnc conversion.. axis moving, spindle hooked up | | | Sam has done this.  It looks clean and you do want the head block

[Emc-users] Relative and Absolute Arc Centers?

2020-07-16 Thread Todd Zuercher
I know Linuxcnc has G-codes for settings to allow it to use either relative or absolute arc center coordinates (G90.1,G91.1). Anyone know if is possible to configure a Fanuc machine to use absolute arc centers ala G90.1 or is a Fanuc control stuck with only using relative I,J,K positions? If i

Re: [Emc-users] usb lpt with anti-jitter

2020-07-16 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 15:44, Thomas J Powderly wrote: > they say they address the latency issues with special tech "The output is buffered, which allows for stable operation of the motors. The readout of the input states is performed after each input change, not more frequently than every 20ms.

Re: [Emc-users] usb lpt with anti-jitter

2020-07-16 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 17:08, John Dammeyer wrote: > And actually now that I think about it is there any reason the regular > parallel port can't be used along side a MESA 7i92H? To provide a third port? None at all. You could even hook a Pico PPMC to the parport and run it alongside the 7i92.

Re: [Emc-users] another vmc project

2020-07-16 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/16/2020 10:11 AM, lloyd wilson wrote: I've recently acquired another controller transplant candidate, a mid/late 80s Bridgeport 520 vmc. The old girl uses Fanuc DC (yellow cap) axis servos and drives, spindle is also Fanuc. I hope to keep the Fanuc servo drives, but so far, I haven't be

Re: [Emc-users] usb lpt with anti-jitter

2020-07-16 Thread John Dammeyer
> -Original Message- > From: Thomas J Powderly [mailto:tjt...@gmail.com] > Sent: July-16-20 7:42 AM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: [Emc-users] usb lpt with anti-jitter > > theres a group in poland that have a usb to lpt product for linuxcnc > > http://machmaker.pl/ind

Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate?

2020-07-16 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 13:35, Todd Zuercher wrote: > For those who couldn't open the original link the same machine is also > advertised on Ebay (but at a higher price on the seller's home site it is > $2500). For $10,000 I would have to think long and hard. For $2500, if I had the space, it w

[Emc-users] another vmc project

2020-07-16 Thread lloyd wilson
I've recently acquired another controller transplant candidate, a mid/late 80s Bridgeport 520 vmc. The old girl  uses Fanuc DC (yellow cap) axis servos and drives, spindle is also Fanuc. I hope to keep the Fanuc servo drives, but so far, I haven't been able to locate any documents that spec the

Re: [Emc-users] question on tooth size vs 3d pulleys

2020-07-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 16 July 2020 10:12:17 Thomas J Powderly wrote: > Gene > > does this > > On 7/16/20 8:55 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 16 July 2020 08:19:26 Gene Heskett wrote: > >> Greets all; > > --snip--- > > for the enders simple mind. > > --snip--- > > >> Cheers, Gene Heskett > >

Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate?

2020-07-16 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/16/2020 07:19 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: No it doesn't' have a Fanuc control, it is a Yaznac with all Yaskawa drives and motors. Excellent! Yaskawa makes documentation on older products available. There's a good chance it uses analog velocity commands (+/- 10 V). If so, all the drives

Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate?

2020-07-16 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/16/2020 12:39 AM, Bari wrote: The pandemic has killed lots of businesses. 1 out of 4 businesses near me are closing for good. I expect to see deals for the next year at least on just about everything. An auction of electronic assembly gear just closed in Austin, TX yesterday. I got

Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate?

2020-07-16 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/15/2020 11:32 PM, Thaddeus Waldner wrote: Some of those large, high-end Japanese names have temperature sensors installed throughout the frame, which they use to compensate for thermal expansion. I doubt this machine has that, but it does look like it has a spindle cooler hanging on the

[Emc-users] usb lpt with anti-jitter

2020-07-16 Thread Thomas J Powderly
theres a group in poland that have a usb to lpt product for linuxcnc http://machmaker.pl/index.php?p=1_13 they say they address the latency issues with special tech """ It uses special mechanisms that allow stable and reliable work even with a computer that has high delay values ​​(Jitter) up

Re: [Emc-users] SPAM: Re: Retrofit Candidate?

2020-07-16 Thread Thomas J Powderly
Ive bought 2 machines from HGR. You have to go there and look.( its worth it to see the robot graveyard) I have always been allowed tp open cabinets and shift around stuff on my own. No tools allowed untill you agree to buy. I was able to leave parts I didnt want ( controls, pumps. tanks ),

Re: [Emc-users] question on tooth size vs 3d pulleys

2020-07-16 Thread Thomas J Powderly
Gene does this On 7/16/20 8:55 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 16 July 2020 08:19:26 Gene Heskett wrote: Greets all; --snip--- for the enders simple mind. --snip--- Cheers, Gene Heskett refer to a lack of loops, o-words, python? interesting thought for a very repetive mac

Re: [Emc-users] question on tooth size vs 3d pulleys

2020-07-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 16 July 2020 08:19:26 Gene Heskett wrote: > Greets all; > > How fine a tooth pattern have you managed to use as pulleys, made by a > 3d printer? > > I've got some of the motors that were used in the early 5.25" floppy > drives, 6 wire 12 volt. and all those leftover drivers from junkin

Re: [Emc-users] SPAM: Re: Retrofit Candidate?

2020-07-16 Thread Todd Zuercher
For those not familiar with the seller HGR, they are pretty much a giant industrial junk yard. They are the ones who go to all of the all the factory closing auctions and buy every thing that no one else bids on. Their property is an enormous mostly abandoned warehouse near Cleavland, Oh. The

Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate?

2020-07-16 Thread Todd Zuercher
For those who couldn't open the original link the same machine is also advertised on Ebay (but at a higher price on the seller's home site it is $2500). https://www.ebay.com/itm/MORI-SEIKI-MV45-40-MORI-SEIKI-MV45-40-CNC-VMC-18-x-47-0120091/264623167442?hash=item3d9cc517d2:g:svEAAOSwh~peOZde

Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate?

2020-07-16 Thread Todd Zuercher
No it doesn't' have a Fanuc control, it is a Yaznac with all Yaskawa drives and motors. Todd Zuercher P. Graham Dunn Inc. 630 Henry Street  Dalton, Ohio 44618 Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031 -Original Message- From: Jon Elson Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 5:46 PM To: Enhanced Machine C

[Emc-users] question on tooth size vs 3d pulleys

2020-07-16 Thread Gene Heskett
Greets all; How fine a tooth pattern have you managed to use as pulleys, made by a 3d printer? I've got some of the motors that were used in the early 5.25" floppy drives, 6 wire 12 volt. and all those leftover drivers from junking the ones that came with the 6040 mill and the so-called 24 vol

Re: [Emc-users] New Spindle working.

2020-07-16 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 02:44, John Dammeyer wrote: > The stuff that uses the limit2 was cut and pasted from a web page. I never > expected it to work first time. ... > net spindle-cmd <= motion.spindle-speed-out => spindle-ramp.in ... > The error message is that motion.spinde-speed-out is alre

Re: [Emc-users] Retrofit Candidate?

2020-07-16 Thread N
> On Thursday 16 July 2020 01:39:04 Bari wrote: > > > On 7/16/20 12:18 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > But all that lumber padding under the head, supporting it because > > > the drive isn't, its not possible to see the spindle. IMO that needs > > > to be subject to an on-site inspection. That also