Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-07-21 Thread Erik Friesen
I don't know, I am not familiar with HID in linux. I would suggest posting, or searching the MplabX forumshttp://www.microchip.com/forums/f238.aspxfor this info, if you can't get anywhere On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Kent A. Reed kentallanr...@gmail.comwrote: On 7/20/2012 10:10 PM,

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-07-21 Thread Cathrine Hribar
On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 23:07:09 -0400 Kent A. Reed kentallanr...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/20/2012 10:10 PM, Cathrine Hribar wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:47:49 -0400 Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: On 4/16/2012 1:15 PM,

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-07-21 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 7/21/2012 4:46 PM, Cathrine Hribar wrote: On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 23:07:09 -0400 Kent A. Reed kentallanr...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/20/2012 10:10 PM, Cathrine Hribar wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:47:49 -0400 Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Dave

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-07-21 Thread Cathrine Hribar
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 17:15:32 -0400 Kent A. Reed kentallanr...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/21/2012 4:46 PM, Cathrine Hribar wrote: On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 23:07:09 -0400 Kent A. Reed kentallanr...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/20/2012 10:10 PM, Cathrine Hribar wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:47:49 -0400

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-07-20 Thread Cathrine Hribar
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:47:49 -0400 Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: On 4/16/2012 1:15 PM, Erik Friesen wrote: http://embeddedfun.blogspot.com/2011/05/installing-mplabx-on-ubuntu-1104.html

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-07-20 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 7/20/2012 10:10 PM, Cathrine Hribar wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:47:49 -0400 Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net wrote: On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: On 4/16/2012 1:15 PM, Erik Friesen wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-05-16 Thread Erik Friesen
I don't know if it will see it unless its connected to a pic chip. On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Cathrine Hribar bhri...@bresnan.netwrote: On 4/16/2012 1:15 PM, Erik Friesen wrote: http://embeddedfun.blogspot.com/2011/05/installing-mplabx-on-ubuntu-1104.html

[Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-05-07 Thread Roland Jollivet
On 6 May 2012 05:32, Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosow...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: Dave wrote: It is just a little overwhelming what can be done with these ARM MCUs. Yes, I'm using the Beagle Board in some projects. I

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-05-05 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: Dave wrote: It is just a little overwhelming what can be done with these ARM MCUs. Yes, I'm using the Beagle Board in some projects. I just went to a Xilinx session about their ZedBoard development kit for Zynq dual

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-04-17 Thread John Prentice
Greetings - Original Message - From: Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com On 4/16/2012 5:00 PM, Stephen Dubovsky wrote: As far as I can tell, ARMs are in a different class. (Price, complexity, performance, etc.) There are dozens of companies making thousands of ARM processor variations. One

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-04-17 Thread Erik Friesen
I know this is somewhat up to debate, but having everything under one roof is worth something. To the inexperienced person, everything in the last 5+ posts is complete greek. On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:33 AM, John Prentice j...@castlewd.freeserve.co.uk wrote: Greetings - Original Message

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-04-17 Thread Dave
Have you used, or are you using the NXP software tools? I'm downloading the NXP code_red LPCXpresso software right now. They say it is low cost, but so far there has been no cost. :-) (Where do they get these names from?? LPCXpresso?? ) To the inexperienced person, everything in the last 5+

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-04-17 Thread Dave
On 4/17/2012 5:33 AM, John Prentice wrote: Greetings - Original Message - From: Davee...@dc9.tzo.com On 4/16/2012 5:00 PM, Stephen Dubovsky wrote: As far as I can tell, ARMs are in a different class. (Price, complexity, performance, etc.) There are dozens

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-04-17 Thread Jon Elson
Dave wrote: It is just a little overwhelming what can be done with these ARM MCUs. Yes, I'm using the Beagle Board in some projects. One of them receives TCP packets and sets a 32-in 8-out signal multiplexer in a location that is sometimes inaccessible due to radiation. It is a totally

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-04-16 Thread Cathrine Hribar
Hi Erik: well i downloaded MPLAB X from microchip. Tried to run the install program but the Ubuntu system says that I don't have the software installed needed to run the MPLAB X install file. Any suggestions of what I need to get and where to get it? Thanks: Bill

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-04-16 Thread Dave
Where is a good website that describes the software and hardware tool chain required to develop and program Pic controllers? I've looked at the Willem programmers available on Ebay but I have no idea if those are compatible with the newest software development tools or not? Dave On 4/16/2012

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-04-16 Thread Erik Friesen
My advice is to buy microchip tools. They are very little more, and you get support. MplabX is finicky enough, I wouldn't try other tools at this point. I don't know any website right off. I think you are best off buying a starter kit like the pickit3 debug express. The initial learning curve

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-04-16 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 14:33 -0400, Dave wrote: Where is a good website that describes the software and hardware tool chain required to develop and program Pic controllers? I've looked at the Willem programmers available on Ebay but I have no idea if those are compatible with the newest

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-04-16 Thread Erik Friesen
I have heard AVR's are easier. I think once you get used to the complete picture, none are that much harder than the others. I know AVR has had some issues with their supply chain. Microchip doesn't do much handholding, I think their bread and butter is supplying the automotive. I have their

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-04-16 Thread Stephen Dubovsky
I don't mean to offend anybody, but AVR's are cheap and fall down easy to get started with. Why bother with PIC's? The only reason I can think of, is to fill time with the challenge at hand. Haha. I think the same thing now, but my suggestion is ARM. We've used PIC for over a decade at the

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-04-16 Thread Kenneth Lerman
On 4/16/2012 3:06 PM, Stephen Dubovsky wrote: I don't mean to offend anybody, but AVR's are cheap and fall down easy to get started with. Why bother with PIC's? The only reason I can think of, is to fill time with the challenge at hand. Haha. I think the same thing now, but my suggestion is

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-04-16 Thread Dave
On 4/16/2012 2:51 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 14:33 -0400, Dave wrote: Where is a good website that describes the software and hardware tool chain required to develop and program Pic controllers? I've looked at the Willem programmers available on Ebay but I have no

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-04-16 Thread Greg Bernard
that. -Thomas Edison, inventor (1847-1931) From: Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 14:33

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-04-16 Thread andy pugh
On 16 April 2012 21:06, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: Excellent point.  I already have plenty of things to fill my time.  :-) In that case, Arduino is a very convenient set of programmer, (free/Free Linux) compiler and proto-board, and isn't ruiniously expensive for one-offs. -- atp The idea

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-04-16 Thread Neil
Hi guys, Lurker waking up with this thread. I use PIC's day and night for commercial use, and want to chime in also... Depending on what you want to do, PICs are great. AVR's and PIC's generally fit the same application space, but Atmel (the AVR folks) still struggling to make a profit

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-04-16 Thread Stephen Dubovsky
As far as I can tell, ARMs are in a different class. (Price, complexity, performance, etc.) Ken They ARE in a different class:) They're cheaper AND faster. The ARM support community is bigger than any PIC/TI/AVR/etc. (probably bigger than anything but the x86.) As examples: 1) NXP LPC

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-04-16 Thread Bill Hill
On 16 Apr 2012, at 21:09, Greg Bernard wrote: I started out with AVR's beginning with an Arduino. Being a beginner programmer, this was a great introduction. But now I am preparing to start with PIC's for the simple reason that I can find a lot more motion control libraries which is my

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-04-16 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Kenneth Lerman kenneth.ler...@se-ltd.com wrote: On 4/16/2012 3:06 PM, Stephen Dubovsky wrote: I don't mean to offend anybody, but AVR's are cheap and fall down easy to get started with. Why bother with PIC's? The only reason I can think of, is to fill time with

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-04-16 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Neil emc_d...@narwani.org wrote: Hi guys, Lurker waking up with this thread.  I use PIC's day and night for commercial use, and want to chime in also... ... ARM processors fit a different space (that require a bit more processing power), but if you know how

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-04-16 Thread Stephen Dubovsky
The complexity does come in because there are so many of them: NXP, ST, TI, Broadcom, Marvell and Atmel, each one a little different; but if you are looking for low price/complexity, just stick to one of them, for instance NXP LPC series. 8 pin DIP?! Does anyone release (new) though hole

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-04-16 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Stephen Dubovsky smdubov...@gmail.com wrote: 8 pin DIP?!  Does anyone release (new) though hole parts anymore? :)  SMT is just something everyone has to get use to. What was the lowest pin-count ARM that you're aware of? Sometimes 4 pins is all you need :)

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-04-16 Thread Dave
On 4/16/2012 5:00 PM, Stephen Dubovsky wrote: As far as I can tell, ARMs are in a different class. (Price, complexity, performance, etc.) Ken They ARE in a different class:) They're cheaper AND faster. The ARM support community is bigger than any PIC/TI/AVR/etc. (probably bigger

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler

2012-03-24 Thread Erik Friesen
Well, feel free to ask questions. The microchip forums can be rather daunting to get some of the basic questions answered. At first, the biggest challenge is just to get a project that will compile. If you already have a hex file, you can load it into the windows pickit2 loader, and you don't

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler

2012-03-24 Thread Cathrine Hribar
Well, feel free to ask questions. The microchip forums can be rather daunting to get some of the basic questions answered. At first, the biggest challenge is just to get a project that will compile. If you already have a hex file, you can load it into the windows pickit2 loader, and

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler

2012-03-23 Thread Cathrine Hribar
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 06:51:38 -0400 Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net wrote: I don't know whether you'll have to switch or not. You can still try mplabx, but it may take some effort to get everything going. You can turn in a support ticket now, its just whether or not you want to spend the time

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler

2012-03-20 Thread Erik Friesen
I don't know whether you'll have to switch or not. You can still try mplabx, but it may take some effort to get everything going. You can turn in a support ticket now, its just whether or not you want to spend the time getting it going. Personally, after an initial test, I am letting others go

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler

2012-03-19 Thread Cathrine Hribar
I'm not kirk, but have you tried mplabX? I'd say the pickit3 will work the best with mplabX currently. Hi Erik: I have down loaded mplab x. Have you worked with mplab x and pickit 2, or 3?? I have pickit 2 and was woundering if it could be made to work under Linux with mplab x.

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler

2012-03-19 Thread Erik Friesen
I don't think so. For some reason the developers left the pickit2 behind with X. What chip series will you be using? I haven't had good results with my windows machine. I have a real ice and icd3, but neither have played well with X. The advantage to a pickit3 is that it is HID style usb, so

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler

2012-03-19 Thread Cathrine Hribar
On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:55:56 -0400 Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net wrote: I don't think so. For some reason the developers left the pickit2 behind with X. What chip series will you be using? I will try to work with the dspic30f4012. I am feeling my way through the dark and, like you, have

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-03-09 Thread Erik Friesen
Mplab 8.8 isn't linux compatible. You need mplabXhttp://www.microchip.com/en_US/family/mplabx/index.html On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Cathrine Hribar bhri...@bresnan.net wrote: If you plan on using a Windows environment, then you can use Microchip's MPLAB PIC IDE and several different C

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-03-08 Thread Cathrine Hribar
On Fri, 02 Mar 2012 23:14:03 -0500 Kent A. Reed knbr...@erols.com wrote: On 3/2/2012 10:32 PM, Cathrine Hribar wrote: On Fri, 02 Mar 2012 15:04:54 -0500 Doug Goffdg...@comporium.net wrote: Bill, If you plan on using a Windows environment, then you can use Microchip's MPLAB PIC IDE

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-03-08 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 3/8/2012 12:22 PM, Cathrine Hribar wrote: On Fri, 02 Mar 2012 23:14:03 -0500 Kent A. Reedknbr...@erols.com wrote: On 3/2/2012 10:32 PM, Cathrine Hribar wrote: On Fri, 02 Mar 2012 15:04:54 -0500 Doug Goffdg...@comporium.net wrote: Bill, If you plan on using a Windows

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-03-08 Thread Cathrine Hribar
If you plan on using a Windows environment, then you can use Microchip's MPLAB PIC IDE and several different C compilers, all freeware. MPLABX ... Hi Doug: Thanks for the info... I just received the pickit 2 debug from microchip. Have the latest v. of MPLAB. Problem is that my software

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler

2012-03-02 Thread Cathrine Hribar
Hi Kirk: Would u happen to know of a free ware compiler to use to program PIC's under linux? Thanks: Bill -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler

2012-03-02 Thread Erik Friesen
I'm not kirk, but have you tried mplabX? I'd say the pickit3 will work the best with mplabX currently. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Cathrine Hribar bhri...@bresnan.netwrote: Hi Kirk: Would u happen to know of a free ware compiler to use to program PIC's under linux? Thanks: Bill

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler

2012-03-02 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, March 02, 2012 01:18:50 PM Cathrine Hribar did opine: Hi Kirk: Would u happen to know of a free ware compiler to use to program PIC's under linux? Thanks: Bill According to google, which was very very slow to respond just now, SDCC and GPUTILS seem to be relevant.

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler

2012-03-02 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2012-03-02 at 10:54 -0700, Cathrine Hribar wrote: Hi Kirk: Would u happen to know of a free ware compiler to use to program PIC's under linux? Thanks: Bill I've only played with AVR's. I tried PIC's, but at the time, there where no Linux C compilers, so I went to AVR. I still

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler

2012-03-02 Thread Cathrine Hribar
Ben SDCC is terrible at generating PIC code. I can't speak for it in general, but I've never compiled more than the most trivial program without running into critical bugs in the output (like mis-setting the bank). The availability of an AVR GCC target is one of the reasons I

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler

2012-03-02 Thread Ben Jackson
On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 12:21:15PM -0700, Cathrine Hribar wrote: The availability of an AVR GCC target is one of the reasons I switched to AVR. I don't regret it at all. Hi Ben: thanks for the info. What is an AVR? As in Atmel AVR. A series of 8-bit microcontrollers covering the

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler

2012-03-02 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2012-03-02 at 11:29 -0800, Ben Jackson wrote: On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 12:21:15PM -0700, Cathrine Hribar wrote: The availability of an AVR GCC target is one of the reasons I switched to AVR. I don't regret it at all. Hi Ben: thanks for the info. What is an AVR? As

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-03-02 Thread Doug Goff
Bill, If you plan on using a Windows environment, then you can use Microchip's MPLAB PIC IDE and several different C compilers, all freeware. MPLABX is a new platform that is still a bit buggy, though usable. And it will run under Linux. I use the PICKit 3 to program PICs, no problem. I

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler

2012-03-02 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Cathrine Hribar bhri...@bresnan.net wrote: Would u happen to know of a free ware compiler to use to program PIC's under linux? Which PIC? there's PIC10, 12, 16, 17, 18, 24, 30, and 32 and maybe even PIC33. PIC32 is actually MIPS, so GCC supports it just fine.

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-03-02 Thread Cathrine Hribar
On Fri, 02 Mar 2012 15:04:54 -0500 Doug Goff dg...@comporium.net wrote: Bill, If you plan on using a Windows environment, then you can use Microchip's MPLAB PIC IDE and several different C compilers, all freeware. MPLABX is a new platform that is still a bit buggy, though usable. And