Re: [Emc-users] NML communication --> Raspberry

> On 21.07.17 11:36, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > > I have been thinking about the beagle bone as a real time computer but > > still want an ordinary computer as a user interface and this. > > It would certainly fit on the back of the monitor, and runs off 12v, > provided by the supplied wall-wart.

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

On 07/22/2017 03:26 AM, Frederic RIBLE wrote: On 22/07/2017 03:58, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: With 0MQ protocol ? Yes, that is BeagleBone Black and ZeroMQ. I agree, 7" screen is too small. Have you checked out Touchy? It actually is quite usable on a 7" touch screen. You do have to have a run

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

> On 22/07/2017 03:58, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > > With 0MQ protocol ? > Yes, that is BeagleBone Black and ZeroMQ. Great, this make me really happy. I will take a look on both raspberry and beagle bone, I want SPIs, UARTs, ethernet and maybe in the future ethercat. Maybe I give NML one try more

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

On 22/07/2017 03:58, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: With 0MQ protocol ? Yes, that is BeagleBone Black and ZeroMQ. I agree, 7" screen is too small. Good for 3D printing, but not for a more complex CNC machine. With so small buttons, there is risk of harmful mistakes. Also, I will add MPG in the future

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication --> Raspberry

On 21.07.17 11:36, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > I have been thinking about the beagle bone as a real time computer but > still want an ordinary computer as a user interface and this. Offloading the UI from the beaglebone makes it an even finer RT platform, I figure. The intermediate of the three

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 23:10:31 +0200 Frederic RIBLE wrote: > On 19/07/2017 20:01, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > > GUI on one computer and real time on other machine. > I am using Machinekit exactly for that purpose. With 0MQ protocol ?

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

> On 19/07/2017 20:01, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > > GUI on one computer and real time on other machine. > I am using Machinekit exactly for that purpose. > Look at my retrofit using an Android tablet for the GUI: > https://youtu.be/LnJv07yeGt0?t=2m You use beagle bone? > I am not yet fully

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

On 19/07/2017 20:01, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: GUI on one computer and real time on other machine. I am using Machinekit exactly for that purpose. Look at my retrofit using an Android tablet for the GUI: https://youtu.be/LnJv07yeGt0?t=2m I am not yet fully satisfied by this setup: this is a low

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

> On 07/20/2017 07:14 AM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > > On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 12:53:15 +0100 > > Les Newell wrote: > > > >> I tried Machinekit fairly recently and managed to run GUI and control on > >> separate simulated machines but it was a little flaky. > > 0MQ is pretty

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication --> Raspberry

On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 23:48:22 -0500 Jon Elson wrote: > On 07/20/2017 07:19 AM, Les Newell wrote: > > From what I research I have done the Raspberry is more > > than a little problematic. The Beagle Bone seems to be the > > board of choice for Machinekit. I looked into

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication --> Raspberry

On 07/20/2017 07:19 AM, Les Newell wrote: From what I research I have done the Raspberry is more than a little problematic. The Beagle Bone seems to be the board of choice for Machinekit. I looked into this and came to the conclusion it is too much work for no real gain. You can get small

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

On 07/20/2017 07:14 AM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 12:53:15 +0100 Les Newell wrote: I tried Machinekit fairly recently and managed to run GUI and control on separate simulated machines but it was a little flaky. 0MQ is pretty new, NML have been

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 09:54:13 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 20 July 2017 07:45:38 Erik Christiansen wrote: > > > On 20.07.17 13:18, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > > > Here http://nairobi-embedded.org/060_linuxcnc_nml_config.html I > > > found someone who seems to know

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

On 07/20/2017 05:28 AM, Les Newell wrote: There already is a stanardized sockets based interface called NML. Standardized for LinuxCNC but it is not a generic CNC interface. It is also licensed GPL2 which is a problem if you want to use it with closed source controllers such as Mach3,

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

On Thursday 20 July 2017 07:45:38 Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 20.07.17 13:18, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > > Here http://nairobi-embedded.org/060_linuxcnc_nml_config.html I > > found someone who seems to know what it's all about and mention > > v.2.8.0~pre1 which is the latest development version.

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

There already is a stanardized sockets based interface called NML. Standardized for LinuxCNC but it is not a generic CNC interface. It is also licensed GPL2 which is a problem if you want to use it with closed source controllers such as Mach3, Eding CNC, UCCNC, PoKeys etc. That sound

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication --> Raspberry

From what I research I have done the Raspberry is more than a little problematic. The Beagle Bone seems to be the board of choice for Machinekit. I looked into this and came to the conclusion it is too much work for no real gain. You can get small Intel based boxes pretty cheap these days. I/O

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 12:53:15 +0100 Les Newell wrote: > I tried Machinekit fairly recently and managed to run GUI and control on > separate simulated machines but it was a little flaky. 0MQ is pretty new, NML have been there for a long while. > ... In my case I >

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication --> Raspberry

> > Here http://nairobi-embedded.org/060_linuxcnc_nml_config.html I found > > someone who seems to know what it's all about and mention v.2.8.0~pre1 > > which is the latest development version. > > > > He seems to have the same idea as me, citation below: "Remote > > connections are especially

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

I tried Machinekit fairly recently and managed to run GUI and control on separate simulated machines but it was a little flaky. I don't know if I had the most recent code as documentation is rather sparse. In my case I want to run two GUIs on LinuxCNC. I want to run two monitors on my mill,

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

On 20.07.17 13:18, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > Here http://nairobi-embedded.org/060_linuxcnc_nml_config.html I found > someone who seems to know what it's all about and mention v.2.8.0~pre1 > which is the latest development version. > > He seems to have the same idea as me, citation below: "Remote

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

On 20 July 2017 at 12:18, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > He seems to have the same idea as me, citation below: > "Remote connections are especially useful in setups where EMCSERVER and the > core LinuxCNC modules (i.e. TASK, and the hard realtime motion control and >

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

> > In github I found 112 repositories but quite little activity on machinekit > > fork > > This is the main one: > https://github.com/machinekit/machinekit > > It seems fairly active: > https://github.com/machinekit/machinekit/pulse/monthly Yes it does, machinekod was less active. I heard

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

On 20 July 2017 at 03:18, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > In github I found 112 repositories but quite little activity on machinekit > fork This is the main one: https://github.com/machinekit/machinekit It seems fairly active:

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

On 07/19/2017 08:08 PM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: On 07/20/2017 09:35 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 19 July 2017 at 19:34, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: I have read thru the documentation and do not find it. I don't know if they have documentation. That's why you were told

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

> On 07/19/2017 04:35 PM, andy pugh wrote: > > On 19 July 2017 at 19:34, Nicklas Karlsson > > wrote: > > > >> I have read thru the documentation and do not find it. > > I don't know if they have documentation. That's why you were told to > > talk to them or look at

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

On 07/19/2017 04:35 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 19 July 2017 at 19:34, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: I have read thru the documentation and do not find it. I don't know if they have documentation. That's why you were told to talk to them or look at their code. I think

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

On 07/19/2017 01:34 PM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: HAL spans the divide and lets realtime and non-realtime components talk to each other easily. HAL is currently not network-transparent, so components on one computer can't make HAL net connections to components on a different computer. This may or

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

> On 07/20/2017 09:35 AM, andy pugh wrote: > > On 19 July 2017 at 19:34, Nicklas Karlsson > > wrote: > > > >> I have read thru the documentation and do not find it. > > > > I don't know if they have documentation. That's why you were told to > > talk to them or

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

> On 07/20/2017 09:35 AM, andy pugh wrote: > > On 19 July 2017 at 19:34, Nicklas Karlsson > > wrote: > > > >> I have read thru the documentation and do not find it. > > > > I don't know if they have documentation. That's why you were told to > > talk to them or

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

On 07/20/2017 09:35 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 19 July 2017 at 19:34, Nicklas Karlsson > wrote: > >> I have read thru the documentation and do not find it. > > I don't know if they have documentation. That's why you were told to > talk to them or look at their

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

On 19 July 2017 at 19:34, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > I have read thru the documentation and do not find it. I don't know if they have documentation. That's why you were told to talk to them or look at their code. I think that they were planning to replace NMP with

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication --> linuxcnc is a script

> On 07/19/2017 08:26 AM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > > I have arrived at a point there I am starting to think about > > splitting linuxcnc in two, one for real time and the other for GUI. I > > know it have been up before not to long time ago. I guess move EMCMOT > > and below is what I start with

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

> On 07/19/2017 08:26 AM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > > I have arrived at a point there I am starting to think about > > splitting linuxcnc in two, one for real time and the other for GUI. I > > know it have been up before not to long time ago. I guess move EMCMOT > > and below is what I start with

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

> >> HAL spans the divide and lets realtime and non-realtime components talk > >> to each other easily. > >> > >> HAL is currently not network-transparent, so components on one computer > >> can't make HAL net connections to components on a different computer. > >> This may or may not be an

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

> Hi Nicklas, > > What exactly are you trying to achieve? If we know more about your > project we may be able to suggest solutions. GUI on one computer and real time on other machine. My ordinary computer work well but not perfect. With no or low demand on real time I could connect to machine

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

Hi Nicklas, What exactly are you trying to achieve? If we know more about your project we may be able to suggest solutions. Les On 19/07/2017 15:26, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: I have arrived at a point there I am starting to think about splitting linuxcnc in two, one for real time and the

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

On 07/19/2017 10:47 AM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: ... HAL spans the divide and lets realtime and non-realtime components talk to each other easily. HAL is currently not network-transparent, so components on one computer can't make HAL net connections to components on a different computer. This

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

> ... > HAL spans the divide and lets realtime and non-realtime components talk > to each other easily. > > HAL is currently not network-transparent, so components on one computer > can't make HAL net connections to components on a different computer. > This may or may not be an obstacle for

Re: [Emc-users] NML communication

On 07/19/2017 08:26 AM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: I have arrived at a point there I am starting to think about splitting linuxcnc in two, one for real time and the other for GUI. I know it have been up before not to long time ago. I guess move EMCMOT and below is what I start with but EMCTASK I am

[Emc-users] NML communication

I have arrived at a point there I am starting to think about splitting linuxcnc in two, one for real time and the other for GUI. I know it have been up before not to long time ago. I guess move EMCMOT and below is what I start with but EMCTASK I am a little bit unsure about. Do anybody have