Re: [Emc-users] ur steppers

2012-01-07 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/5/2012 8:46 PM, gene heskett wrote: > Where can I find some real docs on this isolcpu thingy? Gene: Quoting from kernel.org: isolcpus= [KNL,SMP] Isolate CPUs from the general scheduler. Format: ,..., or

[Emc-users] running headless on my ASUS AT5NM10-I MB (Intel Atom D510 cpu)

2012-01-08 Thread Kent A. Reed
Gentle persons: Recently, I wrote... > I just ran 15-minute latency tests on my ASUS AT5NM10-I board (which is > equipped with an Intel Atom D510 cpu) first with a stock boot and then with > isolcpus=1 as a boot parameter. I've posted my results in the table on the > Wiki. > > In brief, isolat

Re: [Emc-users] ur steppers

2012-01-08 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/7/2012 8:48 PM, gene heskett wrote: > On Saturday, January 07, 2012 08:40:23 PM Kent A. Reed did opine: > >> On 1/5/2012 8:46 PM, gene heskett wrote: >>> Where can I find some real docs on this isolcpu thingy? >> Gene: >> >> Quoting from kernel.o

Re: [Emc-users] running headless on my ASUS AT5NM10-I MB (Intel Atom D510 cpu)

2012-01-09 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/9/2012 5:20 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: > On 01/08/2012 06:27 PM, Kent A. Reed wrote: >> I had a few minutes this afternoon and decided to try another experiment >> with this board---still running Ubuntu 10.04LTS with the 2.6.32-122-rtai >> kernel. >> >> I disa

Re: [Emc-users] running headless on my ASUS AT5NM10-I MB (Intel Atom D510 cpu)

2012-01-09 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/9/2012 12:17 AM, Jon Elson wrote: > Kent A. Reed wrote: >> possible even install RTAI and EMC2 over a Ubuntu server distribution to >> avoid the Gnome/X-server stuff altogether, since there's the usual niff-naff >> about booting Ubuntu desktop edition without a mon

Re: [Emc-users] running headless on my ASUS AT5NM10-I MB (Intel Atom D510 cpu)

2012-01-09 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/9/2012 9:57 AM, Les Newell wrote: > Some kernel mode display drivers can make X fail to start if they don't > find a monitor. See this page > so see how to turn off KMS > for your driver. You will have to create an xorg.conf to manually > specify

Re: [Emc-users] running headless on my ASUS AT5NM10-I MB (Intel Atom D510 cpu)

2012-01-09 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/9/2012 9:56 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: > On 01/09/2012 09:22 AM, Kent A. Reed wrote: >> On 1/9/2012 5:20 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: >> >>> On 01/08/2012 06:27 PM, Kent A. Reed wrote: >>> >>>> I had a few minutes this afternoon and decided to try another exp

Re: [Emc-users] running headless on my ASUS AT5NM10-I MB (Intel Atom D510 cpu)

2012-01-09 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/9/2012 10:59 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: > On 01/09/2012 10:52 AM, Kent A. Reed wrote: >> On 1/9/2012 9:57 AM, Les Newell wrote: >> >>> Some kernel mode display drivers can make X fail to start if they don't >>> find a monitor. See this page >>> <

Re: [Emc-users] Correcting for workpiece warpage.

2012-01-12 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/12/2012 2:22 AM, gene heskett wrote: > <...> > But, now there is a new CadSoft Eagle problem for all of us that renders > the whole project moot. > > Apparently my freebie copy of eagle has timed out, the screen it opens > is about 75% transparent and extremely bleached out, rendering it unusa

Re: [Emc-users] Correcting for workpiece warpage (CncPcb Makefile)

2012-01-12 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/11/2012 7:35 PM, gene heskett wrote: > On Wednesday, January 11, 2012 07:01:30 PM Kirk Wallace did opine: > >> On Wed, 2012-01-11 at 14:30 -0500, gene heskett wrote: >> ... snip >> >>>So >>> >>> the question then is what kind of wax? Paraffin would soften a bit >>> fast come summer heat I

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port not working

2012-01-14 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/14/2012 10:32 AM, Bob von Knobloch wrote: > I am attempting to install emc 2.4.6 on an HP Pavilion t3000 AMD PC. > I have an existing older version, running on an older PC (it wasn't up > to the upgrade). > So, using the old hal& ini files, I constructed the new version, adding > "loadrt prob

Re: [Emc-users] New thread, visolate

2012-01-15 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/15/2012 4:31 AM, gene heskett wrote: > It may, when I'm awake for the day, turn out to have been the clue to > find it, so don't beat yourself up about it. I find I get lost in the > information overload and my eyes glaze over about the time I made the > last link. Getting a fresh start on

Re: [Emc-users] New thread, visolate

2012-01-15 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/15/2012 1:41 PM, gene heskett wrote: > I also play the canary in the coal mine part on the amanda list, using a > script that never forgets the many ./configure options so each succeeding > alpha release is built with all the same options each time. All of this of > course is my attempt to co

Re: [Emc-users] New thread, visolate

2012-01-15 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/15/2012 2:48 PM, gene heskett wrote: > But I cut my computer teeth on an RCA 1802 without an assembler, I looked Gene: I think I had more genuine fun with the 1802 than with any other microchip I've ever used. I still have one somewhere in my last-in-never-out stack. As for working without

Re: [Emc-users] Dapatkan akses ke foto-foto saya dan lain-lainnya

2012-01-16 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/16/2012 1:38 PM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Erik Christiansen > wrote: > >> On 16.01.12 05:11, gene heskett wrote: >>> On Monday, January 16, 2012 05:05:23 AM kurniadi engkur did opine: >>> Hai, Saya membuat profil Netlog dengan foto saya, video,

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-17 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/17/2012 9:16 PM, Chris Radek wrote: > In the spring of 2011, the LinuxCNC Board of Directors was contacted > by a law firm representing EMC Corporation (www.emc.com) about the use > of "EMC" and "EMC2" to identify the software offered on linuxcnc.org. > EMC Corporation has registered various t

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-17 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/17/2012 10:20 PM, Jeff Epler wrote: > We have registered new IRC channels on freenode that reflect the new > project name. Please join us on #linuxcnc or #linuxcnc-devel. For the > time being, users joining the old channels will be forwarded, but this > may not be possible indefinitely. > >

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-17 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/17/2012 10:31 PM, Jack Coats wrote: > IMHO, we need to keep references to EMC and EMC2 on the web site as > 'historical artifacts', and also reference the NIST project that > started the initial 'Enhanced Machine Controller' project and named > it. Like in http://www.isd.mel.nist.gov/projects/

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/18/2012 2:39 PM, Jack Coats wrote: > Open Machine Controller or OpenCNC would have been better name. Still > holding out hope that the software could be supported on different > platforms. > > For now, LinuxCNC is the monniker. > > At least it isn't GNUCNC > > Or, in classic Unix fashion, YAC

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced MachineController

2012-01-19 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/19/2012 10:45 AM, Ian W. Wright wrote: > On 18/01/2012 08:47, Alex Joni wrote: >> "I think it important that the names of web pages stay the same even if >> the names include emc, or at least put in redirects from the old page >> names. Otherwise links in past emails will break. Even if links

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-19 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/19/2012 11:20 AM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > >> On 18/01/2012 16:28, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: >>> It's no good, we'd just get sued by the Large Magellanic Cloud… >> Who are they going to sue in an open source project - the >> developers ( who are they? anyone who has ever mage any >> alterati

Re: [Emc-users] question on gcode parsing

2012-01-22 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/22/2012 4:46 AM, Michael Haberler wrote: > well, my requirements for a vehicle would be roughly like so: > > - industrial-strength error diagnosis and recovery, LALR(1) capable > - can generate a C/C++ scanner/parser from grammer, lexical definition > - the parser/scanner can be used from C/C+

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-24 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/24/2012 8:47 AM, Sven Wesley wrote: > 3. There are too many info channels! Close down the forum on the LinuxCNC > website ASAP! It doesn't work, Google can't make correct forward links and > some browsers fail to show it. There is an active forum at cnczone (I'll > fix the renaming), there's a

[Emc-users] question about tapered threading

2012-01-24 Thread Kent A. Reed
Gentle persons: Several items were called out recently as being show stoppers for LinuxCNC. I do not aspire to learn the inner workings of LinuxCNC well enough to contribute to discussion of the first item, "No jog on feedhold". However, the second item "Taper thread pitches are measured along

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading

2012-01-24 Thread Kent A. Reed
Thanks, Andy, Kirk, John, and Steve, for the input on lathe taper attachments. It took me a minute to realize what I was looking at but then the light bulb turned on. Obviously, I never made it past the row of entry-level South Bend lathes in my own work, although I was acutely aware of the too

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading

2012-01-24 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/24/2012 11:34 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > Kent A. Reed wrote: >> At best I'm a dilettante with machine tools and certainly I'm no expert >> with a lathe. That not withstanding, long, long ago, I was taught to cut >> a tapered thread on a manual lathe by shifting the

Re: [Emc-users] question about tapered threading (etc)

2012-01-24 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/24/2012 4:52 PM, John Prentice wrote: > On one hand I think it is unusual CNC behaviour in threading (so > possible difficulties for CAM users without a special postprocessor). John: Since I haven't had the pleasure of using serious CAM software I don't have first-hand experience with their

Re: [Emc-users] About the board, the rebrand, and the future

2012-01-25 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/25/2012 2:10 PM, Chris Radek wrote: > Michael, > > Thanks for your criticism. I have taken several days to think about > it. I have not discussed my thoughts with the board and I am > speaking only for myself and to my own relationship to the project. > > I agree with you that there are some

Re: [Emc-users] Mouse pointer hidden at startup

2012-01-25 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/25/2012 2:24 PM, Lars Andersson wrote: > On an ASUS ATN5NM10-I mobo (selected on recommendation in this list) I have > two partitions, one with a plain Ubuntu 10.04 > > and one with Ubuntu 10.04 2.6.32-122-rtai. This mobo works fine, max jitter > like 9000, I have the base thread interval set

Re: [Emc-users] About the board, the rebrand, and the future

2012-01-26 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/26/2012 5:05 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 25 January 2012 19:10, Chris Radek wrote: >> Protect myself and other individuals involved in the project >> from a ruinous lawsuit brought by an immensely wealthy >> multinational corporation that could cause grave hardship for >>

Re: [Emc-users] Mouse pointer hidden at startup

2012-01-26 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/26/2012 2:50 PM, Lars Andersson wrote: > >> -Original Message- >> From: Kent A. Reed [mailto:knbr...@erols.com] >> Sent: den 25 januari 2012 21:11 >> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Mouse pointer hidden at startup

Re: [Emc-users] AMD Hudson processor

2012-01-26 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/26/2012 3:06 PM, Eric Keller wrote: > I was wondering if anyone had tried the AMD low power processors like the > following: > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135290 > > <...> > I might just go ahead and try it anyway, I'm sure I can use it for > something. > Eric > I

Re: [Emc-users] Mouse pointer hidden at startup

2012-01-26 Thread Kent A. Reed
idden at startup >> >> >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Kent A. Reed [mailto:knbr...@erols.com] >>> Sent: den 25 januari 2012 21:11 >>> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) >>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Mouse pointer hidden a

[Emc-users] [OT] Re: Servo tuning - wtf?

2012-01-27 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/27/2012 2:54 PM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jan 2012, Viesturs L?cis wrote: > >> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:58:27 +0200 >> From: "[UTF-8] Viesturs L?cis" >> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> >> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] S

Re: [Emc-users] Servo tuning - wtf?

2012-01-27 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/27/2012 9:18 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > Peter C. Wallace wrote: >> >> This is wrong, you add D to make it more stable not I >> > This thing about add I to increase stability is in several places in the > docs and Wiki, Jon: I don't remember reading this when I was reviewing the V2.5 docs. As a

Re: [Emc-users] question on gcode parsing

2012-01-28 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/28/2012 9:20 AM, Michael Haberler wrote: > a bit of trawling yielded this: > > http://fennetic.net/irc/emc3/src/emc/interpreter/ > > this has rs274 parsers done with ANTLR, and bison/flex > > I have no idea what the status is > > -m > > Michael: Interesting...the directory bits "irc/emc3" cer

Re: [Emc-users] question on gcode parsing

2012-01-29 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/29/2012 12:37 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 25.01.12 21:22, Michael Haberler wrote: >> [this should move to emc-developers, which is why I'm cc'ing there] > It would be a pity if the rest of us were to be excluded. It is a very > interesting discussion, and the "EMC" issue was secretive en

Re: [Emc-users] [OT] Mailing list admin & netiquette [Was: question on gcode parsing]

2012-01-29 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/29/2012 9:52 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: > And if we make the effort to update the subject line, as I have done, > then the post is still presented in the thread by my mailreader, but > the subject immediately identifies it as a digression. There being no > cloaking, recipients are then empow

Re: [Emc-users] question on gcode parsing

2012-01-29 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/29/2012 10:55 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: > <...> > > What further simplifies the task is that we can, for example, group the > clauses which are common to G0, G1, etc., and give them a name. The part > of the grammar tree for G1 then gets the handling of the common clauses > for free, and w

Re: [Emc-users] question on gcode parsing

2012-01-30 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/30/2012 7:54 AM, Kenneth Lerman wrote: > On 01/30/2012 12:28 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: >> On 29.01.12 23:05, Kenneth Lerman wrote: >>> <...> >> <...> >> It is worth understanding that the current parser _does_ have a fixed >> grammar, just like the proposed alternative. The significant diff

[Emc-users] Required file extensions, was Re: File naming conventions in an o call?

2012-01-30 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/30/2012 12:32 PM, gene heskett wrote: > On Monday, January 30, 2012 12:17:58 PM John Thornton did opine: > >> <...> > I didn't find this one in my searches of the wiki last night, and while its > a bit concise, it does say it all according to what I found by the 10,000 > moneys theory workings

Re: [Emc-users] Back to isolcpus=1, again...

2012-01-30 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/30/2012 8:36 PM, gene heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > Just in the last day it has come to my attention that both emc-2.6.0-pre > (latest emc from buildbot, master-rt branch) and the slightly newer renamed > linuxcnc-2.6.0-pre (latest from buildbot) are both running exclusively on > cpu0, a

Re: [Emc-users] Back to isolcpus=1, again...

2012-01-30 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/30/2012 11:35 PM, gene heskett wrote: > On Monday, January 30, 2012 10:57:23 PM Kent A. Reed did opine: > >> On 1/30/2012 8:36 PM, gene heskett wrote: >>> Greetings all; >>> >>> Just in the last day it has come to my attention that both >>> em

Re: [Emc-users] question on gcode parsing

2012-01-31 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/31/2012 1:48 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: >> > 3) tools that allow one to treat the grammar as an engineering object, >> > e.g., view it, analyze it, manipulate it (refactor, group, etc), and >> > extend it. This area was an arid desert the last time I did any related >> > technical work.

Re: [Emc-users] Back to isolcpus=1, again...

2012-01-31 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/31/2012 10:02 AM, Ed Nisley wrote: > On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 23:35 -0500, gene heskett wrote: >> htop shows 2 cpu's with the 2nd one sitting at 0.0% use. > As I understand it, that's the way it should be. > > The point of isolating the second CPU / core / whatever is to dedicate > it to the real

Re: [Emc-users] Back to isolcpus=1, again...

2012-01-31 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/31/2012 10:37 AM, Kent A. Reed wrote: > It may well be that this placement of some non-realtime activity on cpu1 > fulfills the function of the "cpu hog" that is described in the RealTime > entry. On second thought, strike this. I was driving beyond my headlig

Re: [Emc-users] Back to isolcpus=1, again...

2012-01-31 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/31/2012 11:10 AM, gene heskett wrote: > What I think I've been saying is that we didn't know how it was working, Well, yeah, and I'm not sure we know now either. Just out of curiosity, how is your performance affected if you run the old-fashioned way, e.g., without isolating a cpu? Regards,

Re: [Emc-users] Back to isolcpus=1, again...

2012-01-31 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/31/2012 10:49 AM, gene heskett wrote: > On Tuesday, January 31, 2012 09:53:43 AM andy pugh did opine: > >> > On 31 January 2012 16:36, gene heskett wrote: >>> > > In grub, if the rtai kernel line has "isolcpus=1" appended, which >>> > > takes cpu1 out of the scheduler, then after the b

Re: [Emc-users] rs274ngc bison/flex parser {was: question on gcode parsing}

2012-01-31 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/31/2012 6:05 PM, Michael Haberler wrote: > ok, while this wonderful discussion was raging on, I built a working parser > for the current linuxcnc dialect, as an experiment in feasability (this is > NOT an end-user tool!) > > http://git.mah.priv.at/gitweb/emc2-dev.git/shortlog/refs/heads/pars

Re: [Emc-users] Piccolo

2012-02-18 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 2/18/2012 6:58 PM, John Stewart wrote: > Hi Sven; > > Thanks for posting the link. > > I talked to the diylilcnc people last SIGGRAPH about writing - I make 1:16 > scale steam locomotives, and getting white lettering and lining is tough for > me, as I can't draw a straight line! > > As you mig

Re: [Emc-users] parsing the current language dialect, and describing as EBNF

2012-02-18 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 2/7/2012 5:48 PM, Steve Blackmore wrote: >> However, fun though that might be, I doubt it would reach completion, >> >or gain any sort of market acceptance outside a very small subset of >> >LinuxCNC users, and almost certainly wouldn't expand outside our >> >project. > Agreed - May be interesti

Re: [Emc-users] Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC?

2012-02-19 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 2/19/2012 12:51 PM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > 2012/2/19 Alan Browning: >> I'm in the beginning stages of planning a DIY CNC machine using Ubuntu and >> LinuxCNC. The Problematic Hardware section of the doc says that onboard >> video is problematic. > I think that the statement about onboard vide

Re: [Emc-users] OT - decal/paint printing. Re: Piccolo

2012-02-19 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 2/19/2012 9:57 AM, John Stewart wrote: > Thanks for the ideas; I *believe*, though that: > > 1) the old dry-transfer "lettraset" white letters you used to purchase are no > longer being produced; > > 2) decal paper for laser/inkjet printers - you can get it clear or white, but > printing white

[Emc-users] CAM Post-processors: how much of the specification(s) do they span?

2012-02-19 Thread Kent A. Reed
Gentle persons: Eric said of my recent bout of pneumonia, "[A]nd the antibiotics leave you like a wrung-out dishrag too, ISTR." Truer words were never spoken. While lazing about, I visited www.camzone.org for the first time. As I understand it, the site was created by and most of the blog entr

Re: [Emc-users] OT - decal/paint printing. Re: Piccolo

2012-02-19 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 2/19/2012 4:34 PM, John Prentice wrote: >> I've never used it and I see from the website that the cost could mount >> up (maybe you could amortize the cost over a group of like-minded >> enthusiasts?), but the DecalProfx product from PulsarProfx >> (www.pulsarfx.com) explicitly states >> >> "Mak

Re: [Emc-users] The future of LinuxCNC mailing lists and bug tracking

2012-02-21 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 2/21/2012 11:46 AM, Jeff Epler wrote: > We presently host the primary webserver, forums, and wiki on dreamhost, > and anticipate using this for mailing list and bug tracker hosting. > > <...> > Jeff > > Jeff: I saw but didn't respond in a timely fashion to your first message about the future o

Re: [Emc-users] The future of LinuxCNC mailing lists and bug tracking

2012-02-22 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 2/21/2012 11:04 PM, Jeff Epler wrote: > This got a little bit wordy, so I hope that you're still with me and > that this answered your questions. > > Jeff Thanks, Jeff. It's clear you folks have spent a lot of time behind the scenes on this. I'd be happy to buy you all a beer! Regards, -

Re: [Emc-users] Brass finish question?

2012-02-23 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 2/22/2012 9:35 PM, gene heskett wrote: > On Wednesday, February 22, 2012 09:14:52 PM R.L. Wurdack did opine: > >> Whatever you use, beware of reflections from the sides of the slots >> themselves. > Precisely my concern. The front& rear faces of the disk are basically a > never mind. Its the

Re: [Emc-users] Why APT?

2012-02-27 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 2/27/2012 3:27 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: > I just refuse to remember what P and Q might mean in different contexts, > when I have a computer for that purpose. Sometimes the simplest statement is the most profound. I liked this one so much I thought it should be repeated. I wish I could part

Re: [Emc-users] Mendel, was Re: lathe advice?

2012-02-27 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 2/27/2012 9:05 AM, Ian W. Wright wrote: > Gene, > > <...> As > matter of interest, I recently knocked together a little 3d > printer - a Prusa Mendel - and one of its first jobs was to > make me several change wheels for my 7 x 12 to let me cut > the unusual threads I've been struggling with -

Re: [Emc-users] Mendel, was Re: lathe advice?

2012-02-28 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 2/27/2012 6:15 PM, Ian W. Wright wrote: > Hi Kent, > > No, on this one I'm using the stock Arduino electronics - it > was easier to set up and it works fine. I'm using the Marlin > firmware and Repetier host software on an Ubuntu 11.x box > (with Mono to allow the Repetier to work in the linux >

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-03-02 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 3/2/2012 10:32 PM, Cathrine Hribar wrote: > > On Fri, 02 Mar 2012 15:04:54 -0500 >Doug Goff wrote: >> Bill, >> If you plan on using a Windows environment, then you can use Microchip's >> MPLAB PIC IDE and several different C compilers, all freeware. MPLABX >> is a new platform that is sti

Re: [Emc-users] Why APT

2012-03-05 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 3/5/2012 1:28 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > dave wrote: >> I may have to eat my words. I just looked at one of the .asm routines >> and it looked rather well documented. But then that assumes that one >> knows 360 assembler. The fortran documentation is terse. >> > 360 assembler is fairly readable, onc

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc, possibly bug, or global isn't global

2012-03-05 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 3/5/2012 6:25 PM, gene heskett wrote: > On Monday, March 05, 2012 06:22:50 PM gene heskett did opine: > >> <...> >> Cheers, Gene >> Except my web page seems to be missing, and I've checked the router, >> I've pinged it, and restarted httpd several time without error. Reboot >> is next I guess.

Re: [Emc-users] C Compiler - MPLAB

2012-03-08 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 3/8/2012 12:22 PM, Cathrine Hribar wrote: > > On Fri, 02 Mar 2012 23:14:03 -0500 > "Kent A. Reed" wrote: >> On 3/2/2012 10:32 PM, Cathrine Hribar wrote: >>> On Fri, 02 Mar 2012 15:04:54 -0500 >>> Doug Goff wrote: >>>> Bill, &g

Re: [Emc-users] The future of LinuxCNC mailing lists and bug tracking

2012-03-08 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 3/8/2012 8:51 PM, Jeff Epler wrote: > The responses in this thread seem to have been pretty heavily in favor > of moving to self-hosted service. The board will soon start on the > behind-the-scenes work to make this a reality. > > We've looked around for mailing list archive software that is be

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc, possibly bug, or global isn't global

2012-03-09 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 3/8/2012 11:40 PM, gene heskett wrote: > On Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:21:41 PM Michael Haberler did opine: > >> Am 08.03.2012 um 18:07 schrieb gene heskett: >>> Sorry about that, but you see I have this pond to drain, and first I >>> have to dispose of all the alligators before I can find the

Re: [Emc-users] Q re lathe vs axis

2012-03-14 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 3/14/2012 11:04 AM, gene heskett wrote: > The ipv6 address is what an ifconfig spits out for this machine. Its there > but I have no clue if it works. The 'shop' box doesn't have ipv6 disabled, > and it shows inet6 addr: fe80::3a60:77ff:fe4e:381b/64 Scope:Link in the > ifconfig output. A ping

Re: [Emc-users] Compiling Gotcha

2012-03-14 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 3/14/2012 11:11 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: > On 03/14/2012 11:05 AM, gene heskett wrote: >> On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:04:37 AM Mark Wendt did opine: >> >>> On 03/14/2012 02:01 AM, gene heskett wrote: >>> On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 01:58:58 AM Kirk Wallace did opine: > <...>

[Emc-users] OT: on the universal connectedness of not-so smart devices

2012-03-14 Thread Kent A. Reed
Gentle persons: A sideshoot of the discussion of Gene's IPv6 issues was the commenting on smart appliances. That was fun but a little off the mark since the dumbness of smart appliances isn't caused by universal connectivity, it's caused by programmers. Still, the Internet has the same multipl

Re: [Emc-users] Compiling Gotcha

2012-03-15 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 3/15/2012 5:24 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: > On 03/14/2012 01:53 PM, Kent A. Reed wrote: >>> <> >>> >>> >> All well and good, boys and girls, but let's not forget that "clean" and >> "distclean" are not intrinsic fun

[Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie

2012-03-16 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 3/16/2012 1:04 PM, Jon Elson wrote: >> 2012/3/15 Roger Holmquist: >> > Oh, I should mention that I have been using EMC since 1998, and have not > had one crash since mid 1998! So, that is coming up on 14 years of use! > (There was a bug that caused the GUI to lock up back in early 1998, but > i

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie

2012-03-16 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 3/16/2012 9:18 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > Kent A. Reed wrote: >> Wouldn't it be nice if someone could create a summary section that would >> catch the eye of folks like Roger. It might highlight the type of >> machine, its use (especially in production), and numbers like t

Re: [Emc-users] Marketing LinuxCNC, was Re: Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie

2012-03-16 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 3/16/2012 10:31 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Gentlemen, >Just how do you 'market' a free item/product? The free LinuxCNC software > is not even a loss leader. The whole thing is free - all the time - even > the advice - even the help. >Just asking. > thanks > Stuart > Stuart: When I wa

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel Adapter

2012-03-30 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 3/30/2012 3:23 PM, Jeshua Lacock wrote: > On Mar 30, 2012, at 1:12 PM, Jeshua Lacock wrote: > >> My new motherboard for EMC2 does not have a Parallel port on it - so I >> bought a PCI card for it in haste. Now it seems that I bought the wrong card >> for the job: > Actually, perhaps I spoke to

Re: [Emc-users] Max Jitter

2012-03-30 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 3/30/2012 5:41 PM, Jan de Kruyf wrote: > Do you get those errors with servos Gene? or with steppers! > > I am interested, since Jon was praising that board so much. > > j. > > > Jan: Such numbers seem to be typical broadly for boards equipped with Atom D510/D525 cpus and NM10 chipsets. See, fo

[Emc-users] Difficulty defining jitter, was Re: May be of Interest

2012-04-01 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 3/31/2012 4:45 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > I found this: > http://www.bitmuster.org/projects/emc.html > > the thing that comes to mind, considering the rev date, how it seems > fairly significant, and recent questions on the list, it's a little > surprising that this hasn't hit the wiki or been on

Re: [Emc-users] Difficulty defining jitter, was Re: May be of Interest

2012-04-01 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 4/1/2012 2:03 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > Kent A. Reed wrote: >> With a preempt_RT enabled kernel 2.6.33.7.2-rt30 and an appropriately >> modified EMC2.4.4 [patches from Michael Büsch and Jeff Eppler] running >> on an IBM Thinkpad T40 with a 1500MHz PentiumM cpu, the author meas

Re: [Emc-users] RELEASED: LinuxCNC 2.5.0

2012-04-01 Thread Kent A. Reed
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[Emc-users] glitches in several sim configurations

2012-04-02 Thread Kent A. Reed
Gentle persons: I grabbed the LinuxCNC 2.5 iso last night and tried it via a LiveUSB stick out this morning. Looks very clean. My thanks again. However, there's glitches in several sim sample configurations that I think have actually been around for several releases. A. For sim/axis/axis and

Re: [Emc-users] glitches in several sim configurations

2012-04-02 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 4/2/2012 11:36 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > Chris and I discussed this, and it is actually intentional. (Whether our > intentions are correct or not is another issue…) I'm sympathetic to your > notion that if a new user does the obvious thing ("push the Play button!") > something intere

Re: [Emc-users] database Q?

2012-04-02 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 4/2/2012 11:12 PM, gene heskett wrote: > In documenting all the wiring around linuxcnc for the lathe, I had started > a libreoffice-base session and had about half of the C1G wiring all laid > out so it would be in a format I could easily use to complete the .hal file > configuration. > > But of

Re: [Emc-users] A cross list bit of advice trivia

2012-04-07 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 4/7/2012 11:54 AM, gene heskett wrote: > I recently lost my ability to backup the shop machine with amanda. > > In trouble-shooting (watch it, trouble can shoot back), I first converted > from what I thought was inetd, to xinetd, but that came with a duff amanda > file, so that didn't work eithe

Re: [Emc-users] Gene, here's your portable O'scope

2012-04-09 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 4/9/2012 8:42 AM, gene heskett wrote: > On Monday, April 09, 2012 08:26:54 AM Mark Wendt did opine: > >> Ebay auction # 150730262099 >> >> Mark > Now that is kewl! I'll likely catch hell from the missus for buying > another toy, but my well grounded dual trace blew a bunch of stuff besides > th

Re: [Emc-users] machine tool tapers

2012-04-09 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 4/9/2012 8:01 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > 2012/4/9 charles green: >> i wonder if there is any math out there on the ideal taper form, given its >> use in specifed materials and load conditions? > Ohh, conical fits (I hope that is the correct translation) is the > thing we have been discussing i

Re: [Emc-users] German-language documentation, was: Downloading Release 2.5

2012-04-09 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 4/9/2012 11:18 AM, Peter Blodow wrote: > Gentlemen, > I finally made it and installed the new live CD on my former office PC. > <...> > Just a word about the German appearance: I would gladly help with > translation and adaptation to German if I knew how. As it is at the > moment, texts are mixe

Re: [Emc-users] German-language documentation, was: Downloading Release 2.5

2012-04-10 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 4/10/2012 2:59 AM, Peter Blodow wrote: > Kent, > apparently you didn't get me quite right as I saw already from the > thread name you changed. Caring for the docs in German is undoubtedly an > important challenge, but in he first place I was talking about the words > that are appearing on the sc

[Emc-users] [OT] well, snap, my ISP has been autoblocked

2012-04-10 Thread Kent A. Reed
Gentle persons: My ISP has just been autoblocked by sourceforge > Reporting-MTA: dns; smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net > > Final-Recipient:rfc822;emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Action: failed > Status: 5.0.0 (permanent failure) > Remote-MTA: dns; [216.34.181.68] > Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 5.1.0 -

Re: [Emc-users] GeckoDrive info, was Re: Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-10 Thread Kent A . Reed
Kirk Wallace writes: > > On Tue, 2012-04-10 at 11:25 -0400, Dave wrote: > > On 4/10/2012 11:11 AM, gene heskett wrote: > > > there is no source > > > > > of power on that side of the interface in the G540 > > <...> > > practical with the existing design. I was thinking that some simple > >

Re: [Emc-users] GeckoDrive info, was Re: Hal_parport and EPP

2012-04-10 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 4/10/2012 9:35 PM, Dave wrote: > On 4/10/2012 5:52 PM, Kent A. Reed wrote: >> Kirk Wallace writes: >> >> >>> <...> >>> >>> Dan from the DIY-CNC list has loaned a G540 to me (it might be here >>> Wed.). I plan to investigate this

Re: [Emc-users] machine tool tapers

2012-04-11 Thread Kent A. Reed
> alot of video games incorporate a physics model basis for the coordinated > movements of player avatars. perhaps the tangible world of substantial stuff > made of atoms is just not cost effective to precisely simulate. > > > --- On Mon, 4/9/12, Kent A. Reed wrote: > >

Re: [Emc-users] Storebro 260, some LinuxCNC2 testing and a question about CAM modules...

2012-04-11 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 4/11/2012 12:00 PM, Roger Holmquist wrote: > Done some more jobs on the CNC-Lathe. > - Installed LinuxCNC2 on my mac by VirtualBox. > - Found http://IGSViewer.com for plotting and study 3d-part-files in > IGES-format, in wireframe and solid modes, great SW! > - Lathe broken, Main spindle not r

[Emc-users] the state of the Wiki

2012-04-17 Thread Kent A. Reed
Gentle persons: When the dust settles over some of the recent, long threads on subjects like "G540 Test Update" and "BLDC" I hope the essences of the subjects get distilled into useful pages on our Wiki. Speaking of the Wiki , it could use a lot more editorial work. Looking at the Recent C

Re: [Emc-users] Motor controller in a 7x1* lathe, need schematic.

2012-04-21 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 4/21/2012 11:42 AM, gene heskett wrote: > Hi all; > > I was able to find a schematic for one of the earlier controllers used in > these machines, for one that had the external interfacing stuff on a > daughterboard and I suspect it might be usable as a trouble shooting guide > if it was printabl

Re: [Emc-users] the state of the Wiki

2012-04-21 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 4/17/2012 11:33 PM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Kent A. Reed > wrote: >> Speaking of the Wiki, it could use a lot more >> editorial work. Looking at the Recent Changes listing, I see the usual >> few suspects making progress but the

Re: [Emc-users] Motor controller in a 7x1* lathe, need schematic.

2012-04-22 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 4/21/2012 3:33 PM, gene heskett wrote: >> [from me] However, the schematics consist of a >> > bunch of gif files which you can select and print individually by the >> > simple expediency of right-clicking each image, opening it in a new tab, >> > and printing. > Didn't try that just now, but

Re: [Emc-users] Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie (TheNewbie)

2012-04-22 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 4/22/2012 11:07 AM, Michael Haberler wrote: > gents, you are busily inventing path queueing mechanism number 3. The > existing ones are: CRC offset curve aka queued_canon, and NCD aka > chained_points. Michael: I'm trying to get up to speed on the issues discussed in this thread. Not being a

Re: [Emc-users] Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie (TheNewbie)

2012-04-22 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 4/22/2012 3:48 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 22 April 2012 16:07, Michael Haberler wrote: >> gents, you are busily inventing path queueing mechanism number 3. The >> existing ones are: CRC offset curve aka queued_canon, and NCD aka >> chained_points. > I think CRC is "Cutter Radius Compensation"

Re: [Emc-users] Trajectory planning and other topics from a EMC(LinuxCNC) newbie (TheNewbie)

2012-04-23 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 4/23/2012 2:24 AM, Michael Haberler wrote: > let's discuss terminology for a minute (paths vs gcode segments) > > we have: > 1. linear G-code programs (no oword control structures) > 2. G-code with arbitrary control structures > 3. Some other yet-to-be-invented language for machine control. > >

Re: [Emc-users] the state of the Wiki

2012-04-27 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 4/18/2012 1:45 PM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Kent A. Reed > wrote: >> > >> > Speaking of the Wiki, it could use a lot more >> > editorial work. Looking at the Recent Changes listing, I see the usual >> > few susp

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