[EVDL] Cybertruck

Anybody interested in priority delivery of a Cybertruck? Apparently my reservation in the queue has come due, so I am entitled to use priority delivery, but will likely not use it - anybody interested? Cor. ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No oth

Re: [EVDL] JuiceBox apps to lose all "smart" features (Oct 11th)?

While the JuiceBox powers up, it runs its local web server, which allows you to log in with a mobile device and configure it, to point it to a server address, among other things. On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 10:13 AM (-Phil-) via EV wrote: > > Yeah, depending on what hardware they use, iit may be possi

Re: [EVDL] 2012 leaf large 12 volt battery

As far as I can see, the Leaf charges the 12V battery until the charge current into the battery drops below a certain level, I forget if it was 10A. This is the death of a lot of Leaf batteries: as they slowly age, the internal resistance goes up and even though they are far from being full, in fac

Re: [EVDL] 2013 Tesla charger failure mode: anybody insight?

To clear up and correct a few things - I was confusing the wiring that is there with other wiring that I recently inspected, because I saw the 277V phase voltage of the building lighting drop to 260V (due to the same 500ft of wire loop) and that was 12 AWG, but connected to a 20A breaker. The circu

Re: [EVDL] 2013 Tesla charger failure mode: anybody insight?

if you can >>> > do board-level repair due to their mechanical design. I suggest just >>> > ordering a used one for a couple hundred $. >>> > >>> > If you wanted to save buying one, you could convert the existing slave to >>> > a ma

Re: [EVDL] Three connector 220 to 14-30 no neutral?

Lawrence, First of all: yes, EVSE work on just 2 phase and ground, no neutral. That is why some EVSE come with an NEMA 6-30 plug. You say that there is an L-30 twistlock. I am missing a number, it should say L6-30 or L14-30 or something like that. As far as I know, the Tesla mobile charger uses a N

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

ase ≤ 80 A Per NEC 625 > > > > So your 245VAC may not be safe for some EV's > > > > Best, > > > > Rush Dougherty > > TucsonEV > > www.TucsonEV.com > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: EV On Behalf Of Cor van d

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

(North America) > > AC Level 2 208 to 240 V AC, 1-phase ≤ 80 A Per NEC 625 > > > > So your 245VAC may not be safe for some EV's > > > > Best, > > > > Rush Dougherty > > TucsonEV > > www.TucsonEV.com > > > >> -Original Message-

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

PM (-Phil-) wrote: > > > > Yes, I personally witnessed this happen at a Casino in Reno. Many Tesla > > destination chargers are wired to 277VAC. > > > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 5:31 PM Cor van de Water via EV > > wrote: > >> > >> The only c

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 5:55 PM (-Phil-) wrote: > > Yes, I personally witnessed this happen at a Casino in Reno. Many Tesla > destination chargers are wired to 277VAC. > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 5:31 PM Cor van de Water via EV > wrote: >> >> The only concern I would

Re: [EVDL] Are you NACS-charging a non-Tesla

The only concern I would have with using a TeslaTap on an unknown destination charger is that you are not guaranteed that the charger won't damage your non-Tesla EV. Because the Tesla charger is specifically specified to allow anything between 100-277V so, while not common, some electrician may use

Re: [EVDL] Tesla idle power draw

First of all, charging and discharging the batteries in the middle of their range hardly affects the life of the batteries at all. If for some reason you want to fully power off the Tesla and let it sit for months without looking at it, and you can have a jump start available when you return (even

Re: [EVDL] Reverse voltage spikes (was: Tesla contactors Re: pre-charge)

Correct, I have seen 60V transistors blow up when releasing the current in a 12V coil, so in order to still *quickly* release the energy from the coil, use some kind of voltage limiter (Zener, TVS, transzorb, MOV, pick whatever your preference to limit the peak voltage to below what the switching t

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: Pre-charge for charger?

I believe the Tesla onboard charger is always connected, both to the charge port and to the battery. The only contactors I saw in the box regulating the power are the two contactors for the Supercharging, which uses the same charging inlet as the AC charger, so the AC charger does see DC input duri

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: Pre-charge for charger?

Oh and contactors: both the small precharge contactor as well as the big pack connect contactors for positive and negative HV connection. All have 12V coil to operate them. I believe they are the Panasonic brand. On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 10:18 PM Cor van de Water wrote: > > FYI, many EVs use a pre

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: Pre-charge for charger?

FYI, many EVs use a pre-charge resistor for their 400V pack of 40 Ohms so a peak 10A for a fraction of a second. I have seen different specs on the power rating, I believe the last I saw was 60 W ceramic rectangle with spade connectors. I have used those for some slow discharge on a 40V battery mod

Re: [EVDL] Charging port locations

That is why it is recommendable that some jurisdictions are starting to implement *forward* angled parking spaces and requiring you to back into them. BTW, the city of Regina would need to change their bylaws to distinguish between the two types of non-90-deg parking spaces, IF they would follow th

Re: [EVDL] 2013 Tesla charger failure mode: anybody insight?

x charging), but this requires some hassle including >> altering the config so the car doesn't look for the 2nd slave charger. >> > >> > It's also possible to upgrade to the Gen2 charger, but it would require >> also replacing the HV junction box that contains the

Re: [EVDL] Old Rav4 for sale

Yep. Ones from 2002 and before were the Toyota-designed NiMH powered ones. I still have one, needs a bit of battery swapping and then it can go again (and be sold). On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 8:13 PM John Lussmyer via EV wrote: > > Is this one of the ones that has a Tesla drivetrain? > > https://www

Re: [EVDL] DC motor isolation issues

New should be infinite Ohms, because brushes are mounted isolated. The carbon dust covering the isolated material between brush and metal connected to the enclosure, is what causes the leakage. On Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 1:47 PM John Lussmyer via EV wrote: > I just went a spent a while crawling aroun

Re: [EVDL] DC motor isolation issues

Brush replacement is good to consider when you have the motor on your hands anyway, but it is not required if they have plenty life left. On Sat, Jul 20, 2024, 7:49 PM paul dove via EV wrote: > If it’s a brushed motor the dust can cause a fault. You need to clean it > all real good and replace t

Re: [EVDL] 2013 Tesla charger failure mode: anybody insight?

so the car doesn't look for the 2nd slave charger. > > It's also possible to upgrade to the Gen2 charger, but it would require also > replacing the HV junction box that contains the DCFC contactors and some > harnessing. > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 11:26 PM Cor van d

[EVDL] 2013 Tesla charger failure mode: anybody insight?

Hoping to find someone that has experience with the early Tesla model S and X 40A onboard charger. My S85 actually has 2, having the ability to take up to 80A, up to 20kW level 2 charging speed. But, recently it refuses to charge: everything seems ok when plugging in, but after half a minute the ca

Re: [EVDL] EVJECT

When it is truly a life or death situation, who cares about charging inlet or cable? You only need to be able to drive away. Grab a $0.25 12V relay. Install a panic button on yr dash (or re-use the 4-way flasher button) that will result in the relay interrupting the Proximity signal, or the Pilot.

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Another affordable EV

Being able to fold the driver seat flat is great for camping mode: sleep in your EV with light, heating, cooling, fan and even music available... On Sun, Jul 7, 2024, 4:41 PM EV List Lackey via EV wrote: > ... but maybe only for Europe and presumably Asia, I'm sorry to say. > There's no indicati

Re: [EVDL] AC Power export for Teslas

Phil, Thanks for the unintentional support - that is exactly what the startup that I joined half a year ago is doing. If you want more info, send me a PM or look up Relyion Energy (We're in Fremont, CA) where we are repurposing 2nd life EV packs by stripping them down into their modules and then re

Re: [EVDL] AC Power export for Teslas

Essentially, you need to pretend to be a complete DCFC and then "charge" with a negative current. Cor. On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 10:09 AM (-Phil-) via EV wrote: > > I don't yet have any instructions, and it's very complex. You have to > build hardware to generate and sense the 1khz 5% PWM pilot si

Re: [EVDL] Nissan Leaf modules installation VIVAN Chinese company

If he has warranty, then contact Nissan corporate and make a stink about the stealership. I drop Leaf pack using a low profile hydraulic jack, 2 axle stands, though 4 works easier, and a furniture dolly to drop the pack onto and roll it from under the car. Cor. On Wed, Jun 26, 2024, 5:06 PM Mark H

Re: [EVDL] Pros and cons

ally on freeways, standard height when off freeway. > > Peri > > > << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Cor van de Water via EV" > To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List"

Re: [EVDL] Pros and cons

So, how is Tesla passing with their adjustable height suspension? On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 5:59 PM Rush via EV wrote: > > The List lackey wrote - > > The Citroen E-C3 is 23,300 euros (about US$25k). Wih the French EV > subsidy, > > the price falls to between 15k and 18k euros, depending on your i

Re: [EVDL] charging leaf battery

Without opening a Leaf pack, you can charge it when you have a 12V source, a multi-voltage power supply with PFC, lightbulbs (I like the appliance bulbs that I rescue from dead microwaves) or power resistors and the plugs that go on the battery: the round control plug and one of the HV plugs. - fin

Re: [EVDL] Experiences with Cells from newpriusbatteries.com?

When you look at the gen2 hybrid pack, you see that it has the service disconnect with 9 modules on one side and 19 on the other side. Reason is that they simply chopped 10 modules out of one side of the original 38 module pack of the gen1 to create the 28 module gen2. Apparently that was less work

[EVDL] Experiences with Cells from newpriusbatteries.com?

Does anyone here have (long term) experience with the quality and behavior of the replacement Hybrid batteries from newpriusbatteries.com who are using *round* (D-cell shape) cells to build new Prius battery modules? I am considering a pack with those, now that at 200,000 mi the already refurbished

Re: [EVDL] Contactor recomendations?

Paul, The datasheet does not show any info about short term current limit versus long term, but rest assured that at that voltage you will never draw 600A very long and the average current draw will be closer to 50 Amps so there is plenty opportunity for the contactors to cool down if you ever did

Re: [EVDL] Hyundai Ioniq 5 N & Fast EV's

Remember that the Ioniq has an 800V battery pack, which can definitely help in bringing torque to the wheels... On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 5:38 PM Mark E. Hanson via EV wrote: > > Hi Dave etc, > > As you probably know by now - Romain Dumas who won the world's Pikes Peak > record in 2018 with the VW

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: seeking a third-party "portable" 120 Volt EVSE that plugs in more flush with the wall, similar to Tesla.

I still have 4 original Nissan LEAF convenience chargers. 2 of those have been converted to work on 240V as well, all are still the original 12A. Some are (well-) used, others are practically new. I bought them to convert and sell at a little profit, but now I am happy to just get the cost back. $1

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla.

I was surprised when I plugged my phone into my 2011 Leaf USB port to charge and it automatically started playing the music stored on my phone. Cor. On Sun, Apr 21, 2024, 2:43 PM Lee Hart via EV wrote: > And to point out what a geezer I am, my cars have (gasp) CD or cassette > tape players. On l

Re: [EVDL] NEMA 14-50 Receptacles for EVSE, EV Charging

Phil, NOPE! The *correct* designed EVSE will have a test circuit that indeed generates a GFCI test fault current but *only* in the EVSE's GFI circuit, not in the upstream 240V connection. The reason that an EVSE often trips the upstream GFCI is not due to the EVSE but due to the *huge* capacitance

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery pack for an E-10

Yep, best to use a (thin) conductor to tie all 3 center posts together and the cell level BMS. Although I have seen people chance it, depend on the low voltage cut-off of the load and the max voltage setting on the charger and hope the modules stay in balance... On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 7:13 PM Jay

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery pack for an E-10

Is your E10 being used in winter (snowblowing, ploughing)? If so, see to it that you can park your E10 in a location that is not below freezing. Or you can heat your batteries. Charging your (Leaf) Lithium batteries when they are cold (below freezing) will cause them to fail quickly from something

Re: [EVDL] 14/50 240V vs 6-50 (3 wire) receptacle for EV charge controllers

Mark, Modern EVSE do not use the Neutral, but early EVSE did for their control circuit power, because a 120V power supply was cheaper and easier to find than a 240V supply. Today all EVSE use a multi-voltage switch mode power supply, but just to illustrate: the first version of the Leaf convenience

Re: [EVDL] Ground presence (was: OT Solar Electrical Issues)

Yep, I made sure to use well under 1mA for the ground presence detect to avoid upsetting upstream GFI. Same with the built-in GFI test, I made sure to *not* introduce any ground fault current externally for the internal test. I heard stories that some EV Charger designers made that mistake and had

Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues

My experience in The Netherlands was that the PE ground was provided by the utility in parallel to the Neutral and phase connections, no local bonding other than that the water pipe or the steel radiant heating pipe was bonded to the incoming ground from the utility. The only place where the utilit

Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues (was: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array)

I remember that the city of Delft had its power distributed in a similar fashion as the USA, with two phases at 115V to ground and outlets wired with the two phases. Before the end of last century, when The Netherlands was also driving to eliminate all overhead wiring, even from rural areas, they a

Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues (was: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array)

tap" of the 240v transformer is what is bonded, so > thus each leg is only 120V over the earth. > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 6:33 PM EV List Lackey via EV > wrote: > > > On 11 Mar 2024 at 17:37, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > > > > > In my homes in either Ne

Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues (was: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array)

On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 4:52 PM EV List Lackey via EV wrote: > Circuit breakers are always double-pole, so they open both hot and neutral. In my homes in either Netherlands or India, only the phase was protected with a breaker. Neutral was wired straight from the service entrance to the circuits/

Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues (was: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array)

On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 1:35 PM Lawrence Winiarski via EV wrote: > That means our 240 has a slight advantage in that each leg is only 120v above > ground, while I think some countries have a 240 with a hot and neutralleg. The USA 240V is a split-phase system, meaning two 120V phases in 180 deg o

Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues (was: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array)

Lee, I have designed EVSE so you can quote me on this: The GFI limit that (level2, AC) EV Charging Stations are designed to for the USA is 20mA. (For EU the limit is 30mA, the same limit as the standard GFCI breakers in EU, although there is an additional requirement to detect 6mA DC Current leakag

Re: [EVDL] OT Solar Electrical Issues (was: Adding a 14/50 EV courtesy outlet to a solar array)

As a consequence of the higher voltage, the current is lower for the same power and where I hear a lot about electrical fires in the USA, that is a rarity in Europe, while here in the USA I personally know of two people who had a starting electrical fire in a power strip, one could barely keep the

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: No Apple EV

From a distance (virtually - I am physically quite close to this, but rarely hear any real reporting about it) I get the impression that Apple has a traffic light relation to EV development: ON - OFF - ON - OFF Many years ago there were local news reports about neighborhood complaints from the

Re: [EVDL] 156v Tech assistance needed

Hi John, Why do you say that unstable input power would affect longevity of the cells? What do you think happens under driving conditions? As long as you carefully monitor (with that BMS) that none of the individual cell voltages do not go over the max charge voltage, you can throw what you want to

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Would you crack your Tesla's Autopilot?

Usually the encryption keys found on user devices are not the same ones as used to generate the encryption, just the ones to decrypt, this is known as asymmetric encryption. The decryption key is often referred to as the public key, it is what anyone can openly use to decrypt what you have encrypte

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: More bad PR for Tesla

Number of accidents per driver per *brand*, really Without even compensating for miles driven? Or for model? That makes just barely more sense than me saying that I use 5 Amps per year. Of course Tesla vehicles are used *many* more miles (in long daily commutes) than other vehicles, especially

Re: [EVDL] Battery Testers

I use one of my current limited lab supplies, set it to a safe current like 30 or 100mA and the voltage to the max that the battery would charge to, then I connect it to the pack that refuses to charge, after verifying with a voltmeter that the external battery connections are not disabled by the B

Re: [EVDL] Shorting a A123 26650 Cell

Remember the crazy PSA to replace your (almost new, what a waste!) smoke alarm battery every half year? True story: one guy did that faithfully, collected all those nearly-new batteries for recycling in a baggie and... set his house on fire. Note that this were the puny 9v cells! I always regard th

Re: [EVDL] I destroyed an A123 26650 by shorting to the case.

Lawrence, when I removed some of the cells from that pack that you picked up, I cut the straps with heavy duty scissors. One time I accidentally shorted the cell I was removing while cutting and the current was large enough to bite a chunk out of the scissor blades... These are *very* low resistanc

Re: [EVDL] leaf 120 volt charging

Most EVs do it right and measure or calculate the AC input current and match it to the pilot signal's advertised max allowed current draw. Some EVs, I forgot which brand but we did detect this while testing the JuiceBox compatibility with all known brands of EV, but there were that appeared to dete

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Slipping

That's why I enjoy Brother brand printers, of all manufacturers they charge the least for their consumables. All other manufacturers are under heavy assault of aftermarket products and refill providers. But I guess that a cheap car and battery rental is a viable business case as has been shown, tho

[EVDL] Enerdel cells

I have a total of 30 Enerdel pouch cells, with the frame that allows screw connection for the two tabs at each side. I believe these cells are between 17 an 20 Ah each, not sure how to verify which version they are. Probably 5 year old and they have not been connected for the last 4 years. All are

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Affordable small European EVs on the way

I suppose we are waiting for a "Smart" size car from VW, for example if they bring an electrified version of the Up! That car is barely more than 11 ft long (3m 60cm) Cor. On Wed, Nov 15, 2023, 7:45 PM EV List Lackey via EV wrote: > I know of at least 3 EU automakers who are planning EVs in the

Re: [EVDL] EV charger placement [bp orders $100 million worth of Tesla EV chargers]

I believe that FastNed installs super fast DCFC at existing fuel stations along freeways in The Netherlands and is expanding to Belgium, France, UK and Germany. I guess exactly with this reason that existing stations already have the shops, restrooms and sometimes full sit down restaurants. BTW, "

Re: [EVDL] 'Facts' about EV's debunked

Michael E Ross wrote: > Yeah, unlimited is hyperbolic, but > there is no limit in my lifetime. I do not know if you have kids or nieces and nephews, heck even friends with kids. Is that what you tell them if they want to know if the earth will still be liveable in *their* lifetime? I can't look my

Re: [EVDL] 'Facts' about EV's debunked

Michael E Ross said there in not enough copper to electrify what is run by petrol now... You are aware that electricity distribution does not use any copper? Lines and transformers are all alu and I have not heard of an alu shortage. Only the very last step of low voltage end-user infrastucture (e

Re: [EVDL] nissan leaf fob key

Mike, Brands like Toyota let you add a fob with a little chicken dance of door slamming and pedal stomping, but Nissan always requires a computer to add a key, unfortunately... Cor. On Sun, Oct 22, 2023, 8:46 AM Michael A. Radtke via EV wrote: > Hello, > > I don't have a Leaf, so this is a gener

Re: [EVDL] Leaf headlights cover replacement saga

How about using one of the headlight cleaning kits that wears a thin layer off, I have had great experience with that on cloudy Prius and Leaf headlights. Cor. On Sat, Oct 14, 2023, 7:06 PM Mark Hanson via EV wrote: > Hi folks > I ordered on EBay a couple headlight assemblies for my cloudy 2013

Re: [EVDL] Bolt road trip

Interesting! We did that trip (visit Boston, then take a few days to explore Cape Cod) a year ago, also with a rental. I got a nice efficient ICE one but had not considered changing that to an EV as I am unfamiliar with the area and did not yet know what we were going to do (trips depending on mood

Re: [EVDL] Anybody in USA interested in 400VAC 11kW EV charging modules?

Last chance for anyone on the list to grab one or all four of these CAN bus controllable air cooled EV charging AC/DC conversion modules. Together they make a cool 100 Amp 500V 50kW charging station power converter. No offer too low, I just hate to see brand new electronics go to waste! Incidentall

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 3000lb of metal, parked

The Tesla owner parks her Model 3 in her *garage* and insists that she can't drive it because it does not have Supercharging availability and thus is worthless. Every EV'er with even a minimal experience in charging will see the fallacy presented here. Call it lying if you will. Apparently the batt

Re: [EVDL] EV Distance Record Smashed

Assuming this team drove their car continuously (24h) for those 6 days in the smooth concrete-floored hangar, then they did an average 11 MPH which means that fact alone got them 25 times lower wind drag than at 55 MPH. They also likely used extremely narrow and high pressure tires, again slashing

[EVDL] Anybody in USA interested in 400VAC 11kW EV charging modules?

I ended up inheriting 4 modules that are a standard charging module for European 3-phase 400V and can deliver up to 550V DC output. They are an older version of this module: http://www.pr-electronics.nl/media/documenten/10kW_Charger_datasheet_V22.190918.164023.pdf Since they are now located in Sili

Re: [EVDL] Anybody want a prototype 1400A 600V DC controller?

FYI, the same Power Ring Capacitor as in the controller, I am also selling on Ebay separately, so for who wants to make an efficient, very powerful and low inductance controller: https://www.ebay.com/itm/285421911378 I believe that list member Paul once published a 3-phase motor controller for Leaf

[EVDL] Anybody want a prototype 1400A 600V DC controller?

Has water-cooled IGBT with driver and a large ring capacitor, in and output via SB-350 Andersons with 2/0 cable. Spec says 1400A peak, 500A continuous. Has been on the shelf since about 10 years ago. Originally designed by EMW Pick up in Silicon Valley. Make me an offer, any accepted. NOTE: I can't

[EVDL] EVnetics Soliton 1 controller

Anybody interested in a used Soliton 1, which is a 1000 Amp DC motor controller? Pics on request, make me an offer. Located in Silicon Valley. Cor. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:

Re: [EVDL] Tires

Is there an Americastire.com store near you? Looking up *size* on their website, they have no 145 wide tires in 13" but for 155/80-13, I see 5 *available* tire models starting from $50 a tire. On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 5:35 PM EV List Lackey via EV wrote: > > On 21 Jun 2023 at 18:05, Lee Hart via E

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: EV Digest, Vol 127, Issue 14

For many years there have been a pair of 50kW CHAdeMO/CCS chargers on the next street corner, but recently a bank of 350kW chargers was erected in the parking lot of a nearby strip mall. If I am not mistaken, that is the same speed as on the Tesla Supercharging network. As long as your car supports

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla wants to buy out your free supercharging

by vin numbers because how else would they know who to charge? > > Still seems like you could use a CCS to Tesla adapter on a CCS charger. > > > Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > On Monday, April 24, 2023, 8:57 PM, Cor van de Water via EV > wrote: > > Paul

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla wants to buy out your free supercharging

this as well ;) >> What is it you are offering exactly? >> BTW, removed EVDL in case you don't want this all over the list, feel free >> to re-add. >> Cor >> Sunnyvale >> >> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023, 7:58 PM (-Phil-) wrote: >>> >>> I can pro

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla wants to buy out your free supercharging

r done that I would guess most people charge at home because of > convenience. > My supercharging is less that 20% of my charging. > I suspect you got your vehicle way below market value. > On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 03:45:32 PM CDT, Cor van de Water via EV > wrote: > >

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Tesla wants to buy out your free supercharging

In my PG&E service area, once you are over baseline consumption the minimum charge is $0.35 per kWh. So for me that charge would be well over a grand per year. My 2013 S used to have unlimited free supercharging, but the previous owner had a fender bender on the right rear quarter panel and as resu

[EVDL] Looking for Leaf BMS "LBC" from 40kWh pack

I got a pack (the modules) from a 40kWh Leaf but not the BMS (officially called LBC) and the voltage range of the cells is quite different, so the car is reporting low battery before the pack is half empty which makes it awkward to judge when it is *really* empty... I have a large amount of 2011-20

Re: [EVDL] Spark EV 2015 won't charge Code: P1EE6-00 "Unable to Charge"

Maybe a stupid question, but it has helped some before: Did your friend verify that when inserting the various charging handles, that the *latch* on the handle did click down again? If something has fallen into the inlet or if an O-ring has mis-positioned itself, it may be impossible to insert the

Re: [EVDL] How is tihis possible?

I wonder if these were two colleagues that got their company vehicles and accidentally received the wrong Tesla account for their App, so that while the keys worked on their own car, their Apps worked on each other's cars... Simple and not surprising, but you can get a lot of attention writing a cr

Re: [EVDL] FLA bad cell question

My experience with a shorted cell in a battery has been spotty. The short is not very reliable, for example a good bump of the battery can (and has) removed the short between the plates and allow it to work normally until the plates returned to original position or the short grew a bit longer and s

Re: [EVDL] BB600 NiCd batteries for sale

Steve, I will let you know if I find someone on the East Coast who is interested in local pickup instead of shipping! Cor. On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 2:03 AM Steve Gaarder via EV wrote: > > Thanks, Cor, for your commentary. I, at least, have never had a "hydrogen > experience" (great line!). > > I'm

Re: [EVDL] BB600 NiCd batteries for sale

Steve, I did not know (and could not find) their rated capacity. A local EV'er liked to experiment with different pack chemistries, from lead-acid via NiMH (Prius packs) to flooded NiCds and at some point, over a decade ago, he acquired enough cells to fill the two sides of a US Electricar S10 truc

Re: [EVDL] Tesla slashes its car prices for speculator reasons in click bait headline says advertisers who tesla never advertise with ($35k is here) (Tesla≠TaTa)

Funny to see the new prices - especially the Model S just under 95k as my 2013 S85 MSRP was originally... just under 95k (!) Regarding legacy prototype cars availability - while my 2013 is certainly not a prototype, it still shows a few of the original early issues, such as the touch screen leaking

Re: [EVDL] Sticky EV Problem

Tom, Did you use heatshrink on the cables? I know of many types of Heat Shrink that has heat activated glue inside to adhere to the cable it is crimped onto, maybe that glue migrated to the wire strands? Alternatively, maybe the cable insulation expelled something, possibly under high temp, which t

Re: [EVDL] the grid needs upgrading - fast

Jim, interesting short-sightedness. Rate payers today enjoy the investments done with money from rate payers of previous years, no? Cor. On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 5:05 PM jim--- via EV wrote: > > David said: > > Good luck with that. Most of our "investor owned" utilities don't have a > > good trac

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

I put a 62kWh pack from a 2019 into my 2012 Leaf. Took one afternoon with simple tools, like 2 axle stands and 1 hydraulic floor jack and a ratchet wrench. If you can find a pack you would be happy with, then I can provide advice how to do this. Most important part, currently unavailable, is the C

Re: [EVDL] leaf heater switch

Peri, Interestingly enough, I have only once managed to get close to 5 mi/kWh on my Tesla Model S, on a warm day without climate control I finally got the 30 mi average to dip to 202 Wh/mi just before encountering a hill that pushed the average up again, typical driving is about 250 Wh/mi. On my 20

Re: [EVDL] new battery technology moving past the labs

If you want to see a battery technology that is proven, safe, can take 50,000 cycles without much degradation and survive recharge cycles of 8 minutes, then look at Natron with their Sodium-Ion battery. Prussian Blue and seawater is essentially what their battery is made of. Unfortunately the energ

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: NC wants to eliminate free EV charging

Who says you'd need to provide an *automatic* pump? Install a hand crank pump that is geared to provide an ounce of gas every 5 minutes of hard cranking and you have met the required install, I doubt you will lose a gallon of gas a month through that pump, even though it dispenses at the same rate

Re: [EVDL] 1000 x solar break through. (was EV Digest, Vol 116, Issue 13)

PV is about 15-20% efficient (turning solar power into electricity) How do you improve that 1000 times? Cor. On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 6:30 PM Darryl McMahon via EV wrote: > > The paper refers to a 10^3 (1000) times improvement in efficiency of a > very specific process in the photovoltaic effect.

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: DC plans (accidental) EV tax

Sorry, but EVs *DO* cause damage to road surfaces and bridges, since EVs are relatively heavy for their size, so they typically are several hundreds of pounds heavier that the comparable sized ICE vehicle, unless the EV maker has *also* paid a lot of attention to the weight. The great benefits of E

Re: [EVDL] Why people dislike Tesla

I own and have owned several dozen EVs, mostly Nissan Leafs, but also RAV4EV (the 2002 NiMH variant) and a few electric trucks, mostly the 1994 S10 US Electricar conversion, which I still have 2 of. Recently bought a cheap 2013 Tesla Model S. Cheap because I never spend much on cars and I like fixi

Re: [EVDL] battery pairng

Peter, I think redscooter is talking about Nissan Leaf battery pairing (which can only officially be done by Nissan) but there are workarounds, now available with LeafSpy Pro Beta. The suggested idea of pairing via charging will certainly not work on Nissan leaf. Hope this clarifies, Cor. On Wed,

Re: [EVDL] Leaf 12 upgrade to 60kw

ck! > > > (Picture link: http://ingineerix.com/pic/?leaf60kwh ) > > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 5:49 PM EV List Lackey via EV > wrote: > > > On 11 Apr 2022 at 17:17, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > > > > > since the [Leaf battery] enclosure can't be opened

Re: [EVDL] Leaf 12 upgrade to 60kw

titool blade. Much easier than a Tesla pack! > > > > > > (Picture link: http://ingineerix.com/pic/?leaf60kwh ) > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 5:49 PM EV List Lackey via EV > > wrote: > > > >> On 11 Apr 2022 at 17:17, Cor van de Water via E

Re: [EVDL] Leaf 12 upgrade to 60kw

Availability of 62kWh packs is extremely limited, because all are takeouts from Salvage Leafs and since I believe this pack is only available since 2018, there is a finite number and the cars are still going for large sums in salvage sales. I wanted for a langer time to upgrade an older Leaf, both

Re: [EVDL] leaf 12 upgrade to 60kw

Oh and to answer the charging question: the car indicates that it will take indeed something like 20 hours to fully charge from empty. That is why I did get a Leaf with DC Fast Charge. Cor. On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 2:32 AM Cor van de Water wrote: > > I did the upgrade of a 2012 Leaf with 62kWh pac

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