Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla.

2024-04-25 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 25 Apr 2024 at 8:22, Mark E. Hanson via EV wrote: > Where can I buy a Zoe in the US - or import? That sounds like a great EV! Renault hasn't had US dealers since 1983, unless you count the Renault- licensed AMC Alliance and Encore, which AMC dealers sold until '87. So Zoes have never been

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla.

2024-04-23 Thread Rush via EV
st regards, Rush Dougherty TucsonEV 1014 E King St Tucson AZ 85719 520 240 7493 www.TucsonEV.com > -Original Message- > From: EV On Behalf Of EV List Lackey via EV > Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2024 1:31 PM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Cc: EV List Lackey >

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla.

2024-04-23 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
Aside from the fact that a '56 Chevy is stone-age compared to modern technology, how can you make a comparison? I thought most of the people who bemoaned electronics in cars have died off by now, or are too old to drive. Yeah, not everyone gets a UI right, but I much prefer the UI and systems in

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla.

2024-04-23 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 22 Apr 2024 at 19:22, Luke Scharf via EV wrote: > A high quality antenna and FM receiver might make it better. Or, you know, a factory radio that you can actually count on to pick up radio stations consistently. Even my dad's '56 Chevy had one. :-\ On 21 Apr 2024 at 22:14, Mark Hanson via

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla.

2024-04-23 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
I provided this link 6 days ago, no idea how well it performs, especially inside the Tesla, which has IR blocking metallic tint in all the glass, so signals inside the car are weak: https://amzn.to/3U5lUmq On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 9:25 PM Luke Scharf via EV wrote: > A device like this is what

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla.

2024-04-22 Thread Luke Scharf via EV
A device like this is what was suggested: https://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Transmitter-Receiver-LAICOMEIN-Headphones/dp/B0BDF8S8H4/ Combine it with something like this: https://www.amazon.com/ZHIWHIS-Portable-Transistor-Conference-Batteries/dp/B08JCNMJKF Plug it all together, pair it with the

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla.

2024-04-22 Thread Lawrence Winiarski via EV
It works that way because when you plug in a USB device it sends some data that tells the host what type of device you have.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#Device_classes Most likely your phone identified as a hard drive (mass storage device) or a media device (MTP)  and it started playing

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla.

2024-04-21 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
I was surprised when I plugged my phone into my 2011 Leaf USB port to charge and it automatically started playing the music stored on my phone. Cor. On Sun, Apr 21, 2024, 2:43 PM Lee Hart via EV wrote: > And to point out what a geezer I am, my cars have (gasp) CD or cassette > tape players. On

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla.

2024-04-21 Thread Lee Hart via EV
And to point out what a geezer I am, my cars have (gasp) CD or cassette tape players. On long lonely drives in the midwest, I listen to audio books or old classics on them. -- Excellence does not require perfection. -- Henry James -- Lee A. Hart https://www.sunrise-ev.com

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla.

2024-04-20 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
I guess I qualify as an old fart now too, but unless I really want to listen to NPR I either do streaming (free in my Tesla), or put music and audiobooks on a USB drive and the car plays that (Most cars built in the last 10 years can do this, and it's free!). Commercial radio is more advertising

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla.

2024-04-20 Thread Steves via EV
The other option is to download stuff to your phone before going out. Works for podcasts and at least some Internet radio stations (like RadioParadise). Frankly I don’t hear much on FM I like other than NPR. I got a free limited subscription to Sirius when I bought my car - ran through the

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla.

2024-04-20 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Agreed. I only have a cheap pay-as-you-go phone ($99 a year). I only use it for calls or texts. If I used it like most people, I'd be paying $99 a month for all that "free" data. The AM and FM radio in my Leaf works just fine, and is free to use. Lee -- Excellence does not require perfection.

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla.

2024-04-20 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 20 Apr 2024 at 4:06, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > most FM stations stream for free - you don't need any subscription. True. However, you need a generous - or unlimited - data subscription on your mobile phone. Folks who've abandoned their desktop and laptop computers and use their

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla.

2024-04-19 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
quot; Sent: 19-Apr-24 16:22:45 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla. In the era of streaming any am or fm radio station, radio reception ability is almost mute. A simple portable radio hooked to a Bluetooth transmitter is all you need, if you can't stream. Maybe for some peopl

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla.

2024-04-19 Thread Lee Hart via EV
> In the era of streaming any am or fm radio station, radio reception ability > is almost mute. > A simple portable radio hooked to a Bluetooth transmitter is all you need, if > you can't stream. Maybe for some people. But I happen to like listening to an actual radio, without having to

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla.

2024-04-19 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
All you need is a phone hooked to bluetooth.  Most stations stream free on the world wide web. Otherwise a simple digital radio has  surprising fidelity and selectivity. Might have to shop around a bit to satisfy your taste in radio. Lawrence Rhodes  On Friday, April 19, 2024, 04:22:49 PM

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla

2024-04-18 Thread Lawrence Winiarski via EV
Ditto On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 01:57:07 PM PDT, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: Sorry about that David.  I'll try and remember to trim my replies in the future. (Starting with this one)  Appreciate your vigilance and work on the list! -Phil -- next part --

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla

2024-04-18 Thread Ron via EV
>From the log: /runsv backgammon root 3825 0.0 0.0 2456 252 ?Ss Apr15 0:00 runsv backgammon-input root 3826 0.0 0.0 2456 1288 ?Ss Apr15 Is there really a backgammon game? If so, does this indicate that it's running as root instead of a more

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla

2024-04-18 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
Sorry about that David. I'll try and remember to trim my replies in the future. (Starting with this one) Appreciate your vigilance and work on the list! -Phil On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 1:18 PM EV List Lackey via EV wrote: > I'm over here with a plunger and snake, clearing a clog out of the >

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla

2024-04-18 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
I'm over here with a plunger and snake, clearing a clog out of the listserver. So this is what happened. Phil posted a very long message to the list, with a Tesla process list, and the listserver held it because of its size. Phil CCed Lawrence, and the replies went back and forth between

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla.

2024-04-18 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
In the era of streaming any am or fm radio station, radio reception ability is almost mute. A simple portable radio hooked to a Bluetooth transmitter is all you need, if you can't stream. Total cost starts under $20.  Lawrence Rhodes 

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla

2024-04-18 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
r, a good deal if you ask me) and in those > > almost 5 > > years I've done a reboot maybe 3 times > > > > And I take issue with your blanket statement 'I can't imagine that the > Zoe > > is > > any less computerized than a Tesla'. That, to me, just sounds like

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla

2024-04-18 Thread Lawrence Winiarski via EV
's saying anything to put down Tesla's. > > Best regards, > > Rush Dougherty > www.TucsonEV.com > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: EV On Behalf Of EV List Lackey via EV > > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2024 3:41 PM > > To: Electric Vehicle Discus

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla

2024-04-18 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
is > > any less computerized than a Tesla'. That, to me, just sounds like > someone > > that's saying anything to put down Tesla's. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Rush Dougherty > > www.TucsonEV.com > > > > > > > > > > > -O

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla

2024-04-18 Thread Lawrence Winiarski via EV
rds, > > Rush Dougherty > www.TucsonEV.com > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: EV On Behalf Of EV List Lackey via EV > > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2024 3:41 PM > > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > > Cc: EV List Lackey > > Subj

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla

2024-04-17 Thread Kevin Horton via EV
nal Message- >> From: EV On Behalf Of EV List Lackey via EV >> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2024 3:41 PM >> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List >> Cc: EV List Lackey >> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla >> >> On 17 Apr 2024 at 10:27, (-Phi

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla

2024-04-17 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
via EV > > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2024 3:41 PM > > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > > Cc: EV List Lackey > > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla > > > > On 17 Apr 2024 at 10:27, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: > > > > > It's normal to

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla

2024-04-17 Thread Rush via EV
> -Original Message- > From: EV On Behalf Of EV List Lackey via EV > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2024 3:41 PM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Cc: EV List Lackey > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla > > On 17 Apr 2024 at 10:27, (-Phil-) via EV

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla

2024-04-17 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 17 Apr 2024 at 10:27, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: > It's normal to need to do the first simple 5 second reboot on Teslas > every few weeks. Doesn't hurt anything and can make a sluggish UI fast > again. That's considered NORMAL? Seriously? Insanity. You can't expect drivers to reboot their

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla

2024-04-17 Thread Mark Hanson via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla

2024-04-17 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
The tuner is made by Harman. FM radio does not need AGC in the way you describe, as long as the discriminator can lock the carrier it will always decode at the same output level the transmitter modulated it at originally. Read up on the basics of FM radio. If your output level is varying, yet

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla

2024-04-17 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
Yes, there are 3 types of reboot: the approximate 5 seconds scroll wheel reboot, this can be done anytime, even while driving, even with Autopilot engaged. Just hold until the screen goes black and release 2nd type "hard" (or Gateway reboot): Press and hold brake, hold scroll wheels until you

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla

2024-04-17 Thread Kevin Horton via EV
If the Owner's Manual can be believed, the brake pedal is not required. Have you tried that reboot without using the brake pedal? I did that a handful of times while driving in my early days of Tesla ownership. I haven't had to do it for two or more years. Cheers, Kevin > On Apr 17,

Re: [EVDL] Adding a FM radio to a Tesla

2024-04-17 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
There is no easy solution here. Admittedly I almost always use streaming audio on my Tesla rather than FM, but when I have used it, I didn't have any issues. You might have a defective radio tuner. Worth replacing to see if it fixes your issue. Anything else you do will be sub-par. Here's a