Benjamin Sher wrote:
Just for the record: RealPlayer 8.0-1 rpm will NOT install. No big deal.
I'll keep using Real7.
Benjamin, hunt down the .bin file for RP8. It works. You'll need it
as more and more sites are requiring it for display.
Cheers --- Larry
It should be. i686 architecture began with the PPro and continued on until
the P3. The K6-2 is of that generation of processors.
Mandrake doesn't seem to know that :-) I have the same problem Ken
has and I'm running an AMD K6-2 500.
Cheers --- Larry
The point is unix, linux, seems to be the last refuge of the propellor head
who tends to guard the domain jealously. It is a large body of work with
great power which is tremendously badly explained. I mean it's all very
The Linux/UNIX community has regularly suggested that Bill Gates is
1. Distribution bashing attitude (this is not the same as pointing out
negative aspects of some distributions, but insulting people because they
don't use distribution X or Y)
Geez, Claudio. Are you a knuckle dragger or something? Everyone
knows you should be using distribution X :-)
2.
lazy newbie would ask such a question. I find it most ironic that the
very people who created such a wonderful, intuitive user-friendly
desktop as XFCE could be so hostile to the user himself. This is
The downside of the Linux community is that it's full of smart, brash
and ill-bred kids :-)
I do like XFCE in spite of its shortcomings (e.g. the icons do not line
up properly on the desktop -- some are too larege, others too small).
Ah...you mean you can make icons on the desktop (grin)? I couldn't
find anything that would allow me to do that. I guess I'm going to
have to set
A diversity of desktops/window manager, not to mention distros may be
great for computer people and Linux aficionados But, I must agree, that
what is great and refreshing for Linux folks may be very intimidating
and confusing for Joe Average. And Linux may be missing a historic
What
How in the world do you close down an application in XFCE that is
frozen? I have tried Cnt +F4. I have tried to click on the X in the
From within a terminal window you could execute xkill. This should
change your pointer and you can just click on the frozen app and it'll
be gone.
Cheers ---
Does anyone have a suggestion for a parallel port flatbed scanner that is
under $150 and will work with Linux?
Jeff, it is my understanding that none of the parallel scanners work
with Linux. Frankly, I can't imagine buying one these days since USB
scanners are more common.
Cheers ---
Sorry to hear that. My old system does not have USB
I guess I will have to continue using my ancient scanner under windows.
What a shame.
Can't you buy a USB card? I thought that was possible. If so, it
might be a cheap way to be able to buy a Linux-compatible scanner.
That's pretty
Be that as it may, I can't now seem to log into KDE. I have rebooted
several times, as I usually do into runlevel 3, and from the console
I think your problem has a simple solution. At the login prompt, look
at the bottom of the dialog. It should say xfce. Note that you can
select here.
You can purchase an older scsi scanner and pci scsi card
and they work MUCH BETTER than the USB devices.
Can you define "MUCH BETTER"? Do you mean the transfer rate is faster
or that they work better with Linux for some reason? If the former,
in my experience this hardly matters.
A 39$
Now, I see no evidence that the CD-RW drive is being seen as "scsi" so I
still am unable to burn any CDs with it.
Did you do:
cd /dev rm cdrom2 ln -s scd0 cdrom2
You need to build that softlink for the emulation to work.
Cheers --- Larry
Try out GAG. I use it in conjunction with LILO. I install LILO in the boot
sector of the /boot partition and then install GAG in the MBR. If you cannot find
GAG on the net, let me know and I will email it to you.
I don't think GAG lets you run the two operating systems
simultaneously. It
Vic wrote:
Why did cdrecord screw up a cd that I tried to
make and xcdroast did not?
You got lucky? I haven't looked closely at xcdroast but all of the
GUI cdburner programs I've looked at use cdrecord to do the real
work. All they do is hand cdrecord the proper commandline
parameters.
I completely understand what you're saying, but unless the creators of
Netscape and those responsible for maintaining and changing it decide to
write it to do the things being suggested in this thread it's not going
Oh...you're just saying "That's the way it is, deal with it." Well,
you're
While I understand this to be a desire of many who use the browsers in
this manner, I don't understand "why" this is. The browser was never
designed to do such a thing. Why would one want it to? Why not just kill
Mark...look at what Konquerer is doing and think about the question
you just
I have Mandrake 7.1 with CUPS installed. Gimp refuses to print. What
should I do to make GIMP recognize and print through cups?
Under print setup (upper right hand part of dialog that comes up when
you try to print something), set it for Postscript level 2 and then
put xpp in the "command"
Do yourself a major favor and wait 3 or 4 days. Then they will be available
for 2.1 through Mandrake Update. KDE 2.1 is in it's final stages of
pre-release work.
This is sure good news Chris. Thanks for this announcement.
Cheers --- Larry
Here is my lilo.conf file too this is really bugging me as
I want to try out different kernels and the such, and the floppy
boot thing has to go.
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.17-21mdk
root=/dev/hdc11
Is your root REALLY on the 11th partition of channel 2 master or
should that be a 1, not
I installed win98 and Mandrake 7 on my computer,it works fine,but
when I reinstalled win98 yesterday,I can not boot into Mandrake any
more, any help? have to install Mendrake once more?
What you did was overwrite the master boot record when you reinstalled
Windows. Boot into Mandrake using
Alfredo Cole wrote:
There is a print-to-fax howto for efax. If you don't have, I can send it to
you privately.
Can anyone direct me to a Linux app that will display .asf files? I
thought RealPlayer handled them but it doesn't seem to.
Cheers --- Larry
At the first reboot during installation, the system freezes and goes
into hard lockup after the initialization of ide0 and ide1. After
that he is forced to do a hard-reboot to get the system going
Yes, I've seen exactly this. Can't say I came up with a solution but
the computer had a
We are not ending our distro. There is just a move to put effort into these
other areas. This is not a bad thing, this is a good thing.
Whether good or bad, it's another indicator of the problems Linux is
going to have moving onto the 'typical' desktop as long as people
marketing (spending
I do not advise going to the new glibc, I differ in the opinion of my
employers with this (ok, I am now going to get shot) I think that the
developers of gcc have a reason for advising us not to use the latest
Please convince your employers that you are right (grin). I like
Mandrake but
Does anyone know how to make print work from Konqueror on MD7.2? Print
I haven't been using Konquerer as my browser but I just popped it up
and tried to print. I went to a site and hit the print button. Up
popped the print dialog but the 'ok' button was grayed out. What I
found was that
It was mentioned on the cooker list in response to this query "april
..may" by one of the developers. AFAICT, it'll be a 2.4.0 kernel, not
2.4.1, and most likely KDE2.1 all of which are readily available
already.
While true, it would sure be nice to have it all in one place
Well hell's bells Robert, when I saw your reply I tried it. Konq
does just fine, M18 doesn't. Gives me a bunch of annoying mesg's which
Can anyone tell me how to get a scroll mouse working in Konquerer? It
works in every other Linux app I have, including other KDE apps, but
not in
Has anyone managed to get Mandrake Update to work? Whenever I try,
I get "Cannot retrieve the list of packages to update...Try with another
mirror". I ftp'ed over to some of the mirrors and they're up.
Just popped it up and retrieved the update list. No problems here.
Doesn't help much
I have downloaded and installed rp8.linux20.libc6.cs1.i386.rpm. It works
fine here.
Larry, did you uninstall rp7 before installing it? I just discovered
something. Since you guys claimed no problem I downloaded it again.
Here's what happens:
if "rpm -ivh rp8*.rpm"
then "Burp...rp8
Marc, what you desire and suggest corresponds exactly with the mindset of
those powerful entities who want to establish ubiquitous e-commerce on
*our* internet: they want to own and control the internet. They represent
*big* money and influence *big* government. The collection of "evil"
Would very much appreciate your help with figuring out why my new
Earthlink/Covad/ADSL works in Win98 but not in Linux.
It sounds like you haven't set up rp-pppoe. If you're running 7.2,
just run that on the commandline and answer the questions.
Cheers --- Larry
No I have absolutly no experience editing files. So go flame away. I am a newbie and
I dont understand sue me. You started somewhere too. Kick me off the list for all I
care. Excuse me for not being a genius.
Whether you're a genius or not is irrelevant. Having an attitude like
the one
I've installed Mdk 7.2 in french and I've problems with the accentuated
caracters.
The "", "", "", "", etc. aren't displayed correctly.
Pierre, these display just fine on my Mdk7.2 box. Have you tried
using different font sets? Some of them don't support accented
characters.
Here some
I've installed Mdk 7.2 in french and I've problems with the accentuated
caracters.
The "", "", "", "", etc. aren't displayed correctly.
To illustrate you that, I typed these caracters and saved them in a file,
but in windows, they are corrects.
Pierre, I guess I haven't had enough coffee
I just spoke with the customer service rep at New England Business Services,
LLC.
Chris, why are these guys (or Mandrake for that matter) so shy about
charging for such a service? It's ridiculous that you are going to
sell those CDs for $4.00. Is it out of the realm of the Linux
movement
It's considered rude because we of the linux world often use high power mail
clients. Like 'mail' or 'pine' or 'elm' : ) Those clients show the mail as
straight, unrendered HTML. So when HTML-ified mail comes in, it looks tacky,
Another reason is that it assumes that everyone likes YOUR
Have others here also had the problem where editing a long
command line using bash (in vi mode) within an xterm causes
Yes, I had that problem just last night.
might depend on resized xterm windows that were at one time
wider than 80 columns or wider than their initial size.
This was the
Anyone got an educated guess when LM will be publishing a version with a
2.4 kernel??
The 7.2 Deluxe box I looked at last week said something about the
2.2.17 kernel and being able to try the 2.4 kernel. That box, by the
way, made no reference to KDE 1.99 either.
Been waiting to upgrade to
But wait until Monday evening.. !!! ..
Major fixes/updates happening this weekend!
This is exciting. Thanks for the update.
As long as I'm writing here, I thought I'd mention that I've become a
CUPS lover. It does take a bit of effort to get the proper stuff for
your system. I
Control center | Look'n Feel | Theme manager
It's the last item under Look'n Feel on my system. I don't know how
well it works, I don't use themes
Tom, I'm not a theme-oriented guy so I never looked for this. But I
just checked my installation (KDE2.1-0101) and it's not there. Is
Description: RealMedia File
MIMEType: application/vnd.rn-realmedia
Suffixes: .rm
Application: /usr/bin/realplay %s
For what it's worth, I just checked mine and there are slight
differences from this. First, there are no periods in front of the
extensions. Second, it appears that at least
What is an acceptable level? For free software? This is a question without
While this has been discussed (to death??), as long as the Linux
community responds to criticism by climbing behind a "hey, it's free;
take what you get", there will be few advances into the Windows market
share.
To
Tonight I updated from KDE2.1-1213 to KDE2.1-0101. While I was at it
I downloaded the rest of the rpms that Chris had made available. This
included some CUPs stuff, qt, etc. When I did a test upgrade (and
when I did the real thing) I got an error I haven't seen before.
Because I was running
I've been trying to get RealPlayer to play a link when I click on it (in
either Konqueror or Netscape) with absolutely zero luck. Has anyone gotten
this to work?
Hmmm...can't help you much here Brian except to say that this works
fine with RP7.0 and Netscape4.75. I've never given it a
Actually what I'm getting looks a lot like the ink tanks are running dry. But
really they're not. There's plently of ink in them. In Kmail the email
addresses and URL's are a pastel blue in color, these don't print at all. And
Mark, does it get worse as the print job gets farther along?
LM7.2. But, I think my point is still valid for a lot of people's
upgrades.
No doubt about it Victor, I maintain a box for playing. My comments
were related to the difficulties of getting version 7+ of ANY
operating system to do basic things without having to relearn the
entire operating
Tom Eastman wrote:
[tom@celleste bin]$ ls -ld /usr/bin/mh
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root1 Dec 29 2000 /usr/bin/mh - ./
Why is there a symlink in /usr/bin called mh which points straight back to
/usr/bin???
Is this kind of recursive symlink a bad thing? or can I just ignore
Then you must add:
/sbin/modprobe ide-scsi
/sbin/modprobe sg # also reports on ATAPI CD-R device
to the end of your /etc/rc.d/rc.local
No such stuff at the end of my rc.local but mine works. What is this
doing Ron? Is this assuming the kernel doesn't have support?
By the way, which device am I actually burning to? its an ATAPI
drive, and since I'm not experienced with SCSI [including ATAPIs
SCSI emulation], I'm not quite sure. Is it /dev/scd0?
Yes, if you look at the code I provided
cd /dev rm cdrom ln -s scd0 cdrom
it creates a link from cdrom
I need to re-arrange my hard drives in my computer.
Essentially my Linux hard drive hdd will become hda.
How can I do this without losing my system? How many places in linux will I have
to tell that the hard drive is now in a different place?
Unless you need to move the actual
How do I make new home, startup, cdrom, etc items on my
desktop so that they actually work?
Praedoras root in a console, type:
chown -R praedor.praedor /home/praedor
then type:
update-menus -v
Does this work for you with KDE2.1? I've just started using 2.1 and
it seems to
supermount but cannot recall the syntax and there is no backup fstab with the
supermount entries in them.
/mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660 dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0
So. I now have the Trash and Home directory icons working on my desktop. I
need to now try AGAIN to create my
What is libkscan
Can't answer this one.
and is it really needed?
By inference I can suggest an answer to this one. If you install
KDE2.1, installing thd kdeaddutils rpm with --nodeps, everything seems
to work. I've been running it for a few days now and it's the first
time I've felt LM7.2
It seems to be both a printer driver issue AND a printer hardware problem.
I built and installed the gimp-print 4.1.0 package and changed my epson
driver to that. Now I can print from konqueror and kmail but, again, the
printing is partial - even though I have a new black ink cartridge
Now, I'm reading also this ML, but am getting lots of mails
twice... just want to know if this happens frequently. I tried
unsubscribing and then subscribing again with the result that I
either get nothing or get lots of emails twice.
All the time..so much so that people have almost stopped
Now that's what I call dancing on the razors edge. Clearly some folks are
able to do what you're doing. I've had nothing but trouble and torment
when trying to run Mandrake with Celeron/Intel hardware. WD is definately
Mark, if there's one thing an observer of the Linux community should
Mike MacCana wrote:
That's true [both projects contain some unique code], but StarOffice, in
terms of future development, is essentially dead. So feature requests
[and perhaps also bug reports] should be directed towards openoffice.
Mike...is the OpenOffice group planning on separating the
Is it sufficient to edit /etc/lilo.conf and the changes are directly
reflected in the boot menu? What about /boot/grub/menu.xxx
It seems that lilo is non-functional. Why is it still installed?
With grub you just edit the list. With lilo you run lilo after you
make the lilo.conf changes. As
You know...if I didn't know better I'd say you both were trying to install
Mandrake on Celeron processor machine with Western Digital hard
drives. It's a hardware issue. You may want to look at the drives, or the
chipsets on the mobo's themselves. Celerons and mandrake aren't known to
Gee
actually Larry I'm not so sure about that. Not 100% positive that you're
correct and I'm wrong about this either. But I thought about this when I
first setup Sendmail and the account with dyndns.org. So, I sent myself a
test message from work one day knowing full well that I wouldn't be home
No you don't need a static IP although it is preferable. I run everything
dynamic at home. Only problem is that ISPs like AOL won't accept E-mail
from dynamically assigned IP addresses to their relay servers due to Spam
protection. BTW I prefer postfix.
Nobody has mentioned that people
Jeff Malka wrote:
Is there a linux equivalent to Partition Magic.
I own a copy of PM and I know that PM is compatible with linux. But PM uses
Linux will read a much larger hard drive than the bios can read in dos.
Therefore linux can read and use partitions beyond what the bios can see
I keep getting the following Netscape error message for no reason at
all:
"Bookmarks have changed on disk and are being reloaded."
Sounds like you've got more than one Netscape running at one time and
are adding bookmarks to bookmarks.html with one and then trying to
read them with the
Ranish Partition Manager. I believe that it's a dos
program, but his docs seem to touch on some functionality
beyond that of PM. I haven't had time to download and
experiment with it yet but I plan to get a round tuit. :-)
Alan, I think this is one of those situations where "better than"
holds true for normal packages, but also for the kernel RPM. There isn't
any mystic involved in a kernel RPM, so a rpm -qpi kernel.rpm will tell you
exactly where everything is going to end.
Now with tarballs I often have a hard time figuring out where everything is
placed after a make
rpm --root $HOME ...
allows you to put it anywhere you want. If you intend to do everything as user,
Thanks Alex, this is one that I missed and it sure changes my view of
rpms.
you probably should consider adding "--dbpath" option so that you don't mix your
system rpm database.
Mostly
You should be able to do a cd to cd burn of the 7.1 disk and it will be bootable (as
long as the original is bootable).
That's what I would think too Scott. It's unclear what I'm doing that
caused me to produce a non-bootable CD but I've done it twice and the
darn things just won't boot (I
Can someone help me interpret the mkisofs manpage? I need to copy a
LM7.1 install CD.
What do I put on the mkisofs commandline to make the iso file
bootable? There seem to be several options and all require that I
point to a bootfile. Anyone know where that is and how I make it all
happen?
too much. I think they would be annoyed to have to deal with CUPS as
a default. It might mean they would choose another Linux
distribution. Why make CUPS the default? Why not at least give
the installer the choice?
If you do an expert install you are given this choice.
Cheers --- Larry
What is "mr proper"?
Mark, this is a routine in the kernel Makefile that cleans up from a
previous compile so you start with a fresh workspace.
Cheers --- Larry
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John Rye wrote:
Scott Walker wrote:
vmlinuz = compressed with gzip
bzImage = compressed with bzip2 - smallest foot print, but slower to load...
So, there is an option 'somewhere' to select the gzip or bzip2
footprint?
I don't think so. I sent John my opinion via email but rethought
Alexander Skwar wrote:
So sprach skidley am Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 02:44:02PM -0400:
I hate kernel rpms and think thye shouln't exist as rpm, it sucks, get the
tarball and do a "real" kernel compile.
Any particular reason why you don't like the enhancements and bugfixes done
Alexander,
Has anyone got win4lin to work with 7.2.. I just found this today and
tried it..
However, upon install, it stated I was using a non-standard kernal (
yea, 2.2.17-mdk )..
I assume you're dealing with the downloadable evaluation copy.
What's happening is that the script is verifying the
1. Put the full path in the Ececute tab of the *.kdelink, or
2. Put a symbolic link in /bin that points to your program.
I believe the "standard" way of doing this is to put a symbolic link
in /usr/bin, not /bin.
Cheers --- Larry
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do an automatic installation, only prompting say for IP address etc?
RedHat used to have something called a "kickstart" or something as I
recall, with a script you could use. Does Mandrake have this?
I need to install about 15 machines all identical, but with different
IP addrs etc.
# chown options /var/sparespace
# chgrp options /var/sparespace
"chown user.group /var/sparespace" does the same thing I believe.
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I am planning on buying an inexpensive Digital Camera pretty soon. Can
anyone recommend one that works well with Linux Mandrake?
You might want to load up gPhoto and take a list of the cameras
supported by it. I've found that this is not an all-inclusive list (I
have an Agfa CL-50 and use
I will try, just seems a bit odd that the output I posted is cdrecord's
output from within one of the gui programs I tried.
cdrecord is the writer app being called by all the shell programs. I
believe you said you have a Sony drive. When doing multi-session
writes you need to add an extra
system. I thought a cool way to do this would be to set up a
linux-partition-in-a-file the same way that Linux4Windows does.
Uh...why?
Can anyone talk me through the process? Or point me to a website/FAQ/HOWTO
Maybe talk you out of it (grin)? Why don't you simply tar them and
store them
I always alias cp with '-p' for root because I usually want to preserve
permissions when copying files. I have never had a problem with it not
keeping the old permissions. Should I expect that they could be lost in
some cases?
When copying to /mnt/windows perhaps (grin)?
Cheers --- Larry
:~I have about 9GB of unused space since I uninstalled Be. My home directory
:~its own partition. Do you think it would hurt my Mandrake if I used is as
:~my home in Debian. I have a backup of it on a seperate partition, and a
:~compressed backup on a CD, but I'd like to not use those if
I don't meet the same problem with my 7.2 upgrade. It seems rpm scripts
were not properly run (/usr/bin/gcc /usr/bin/emacs don't "belong" to
any package, so they were set up by script).
This is interesting as I've just checked both of my 7.2 installations and
these files are right
and I have a question for when it freezes during video driver recognition
and xconfiguration. Anyway, how can you fix this? I tried to run
xconfigurator and I couldn't find it. Is there a replacement to this in
7.2? There is a clear warning that the system might freeze so there must be
/usr/bin/kdesu -s /usr/bin/nmapfe
If I type this in at a command prompt I get prompted for root's password,
which is what I want. But when I put the same command line in the menu nmapfe
runs as the user I am logged on as. This is getting annoying. Any ideas?
Yep...try using -c rather
Errr...I made a typo in this email. The real command line I am trying to run
is:
/usr/bin/kdesu -c /usr/bin/nmapfe
Then I don't have any ideas as this syntax works just as it should here.
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I know mandrake has advertised chinese support...and currently I was able to
get it in all the titlebars of KDE applications...however...
I am not able to get any big5 fonts to appear in my windows...
Todd, I don't know anything about this but have you found the document in
the
Now since mdk 7.2 has xfree 4.0 I have the SAME problem ( duh, guess its
xfree 4.0?? :) )
Why don't you just install using 3.3? When you do an expert install
you're asked which you want to use.
Any clues and/or drivers are welcome!
I would suggest that you reflect on your Linux history.
my uptime gets reset once everyday.. Is there anyone who knows why and how
can uptime get reset?
I'm not sure what's going on but I'd be checking cron.daily as that's
probably where the explanation lies.
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Not only that, the new stuff should be at the TOP of the reply
rather than the bottom. For the few that need context, it is there,
And wrong again. The new stuff should be right below what you are quoting,
so that the references are as clear as can be.
I'm glad you've got this all
The installation appeared to take over 2 1/2 hours (not even a cold
installation takes that long!). Is this a matter of how the CD was
Upgrades take a LOT longer than clean installs because the installer has
to check/compare all packages and dependencies rather than simply
installing stuff
So sprach Larry Marshall am Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 04:55:50PM -0500:
If you don't have the kernel source you need to download the rpm and
install it.
But you won't need the full kernel source. The kernel headers rpm is good
enough.
Interesting to know (I've never had need to compile
Then again, why run VMWare for Office when it runs under wine ?
Larry Marshall wrote:
I have had no success in trying to run office 2000 under wine,
any tips that may help?
I do have Visual Basic operational to about 99% under Wine
release 20001002.
--
Ken Thompson
Electrocom
Has anyone tried to get LM 7.2 working with the old X server package
yet? The VMWare site is pretty adamant that they aren't ready for 4.0.1
If you do an expert installation you can choose 3.3 or 4.01.
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Right, and what's more important at least for me, is that you don't need to
shutdown Linux...
Absolutely. This is the number one reason I'm spending time with it.
have multiple installations of Windows running at the same time, heck, even
Windows NT + Windows 9x + BeOS + ... all at the
Here's a solution: don't use VMWare at all.
Great idea.
Just get StarOffice and mount your Windows partition in Linux, then you never even
have to
bother with the Microsoft products and you don't need to move your files
Another good one...if my needs were the same as yours. I'd agree
P.S. - with complete I could find no way to not install without supermount support,
and the installation guide
states that it was written for power pack, so not all things are the same, boy is
that an understatement.
You should be able to load up fstab and get rid of the supermounting if
you
First, Word format is flakey, and varies even from versions of Word with
Uh huh...sure.
the same version number. If you can get your correspondents to export
documents as RTF, you may have better luck. Similarly when they re-import
your files they will have better luck if you ship as RTF.
I just did a clean install of 7.2. I noticed that when I have tried to
compile something (for example, the latest Wine SRPM) that it has been
crashing with a file not found error.
I have narrowed the problem down to the fact that /usr/src/linux is not in
the path, or include path, or
Please don't confuse Mandrake with Macmillan. OTOH, all new releases have to be
When it comes to distribution of Linux Mandrake they are one and the same.
considered experimental. Linux as well as *the other*. Usually they'll tell
you so if you ask. But Mandrake tries to get the known
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