Oh dear Oh dear
I could guess a discussion of the merits of vi(m) would cause much argument.
I have been using UNIX variants for 12 years now.
And have run courses on UNIX and editors such as vi.
I also am a great fan of Windows based computing for ease of use purposes.
I also don't
I must be missing something here.
The editor I get when I type "vi" in a console/terminal/whatever
is simple to use. Cursor keys work just as I expect them
to. If I want to start inserting stuff, I just type an i
and the word INSERT appears at the bottom. Then I move around
with the cursor keys,
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, you wrote:
What's so hard about that? Even the old DOS "edit.exe" wasn't
any easier.
If that's too hard to learn how to do, the person isn't a newbie,
they're an idiot.
Yes, I know there are advanced features that require learning a little
more to use, but by the
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, you wrote:
Oh, and another thing:
This *is* an expert list. Experts usually know how to use a basic editor
and how to change the default editor when they need to.
-Stephen-
Excellent point.
Can't this thread just die? I think the only thing that could have been more
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, you wrote:
Oh, and another thing:
This *is* an expert list. Experts usually know how to use a basic editor
and how to change the default editor when they need to.
-Stephen-
Sorry for the dumb question, but how does one who does not
know about it learn about it if
Vic wrote:
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, you wrote:
This *is* an expert list. Experts usually know how to use a basic editor
and how to change the default editor when they need to.
-Stephen-
Sorry for the dumb question, but how does one who does not
know about it learn about it if they do
Couldn't the default editor be chosen depending on what kind of install
you chose (e.g., automatic -- CoolEdit or whatever, customized/expert
-- emacs/vim) in future releases of Linux-Mandrake?
And remember, vi/vim can't be the editor from Hell; that's where all the
M$ products come from :-)
I use an small and free, but efficient, html editor/word processor from
http://www.fookes.com called Super Note Tab. If it will work under Wine,
you should be quite happy
Pj
At 07:50 PM 8/14/00 -0500, you wrote:
On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Mallard wrote:
Why did Mandrake pick the most geekyist
At 07:50 PM 8/14/00 -0500, you wrote:
On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Mallard wrote:
Why did Mandrake pick the most geekyist editor for a setup that is
suposto be easy for users?
It's the unix tradition :)
Anyone else seen this joke of a program?
Yes, and I use it almost daily
With Vim all you
On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Mallard wrote:
Why did Mandrake pick the most geekyist editor for a setup that is
suposto be easy for users?
It's the unix tradition :)
Anyone else seen this joke of a program?
Yes, and I use it almost daily
With Vim all you have to do is spend a half hour
Why did Mandrake pick the most geekyist editor for a setup that is
suposto be easy for users?
Anyone else seen this joke of a program?
With Vim all you have to do is spend a half hour trying to get it give
you help, then scroll all the way to the bottom of a super long
whoopy-do list of usless
Mallard:
I agree with you 200%!
I have wasted all kinds of time trying to work with "UNIX"
tools that are outdated and clumsy, except for the geeks who
thought they were cute. They aren't.
I have been writing useful 'C' programs for 20+ years (obviously not in
UNIX/LINUX) and have never seen
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Subject: Re: [expert] Vi/Vim - The editor from HELL! How do I set the
default editor so I can TRASH IT?
Mallard:
I agree with you 200
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Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 1:33 PM
Subject: [expert] Vi/Vim - The editor from HELL! How do I set the default
editor so I can TRASH IT?
Yea, I am pissed. All I wanted to do is set up my cron file
Calm down; vi is part of the linux heritage, and will therefor always be around.
Well, enough peoble have been ranting about that.
If you want another editor (let's assume pico in our example), put this line
somewhere in /etc/profile:
export EDITOR="pico"
Hope this helps you calm your nerves.
lp improve the product.
-Original Message-
From: Bill Hudspeth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 2:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [expert] Vi/Vim - The editor from HELL! How do I set the
default editor so I can TRASH IT?
Mal
I think the whole discussion is important in that it points out
at least one of the problems in documentation of a very complex
system. I, for one, have been using vi since the 80's, and it's
practically always my editor of choice. Why? Because I know it.
Frankly, I've never recommended it for
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