[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen people sit and watch someone levitate and admit it verbally as it happens and then get up and leave the room and then claim the next day that it never happened, and that they had never said such a thing.

[FairfieldLife] Yahoo, world's most popular e-mail, hit by worm

2006-06-14 Thread rama krishna
LAS VEGAS (Reuters) - Yahoo Inc., the world's largest provider of e-mail services, said on Monday that a software virus aimed at Yahoo Mail users had infected "a very small fraction" of its base of more than 200 million accounts. The e-mail virus, or worm, has been dubbed Yamanner and landed

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TorquiseB writes snipped: Life is *full* of contradictions. So, as far as I can tell, is enlightenment. Before enlightenment, Chop Suey and contradictions; after enlightenment, Chop Suey and

[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/13/06 9:23 AM, Michael Murphy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, Rick, thats interesting. I would love to teach TM at a reasonable price once in a while. I know someone who does this. There are several who

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@ wrote: TorquiseB writes snipped: Life is *full* of contradictions. So, as far as I can tell, is enlightenment.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@ wrote: TorquiseB writes snipped: Life

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@ wrote: TorquiseB writes snipped: Life

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bad War Karma?- U.S.Murder rate increases...'

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
This wartime karma is already evident in high gas prices, will be future evident in terrorist actions of the newly made enemies, as the friends of enemies become more enemies and the children of our targets who were merely collateral grow up, and finally increase of heroin use, the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
This reification of a concept of some 'nature' is a fallacy. After enlightenment, there is not much ownership, it is just easier to do what nature wants because it is easiest to support nature, and in turn nature supports us. I know it sounds crazy, but it is simply the way it is. So

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
Yes, of course. And the experience of Self realization is nothing more than reaching a level of functioning where this is unimpeded. Nothing more than just that. "Practice makes perfect".This idea of a level of functioning is a fallacy. How can there be an up or a down in spacetime?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
Actually, Brahman Consciousness is a state of awareness and not a deity to worship or ponder. It is the state of freedom from referents. Therefore, to describe it as some 'thing' is a fallacy, and the condition of dualistic and occluded thinking. - Original Message - From:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife More legally speaking, if the original corporation, ne: WPEC has changed its name, form, or mandate then it no longer exists, as corporations do not inherit the terms of their previous incarnations. - Original Message

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
I think TurquoiseB has been there done that as he has said, and seen how sidhis in fact do not change someone's basic vritti. Maharishi, as many people, masters, non-masters, call them whatever, has reified the conceptual notions of enlightenment as if they pertain to the manifest level

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Ann Coulter/Murders w/Words(her words)'

2006-06-14 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 6/13/06 8:25:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm surprised anyone takes Ann Coulter seriously. She seems to me like a mischievous, playful child who enjoys setting fire to things and causing a lot of petty havoc. She's having fun

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Ann Coulter/Murders w/Words(her words)'

2006-06-14 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 6/13/06 8:39:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So Michael Moore is vata? He looks kapha to me. Coulter certainly isn't kapha. Sorry it doesn't work. Try again.If you're not progressive then you must be regressive. I'm not speaking of their

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bad War Karma?- U.S.Murder rate increases...'

2006-06-14 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 6/13/06 10:34:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just for the record, the stats show that NYC isthe lowest-crime big city. Guess which big cityis the highest?Dallas. Must be all those librul judges... Might have something to do with

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, of course. And the experience of Self realization is nothing more than reaching a level of functioning where this is unimpeded. Nothing more than just that. Practice makes perfect. This idea of a level of

Re: *****SPAM***** Re: [FairfieldLife] we sell a luxury villa in Dominican Republic

2006-06-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: *SPAM* Re: [FairfieldLife] we sell a luxury villa in Dominican Republic I emailed him: Hi Henry, I unsubscribed you from FairfieldLife because you posted a commercial message and I assumed you were just a spammer. But my co-moderator pointed out that you were a legitimate

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife on 6/14/06 2:09 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/13/06 9:23 AM, Michael Murphy at [EMAIL

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread Vaj
On Jun 14, 2006, at 10:32 AM, Rick Archer wrote:on 6/14/06 2:09 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/13/06 9:23 AM, Michael Murphy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Wow, Rick,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Frankenbees?

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Bob, Did we work at the Florida Capital together? I used to work with the bees there and helped sell the pollen. I have wanted to have hives again ever since. Varietal honey rocks! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honeybee's Genome Mapped --

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks for taking the time to discuss this fascinating topic! Oh, OK- Got it. So my question back is, what practical difference in your life would it make if you witnessed someone, even yourself, externally manifesting a sidhi? I would accept a test with better scientific protocol and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread Vaj
On Jun 14, 2006, at 10:40 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote:I don't share any of those mentioned goals.  Eternal peacefulness is death for me.  Deep contentment comes and goes which motivates my actions toward my goals. I don't desire it as a permanent  state.  I don't think we share the same

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Too funny! I wanted to thank you again for that software to capture videos on youtube. I am loving life. Check out Dr. Issiah Ross the original one-man-band. Now it is on my hardrive thanks you to! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 14, 2006, at

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for taking the time to discuss this fascinating topic! snip Sure thing! Anyway, regardless of what your goals are, would they be satisfied if you witnessed a rigorously proven demonstration of the sidhis?

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This reification of a concept of some 'nature' is a fallacy. Nature=the sum total of relative existence; infinite time and infinite space, and infinite manifestation. After enlightenment, there is not much ownership, it

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The fully enlightened people alive right now are all dead. ---Not so. So? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Protect your PC from spy ware with award winning anti spy

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Oh, OK- Got it. So my question back is, what practical difference in your life would it make if you witnessed someone, even yourself,

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
If your mind is doing the doubt thing, it's going to do the doubt thing no matter who the supposed expert is. I don't think I am as skeptical as you are about the use of proper tests in science. The whole history of science as advanced on our ability to have confidence in procedures and make

[FairfieldLife] I hate the new format

2006-06-14 Thread shempmcgurk
I hate the new Yahoo! format. Anyway we can get the old one back? The thing I hate the most is navigating to old and new postings in a thread. The one good thing: improved search capabilities. There is now an advanced search for Yahoo! groups that allows one to seaarch almost as well as with

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snipshe was so threatened by the fact that she was seeing these things and that they *weren't* being done by *her* teacher (Maharishi) that she just blotted them out and refused to ever deal with the experience. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Me: Sometimes I think that it is the lower states of consciousness that we are forgetting about. What I mean by this is that it is possible that the rishis were dealing with a population so ignorant that our modern awareness is the enlightened state. I think any of our awarenesses could be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TorquiseB writes snipped: Life is *full* of contradictions. So, as far as I can tell, is enlightenment. Before enlightenment, Chop Suey and contradictions; after enlightenment, Chop Suey and

[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/14/06 2:09 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 6/13/06 9:23 AM, Michael Murphy at

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 14, 2006, at 10:40 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: I don't share any of those mentioned goals. Eternal peacefulness is death for me. Deep contentment comes and goes which motivates my actions toward my goals. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] I hate the new format

2006-06-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] I hate the new format on 6/14/06 10:27 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate the new Yahoo! format. Anyway we can get the old one back? The thing I hate the most is navigating to old and new postings in a thread. Edit your settings. You can switch

[FairfieldLife] Re: I hate the new format

2006-06-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/14/06 10:27 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate the new Yahoo! format. Anyway we can get the old one back? The thing I hate the most is navigating to old and new postings in a thread.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
Concept on top of concept humping another concept giving rise to litters of baby concepts. None of this is helpful in the slightest way. - Original Message - From: jim_flanegin To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 10:16 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife]

Re: [FairfieldLife] I hate the new format

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] I hate the new format It's under the email settings at the Yahoo base camp. - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] I hate the new format on 6/14/06

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
Next comes the full integration, the living of the knowledge. In the case of Self realization, if it is being lived as an integrated component of one's life, it has huge practical benefits. Sounds like the person who you refer to is not living 200% of life. Maharishi lives 1,000,000%

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Damn Judy, I am only working on one cup of coffee here! Let me see if I can make an intelligible response! Coming back to this, because I think it's an important point: If Unity consciousness is as MMY defines it, and if he's in Unity consciousness, it isn't *up* to MMY, independently of

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It does interest me that Yogananda's book is a fantastic example of how spiritual people use the appearance of science when it suits them. The New Testament does the same thing. It appears to follow

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Concept on top of concept humping another concept giving rise to litters of baby concepts. None of this is helpful in the slightest way. Ok then, nothing more to say- I am not much into concepts for their own sake...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Next comes the full integration, the living of the knowledge. In the case of Self realization, if it is being lived as an integrated component of one's life, it has huge practical benefits. Sounds like the person who

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Judy: In other words: Does he have the ability to want to do siddhis on demand, independently of what nature wants? Jim: If he is enlightened, then what nature wants and what he does are the same thing; indistinguishable. Me: As a spokesperson for the lower states of consciousness I

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your mind is doing the doubt thing, it's going to do the doubt thing no matter who the supposed expert is. I don't think I am as skeptical as you are about the use of proper tests in science. I've just

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn Judy, I am only working on one cup of coffee here! Let me see if I can make an intelligible response! Coming back to this, because I think it's an important point: If Unity consciousness is as MMY

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snipshe was so threatened by the fact that she was seeing these things and that they *weren't* being done by *her* teacher (Maharishi) that she

Re: [FairfieldLife] I hate the new format

2006-06-14 Thread gullible fool
Shemp wrote The thing I hate the most is navigating to old and new postings in a thread, which means he is reading the messages at the group page, not in his email, and there is no way to change the format of the messages at the group page. The email settings change email only. --- Kirk [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim: If he is enlightened, then what nature wants and what he does are the same thing; indistinguishable. Me: As a spokesperson for the lower states of consciousness I also want to point out that Nature

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip It does interest me that Yogananda's book is a fantastic example of how spiritual people use the appearance of science when it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread Vaj
On Jun 14, 2006, at 1:43 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@  wrote: snipshe was so threatened by the fact that she was seeing these things and that they *weren't* being done

[FairfieldLife] Dr. Robert Schneider Publishes New Book

2006-06-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Dr. Robert Schneider Publishes New Book June 14, 2006 Home http://mum.edu/welcome.html Donations http://mum.edu/donations/welcome.shtml Development Office Maharishi University of Management Fairfield, IA 52557 641-472-1180 Email Us mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Good News! Archive

[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread nablus108
Wow, Rick, thats interesting. I would love to teach TM at a reasonable price once in a while. I know someone who does this. There are several who are quite successful at it. I've been tempted but I always think back the fact that I signed a legal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread Vaj
On Jun 14, 2006, at 2:23 PM, nablus108 wrote: Wow, Rick, thats interesting. I would love to teach TM at  a reasonable price once in a while. I know someone who does this. There are several who are quite successful at it. I've been tempted but I always think back the fact that I signed a legal 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@ wrote: Next comes the full integration, the living of the knowledge. In the case of Self realization, if it is being lived as an integrated

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Sorry, I've lost the original intent of this discussion. Suffice it to say that in my experience, external proof of anything has not been as important a factor as the verification of my own abilities. Someone once told me that to rely on external phenomena will drive you crazy. Which

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Ann Coulter/Murders w/Words(her words)'

2006-06-14 Thread Bhairitu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/12/06 5:05:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: In a message dated 6/12/06 3:22:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Ann Coulter/Murders w/Words(her words)'

2006-06-14 Thread Bhairitu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/13/06 8:39:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So Michael Moore is vata? He looks kapha to me. Coulter certainly isn't kapha. Sorry it doesn't work. Try again. If you're not progressive then you must be regressive.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars on 6/14/06 1:52 PM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This fellow knows absolutely nothing about himself, why presume he knows anything about a saint ? How are you in a position to know what he knows about himself? And do you know everything there is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife on 6/14/06 1:33 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it make sense to go against the wishes of the person who gave you the lineage you're supposedly teaching in--and then turn around and invoke that lineage as part of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread Vaj
On Jun 14, 2006, at 3:04 PM, Rick Archer wrote:on 6/14/06 1:33 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Does it make sense to go against the wishes of the person who gave you the lineage you're supposedly teaching in--and then turn around and invoke that lineage as part of the initiation process? Or

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Good points. This one interested me the most: rather by recognizing that mysticism is completely beyond science. It is beyond the scientific method in its focus and range, but I think Sam Harris would claim that when it talks about how the world is mysticism enters the field where logic does

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
The kung-fu of denial is FAR more powerful than the kung-fu of science. :-) Nice one! Agreed. Technically, it's a navel chakra thang. It's like someone punching you in the stomach, not a one-time punch but a continual pressure on that area of the body. It can be disconcerting until you get

[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 14, 2006, at 2:23 PM, nablus108 wrote: Wow, Rick, thats interesting. I would love to teach TM at a reasonable price once in a while. I know someone who does this. There are several who are quite

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
He can't openly have sex for fear it will destroy his popular image, he does not have the open recognition of his peers, his megalomaniacal disposition speaks volumns about his state of mind, and then he rants showing discontent, and then recants showing his great compassion, all thus

[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 14, 2006, at 2:23 PM, nablus108 wrote: Wow, Rick, thats interesting. I would love to teach TM at a reasonable price once in a while. I know someone who does this. There are several who are quite

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 2:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars on 6/14/06 1:52 PM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This fellow knows absolutely

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread nablus108
And do you know everything there is to know about MMY? Maharishi is an enigma to me. After sitting at His feet for 40 years, of these many years litterrally, I still have only vague ideas about who He really is. What I do know, is that He is a Blazing light of Brahman

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: snip It does interest me that Yogananda's book is a

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 14, 2006, at 1:43 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snipshe was so threatened by the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
- Original Message - From: nablus108 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 2:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife Only learning from a rectified will continue the lineage. Teaching outside of Maharishis blessing will

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars on 6/14/06 3:16 PM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And do you know everything there is to know about MMY? Maharishi is an enigma to me. After sitting at His feet for 40 years, of these many years litterrally, I still have only vague ideas about

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good points. This one interested me the most: rather by recognizing that mysticism is completely beyond science. It is beyond the scientific method in its focus and range, but I think Sam Harris would claim

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread Vaj
On Jun 14, 2006, at 4:39 PM, Kirk wrote: - Original Message -From: nablus108To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 2:45 PMSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLifeOnly learning from a rectified will continue the lineage. Teaching outside of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
The enigma part is okay to my mind, but the blazing light of Brahman part seems as if it's a conditioned response. It may be true, or it may not be. If he is a blazing light of brahman then one would never be able to tell, because Brahman has no observable characteristics. In point of

[FairfieldLife] Petit Paris in quirky Fairfield

2006-06-14 Thread bob_brigante
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He can't openly have sex for fear it will destroy his popular image, he does not have the open recognition of his peers, his megalomaniacal disposition speaks volumns about his state of mind, and then he rants showing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And do you know everything there is to know about MMY? Maharishi is an enigma to me. After sitting at His feet for 40 years, of these many years litterrally, I still have only vague ideas about who He really is.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread Vaj
On Jun 14, 2006, at 4:02 PM, nablus108 wrote:Does it make sense to go against the wishes of the person who gave   you the lineage you're supposedly teaching in--and then turn  around   and invoke that lineage as part of the initiation process? Or is  it   yours to use after you got it? It would

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread Vaj
On Jun 14, 2006, at 3:20 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:Good points. This one interested me the most: "rather by recognizing that mysticism is completely beyond science." It is beyond the scientific method in its focus and range, but I  think Sam Harris would claim that when it talks about how the 

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread TurquoiseB
Unc: The kung-fu of denial is FAR more powerful than the kung-fu of science. :-) Curtis: Nice one! Agreed. In my experience, it's more than a snappy one-liner. There is real truth in it. The power of denial is fuckin' AWESOME, man. :-) The ability of self to perpetuate its own illusions and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Frankenbees?

2006-06-14 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob, Did we work at the Florida Capital together? I used to work with the bees there and helped sell the pollen. I have wanted to have hives again ever since. Varietal honey rocks! *

[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/14/06 1:33 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it make sense to go against the wishes of the person who gave you the lineage you're supposedly teaching in--and then turn around and invoke that lineage

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Judy:I don't have a copy of the Wilber book to hand, but the point he makes is that quantum physics made the limits of science more clear than they ever had been before. Essentially quantum mechanics demonstrates that science cannot tell us anything *directly* about reality; it's all shadows on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Frankenbees?

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks. It is so funny that there was a Bob Brigante at the FLA Sidhaland! I just read a great book about bees Robbing the Bees : A Biography of Honey--The Sweet Liquid Gold that Seduced the World, that included following a beekeeper around for a while. Such a hard but rewarding life! He

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks a lot. I'll check it out when I get home tonight. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 14, 2006, at 3:20 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Good points. This one interested me the most: rather by recognizing that mysticism is completely beyond

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
Interesting point because M. is not in the tradition that is invoked during initiation. Funny, I was also recently thinking about the Lakshmi tantra. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
So if you think this of Maharishi, what say you about Shiva? I love Shiva. Alway have always will. If there is a power of the divine to manifest then it is of Shiva. Of course if there is a power of the divine to manifest it is of Mahakali. Will always have always. I love Mahakali.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
a sign of guilt? or dualism of his mind? One would think that since he puts his photo on all his manifest actions he would place it in the Holy Tradition which is the source of his power. State of contemplation of Brahman is bliss and contentment. The sort which keeps a person in

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

2006-06-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Curtis you might enjoy the following brief talk with Ken Wilber where he answers the question does quantum physics prove god? where he rather elegantly explains that the quantum state is not unmanifest

[FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So if you think this of Maharishi, what say you about Shiva? I love Shiva. Alway have always will. If there is a power of the divine to manifest then it is of Shiva. Of course if there is a power of the divine to

[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I don't think anyone in the Movement has the balls to question MMY. But if they did he probably would say straight up that he is not liberated. He is still in duality. snip I do admire him. He might be much much more

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
Why do you think or feel Maharishi is not Shiva incarnate?---Shiva has never given blessings to take them away. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
Hi, I personally believe that people don't believe he is who he is due to brainwashing. Just as TB's want desperately to believe who he is, due to brainwashing. Same mirror image process. Thinking he is 'someone' is a false notion. Nobody is 'someone' as opposed to anybody else.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Wars

2006-06-14 Thread Kirk
Why do you think or feel Maharishi is not Shiva incarnate?---Moreover Shiva ia an ascetic, or naked awareness deva, and has no considerations of relative things. One can nap in shit, or live in a castle, it is all the same to Shiva. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread Vaj
On Jun 14, 2006, at 5:49 PM, Kirk wrote:a sign of guilt? or dualism of his mind? One would think that since he puts his photo on all his manifest actions he would place it in the Holy Tradition which is the source of his power. State of contemplation of Brahman is bliss and contentment. The

[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/14/06 1:33 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it make sense to go against the wishes of the person who gave you the lineage you're supposedly teaching in--and then turn around and invoke that lineage as

[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2006-06-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 14, 2006, at 4:02 PM, nablus108 wrote: Does it make sense to go against the wishes of the person who gave you the lineage you're supposedly teaching in--and then turn around and invoke that lineage as part of

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