[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi folks, I have just joined and looking to learn more about the whole > Maharishi thing from the folks who actually live in Fairfield. > I just broke up with a woman who has been a hard core meditator f

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
Thank you Sal. There seems to be an addiction to the flying thing. She told me many times things like. I wouldn't be alive without it. I can't get through the day without it. It is the most important thing in my life. I don't want to work I just want to meditate. Meditation is the answer to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,, Cardemaister

2006-08-12 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
Funny you should say that,,,(that it might be her supressed thoughts too. Because there is this part of me that thinks the very same. I thought if I through as much unconditional love her way as humanly possible I could reach her and I thought I was. She would say things like ,,,This is the fir

[FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 8/11/06 9:42:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > sparaig@ writes: > > > > > > It's a mothers right to choose. Women have t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi folks, I have just joined and looking to learn more abo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield on 8/12/06 6:36 AM, Bill (William)Simmons at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I first started dating me she was absolutely convinced she "levitated" meanwhile I'm down stairs listening to the floor upstairs squeak like hell as she bounced up and d

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank you Sal. > > There seems to be an addiction to the flying thing. She told me > many times things like. > > I wouldn't be alive without it. > > I can't get through the day without it. > > It is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/12/06 6:36 AM, Bill (William)Simmons at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > When I first started dating me she was absolutely convinced > > she "levitated" meanwhile I'm down stairs listening to the floor > > upstai

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 8/11/06 10:47:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > It's a mothers right to choose. Women have the right to decide if > > > > they want to carry a child regardless of it's sex.> > > > > > Perhaps, but the social issue is overwhelming the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 8/12/06 1:06:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:> >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 8/11/06 11:18:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Ban anything that can be used to determine the sex of the fetus. > Ultrasound while the > > mom isn't allowed to look, would be OK, as long as the doctor > doesn't reveal the sex.> > Hey, tha

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread Peter
How you guys could maintain a relationship is beyond me. She's a hardcore Ru' and your a "non-meditator" (very low cosmic status). How long did you guys go out together? --- "Bill (William)Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you Sal. > > There seems to be an addiction to the flying thing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 8/12/06 7:21:12 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Ban anything that can be used to determine the sex of the > > > fetus. Ultrasound while the mom isn't allowed to look, would be > > > OK, as long as the doctor doesn't reveal the sex.>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 8/12/06 7:34:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gee. One of the reasons given by pro-choicers has always been that > legalizing abortions makes it safe because women are going to go > underground and go to abortionists anyways when it's not l

[FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/11/06 11:18:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Ban anything that can be used to determine the sex of the fetus. > > Ultrasound while the > > > mom isn't allowed to look,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/11/06 10:47:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > It's a mothers right to choose. Women have the right to decide if > > > > > they want to carry a child regardless of it'

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield on 8/12/06 7:51 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/12/06 6:36 AM, Bill (William)Simmons at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > When I first started dati

[FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/12/06 7:21:12 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > Ban anything that can be used to determine the sex of the > > > > fetus. Ultrasound while the mom isn't allowed to look,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/12/06 7:34:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Gee. One of the reasons given by pro-choicers has always been that > > legalizing abortions makes it safe because women are goi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/12/06 7:51 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > , Rick Archer wrote: > >> > > >> > on 8/12/06 6:36 AM, Bill (William

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > on 8/12/06 7:51 AM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com> > > > , Ri

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield on 8/12/06 8:27 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does any of this apply to a TM-Sidhis practitioner referring to hopping as "levitation" while being aware that hopping isn't actually levitating in the standard sense of the term? “M

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 8/12/06 8:18:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Certainly you wouldn't want some politician or dictator telling you > what the sex of a child you are permitted to bring into the world > or abort should be.This really isn't the simplistic

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread Peter
--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another way of putting it would be that he does have > a handle on Absolute > Truth, but that that doesn¹t qualify him as an > authority on all matters of > relative truth. And this is when the "cult-like" quality enters in the TMO. People hando

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield on 8/12/06 8:34 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S.: That's why "Absolute Truth" in this context was a weasel phrase.  It had nothing to do with the particular issue being discussed, it was just thrown in to make True Believers sound

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

2006-08-12 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
That's ok,,,I am certainly accustomed to defensiveness both passive and agressive when speaking about TM with TM'rs > How can you tell the difference between someone > who is totally brainwashed and programmed and > somebody who is so excited by something they've > just learned they can't sto

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread Sal Sunshine
Bill, I'd say you're lucky the relationship is over--chalk it up to a learning experience. Many of us felt that way at some point (not the extreme anger part, but definitely the "protective of all things having to do with MMY" part. She'll move on too, I predict, when she realizes the TMO no l

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 8/12/06 8:19:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What about the mothers right to know?> > What about it?> > Now could you imagine that being said to a prospective mother in > the USA? For all the doctor knows, she's coming in for a routi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread Peter
--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 8/12/06 8:34 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > P.S.: That's why "Absolute Truth" in this context > > was a weasel phrase. It had nothing to do with > > the particular issue being discussed, it was just > > thrown in to make True

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 8/12/06 8:19:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I'm against is abortion based on the> sex of the fetus.> > But Judy, the mother doesn't have to give a reason why she wants > to abort a fetus. She doesn't even have to tell the ultra sound

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/12/06 8:27 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > How does any of this apply to a TM-Sidhis practitioner > > referring to hopping as "levitation" while being aware > > that hopping isn't actually levita

[FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 8/12/06 8:18:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > [MDixon wrote:] > > Certainly you wouldn't want some politician or dictator telling > > you what the sex of a child you are permitted

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 8/12/06 8:22:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So it is "evil" to abort a fetus because of it's sex?"Evil" in this case meaning having negativeconsequences. "Lesser of two evils" is what wecall a figure of speech. Allowing the Chinese to ab

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/12/06 8:34 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > P.S.: That's why "Absolute Truth" in this context > > was a weasel phrase. It had nothing to do with > > the particular issue being discussed, it was j

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 8/12/06 9:03:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would imagine the Chinese think the current policy will fix the> situation quickly. > Once there is an over abundance of men and too few women, fewer > children of either sex will be born and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's ok,,,I am certainly accustomed to defensiveness both > passive and agressive when speaking about TM with TM'rs Do you ever defend things you believe in when others criticize them? Are you being

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Peter

2006-08-12 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
Just over two years Peter. A great woman, I adored her and still do. When she was peaceful she was like an angel. But then out of nowhere. Actually it was usually a day or two after we had done something really nice together,,,that this demon side appearred and all hell would break loose. It wa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/12/06 8:19:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > What about the mothers right to know? > > > > What about it? > > > > Now could you imagine that being said to a prospective

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

2006-08-12 Thread curtisdeltablues
Bill's next two first dates: Bill "So what do you think about these yogic flyers for world peace I saw in the paper?" Date "Oh my God I am a yogic flyer, I was on that course and it filled me with bliss!" Bill "Waiter, check please". (sound of tires squealing all the way out of the parking lot

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Peter

2006-08-12 Thread Sal Sunshine
Bill, Are you sure she doesn't have some other problems--like depression or bipolarism? Sounds like there is something more going on than just defending MMY. If so, it wouldn't be all that unusual--many of us looked to TM as a cure-all, until it became obvious it wasn't. And those quick flas

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

2006-08-12 Thread Sal Sunshine
But that's just it--you weren't supposed to have to "believe in" anything when you started TM (as it wasn't a religion--remember?). You didn't even need to believe TM worked--all you had to do was practice it, 2X/day, believing whatever you wanted about that or anything else. Sal On Aug 12, 2

[FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/12/06 8:19:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > What I'm against is abortion based on the > > sex of the fetus. > > > > But Judy, the mother doesn't have to give a reason why

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank you Sal. > > There seems to be an addiction to the flying thing. She told me > many times things like. > > I wouldn't be alive without it. > > I can't get through the day without it. > > It is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/12/06 8:22:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > So it is "evil" to abort a fetus because of it's sex? > > "Evil" in this case meaning having negative > consequences. "Lesser o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,, Cardemaister

2006-08-12 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Funny you should say that,,,(that it might be her supressed thoughts > too. Because there is this part of me that thinks the very same. > > I thought if I through as much unconditional love her way as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 8/11/06 9:42:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time, >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/12/06 9:03:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I would imagine the Chinese think the current policy will fix the > > situation quickly. > > Once there is an over abundance of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Peter

2006-08-12 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
Sal,,,I'm quite certain of it. I think the meditation is her own personal crutch or a happy pill. Just pop and hop and she feels better temporarily. But it doesn't address the underlying root causes/demons etc. But because Maharishi says "just meditate more" and all your problems will go awa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/12/06 6:36 AM, Bill (William)Simmons at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > When I first started dating me she was absolutely convinced > > she "levitated" meanwhile I'm down stairs listening to the floor > > upstai

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 8/12/06 10:01:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do the Chinese believe in equal rights for women?Do they believe in the right of the elderly to areasonably comfortable old age, by government meansif necessary? Do the Chinese believe access t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

2006-08-12 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
I like your reasoning Sal!!! ItsasimplerelaxationtechniqueWAS --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But that's just it--you weren't supposed to have to "believe in" > anything when you started TM (as it wasn't a religion--remember?). You > didn't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" > wrote: > > > > Thank you Sal. > > > > There seems to be an addiction to the flying thing. She told me > > many times things like. > > > > I wouldn

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 8/12/06 9:54:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > How prevalent do you think such decisions are in the> U.S. compared to China?> > Actually, I think no child should be aborted unless the mothers> life is endangered, any where. However the acc

[FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/11/06 11:18:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Ban anything that can be used to determine the sex of the fetus. > > Ultrasound while the > > > mom isn't allowed to look,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How you guys could maintain a relationship is beyond > me. She's a hardcore Ru' and your a "non-meditator" > (very low cosmic status). How long did you guys go out > together? Yeah, it must have been a horrible and trying

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Peter

2006-08-12 Thread Sal Sunshine
Very good points about needs, Bill, and how we all need to overcome them--ha, ha. I personally started TM for the relaxation benefits it claimed you'd feel, and that is still why I continue the practice. The concept of "enlightenment," whatever it might mean to others, is so vague as to be me

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Peter

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just over two years Peter. > > A great woman, I adored her and still do. When she was peaceful she > was like an angel. But then out of nowhere. Actually it was usually a > day or two after we had done

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
> > Boy, she must have been very beautiful or had a very charming > personality for you to stand her for so long. Ah she surely was. In my eyes the most beautiful woman in the world. I would get occassional glimpses of the free spirit within her. Just long nough to keep me coming back for mo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 8/11/06 11:18:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > jstein@ writes: > > > > > Ban anything that can be used to determine the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 8/12/06 10:04:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So you acknowledge that not allowing the mother toknow the sex of a child would be a lesser evil, Ipresume. Yes it would be a lesser evil if it meant saving the life of the fetus, but we don't m

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield on 8/12/06 8:42 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > Another way of putting it would be that he does have > a handle on Absolute > Truth, but that that doesn’t qualify him as an > authority on all

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But that's just it--you weren't supposed to have to "believe in" > anything when you started TM (as it wasn't a religion--remember?). Wasn't talking about religious belief per se. > You didn't even need to believe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > wrote: >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/12/06 8:34 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > P.S.: That's why "Absolute Truth" in this context > > was a weasel phrase. It had nothing to do with > > the particular issue being discussed, it was j

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Another way of putting it would be that he does have > > a handle on Absolute > > Truth, but that that doesn¹t qualify him as an > > authority on all matters of > > re

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Authfriend

2006-08-12 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
You make some valid points. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield on 8/12/06 8:58 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Were you ever convinced you were actually hovering in the air when you were only hopping?  Or were you simply using the term "levitate" to refer to the immediate physical effects of pract

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield on 8/12/06 10:14 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, yeah, I agree with many of your complaints about the TMO and MMY but in the interests of balance and fairness, you willingly went into that lifestyle that was the opposite of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

2006-08-12 Thread Sal Sunshine
No, Judy, no belief in its efficacy was needed, not when I started anyway. The motivation would come once the relaxation benefits came, so the reasoning went. And yes, I did say you needed to do it 2X a day in my paragraph below. Sal On Aug 12, 2006, at 10:31 AM, authfriend wrote: > >> You

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

2006-08-12 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That's ok,,,I am certainly accustomed to defensiveness both passive > and agressive when speaking about TM with TM'rs > > > > > How can you tell the difference between someone > > who is totally b

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Peter

2006-08-12 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Peter on 8/12/06 9:50 AM, Bill (William)Simmons at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's when I finally had even enough and said something like,,,Oh sure Maharishi says everyone should be celibate but himreffering to a years ago comment by the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Save Dogs, Abort Human Fetuses

2006-08-12 Thread shempmcgurk
...and the right to know the sex of your dog's pups should be entrenched in the Constitution. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/12/06 9:54:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > How prevalent do you think such decisions are in the > > U.S. compared to China? > > > > Actually, I think no child should be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Peter

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sal,,,I'm quite certain of it. > > I think the meditation is her own personal crutch or a happy pill. > > Just pop and hop and she feels better temporarily. But it doesn't > address the underlying root

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

2006-08-12 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bill's next two first dates: > > Bill "So what do you think about these yogic flyers for world peace I > saw in the paper?" > > Date "Oh my God I am a yogic flyer, I was on that course and it > filled me w

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Peter

2006-08-12 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Very good points about needs, Bill, and how we all need to overcome > them--ha, ha. > > I personally started TM for the relaxation benefits it claimed you'd > feel, and that is still why I continue the practice.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 8/11/06 11:18:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, >

[FairfieldLife] Thank you All

2006-08-12 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
Thanks everyone who has responded to my posts. Keep well in peace Bill To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield on 8/12/06 9:08 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't *think* you're claiming that people who believe MMY "has a handle on Absolute Truth" as you define it are convinced they're hovering in the air when they're only hopping--are you?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread curtisdeltablues
Shemp: "So, yeah, I agree with many of your complaints about the TMO and MMY but in the interests of balance and fairness, you willingly went into that lifestyle that was the opposite of the TM Program. You can't now turn around and claim shock and awe for all the horrible things that the Movement

[FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If abortion wasn't "killing", no one would give a rat's ass about > whether or not they knew the sex of the fetus. > > This whole discussion exposes the extreme discomfort various > parties to this debate have whe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Authfriend

2006-08-12 Thread shempmcgurk
Bill: consider hitting the "reply" button when you're responding to a particular point. Unless you're starting a new topic, we won't know what exactly you're responding to unless you do that because your correspondent's comments won't appear. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (Will

[FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Peter

2006-08-12 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" > wrote: > > > > Sal,,,I'm quite certain of it. > > > > I think the meditation is her own personal crutch or a happy pill. > > > > Just pop and hop

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, Judy, no belief in its efficacy was needed, not when I started > anyway. The motivation would come once the relaxation benefits > came, so the reasoning went. That's what I just said! What are you saying "no"

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > But I believe that is the underlying assumption of those who use the phrase > ³Maharishi says.² That phrase carries a lot more weight than ³I say² or > ³George Bush (etc.) says.² The assumption is that because

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Shemp: > "So, yeah, I agree with many of your complaints about the TMO and MMY > but in the interests of balance and fairness, you willingly went > into that lifestyle that was the opposite of the TM Program.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/12/06 9:08 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I don't *think* you're claiming that people who believe > > MMY "has a handle on Absolute Truth" as you define it > > are convinced they're hovering in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > wrote: >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Peter

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" > > wrote: > > > So I guess what I'm saying is until one can give up meditation

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

2006-08-12 Thread nablus108
> a simple man who bleeds like the rest of us,,,eats like the rest of > us and excretes bodily wastes like the rest of us Do you know anything about this ? Or is it simply the words spilled over by your silly ignorance ? Have you lived in the company of a saint, or is your life dominated by f

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > a simple man who bleeds like the rest of us,,,eats like the rest of > > us and excretes bodily wastes like the rest of us > > Do you know anything about this ? Or is it simply the words spilled > over by your

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield

2006-08-12 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield on 8/12/06 11:14 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/12/06 9:08 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I don't *think* you're claiming that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Authfriend

2006-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bill: > > consider hitting the "reply" button when you're responding to a > particular point. Unless you're starting a new topic, we won't know > what exactly you're responding to unless you do that because you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Save Dogs in China

2006-08-12 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,Peter

2006-08-12 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello Fairfield,,,I'm sensing some defensiveness

2006-08-12 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > a simple man who bleeds like the rest of us,,,eats like the rest of > > us and excretes bodily wastes like the rest of us > > Do you know anything about this ? Or is it simply the words spilled > over by yo

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