[FairfieldLife] Re: Positive thinking and karman?

2007-12-23 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Physicality is destiny, so changing one's normal operations is > changing one's future. What you put your attention on grows and vice > versa -- attenuation. Use it or lose it...including evil tendencies > left beggi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-23 Thread TurquoiseB
As a public service for those who are curious as to what this exchange is about but don't really want to wade through all 300+ lines of it, here is a link to a shorter version that cuts to the chase. The language is easier to understand, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9HoHFsuOGY :-) --- In

[FairfieldLife] Homicide and bad karma?

2007-12-23 Thread cardemaister
(Just killing time...oops!) Is it perchance so that when someone commits a homicide, s/he takes a huge "chunk" of the victims bad karma onto her/himself? If that's the case, did e.g. Stalin or Pol Pot, and their supporters take enormous amounts of collective bad karma of their people onto themse

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Atheist Delusion

2007-12-23 Thread TurquoiseB
I feel like rappin' over coffee this morning, and there is really no "meat" for doing so in last night's posts, so I'm going to go back to the last post that does contain such substance: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What I am getting at here is, what i

[FairfieldLife] Movie Fingers Pointing to the Moon

2007-12-23 Thread TurquoiseB
What are the scenes from movies that most "remind" you of enlightenment? If you don't believe in enlightenment, what are the scenes from the movies you've loved that get you highest, because they evoke in you feelings of fulfillment, or happiness, or peace, or whatever it is that you value in l

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-23 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Dec 22, 2007, at 11:09 PM, authfriend wrote: , and in doing so, felt I had been demolished as well because she lumped me together with them. I think Angela is taking this way too personally. Angela, Judy's right--you really need to go back and reread posts before you quote them, otherw

[FairfieldLife] Charlie Lutes lecture - A New Heaven and a New Earth

2007-12-23 Thread do.rflex
A New Heaven and a New Earth (3/12/81) Man is a God to the animal kingdom and when man started to kill animals he also started killing each other. In the coming of a new age on this Earth man must abandon his old way of life and adopt an entirely new way of love and peace on earth. Ki

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-23 Thread Vaj
On Dec 23, 2007, at 8:31 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote: On Dec 22, 2007, at 11:09 PM, authfriend wrote: , and in doing so, felt I had been demolished as well because she lumped me together with them. I think Angela is taking this way too personally. Angela, Judy's right--you really need to g

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for Curtis

2007-12-23 Thread Angela Mailander
You can prolly figure this out for yourself, but here's a little background. The poem was (allegedly) found written on the wall of a temple tower that had been built a thousand years earlier in honor of an enlightened sage who flew to heaven on a crane (a cultural symbol for enlightenment) and on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Charlie Lutes lecture - A New Heaven and a New Earth

2007-12-23 Thread Peter
Blah, blah, blah Give me experiences, not endless pep talks of spiritual pornography by a man we all loved but now know as a spinner of tall tales. --- "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > A New Heaven and a New Earth (3/12/81) > > Man is a God to the animal kingdom and whe

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA

2007-12-23 Thread Peter
Isn't Ron Paul an ax murderer? --- mainstream20016 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA > > > > (yep, a heavy night out recently leaves me in > piggy heaven on the tube > > tonigh

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-23 Thread Angela Mailander
It's not personal, it's a game. Let her respond to the main point. My "gross misinterpretation of the line." - Original Message From: Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 7:31:36 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deep Scien

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-23 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Dec 23, 2007, at 7:51 AM, Vaj wrote: I think Angela is taking this way too personally. Angela, Judy's right--you really need to go back and reread posts before you quote them, otherwise it gets pretty pointless to engage in a back- and-forth, especially about things as specific as this.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA

2007-12-23 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Dec 23, 2007, at 7:57 AM, Peter wrote: Isn't Ron Paul an ax murderer? No, he's a Republican. Sal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-23 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Dec 23, 2007, at 8:08 AM, Angela Mailander wrote: It's not personal, it's a game. Let her respond to the main point. My "gross misinterpretation of the line." Did you see Vaj's suggestion about quoting, Angela? Great idea, and it really would clear up a lot of the misinterpretations yo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-23 Thread Angela Mailander
I'm glad Judy has found such a fine advocate. Her main point does not require much memory: She said my interpretation of the ghost's advice to Hamlet was a "gross misreading." She has not shown how and why that is the case, and I don't think she can. If she cops out because I did not quote he

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-23 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Dec 23, 2007, at 8:34 AM, Angela Mailander wrote: 'm glad Judy has found such a fine advocate. Her main point does not require much memory: She said my interpretation of the ghost's advice to Hamlet was a "gross misreading." She has not shown how and why that is the case, and I don't t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes lecture - A New Heaven and a New Earth

2007-12-23 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Blah, blah, blah Give me experiences, not endless > pep talks of spiritual pornography by a man we all > loved but now know as a spinner of tall tales. Sounds like you're describing Maharishi. > > --- "do.rflex" <[E

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-23 Thread Angela Mailander
"Advocate" simply means you speak for her on the points you did make. You said, "If I were her..." I did not say or imply that you share her point of view. But I do not want to waste any more posts on this. Hamlet can be interpreted in a gazillion appropriate ways. I want to know why among a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm glad Judy has found such a fine advocate. Her main point > does not require much memory: She said my interpretation of > the ghost's advice to Hamlet was a "gross misreading." She > has not shown how and wh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Advocate" simply means you speak for her on the points you did make. You said, "If I were her..." I did not say or imply that you share her point of view. But I do not want to waste any more posts on this.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Atheist Delusion

2007-12-23 Thread Duveyoung
I think that Stu's post below is all the more extraordinary in that he, a successful tippy-toppy writer, does not suggest to us that we see his writing ability as a tool to reveal knowledge. He's okay that an "apple" is green, red, yellow depending on the mind of the viewer, and he seems to write

[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes lecture - A New Heaven and a New Earth

2007-12-23 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > A New Heaven and a New Earth (3/12/81) >> There will come in the near future a time when nature will not allow > anyone to inhabit the Earth who does not measure up to the quality > necessary to live in t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Homicide and bad karma?

2007-12-23 Thread Duveyoung
Perhaps the harsher angle is to note that the bitter logic of the concept of karmic justice demands us to believe that all victims deserve their abuse. Maharishi said that the reason we were initiators is because we were the ones who lost the knowledge in the first place. Like that karma is such

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stunning Mars photos

2007-12-23 Thread Marek Reavis
Thanks, Judy, this stuff is totally lovely. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > http://www.nasa.gov/externalflash/Mars_as_art/index_noaccess.html >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Atheist Delusion

2007-12-23 Thread Angela Mailander
I think Stu and I were talking at cross-purposes; we're in basic agreement. - Original Message From: Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 9:51:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Atheist Delusion

[FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Fingers Pointing to the Moon

2007-12-23 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What are the scenes from movies that most "remind" you > of enlightenment? If you don't believe in enlightenment, > what are the scenes from the movies you've loved that > get you highest, because they evoke in you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Homicide and bad karma?

2007-12-23 Thread curtisdeltablues
> I don't know how atheists can stand the injustice of the world. There > is no way that George Bush is going to suffer enough for the travail > he's wrought. And, George is almost nothing compared to the rogues > that have scoured our globe. How do you atheists sleep at night > knowing that the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lay of the land

2007-12-23 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > > Don't listen to that whore of Babylon called Sal. > > > > > For God's sake, Doctor, at least wait until your > > patients have left your office before you go online > > to YourFace with comments about their private sex > > life! > > Dr. Peter Sutphen wrote: > I do apologize! i think I to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Homicide and bad karma?

2007-12-23 Thread Angela Mailander
Curtis, that is an excellent point about victimizing the victim that is implied in karmic theory. I've always felt that. Early on in my rather loose association with the TMO, somebody told me that the Jews killed by Hitler had deserved their fate because of their karma, and that because Hitle

[FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Fingers Pointing to the Moon

2007-12-23 Thread Marek Reavis
Turq, this is a nice premise and I'd be very interested in what people here come up with. Don't watch many films myself (so I'm anything but informed) but I don't remember any film that convincingly portrayed spiritual authority to me. When Brother Sun, Sister Moon came out in the 70s (yes?)

[FairfieldLife] Good and Bad Karma -- as Learning Opportunities (Re: Homicide and bad karma?)

2007-12-23 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Atheists face the challenges of living in a world where evil > people sometime do get their way,without the need for a sky daddy who > corrects all boo boos in the end. Nice image. > Not requiring a perfect

[FairfieldLife] Sanyama Fun

2007-12-23 Thread Peter
Instructions: 1. Meditate for 20 mins 2. Sit easily for 1 minute 3. Perform sanyama on "Purusha" for 10 minutes 4. Report back if you are still here ;-) Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Homicide and bad karma?

2007-12-23 Thread Vaj
On Dec 23, 2007, at 11:31 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > I don't know how atheists can stand the injustice of the world. There > is no way that George Bush is going to suffer enough for the travail > he's wrought. And, George is almost nothing compared to the rogues > that have scoured our glo

[FairfieldLife] More on Hamlet: WAS Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-23 Thread feste37
I wouldn't call Angela's interpretation of "Taint not thy mind" a "gross misreading." Many commentators on the play have indeed taken this as a distinct thought, complete in itself and separate from "nor contrive / Against thy mother aught." In doing so, they have followed the First Folio text of H

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes lecture - A New Heaven and a New Earth

2007-12-23 Thread Peter
--- "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Blah, blah, blah Give me experiences, not > endless > > pep talks of spiritual pornography by a man we all > > loved but now know as a spinner of tall tales. > > > So

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA

2007-12-23 Thread Peter
--- Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 23, 2007, at 7:57 AM, Peter wrote: > > > Isn't Ron Paul an ax murderer? > > No, he's a Republican. > > Sal Oh, okay. Homosexual pedophile then. Got it. > > > _

[FairfieldLife] Re: Here's the age of science Off is talking about

2007-12-23 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK, here we have a definitional issue. You go on to > provide what I think is an overly broad definition > from Wikipedia. There's no question that TM is a > *spiritual* practice, and no TM teacher would deny > that

[FairfieldLife] Karma and God's Will (Re: Homicide and bad karma?)

2007-12-23 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Curtis, that is an excellent point about victimizing the victim that is implied in karmic theory. I've always felt that. Early on in my rather loose association with the TMO, somebody told me that the Jews kill

[FairfieldLife] TM-Jihad & civic virtue

2007-12-23 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Of Virtue: Marek asks: but I'm curious as to what more you think can or should be done. Doug of FF suggesting Some needed steps of progress: Practical steps to help more quickly bring goodwill and peace on earth: 1)Help Senator Grassley's office, the Senate Finance Committee staff and the IR

[FairfieldLife] Re: Here's the age of science Off is talking about

2007-12-23 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote: > We've now seen a couple of generations of TM > teachers who have *no problem* with standing > up in front of people swearing to them that TM > is in no way a religious practice, and then > immediately afterwards going back to the local > TM center and waving candles to Shiva o

Re: [FairfieldLife] TM-Jihad & civic virtue

2007-12-23 Thread Bhairitu
Get the Indian community in the US involved. Contact the India Currents magazine and have them do an investigative article. www.indiacurrents.com dhamiltony2k5 wrote: > Of Virtue: > > Marek asks: > but I'm curious > as to > what more you think can or should be done. > > Doug of FF suggesting > S

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-23 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Dec 23, 2007, at 9:33 AM, authfriend wrote: One more time: I've supported my charge that your interpretation is based on a gross misreading (not just an interpretation I disagree with, but a misreading, an error in understanding the phrasing of the text), in detail, twice: once in a post I ma

[FairfieldLife] Good and Bad Karma -- as Learning Opportunities (Re: Homicide and bad karma?)

2007-12-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Karma is sometime characterized as ONLY something that comes from > "bad" actions. The model of karma (independent of its rality, or > belief in it) is symmetrical. (Per the model) good and bad are > reflected upon one

Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie Fingers Pointing to the Moon

2007-12-23 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: > What are the scenes from movies that most "remind" you > of enlightenment? If you don't believe in enlightenment, > what are the scenes from the movies you've loved that > get you highest, because they evoke in you feelings of > fulfillment, or happiness, or peace, or whatever

Re: [FairfieldLife] Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA

2007-12-23 Thread Bhairitu
Has Ron Paul or Obama been peer reviewed by scientists? :-) Actually I like Edwards because he would go after big business as he has all his life from being a trial lawyer. The root of the ills of the US are due to the corporations. Rein them in and break them up and a lot of our problems w

Re: [FairfieldLife] Stunning Mars photos

2007-12-23 Thread Bhairitu
authfriend wrote: > http://www.nasa.gov/externalflash/Mars_as_art/index_noaccess.html You should see the ones they hide of the ancient city ruins.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-23 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Dec 23, 2007, at 11:34 AM, Angela Mailander wrote: Judy kindly gives me the number of the mail and tells me I can access it on the website. Trouble is, I can't access the website. I copied it for you, Angela. Unless you don't get my emails, you should have a copy of it in your mailbox.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes lecture - A New Heaven and a New Earth

2007-12-23 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > wrote: > > > > > > Blah, blah, blah Give me experiences, not > > endless > > > pep talks of spiritual pornography by a

[FairfieldLife] CBS Special: In God's Name tonight Sunday 12/23 Including Amma

2007-12-23 Thread Rick Archer
The two hour showing is tonight, December 23rd (9:00pm - 11:00pm, ET/PT). Here are highlights from the CBS press release: "IN GOD'S NAME", a CBS primetime special produced in association with the acclaimed French filmmakers Jules and Gedeon Naudet, will explore thecomplex questions of our time th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Fingers Pointing to the Moon

2007-12-23 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (Though John From Cincinnati, when he tells Kai, "See God, Kai" and then she swoons on her > mattress did kind of capture 'something' for me; so maybe I should just shut my > piehole and watch some more.) I loved Joh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Here's the age of science Off is talking about

2007-12-23 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > TurquoiseB wrote: > > We've now seen a couple of generations of TM > > teachers who have *no problem* with standing > > up in front of people swearing to them that TM > > is in no way a religious practice, a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA

2007-12-23 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Has Ron Paul or Obama been peer reviewed by scientists? :-) > > Actually I like Edwards because he would go after big business as he has > all his life from being a trial lawyer. The root of the ills of the US > a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Homicide and bad karma?

2007-12-23 Thread Duveyoung
Curtis, I don't think you've given me your best thinking on this issue. It is correct to advise those who rant about injustice to live in the now. I submit, honest, I do. I have a very peaceful life here in Wisconsin and I haven't seen, in person, a violent act by anyone for, geeze, maybe decad

[FairfieldLife] Re: Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA

2007-12-23 Thread Richard J. Williams
off wrote: > If it were not for Ron Paul, Obama would be > my vote. > This doesn't even make any sense! "I am absolutely determined that by the end of the first term of the next president, we should have universal health care in this country." - Barak Obama Paul advocates for the eliminati

[FairfieldLife] Re: Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA

2007-12-23 Thread Richard J. Williams
Bhairitu wrote: > Actually I like Edwards because he would go > after big business as he has all his life from > being a trial lawyer. > You sound pretty mixed up too! But it makes sense when you realize that John Edwards is way mixed up. According to what I've read, John Edwards co-sponsored

[FairfieldLife] Re: More on Hamlet: WAS Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I wouldn't call Angela's interpretation of "Taint not thy mind" a > "gross misreading." Many commentators on the play have indeed taken > this as a distinct thought, complete in itself and separate > from "nor contrive /

[FairfieldLife] Re: Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA

2007-12-23 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > off wrote: > > If it were not for Ron Paul, Obama would be > > my vote. > > > This doesn't even make any sense! That is why I tend towards Ron Paul's COMMITMENT to not being a dictator, and going thro

[FairfieldLife] Re: Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA

2007-12-23 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > off wrote: > > If it were not for Ron Paul, Obama would be > > my vote. > > > This doesn't even make any sense! Hardly a distinguishing characteristic for Off's posts. And some days, its quite the fashio

[FairfieldLife] Oh Joy! :( Strong Victory by Hindu Supremacist in India

2007-12-23 Thread new . morning
December 24, 2007 Strong Victory by Hindu Supremacist in India By SOMINI SENGUPTA NEW DELHI — He has been likened to Emperor Nero, who fiddled while Rome burned. He has been denied entry into the United States for violations of religious freedom, yet praised as a business-friendly politician who

[FairfieldLife] Re: Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA

2007-12-23 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" > wrote: > > > > off wrote: > > > If it were not for Ron Paul, Obama would be > > > my vote. > > > > > This doesn't even make any sense! It does

[FairfieldLife] Congratulations to Judy

2007-12-23 Thread shempmcgurk
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that Judy hasn't called anyone a liar in quite awhile? If my observation is correct, then congratulations are in order, Judy, for curtailing a most annoying habit.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA

2007-12-23 Thread shempmcgurk
She's a hot piece of ass. Smart, too. Which makes her even that much more attractive. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA > > (yep, a heavy night out recently leaves me in piggy heaven on the tube > tonight) >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: 20,000 Pandits in India

2007-12-23 Thread shukra69
25 Countries and also the U.S. if you imagine that they are doing program in the same place at the same time which they are not. Its a great achievement that there are several countries in the world now that do have a minimally sufficient supperadiance program - Trinidad and Tobago , Holland, P

[FairfieldLife] Re: CBS Special: In God's Name tonight Sunday 12/23 Including Amma

2007-12-23 Thread do.rflex
To Rick and others. If you are aware this becomes available on the internet, please post. Thanks. jrm in Brazil- --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The two hour showing is tonight, December 23rd (9:00pm - 11:00pm, ET/PT). > > Here are highlights

[FairfieldLife] Re: Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA

2007-12-23 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" > wrote: > > > > off wrote: > > > If it were not for Ron Paul, Obama would be > > > my vote. > > > > > This doesn't even make any sense! > > Hardly a d

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 23, 2007, at 11:34 AM, Angela Mailander wrote: > > > Judy kindly gives me the number of the mail and tells me I can > > access it on the website. Trouble is, I can't access the website. > > I copied it for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Fingers Pointing to the Moon

2007-12-23 Thread hermandan0
I'll jump in on this one with "I Love Huckabees", one scene it particular. This seems to be one of those love-it-or-hate-it movies, and I admit to being on the love-it side. The whole movie is pretty funny to me, but the scene that really does it in the context of this discussion is the one at the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The amazing thing is, she just made a post in which > she *again* accuses me of not having supported my > charge of a "gross misreading"--and goes on to quote, > in full, *all three posts* of mine that you reproduced >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-23 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Dec 23, 2007, at 1:23 PM, authfriend wrote: I copied it for you, Angela. Unless you don't get my emails, you should have a copy of it in your mailbox. The amazing thing is, she just made a post in which she *again* accuses me of not having supported my charge of a "gross misreading"--and g

[FairfieldLife] Fanatics personality Traits (Re: Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA)

2007-12-23 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" > > wrote: > > > > > > off wrote: > > > > If it were not for Ron Paul, Obama would be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Homicide and bad karma?

2007-12-23 Thread ruthsimplicity
IMHO, I think we should worry more about the here and now, rather than the this life, that life. This kind of karma: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz6Up9vF9b0

[FairfieldLife] Fanatics personality Traits (Re: Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA)

2007-12-23 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some additional thoughts regarding the below and actualization. Curtis, others too perhaps, displays the admirable trait, of trying to reach across the chasm to others operating at far different ranges 9or frequencies)

[FairfieldLife] Layers of Karma (Re: Homicide and bad karma?)

2007-12-23 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > IMHO, I think we should worry more about the here and now, rather than > the this life, that life. We all (hopefully) look to the potential results of our (major) actions prior to acting out. Out actions in thi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Fingers Pointing to the Moon

2007-12-23 Thread Bhairitu
ruthsimplicity wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > (Though John From Cincinnati, when he tells Kai, "See God, Kai" and > then she swoons on her > >> mattress did kind of capture 'something' for me; so maybe I should >> > just shut my

[FairfieldLife] Photos of Christmas lights on the Fairfield town square and MUM

2007-12-23 Thread Rick Archer
>From Marty Husebos in Fairfield Here is a link to images I've taken in the past weeks after our storms: HYPERLINK "http://www.beingandseeing.com/winter"; Also, here is a link to pictures from campus over the past year, including recent snow scenes: HYPERLI

[FairfieldLife] "The Maharishi Effect" on NPR

2007-12-23 Thread Rick Archer
Hi, Rick. Could you please post the following to FairfieldLife? Thanks! Hello, everyone. I thought you’d be interested to know that I’ll be appearing on public radio next week to discuss my book “The Maharishi Effect.” Please join me and host Anne Strainchamps on “To the Best of Our Knowledge,”

[FairfieldLife] Re: Congratulations to Judy

2007-12-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that Judy hasn't > called anyone a liar in quite awhile? > > If my observation is correct, then congratulations are in > order, Judy, for curtailing a most annoying habit.

[FairfieldLife] Good and Bad Karma -- as Learning Opportunities (Re: Homicide and bad karma?)

2007-12-23 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > wrote: > > > Karma is sometime characterized as ONLY something that comes from > > "bad" actions. The model of karma (independent of its rality, or > > belief in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA

2007-12-23 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" > > wrote: > > > > > > off wrote: > > > > If it were not for Ron Paul, Obama wo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA

2007-12-23 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > She's a hot piece of ass.>> Oh shut up old man. OffWorld > > Smart, too. Which makes her even that much more attractive. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > wrote: > > > > Michel

[FairfieldLife] Re: Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA

2007-12-23 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" > > wrote: > > > > > > off wrote: > > > > If it were not for Ron Paul, Obama would be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Congratulations to Judy

2007-12-23 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Dec 23, 2007, at 3:21 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that Judy hasn't called anyone a liar in quite awhile? If my observation is correct, then congratulations are in order, Judy,

[FairfieldLife] Fanatics personality Traits (Re: Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA)

2007-12-23 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" > > > wrote

[FairfieldLife] Self-Actualization vs (Self) Enlightenment

2007-12-23 Thread new . morning
I am wondering how mnay of us got on the "self-actualization" train, and not the Enlightenment train.* In the mid to late 60's and early 70's, TM, as well as life's quest, was all about actualization (or Actualization) not Enlightnement. The latter was not a term used, AFAIR, and we were a bit s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA

2007-12-23 Thread Richard J. Williams
off wrote: > ROn Paul was ADAMANTLY against the Iraq war at the time, > swimming alone in a sea of chickenhawk warmongers from > both parties. > So, you're thinking that the U.S. is in a war. Ron Paul voted for the 'Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Terrorists'. By voting to go

[FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Fingers Pointing to the Moon

2007-12-23 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" > wrote: > > (Though John From Cincinnati, when he tells Kai, "See God, > > Kai" and then she swoons on her mattress did kind of capture > > 'something' fo

[FairfieldLife] Fanatics personality Traits (Re: Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA)

2007-12-23 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > > Some additional thoughts regarding the below and actualization. > > Curtis, others too perhaps, displays the admirable trait, of trying to > reach acr

[FairfieldLife] When is Off Off? (Re: Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA)

2007-12-23 Thread new . morning
Rick, When exactly does this week-long hiatus for Off start? -- as a reward for his highest achievement in posting (if not shouting) volume last week. Was it 65 posts? I mean we need at least week of silence (his) to work our way through the vast complexity and depth of his expositions and logic.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA

2007-12-23 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > off wrote: > > ROn Paul was ADAMANTLY against the Iraq war at the time, > > swimming alone in a sea of chickenhawk warmongers from > > both parties. > > > So, you're thinking that the U.S. is in a war. >

[FairfieldLife] When is Off Off? (Re: Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA)

2007-12-23 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rick, > > When exactly does this week-long hiatus for Off start? -- as a reward > for his highest achievement in posting (if not shouting) volume last > week. Was it 65 posts? I mean we need at least week of silence

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-Actualization vs (Self) Enlightenment

2007-12-23 Thread Marek Reavis
New.Morning, great topic. If realization of self is independent of any necessary and sufficient status of the body or mind then actualization would not necessarily reference anything of realization. However, it seems highly unlikely (at least to me) that a truly actualized individual wouldn

[FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Fingers Pointing to the Moon

2007-12-23 Thread Marek Reavis
Ruth, there are more than a few fans of JOC here on FFL, myself included. Perhaps, as Bharitu points out, it'll be back on in the future. Nice to have you join the fray. Marek ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@

[FairfieldLife] Great collection!

2007-12-23 Thread cardemaister
http://sanskritdocuments.org/TextsElsewhere.html Vedic Reserve, coordinated by Peter Freund of Maharshi University of Management. A great collection.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA

2007-12-23 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > Ron Paul voted for the 'Authorization for Use of > > Military Force Against Terrorists'. > > off wrote: > He voted to go to Afghanisthan. > So, the U.S. is in a war and Ron Paul voted to go to war. But, what, exactly, is the plan to win the war? Why hasn't Ron Paul captured Osama bin Laden

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-Actualization vs (Self) Enlightenment

2007-12-23 Thread new . morning
Marek, Good points. The freedom from ownership (of thoughts, actions, attainments, achievements, talents, (gf attainemnts?) ), seems to be a natural lubricant for the smooth(er) functioning and transition to fuller actualization. I am not sure the reverse is true. While I can hear some cacklin

[FairfieldLife] Maybe some justification for the phenomenon of Rory/Jim-speak

2007-12-23 Thread do.rflex
[2 NOTES: Thanks to new.morning for coining the phrase 'Rory/Jim-speak.' I would have expected that Rory and/or Jim would have integrated their 'awakening' sufficiently enough to communicate cohesively with us ignorant slobs. -do.rflex] >From Vivekananda: ~When we wake from this dream of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] When is Off Off? (Re: Michelle Obama in Fairfiled, IA)

2007-12-23 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Dec 23, 2007, at 4:06 PM, new.morning wrote: Rick, When exactly does this week-long hiatus for Off start? -- as a reward for his highest achievement in posting (if not shouting) volume last week. Was it 65 posts? I mean we need at least week of silence (his) to work our way through the vast

Re: [FairfieldLife] More on Hamlet: WAS Deep Science and Narrow Science

2007-12-23 Thread Angela Mailander
Thank you, Feste. Hamlet is not resigned at the end because he has lived with the knowledge of his impending death since he killed Polonius. From that point on he knows that he is God's tool ("His scourge and minister") and will live long enough to serve that purpose--notice how he has stopped

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes lecture - A New Heaven and a New Earth

2007-12-23 Thread Angela Mailander
In my view, MMY changed radically at some point. I think it was after he had surgery in England. Sometimes, as a result of such extreme trauma, a personality changes completely. After that I missed the wisdom and the brilliant intellect. After that he repeated himself and adopted speech man

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