[FairfieldLife] Re: It's our land... (a Brief Outline for Israel's existence)

2009-01-13 Thread guyfawkes91
>> And where in the history of the Roman empire do you find this? >> Jesus is mentioned in Tacitus see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus_on_Jesus

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's our land... (a Brief Outline for Israel's existence)

2009-01-13 Thread Arhata Osho
My closest friend is arguably the top researcher on origins of religions and the manipulation - and yes by jews too Jesus myth hypothesis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaD.M. Murdock (publishing in part pseudonymously as "Acharya S") has published three books in support of the Jesus myth hypoth

[FairfieldLife] Clinton wows senate committee

2009-01-13 Thread Marek Reavis
HuffPost, 1.13.9 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/13/clintons-exhaustive- prep_n_157693.html At the opening of Sen. Hillary Clinton's confirmation hearings for the post of Secretary of State on Tuesday, the ranking Republican on theSenate Foreign Relations Committee offered a bit of perfun

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
L. Shaddai wrote: > MAPI products will slowly undergo more iterations > of starting to look like Crest toothpaste so's the > products can sell next to the vitamin display of > your local pharmacy/chemist shop. > Well, yes, L., that would make sense - put the Marshy vitamins next to all the othe

[FairfieldLife] The dismantling of the TMO as we know it

2009-01-13 Thread I am the eternal
I predict that the TMO as we know it will reinvent itself. That Doctor Bevan Morris and Dr. John Hagelin will retire and quickly thereafter no longer be mentioned in the TMO. That thereafter, once the sycophant fools Maharishi had to suffer are gone, the rajas will increasingly take a cue from Ra

[FairfieldLife] Christian Taliban Wants to make the Bible Law

2009-01-13 Thread Bhairitu
These lost souls are still obviously hung up in the Piscean age and want to prolong it. :-D I guess they want to make "The Handmade's Tale" come true. To hell with them I say! Kuru Kuru Swaha! http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Prop._8_and_longterm_agenda_of_0111.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
Vaj wrote: > I tend to not believe criminals and > their accomplices, esp. ones who hide > their monies and offer no transparency. > Well, that pretty much settles it doesn't it? The Marshy and his vaidyas are all crooks, liars and cheats, with no morals whatsoever! Ayerveda is quack medici

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread I am the eternal
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Vaj wrote: > > As far as I am aware, the pictures have been removed from the bottles. > Quite right. Pay attention, people. How many times do I have to repeat this? Maharishi made ammendments to the Constitution of the Universe. The TMO is to become not a rel

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread enlightened_dawn11
"vaj" is always most comfortable in the company, and taking the word of, members of the world's failed religions. it is why TM threatens him so much, and why he feels so very superior to the Maharishi. holiness to him means figures like the "compassionate" dalai lama, who is currently presidin

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread enlightened_dawn11
its a string! its a string! lol --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jan 13, 2009, at 8:32 PM, sparaig wrote: > > >> As far as I am aware, the pictures have been removed from the > >> bottles...but I haven't purchased any MAPI products on moral grounds > >> (and for safet

[FairfieldLife] Re: Musings on the trend that unites recent threads -- Faith vs. Proof

2009-01-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > You missed the point: there is no 'practice' that can > > bring liberation to man. Enlightenment isn't a > > practice; the enlightened state is not an object of > > cognition. > > yifuxero wrote: > I've not seen any evidence that going around saying > "we're already Enlightened" helps much

[FairfieldLife] The Optimist Creed

2009-01-13 Thread I am the eternal
*I Promise Myself* To be so strong that nothing can disturb my peace of mind. *I Promise Myself* To talk health, happiness, and prosperity to every person I meet. *I Promise Myself* To make all my friends feel that there is something worthwhile in them. *I Promise Myself* To look at the sun

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > So, Vaj, the 'world masters' of Indian music, Pandit > > Hariprasad Chaurasia, Debu Chaudhuri, and Pandit > > Shivkumar Sharma, were so impressed by the money from > > Marshy, that they recorded a series of over twenty > > albums for the Marshy? That doesn't even make any > > sense. > > > > And

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread Vaj
On Jan 13, 2009, at 8:32 PM, sparaig wrote: >> As far as I am aware, the pictures have been removed from the >> bottles...but I haven't purchased any MAPI products on moral grounds >> (and for safety reasons) in a while. Since Balraj specifically >> requested that MMY never use the formulations h

[FairfieldLife] Re: Musings on the trend that unites recent threads -- Faith vs. Proof

2009-01-13 Thread yifuxero
--- Willytex, this is just a play upon mere words. Call it want you want: undoing, unpractice, uncovering;but the practice generally amounts to the same thing: TM, or whatever other technique(s) work best. This is unless one is in the HWL Poonja camp "give up all techniques and just BE".

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > re

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > Most were involved for the money MMY paid, > > some actually had intellectual property stolen > > by MMY and I doubt few would have anything to > > do with him before his death. MMY

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jan 13, 2009, at 8:00 PM, Richard Williams wrote: > > >>> Yeah, sad that the 'world master of Indian music' > >>> was so impressed by the money that he recorded > >>> a series of sixteen albums for meditation for > >>> the Maharishi Mahes

[FairfieldLife] Some History for those who'd rather not hear it.

2009-01-13 Thread BillyG.
"The Romans joined the province of Judea (which already included Samaria) together with Galilee to form a new province, called Syria Palaestina, to *complete the disassociation* with Judaea.[27]. Notwithstanding the oppression, some two hundred Jewish communities remained." http://en.wikipedia.org

[FairfieldLife] Re: Musings on the trend that unites recent threads -- Faith vs. Proof

2009-01-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > The speech I quoted was from when the Marshy > > was making sense, boo, before he got all mixed > > up. But if what the Marshy said back then agrees > > with Shankara, then I'd go with that, instead of > > what he said later, when he was old and confused, > > and talking to King Tony, wouldn't

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread Vaj
On Jan 13, 2009, at 8:00 PM, Richard Williams wrote: Yeah, sad that the 'world master of Indian music' was so impressed by the money that he recorded a series of sixteen albums for meditation for the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Vaj wrote: It's what I've heard from respected people from Indian sch

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On Jan 13, 2009, at 12:09 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: > > > > > Vaj wrote: > > >> That was one of MMY's great suits, he > > >> could hunt down and find the best gurus, > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jan 13, 2009, at 12:09 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: > > > Vaj wrote: > >> That was one of MMY's great suits, he > >> could hunt down and find the best gurus, > >> pandits and vaidyas... > >> > > Maybe it was the pundits that 'hunt down

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's our land... (a Brief Outline for Israel's existence)

2009-01-13 Thread yifuxero
---from a blog (re: Naomi Wolf's vision of Jesus and herself as a 13- yr. old boy):" Born-again Christians might nod in recognition at Wolf's awakening, but secular society will find it extremely bizarre. At the time, she was struggling with writer's block, and sought help from a specialist, who

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's our land... (a Brief Outline for Israel's existence)

2009-01-13 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > And where in the history of the Roman empire do you find this? Fact is > there is NO such person in their history and they took good records. > Most likely the Jesus myth was concocted by fiction writers for a > morality tales. Some

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread Richard Williams
> > Yeah, sad that the 'world master of Indian music' > > was so impressed by the money that he recorded > > a series of sixteen albums for meditation for > > the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. > > Vaj wrote: > It's what I've heard from respected people from > Indian scholars to members of the Shankarach

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho wrote: > > Having been in Corporate Sales in Manhattan, Selling my poems and treatises outside of Rockerfeller Center I had friends both in Advertising and > Pharmaceutical Sales. Especially my Asian friends doing caricatures and drawings in T

[FairfieldLife] Re: OT: My friend can be kept alive just on the POM Pomegranate capsules he's taking

2009-01-13 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "I am the eternal" wrote: > > http://clincancerres.aacrjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/12/13/4018 > > This is a real, FDA sanctioned phase II study. > > Yes, Raunch, my friend's fixing to go to MD Anderson once he acquires all > the therapies he can before

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 > all i am left with is suggesting you try TM for awhile, and draw > your own conclusions. Fair enough. That is all anyone can do. > the so called conventional wisdom is often just conventional, and > not wisdom at all. go out on a l

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dome numbers Drop in FF

2009-01-13 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Now, just in the interest of full disclosure, but really apropos to nothing, you, meaning you Feste, don't still meditate, much less participate in super radiance-right? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > In a town of 9,500 people, these numbers are HUGE. Everyone dese

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2009-01-13 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Jan 10 00:00:00 2009 End Date (UTC): Sat Jan 17 00:00:00 2009 506 messages as of (UTC) Wed Jan 14 00:11:06 2009 45 enlightened_dawn11 38 authfriend 32 raunchydog 30 TurquoiseB 28 Vaj 28 Arhata Osho 24 I am the eter

[FairfieldLife] OT: My friend can be kept alive just on the POM Pomegranate capsules he's taking

2009-01-13 Thread I am the eternal
http://clincancerres.aacrjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/12/13/4018 This is a real, FDA sanctioned phase II study. Yes, Raunch, my friend's fixing to go to MD Anderson once he acquires all the therapies he can before going.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's our land... (a Brief Outline for Israel's existence)

2009-01-13 Thread Arhata Osho
Totally proven wrong!> What part of the History of the area do you dispute, that Christ > wasn't a Jew in Judea? "Jesus Christ is the founder of the Christian > Religion. He was a Jew, born in Bethlehem, Judea in approximately 4 > B.C. and died in Jerusalem in 30 A.D." need more History?

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > On Jan 12, 2009, at 8:53 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: > > > My experience is similar, though I doubt that I have told as many as > > you have told that I used to do TM. > > > > I sure would like to know the drop out rate. > > 95%. > > S

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > On Jan 12, 2009, at 8:53 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: > > > My experience is similar, though I doubt that I have told as many as > > you have told that I used to do TM. > > > > I sure would like to know the drop out rate. > > 95%. > > S

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread I am the eternal
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:53 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: > > My experience is similar, though I doubt that I have told as many as > you have told that I used to do TM. > > I sure would like to know the drop out rate. > > I've mentioned to hundreds of people on the plane (front cabin or back cabin),

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's our land... (a Brief Outline for Israel's existence)

2009-01-13 Thread Bhairitu
BillyG. wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > >> You right wingers love the Zionists, because they are right wing >> Israelis. To set up the state of Israel where it is makes about as >> > much > >> sense as if the KKK were to move into East L.A. It w

[FairfieldLife] Words from the Master

2009-01-13 Thread arhatafreespeech
God couldn't have said it more clearly. Love is just a word that has been reduced to using at 'fast food' burger joints. It's meaning needs be backed  by a feeling of unconditionalness. Arhata Words from the Master Nothing is as misconstrued as love is today. Tod

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "I am the eternal" wrote: > > > Maharishi has us listen to the Rig Veda to enliven subatomic particles? > Yeah, sure. Round about the Taste of Utopia I would have not believed that > but out of shear exhaustion would have said, "yeah, well, OK". But that w

[FairfieldLife] Re: FF community chanting Shri Shuktam

2009-01-13 Thread dhamiltony2k5
MP3 of the group chanting http://www.vedavishwa.org/mantras/Sri2.mp3 > > Video on YouTube > > Opening pujas & chanting > > youtube at: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-jwfU0LNJw > > > > > > Chanting the Shri Shuktam > > > > > > Ongoing this weekend, > > > > Morning Star Studio on th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Musings on the trend that unites recent threads -- Faith vs. Proof

2009-01-13 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > wrote: > > > -snip- > > And for some, Faith *IS* "enough." They continue > > to believe today the same stuff they were told 30 > > or more years ago, and they believe it *withou

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > There is a strong desire for the doctor to "do something" when a sick > person visits them. Yes, a problem. One effective way around the problem is telling personal experience stories where you as the MD or your kids did not tak

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > regarding the achievement of a state of continuous samadhi, > > > and "shouting it

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > what thype of "rigorous > requirements" would you suggest for studies done > on homeopathy? > > I'm asking out of curiosity because a friend of > mine is a homeopath, and has clued me in to some > of the recent attempts to demonize that p

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's our land... (a Brief Outline for Israel's existence)

2009-01-13 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > You right wingers love the Zionists, because they are right wing > Israelis. To set up the state of Israel where it is makes about as much > sense as if the KKK were to move into East L.A. It was bound to cause > trouble. Before the

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's our land... (a Brief Outline for Israel's existence)

2009-01-13 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" wrote: > > BillyG wrote: > > For some on this forum, facts don't matter > > if they don't concur with their previously > > drawn conclusions. The below information is > > largely factual and yet the lies continue, > > lies which the m

[FairfieldLife] Mirror Neurons again

2009-01-13 Thread Vaj
I previously posted about the emerging science on Mirror Neurons: In his recent work _The Mindful Brain: Reflection and Attunement in the Cultivation of Well-Being_, psychiatrist and attachment disorder expert Dan Siegel talks a good bit about how mindfulness meditation is a form of inner at

Re: [FairfieldLife] Aryan migration into India

2009-01-13 Thread Bhairitu
yifuxero wrote: > PBS' Michael Woods traced the origins of the Aryan migration into India > to Turkmenistan, with the assistance of various scholars and indigenous > experts. He cleverly picked up the pieces of circumstantial evidence > (reminding me of the "Reeces Pieces" episode in ET); by fir

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's our land... (a Brief Outline for Israel's existence)

2009-01-13 Thread Arhata Osho
No question.  Can get confusing! Arhata Richard J. Williams wrote: > BillyG wrote: > >> For some on this forum, facts don't matter >> if they don't concur with their previously >> drawn conclusions. The below information is >> largely factual and yet the lies

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's our land... (a Brief Outline for Israel's existence)

2009-01-13 Thread Bhairitu
Richard J. Williams wrote: > BillyG wrote: > >> For some on this forum, facts don't matter >> if they don't concur with their previously >> drawn conclusions. The below information is >> largely factual and yet the lies continue, >> lies which the media carry with alacrity >> and the coward

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread Vaj
On Jan 13, 2009, at 3:41 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: >>> If so, they must have been VERY impressed >>> with the TM program. >>> > Vaj wrote: >> Think of them as "paid consultants"-- that's >> the impression I get from those familiar. >> > Yeah, sad that the 'world master of Indian music' > was

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread authfriend
I'll have to get back to this later for a fuller response, but I just want to make a couple of quick points: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > Again, what I'm after is how to evaluate the claim that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Musings on the trend that unites recent threads -- Faith vs. Proof

2009-01-13 Thread yifuxero
--- So Willytex, why is what Shankara said "the truth". Lakshmanjoo says (p.105 of Kashmir Shaivism): "Vedanta holds that this teaching can only be practiced by "worthy people" such as brahmins which "good qualities". In fact, Samkaracharya holds that Vedanta is meant only for samyasins and

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's our land... (a Brief Outline for Israel's existence)

2009-01-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
BillyG wrote: > For some on this forum, facts don't matter > if they don't concur with their previously > drawn conclusions. The below information is > largely factual and yet the lies continue, > lies which the media carry with alacrity > and the cowardly so-called Palestinians > manufacture

[FairfieldLife] Re: Musings on the trend that unites recent threads -- Faith vs. Proof

2009-01-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > It's been so long now, that I don't even > > think you remember what exactly the Marshy > > said. It's been what, thirty or more years > > since you even heard the guy speak? > > boo wrote: > You go and post a quote from "Marshy" from > 37 yrs ago. > > If in fact you've been listening

[FairfieldLife] Re: Musings on the trend that unites recent threads -- Faith vs. Proof

2009-01-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > It is NOT the practice of taking that > > direction. NOT THE PRACTICE. It is the > > nature of the mind to move in a direction > > of greater happiness. The practice is not > > needed to reach the goal. > > yifuxero wrote: > This is a form of Neo-Advaitinism, not the > Marshy's teachings. > S

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > If so, they must have been VERY impressed > > with the TM program. > > Vaj wrote: > Think of them as "paid consultants"-- that's > the impression I get from those familiar. > Yeah, sad that the 'world master of Indian music' was so impressed by the money that he recorded a series of sixteen

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
Paul Mason wrote: > He played his flute at a local church a few > months back. Image that, this great superstar > coming to St Ives Cornwall > Pandit Hariprasad Chaurasia Saturday, February 8, 2003 at 7:00 PM Bates Recital Hall University of Texas at Austin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Musings on the trend that unites recent threads -- Faith vs. Proof

2009-01-13 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" wrote: > > TurquoiseB wrote: > > They believed Maharishi when he told > > them that TM produced enlightenment... > > > It's been so long now, that I don't even > think you remember what exactly the Marshy > said. It's been what, thirty

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: But according to Maharishi's own > standards it has also failed. He set the bar high at mastery of > sidhis and never retracted this objective test for enlightenment. And > saying that guys like Tony can fly but don't choose too i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vatican and Limbo

2009-01-13 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > "John" wrote: > > I've heard that the Vatican no longer believes in the existence of > > Limbo. So, those unbaptized babies who died in the past have gone > to heaven, we can assume. > > John, > > Not sure if you're posting with reli

[FairfieldLife] Science that makes the TMO research look legit

2009-01-13 Thread mainstream20016
When I read the Wash. Post this morning, I felt spoofed - the graphic :http://tiny.cc/VvXC2 the article: http://tiny.cc/Ihi3Z

[FairfieldLife] Re: Musings on the trend that unites recent threads -- Faith vs. Proof

2009-01-13 Thread yifuxero
-This is a form of Neo-Advaitinism, not the Marshy's teachings. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" wrote: > > TurquoiseB wrote: > > They believed Maharishi when he told > > them that TM produced enlightenment... > > > It's been so long now, that I don't even > think yo

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" wrote: > > billy jim wrote: > > We had a discussion at the time about where > > Maharishi could have obtained his meditation > > bija-mantras... > > > The Adi Shankara described the yogic path in his > vartika on the commentary on Yo

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > Not according to Maharishi. He seemed to believe > > that TM practice would improve all aspects of a > > person in a measurable way. So I don't think it is > > a category error. > > Yes, but what I'm talking about is whether a per

[FairfieldLife] Re: Musings on the trend that unites recent threads -- Faith vs. Proof

2009-01-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote: > They believed Maharishi when he told > them that TM produced enlightenment... > It's been so long now, that I don't even think you remember what exactly the Marshy said. It's been what, thirty or more years since you even heard the guy speak? According to the Marshy, it is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Musings on the trend that unites recent threads -- Faith vs. Proof

2009-01-13 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > -snip- > And for some, Faith *IS* "enough." They continue > to believe today the same stuff they were told 30 > or more years ago, and they believe it *without* > the benefit of any Proof. And interestingly these > people seem to think th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Musings on the trend that unites recent threads -- Faith vs. Proof

2009-01-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > It seems to me that many of the threads in the > last few days (as, in fact, many of the threads > throughout FFL's whole history) have dealt with > the same face-off between Faith and Proof. > > In the realm of "enlightenment," what w

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 > > wrote: > > > > > > you are entitled to your uninformed opinion, and your arrogant > > > attitu

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread Paul Mason
Allegedly, in 2006 journalists were offered backsheesh flights etc to go interview Maharishi at Vlodrop, but there were few takers for the King's Shilling, in fact I recall only two newpaper columnists popping over at that time and it not known whether they were press- ganged. --- In Fairfiel

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" wrote: > > Does pandit Hari P actually extol TM publicly? > He played his flute at a local church a few months back. Image that, > this great superstar coming to St Ives Cornwall I wish I'd known! That's not far for me http://tinyurl.com/9

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread Paul Mason
Allegedly, in 2006 journalists were offered backsheesh flights etc to go interview Maharishi at Vlodrop, but there were few takers, in fact I recall only two writers who accepted the King's Shilling. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jan 13, 2009, at 12:09 PM, Richard

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > > While I agree with what you have written, I still > > > think it is up to the movement to provide the > > > evidence for its claims. They are selling

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread billy jim
Back in the mid-80's Korean Zen master Seung Sahn Nim, while guiding a retreat, was asked whether Master Hsuan Hua was a Zen Master. Seung Sahn Nim described him as a Tripitaka master. He considered him important for his role in inspiring young Americans to take up Dharma practice in a manner s

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread Paul Mason
Does pandit Hari P actually extol TM publicly? He played his flute at a local church a few months back. Image that, this great superstar coming to St Ives Cornwall --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" wrote: > > Vaj wrote: > > That was one of MMY's great suits, he

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread Vaj
On Jan 13, 2009, at 12:09 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Vaj wrote: That was one of MMY's great suits, he could hunt down and find the best gurus, pandits and vaidyas... Maybe it was the pundits that 'hunt down' the Marshy, Vaj - Dr. Dwivedi, Dr. Triguna, Dr. Balaraj Maharishi, Pandit Harip

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Inquisition gets to ¨certify¨ miracles now

2009-01-13 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > Since stories about the Vatican have been in > the air on FFL today, here´s another one. Vaguely related... The BBC recently ran a rather odd supernatural drama called "Apparitions" starring Martin Shaw as a maverick exorcist battling

[FairfieldLife] Musings on the trend that unites recent threads -- Faith vs. Proof

2009-01-13 Thread TurquoiseB
It seems to me that many of the threads in the last few days (as, in fact, many of the threads throughout FFL's whole history) have dealt with the same face-off between Faith and Proof. In the realm of "enlightenment," what we've seen is a contingent here who seem to feel passion- ately that req

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting approach to economic hard times

2009-01-13 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > She is an attractive young lady but I would offer no more than $400, > and that would have to be for a whole night. This chick is a 3 Chardonnay MAX investment. Sooo true! > in my opinion, since in all other occupations inexperience

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > While I agree with what you have written, I still > > think it is up to the movement to provide the > > evidence for its claims. They are selling a > > product after all. And it is making very > > substantial claims for that pr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting approach to economic hard times

2009-01-13 Thread feste37
She is an attractive young lady but I would offer no more than $400, and that would have to be for a whole night. Virginity is overrated, in my opinion, since in all other occupations inexperience is considered a drawback and lowers what one can expect to receive in compensation. I don't see why se

[FairfieldLife] Bogus credit card charge hits millions--check your statements!

2009-01-13 Thread authfriend
Mysterious credit card charge may have hit millions of users By Mitch Lipka, Globe Correspondent | January 11, 2009 Several Internet complaint boards are filled with comments from credit card customers from coast to coast who have noticed a mysterious charge for about 25 cents on their statemen

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
billy jim wrote: > We had a discussion at the time about where > Maharishi could have obtained his meditation > bija-mantras... > The Adi Shankara described the yogic path in his vartika on the commentary on Yoga Sutras by Vyasa. Shankaracharya has also explained the mantra and tantra in his

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dome numbers Drop in FF

2009-01-13 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > In a town of 9,500 people, these numbers are HUGE. Everyone deserves > congratulations for doing what it takes to maintain superradiance, now > in its 30th year. Yeah, what a resounding success the Siddhis program has been, in spite of t

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Inquisition gets to ¨certify¨ miracles now

2009-01-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > Is the "New Inquisition's" approach to someone > claiming to have had the same experiences that > literally hundreds of saints have had by sil- > encing those who claim such things interesting? > You betcha. > > Is the fact that it's simi

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread enlightened_dawn11
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 > wrote: > > > > you are entitled to your uninformed opinion, and your arrogant > > attitude ("TM apologists", etc.), and that is all it is. > > > > the practice of TM, for

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
Vaj wrote: > That was one of MMY's great suits, he > could hunt down and find the best gurus, > pandits and vaidyas... > Maybe it was the pundits that 'hunt down' the Marshy, Vaj - Dr. Dwivedi, Dr. Triguna, Dr. Balaraj Maharishi, Pandit Hariprasad Chaurasia, Debu Chaudhuri, and Pandit Shivku

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Inquisition gets to ¨certify¨ miracles now

2009-01-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > Since stories about the Vatican have been in > > the air on FFL today, here´s another one. > > > > For personal reasons having to do with my > > interest in the medieval pe

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > > These assumptions and that conclusion may be > > correct, but we don't *know* that for sure, and > > we shouldn't pretend we do. Maybe there are ways > > we could rule out the other possibilities, but > > we can't do that if we

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Inquisition gets to ¨certify¨ miracles now

2009-01-13 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > Since stories about the Vatican have been in > the air on FFL today, here´s another one. > > For personal reasons having to do with my > interest in the medieval period, I follow > the history of the Office of the Holy > Inquisition wi

[FairfieldLife] Evolution of Dance 2 --- was: Re: Barenaked Ladies

2009-01-13 Thread Duveyoung
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inLBPVG8oEU I'm happy to report that, old fogey or not, I apparently have kept up with music enough that the above "compendium of dance styles" is still completely recognizable to meall the songs and all the styles of dance. Sure wish Napoleon Dynamite had this

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: > > you are entitled to your uninformed opinion, and your arrogant > attitude ("TM apologists", etc.), and that is all it is. > > the practice of TM, for anyone who stuck with it, turns out to be > everything the Maharishi said i

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread curtisdeltablues
> These assumptions and that conclusion may be > correct, but we don't *know* that for sure, and > we shouldn't pretend we do. Maybe there are ways > we could rule out the other possibilities, but > we can't do that if we don't acknowledge their > existence. While I agree with what you have writte

[FairfieldLife] Re: Barenaked Ladies

2009-01-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > Nothing like oldies but goodies, but I sure wish I could honestly tap > my foot in time with today's music with a passion that long ago was > attenuated by many notches. > > Someone like Curtis may be expected to have had a larger view of

[FairfieldLife] The Inquisition gets to ¨certify¨ miracles now

2009-01-13 Thread TurquoiseB
Since stories about the Vatican have been in the air on FFL today, here´s another one. For personal reasons having to do with my interest in the medieval period, I follow the history of the Office of the Holy Inquisition with some interest. It lasted for *600 years* and was only eliminated from

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's Interpretation of the Rig Veda

2009-01-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
billy jim wrote: > He was the pandit with the fan that had > various devabijakshara on the fan folds... > It would seem that the Marshy got confused - instead of extolling the Vedas, he should have been promoting the tantras. Apparently there are no 'bija' mantras memtioned in the Rig Veda. In

[FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread curtisdeltablues
> Thanks for pondering this, and for your reply if > you have one. I'm really not trying to "challenge" > you or put you on the spot, and I *agree* with > your assessment of the NIH Center for Complementary > and Alternative Medicine as it currently works. I'm > just asking because of my friend's

[FairfieldLife] New Indian News Service; Maha Media

2009-01-13 Thread nablusoss1008
http://www.mahamedians.com/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: abandoning thought

2009-01-13 Thread Arhata Osho
Having been in Corporate Sales in Manhattan, I had friends both in Advertising and Pharmaceutical Sales.  Sales is about making money - from idea to finished product, it's about money.  The buyer, should be about 'awareness'.  Awareness, hopefully, creates responsibility in a drugged out world!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Barenaked Ladies

2009-01-13 Thread Duveyoung
Whenever I get a song going in my head that I cannot stop, I go to any of the songs below and listen to (usually only one song is all it takes) them to counterbalance my nervous system's obsession by giving it another song to compete for my brain's attentioning. I use the below list of songs that

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