[FairfieldLife] Ethical behavior (was Re: spirituality spot found in brain)

2009-01-22 Thread dhamiltony2k5
< Like with the "quiet time" in public schools. Their guidelines will in all practicality proly get to be like the Yogananda org does with its meetings for their large group meditations now. Very clearly stating they practice a silent meditation and folks are welcome to practice their own silent me

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Quiet Time' in the Classroom

2009-01-22 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Good link Bob. Regardless, they (the TMorg) got this problem of human nature with then forcing TM as the 'Quiet Time': "Conventional thinking said that religious uniformity made for order and tranquility, but Madison disagreed. Enforced homogeneity was smothering and bred unrest. Recalling V

[FairfieldLife] Hillary Goes to Foggy Bottom

2009-01-22 Thread raunchydog
Video: http://tinyurl.com/dc7azs Text: SECRETARY CLINTON: Thank you. Thank you all so much. Well, I am absolutely honored and thrilled beyond words to be here with you as our nation's 67th Secretary of State. And I believe, with all of my heart, that this is a new era for America. (Applause.) Pre

[FairfieldLife] Spiritual Window Shoppers

2009-01-22 Thread arhatafreespeech
January 19 Valley Stream, New York Spiritual Window Shoppers These spiritual window-shoppers, who idly ask, 'How much is that?' Oh, I'm just looking. They handle a hundred items and put them down, shadows with no capital.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judge Obama on Performance Alone

2009-01-22 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > On Jan 22, 2009, at 7:03 PM, raunchydog wrote: > > > If Obama really screwed up something, would you be reluctant to > > criticism him because he is black > > It's the new racism--anyone who doesn't spend every > last ounce of energy

[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy's World 1

2009-01-22 Thread Alex Stanley
Ok, that was sorta cool. But, why a 1.4MB TIFF file? Even at the highest quality compression setting, converting it to JPG reduced it to 330KB with very little loss of image quality. Dropping the "save quality" from 100 to 85 brought the file size down to 151KB, and still no appreciable loss of ima

[FairfieldLife] Argyria from an Ayurvedic product

2009-01-22 Thread shukra69
Himani Sona Chandi Amritparash I got some argyria from that stuff.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers?

2009-01-22 Thread emptybill
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal wrote: "A bit too much information here." "Mean spirited over disclosure, IMO." If you don't want to hear it then don't listen. If you don't want to see then don't watch. If you don't want to know then ignore. Howeve

[FairfieldLife] American Greatness Over?

2009-01-22 Thread Arhata Osho
The enemy of my enemy is my friend -  China attitude toward Muslims? The most important article I have ever posted The year American greatness collapsed By Jeffrey T. Kuhner The Washington Times, January 12, 2009 Click: www.israel-commenta ry.org http://www.freedomofspeech.netfirms.com/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judge Obama on Performance Alone

2009-01-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > On Jan 22, 2009, at 7:03 PM, raunchydog wrote: > > > If Obama really screwed up something, would you be reluctant to > > criticism him because he is black > > It's the new racism--anyone who doesn't spend every > last ounce of energy

[FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers in the San Francisco Bay Area?

2009-01-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
> IIRC part of the pledge of the TM teacher was to teach it under the > circumstances dictated by MMY and/or the organizations he created to > carry out his mission. SO the question arises: if someone violates a > promise in one sense, do you trust them to not violate the promise in> another. >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Judge Obama on Performance Alone

2009-01-22 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 22, 2009, at 7:03 PM, raunchydog wrote: > If Obama really screwed up something, would you be reluctant to > criticism him because he is black It's the new racism--anyone who doesn't spend every last ounce of energy "criticizing" Obama is surely restraining themselves because he's...black!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's place and date-of-birth

2009-01-22 Thread I am the eternal
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 7:15 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." wrote: > > What? I should be unhappy MMY wasn't Jesus Christ or something? > > > > He opened the spiritual eyes of many, many people... > > That's right. And He inaugurated the Dawn of the Age

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's place and date-of-birth

2009-01-22 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." wrote: What? I should be unhappy MMY wasn't Jesus Christ or something? > > He opened the spiritual eyes of many, many people... That's right. And He inaugurated the Dawn of the Age of Enlightenment in 1975. This, amongst all the glorious achive

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's place and date-of-birth

2009-01-22 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On Jan 22, 2009, at 4:31 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" > > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> I have just put up a copy of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers in the San Francisco Bay Area?

2009-01-22 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" > > wrote: > > > Well, yes but it is not 'TM' of course because it is not taught > > > through the TM organizatio

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judge Obama on Performance Alone

2009-01-22 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > wrote: > > > > > > > > All this is doing is attempting to preemptively justify > > > the inevitable silly criticis

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's place and date-of-birth

2009-01-22 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" wrote: > > > > I have just put up a copy of the profile pages of one of Maharishi's > > passports at:- > > http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/introduction.htm#MMYpassport > > I have also

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2009-01-22 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Jan 17 00:00:00 2009 End Date (UTC): Sat Jan 24 00:00:00 2009 611 messages as of (UTC) Thu Jan 22 23:29:18 2009 49 TurquoiseB 41 authfriend 40 I am the eternal 33 Bhairitu 27 Duveyoung 27 Arhata Osho 26 shempmcgurk

[FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers?

2009-01-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > authfriend: > FWIW, the term I heard over and over during my > TM-Sidhis instruction was that the sutra is an > *intention*, which is more than just an "idea," > I think. >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers?

2009-01-22 Thread emptybill
Yep it is o.k. I think we have a similar understanding here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > As a follow up: the words "intent and intention" were > > used in those days > > (1984, for me, FWIW.) > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Quiet Time' in the Classroom

2009-01-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" > wrote: > > > > David Lynch Foundation > > > > http://www.stressfreesummit.org/video/ > > > > > ** > > TM can gain a foothold in private/charter schools, but I don't t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's place and date-of-birth

2009-01-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" wrote: > > I have just put up a copy of the profile pages of one of Maharishi's > passports at:- > http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/introduction.htm#MMYpassport > I have also put up a copy of a note he wrote back in April 1955. > Is that 1918

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judge Obama on Performance Alone

2009-01-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > wrote: > > > > > All this is doing is attempting to preemptively justify > > the inevitable silly criticism of his every move from the > > HIllaryites and others who would love to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers?

2009-01-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > As a follow up: the words "intent and intention" were > used in those days (1984, for me, FWIW.) > to highlight the instruction not to sub-vocalize the > sutra but to entertain it at a very subtle level. If > the sutra was not an idea b

[FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers?

2009-01-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim wrote: > > > The facts remain the same. The crux of a sutra is > > its meaning because the sutra is an idea. It is > > that idea which is entertained in awareness through > > the mode of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers in the San Francisco Bay Area?

2009-01-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" > wrote: > > Well, yes but it is not 'TM' of course because it is not taught > > through the TM organization. > > > The definition of TM is "Transcendental Meditation as taugh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers in the San Francisco Bay Area?

2009-01-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" > > > wrote: > > > > Well, yes bu

[FairfieldLife] Help!!!!! Re: received reply from Jerry J. (re: Edg.)

2009-01-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jan 22, 2009, at 3:09 AM, Duveyoung wrote: > > > My rough listing of issues I'll hit Jerry with are: > > > > International money smuggling. > > > > How the TMO justified taking away ATR credits? > > > > Why no hovering? > > > > Why Jerry

[FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers?

2009-01-22 Thread emptybill
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: authfriend: FWIW, the term I heard over and over during my TM-Sidhis instruction was that the sutra is an *intention*, which is more than just an "idea," I think. empty: The facts remain the same. The crux of a sutra is its meaning

[FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers?

2009-01-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jan 21, 2009, at 10:51 PM, billy jim wrote: > > > " - or that the siddhi program doesn't use Sanskrit?" > > > > I'm wondering where people got the idea that the various sutras > > should be used only in a Sanskrit form? > > Tat Whale B

[FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers in the San Francisco Bay Area?

2009-01-22 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" > > wrote: > > > Well, yes but it is not 'TM' of course because it is not taught > > > through the TM organi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's place and date-of-birth

2009-01-22 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jan 22, 2009, at 4:31 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" > > wrote: > >> > >> I have just put up a copy of the profile pages of one of Maharishi's > >> passports at:- > > > > > > "paul mas

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's place and date-of-birth

2009-01-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" wrote: > > This passport is from June 1970 and in his 1973 passport he signs > much the same. When he signed peoples books he didn't sign himself > Maharishi, he actually wrote a form of 'Jaya Gurudeva' (but ommitting > the tops of the letters)

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Quiet Time' in the Classroom

2009-01-22 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" wrote: > > David Lynch Foundation > > http://www.stressfreesummit.org/video/ > ** TM can gain a foothold in private/charter schools, but I don't think the legal climate is there for TM in public schools. In Illinois, even a minut

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's place and date-of-birth

2009-01-22 Thread Vaj
On Jan 22, 2009, at 4:31 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" wrote: I have just put up a copy of the profile pages of one of Maharishi's passports at:- "paul mason", you are a very sick person. What scared you so much about the passport Nabby? We

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's place and date-of-birth

2009-01-22 Thread Paul Mason
This passport is from June 1970 and in his 1973 passport he signs much the same. When he signed peoples books he didn't sign himself Maharishi, he actually wrote a form of 'Jaya Gurudeva' (but ommitting the tops of the letters). To date I have not seen a signature where he signed as Maharishi.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and the Dalai Lama

2009-01-22 Thread Duveyoung
Awesome! Intuitively speaking, that photo of them reeks with giddy love. All hail this energy in yourselves, hail, and bow deeply to unfettered consciousness shared! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > Auscipious! > > President Obama was sworn in with a khata (white offerin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's place and date-of-birth

2009-01-22 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" > wrote: > > > > I have just put up a copy of the profile pages of one of Maharishi's > > passports at:- > > > "paul mason", you are a very sick person. > > Get professional he

[FairfieldLife] Obama and the Dalai Lama

2009-01-22 Thread Vaj
Auscipious! President Obama was sworn in with a khata (white offering scarf) from the Dalai Lama in his pocket, delivered to him by Diane Feinstein's husband, Richard Blum, shortly before the ceremony. Blum had the khata at his house given to him by HH the Dalai Lama which he offered to P

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's place and date-of-birth

2009-01-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" > wrote: > > > > I have just put up a copy of the profile pages of one of Maharishi's > > passports at:- > > > "paul mason", you are a very sick person. > > Get professional help

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chanting Hare Krishna 2X20 in schools in NOT a Religion.

2009-01-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." wrote: > > After all, you don't have to believe in it for it to work, it's a > *stand-alone* technique, come on! And taking communion regularly > doesn't mean you're a practicing Catholic either...gads. > > I mean, I see Muslims chanting Hare Krishn

[FairfieldLife] Chanting Hare Krishna 2X20 in schools in NOT a Religion.

2009-01-22 Thread BillyG.
After all, you don't have to believe in it for it to work, it's a *stand-alone* technique, come on! And taking communion regularly doesn't mean you're a practicing Catholic either...gads. I mean, I see Muslims chanting Hare Krishna and it doesn't conflict with their Religion, (Catholics, too) in f

[FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers in the San Francisco Bay Area?

2009-01-22 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > From a friend: > > A friend of mine is very interested in learning TM, though he cannot > afford the current fee of $2500. Does anyone know of an independent >TM > teacher who can provide instruction for less, in the San Francisco

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's place and date-of-birth

2009-01-22 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" wrote: > > I have just put up a copy of the profile pages of one of Maharishi's > passports at:- "paul mason", you are a very sick person. Get professional help.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers in the San Francisco Bay Area?

2009-01-22 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > >> TurquoiseB wrote: >> >>> Another is the fact that many teachers really >>> *did* feel a "buzz" from doing puja. I never >>> felt much of one, but some did, and they assoc- >>> iate that buzz with magical thinki

[FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers in the San Francisco Bay Area?

2009-01-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > TurquoiseB wrote: > > Another is the fact that many teachers really > > *did* feel a "buzz" from doing puja. I never > > felt much of one, but some did, and they assoc- > > iate that buzz with magical thinking and feel > > that something a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers?

2009-01-22 Thread ultrarishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:55 PM, ultrarishi wrote: > > > > > From what I remember about my CIC course, was that I WAS surprised, > > but not shocked that sutras were in English. But, on the tape that > > Neil was playing of MMY gi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers in the San Francisco Bay Area?

2009-01-22 Thread yifuxero
---True - it's the Shakti (but not much of that in Spain). In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > TurquoiseB wrote: > > > Another is the fact that many teachers really > > > *did* feel a "buzz" from doing puja. I ne

[FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers in the San Francisco Bay Area?

2009-01-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > TurquoiseB wrote: > > Another is the fact that many teachers really > > *did* feel a "buzz" from doing puja. I never > > felt much of one, but some did, and they assoc- > > iate that buzz with magical thinking and feel > > that something a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers in the San Francisco Bay Area?

2009-01-22 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: > Another is the fact that many teachers really > *did* feel a "buzz" from doing puja. I never > felt much of one, but some did, and they assoc- > iate that buzz with magical thinking and feel > that something about *their* buzz helped give > their initiates a buzz, too. > Tha

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi's place and date-of-birth

2009-01-22 Thread Paul Mason
I have just put up a copy of the profile pages of one of Maharishi's passports at:- http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/introduction.htm#MMYpassport I have also put up a copy of a note he wrote back in April 1955.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Help!!!!! Re: received reply from Jerry J. (re: Edg.)

2009-01-22 Thread Peter
--- On Thu, 1/22/09, boo_lives wrote: > > So maybe don't expect too much from Jerry. Jerry had to deal with the same dysfunctional bullshit that we did in the TMO and with MMY but probably even more so because of his position. He's not privy to anything other than his own experience. No s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers?

2009-01-22 Thread I am the eternal
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:55 PM, ultrarishi wrote: > > From what I remember about my CIC course, was that I WAS surprised, > but not shocked that sutras were in English. But, on the tape that > Neil was playing of MMY giving the sanyama instruction, MMY explained > that the language was not impor

Re: [FairfieldLife] Yogic flying and the five knots

2009-01-22 Thread Vaj
On Jan 22, 2009, at 12:48 PM, emptybill wrote: Here it is significant to note that the yoga-sadhanas of Naropa and Maitripa have detailed knowledge-practices (Tsa-Lung) for clearing all the prana-nadis. Note also that contemporary Tibetan practitioners have mastered both tsa-lung and tummo inne

[FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers?

2009-01-22 Thread ultrarishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim wrote: > > " - or that the siddhi program doesn't use Sanskrit?" > > I'm wondering where people got the idea that the various sutras should be used only in a Sanskrit form? Although trained as a TM teacher, I took my sutra training at a citizen sidd

[FairfieldLife] Help!!!!! Re: received reply from Jerry J. (re: Edg.)

2009-01-22 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > > What does he think of the million dollar course, the crowns, etc.? > > > > > > Has he been in contact with

[FairfieldLife] Help!!!!! Re: received reply from Jerry J. (re: Edg.)

2009-01-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > Thanks for the recommendation. I was planning to see it > on the strength of Philip Seymour Hoffman being in it > already. Know what you mean. I once wrote a scre

[FairfieldLife] Help!!!!! Re: received reply from Jerry J. (re: Edg.)

2009-01-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > I think Jerry is more intelligent than I am, I don't see any reason for you to assume this. You might have a different take on him interacting with him without the "specialness" context and as a more aware adult. > > --- In FairfieldL

[FairfieldLife] Inauguration: The Big Picture

2009-01-22 Thread authfriend
Boston.com's Big Picture photo blog does its usual stellar job of collecting the best photos of the inauguration festivities, including a bunch of deeply moving shots of people watching the inauguration all over the world: http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/01/the_inauguration_of_president.h tm

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judge Obama on Performance Alone

2009-01-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > All this is doing is attempting to preemptively justify > the inevitable silly criticism of his every move from the > HIllaryites and others who would love to bring him down > but don't want to appear to be doing it openly. Gosh, > W

[FairfieldLife] Help!!!!! Re: received reply from Jerry J. (re: Edg.)

2009-01-22 Thread Duveyoung
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > What does he think of the million dollar course, the crowns, etc.? > > > > Has he been in contact with Maharishi since he dropped the body? > > > > Edg > > Please take your

[FairfieldLife] Help!!!!! Re: received reply from Jerry J. (re: Edg.)

2009-01-22 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > What does he think of the million dollar course, the crowns, etc.? > > Has he been in contact with Maharishi since he dropped the body? > > Edg Please take your medication b e f o r e you make that call. Mr. Jarvis might be a nice fell

[FairfieldLife] Help!!!!! Re: received reply from Jerry J. (re: Edg.)

2009-01-22 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > snip > It was only when I saw the youtube video of Jerry up there on a dais > and answering questions that I decided he was still, seemingly, > supporting the TMO in some fashion, and, now, after decades, I finally > had some clarity and h

[FairfieldLife] Yogic flying and the five knots

2009-01-22 Thread emptybill
>From time to time I pick up a book by the Dalai Lama and read through it even though I won't be buying it. I find valuable yogic tidbits this way although a brief statement may not be enough for a book purchase. In one of these, the Dalai Lama was asked about yogis who claimed they could fly - s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Help!!!!! Re: received reply from Jerry J. (re: Edg.)

2009-01-22 Thread I am the eternal
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Peter wrote: > > > --- On Thu, 1/22/09, I am the eternal wrote: > From: I am the eternal > > Jerry was the guest teacher. He spoke at great length many times and > answered many (not politically charged or accusatory) questions. Jerry was > very sweet and ver

[FairfieldLife] Help!!!!! Re: received reply from Jerry J. (re: Edg.)

2009-01-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: Thanks for the recommendation. I was planning to see it on the strength of Philip Seymour Hoffman being in it already. I also want to see "The Wrestler" with Micky Roarke. I am fascinated with movies that hang out in the gray zone, like o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers?

2009-01-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim wrote: > The facts remain the same. The crux of a sutra is > its meaning because the sutra is an idea. It is > that idea which is entertained in awareness through > the mode of a briefly focused attention. FWIW, the term I heard over and over durin

Re: [FairfieldLife] Judge Obama on Performance Alone

2009-01-22 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 22, 2009, at 9:14 AM, raunchydog wrote: >"If his presidency is to represent the full power of the idea that > black Americans are just like everyone else — fully human and fully > capable of intellect, courage and patriotism — No! Really?! > then Barack Obama has > to be subject to t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers?

2009-01-22 Thread Bhairitu
bob_brigante wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim wrote: > >> " - or that the siddhi program doesn't use Sanskrit?" >> >> > > * > > Siddhis instruction in India is in Sanskrit -- it's so close to Hindi > that understanding is not a problem, evidently. Hiindi is

[FairfieldLife] Help!!!!! Re: received reply from Jerry J. (re: Edg.)

2009-01-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > I remember that at the start of our advanced SCI course with > him he lead the us through an exercise of what we "KNOW" and > what we "don't know." We wrote them out. He was firm in the > conviction that what we "know" is that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers?

2009-01-22 Thread Vaj
On Jan 22, 2009, at 12:09 PM, billy jim wrote: I hope that Tat Wala's method helps people learn the sutras in Sanskrit. However doing so cannot make sanyama any better because the sutras are specifically used as ideas rather than sounds as such. Well, unfortunately, his line holder still l

Re: [FairfieldLife] Help!!!!! Re: received reply from Jerry J. (re: Edg.)

2009-01-22 Thread Peter
--- On Thu, 1/22/09, I am the eternal wrote: From: I am the eternal Jerry was the guest teacher.  He spoke at great length many times and answered many (not politically charged or accusatory) questions.  Jerry was very sweet and very, very sincere.  He explained to us the experiments he had

[FairfieldLife] Refining the list (Re: received reply from Jerry J. (re: Edg.))

2009-01-22 Thread Duveyoung
My list refined: Dear Jerry, Where did the mantras come from? Why the changes? Was there any international money smuggling going on that you knew about? I heard many rumors of suitcases filled with cash. How did you feel about the time the TMO took away ATR credits? How do you feel about Maha

Re: [FairfieldLife] Help!!!!! Re: received reply from Jerry J. (re: Edg.)

2009-01-22 Thread I am the eternal
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Duveyoung wrote: > I've accepted this offer, and when I get the number, I'll call. > > But, hey, eh? Jerry gets points for guts! Gotta give him the first > round on that alone. > I think that you will find this a most amazing experience. Some years ago I was i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers?

2009-01-22 Thread billy jim
Vaj - >Tat Whale Baba and his successor both insist they be done in >Sanskrit. They also insist the entire set be performed each day, and >the requisite other techniques the sutras require (which are oral or >upadesha instructions on inner yoga). Tat Wala Baba's status as a yo

[FairfieldLife] Which State is the Least Religious? Guess Who Lives There

2009-01-22 Thread arhatafreespeech
and, in the least religious community! Yesss! EMAIL THIS Email #yiv290303016 #yiv1736246156 {background-color:#FF;} #yiv290303016 #yiv1736246156 td {font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:11px;color:#00;} #yiv290303016 #yiv1736246156 .font-cn {font-family:Arial, Helvetica,

[FairfieldLife] Help!!!!! Re: received reply from Jerry J. (re: Edg.)

2009-01-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > Edg, I think you are the right man for the job with my second choice being Rick. If I talked to Jerry it would probably only be about music. Since I don't consider Maharishi an authority on human consciousness, I don't have any questions

[FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers in the San Francisco Bay Area?

2009-01-22 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > Thanks, do.rflex, for the below, ya saved me a lot of typing. > > I was worried that our dialog was going to be one of those never ending > nitpickers, but you've finally played the last card needed for me to see > your hand in this "deal

[FairfieldLife] Help!!!!! Re: received reply from Jerry J. (re: Edg.)

2009-01-22 Thread Duveyoung
Thanks, Curtis, You're aces, below. I love your moving story of Jerry. I believe you. I'll try to refine my question list according to the excellent advice some have given to this situation. If Jerry and I could sit in front of a fire with a couple beers in us, and have an open discussion in

[FairfieldLife] Help!!!!! Re: received reply from Jerry J. (re: Edg.)

2009-01-22 Thread Duveyoung
Thanks, Boo, Until I came to FFL, I loved Jerry. In fact, I still do. Jerry was, to me, (sigh) a guy in God-consciousness who was in tune with Maharishi, was funny to the marrow, had a foxy wife, and could play trumpet. If he wasn't a father figure to me, he was at least an older brother figure t

[FairfieldLife] Help!!!!! Re: received reply from Jerry J. (re: Edg.)

2009-01-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: Edg, I spent a lot of time with Jerry at MIU. I actually created a course for him for graduating senior, an advanced SCI course, and despite the administration and Jerry's fear of repercussions from Maharishi, he taught a one month course.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers in the San Francisco Bay Area?

2009-01-22 Thread Duveyoung
Thanks, do.rflex, for the below, ya saved me a lot of typing. I was worried that our dialog was going to be one of those never ending nitpickers, but you've finally played the last card needed for me to see your hand in this "deal." Thanks for showing me that, once again, you cannot handle playing

[FairfieldLife] Help!!!!! Re: received reply from Jerry J. (re: Edg.)

2009-01-22 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > You obviously don't know Jerry very well if you use the term "weasel" and his name in the same sentence. Many of the questions you ask can not be answered by Jerry because he simply doesn't know. And also, how do you know that many of these ac

[FairfieldLife] Judge Obama on Performance Alone

2009-01-22 Thread raunchydog
WSJ by Juan Williams "If his presidency is to represent the full power of the idea that black Americans are just like everyone else — fully human and fully capable of intellect, courage and patriotism — then Barack Obama has to be subject to the same rough and tumble of political criticism ex

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers in the San Francisco Bay Area?

2009-01-22 Thread Vaj
On Jan 22, 2009, at 9:45 AM, boo_lives wrote: We were taught to portray the mantra selection as objective but also as something that was especially suited to the individual in a kind of cosmic way. Consider these 2 pts: 1. Would TM have been a marketing success if people knew that MMY arbitra

[FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers in the San Francisco Bay Area?

2009-01-22 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > > > So, are you equally comfortable the to give an > > > "official-as-decreed-by-MMY" second lecture in > > > w

Re: [FairfieldLife] Help!!!!! Re: received reply from Jerry J. (re: Edg.)

2009-01-22 Thread Peter
You obviously don't know Jerry very well if you use the term "weasel" and his name in the same sentence. Many of the questions you ask can not be answered by Jerry because he simply doesn't know. And also, how do you know that many of these accusations are true? I'm not a TMO apologist, but you

[FairfieldLife] Samyama with Sadhguru and Isha Foundation

2009-01-22 Thread Vaj
It's interesting in looking at other popular gurus that are teaching Samyama. Here's the program of Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev. Prerequisites of Samyama 1. Inner Engineering Training: one is initiated into the Shambhavi Maha-mudra, an ancient yogic kriya to facilitate inner calm. 2. Initiati

[FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers in the San Francisco Bay Area?

2009-01-22 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" >wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" > wrote: > > Well, yes but it is not 'TM' of course because it is not taught > > through the TM organization. > > > The definition of TM is "Transcendental Meditation as tau

[FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers in the San Francisco Bay Area?

2009-01-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" > wrote: > > Well, yes but it is not 'TM' of course because it is not taught > > through the TM organization. > > > The definition of TM is "Transcendental Meditation as taug

[FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers in the San Francisco Bay Area?

2009-01-22 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" wrote: > Well, yes but it is not 'TM' of course because it is not taught > through the TM organization. > The definition of TM is "Transcendental Meditation as taught by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi". It must be true that, if what is being taugh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers?

2009-01-22 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim wrote: > > " - or that the siddhi program doesn't use Sanskrit?" > > I'm wondering where people got the idea that the various sutras should be used only in a Sanskrit form? Although trained as a TM teacher, I took my sutra training at a citizen sidd

[FairfieldLife] American Values - "I'm very worried about Eric Holder"

2009-01-22 Thread do.rflex
American Values - See Image: http://webpages.charter.net/micah/values.jpg I'm very worried about Eric Holder, Obama's pick for attorney general. Last week, during his confirmation hearing, he did something that sent shivers down my spine--he called torture, "torture." I'm not the only one w

[FairfieldLife] Re: Teaching Samyama

2009-01-22 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" >wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim >wrote: > > > > > by discussing the sanyama practice as a advance > > > development through using "meaning" as a more

Re: [FairfieldLife] Help!!!!! Re: received reply from Jerry J. (re: Edg.)

2009-01-22 Thread Vaj
On Jan 22, 2009, at 3:09 AM, Duveyoung wrote: My rough listing of issues I'll hit Jerry with are: International money smuggling. How the TMO justified taking away ATR credits? Why no hovering? Why Jerry kicked out? How TMO justified the spying upon course participants and the keeping of bl

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers?

2009-01-22 Thread Vaj
On Jan 22, 2009, at 2:09 AM, emptybill wrote: However I was still puzzled at how to conjoin dharana, dhyana and samadhi into sanyama. Most scholars of the time did not see sanyama as a tying-together (ie: synthesis or "placing together") but rather as the progressive deepening of dharana (as a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Independent TM Teachers?

2009-01-22 Thread Vaj
On Jan 21, 2009, at 10:51 PM, billy jim wrote: " - or that the siddhi program doesn't use Sanskrit?" I'm wondering where people got the idea that the various sutras should be used only in a Sanskrit form? Tat Whale Baba and his successor both insist they be done in Sanskrit. They also in

[FairfieldLife] The Body Language Of Doubt

2009-01-22 Thread TurquoiseB
This morning I am still pondering Meryl Streep's powerful performance in "Doubt." Painful to watch, much about it is liberating to ponder afterwards. Meryl Streep has always been a very physical actress. She is very, very, conscious of how "body language" conveys more than the delivery of lines o

[FairfieldLife] Help!!!!! Re: received reply from Jerry J. (re: Edg.)

2009-01-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > I've accepted this offer, and when I get the number, I'll call. > > But, hey, eh? Jerry gets points for guts! Gotta give him the > first round on that alone. > > Anyone want to suggest questions of ultra-specificity that I > might as

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